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to my understanding they (Deamon87 and the Epic CM7 squad) have been trying to get a build that meets the official CM7 standards in order to get the official support....the question I'm bringing to the table is why the Epic 4G (which is supposed to be a flagship sprint phone) didn't have official support from release like some other phones coming out have....with functional nightlies out within a week of release....if anybody has any information i'd really love to know!?!?
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Dameon is a very busy person. There are a lot of things still being done before he an work on cm7. Our epic's are such an underappreciated phone. Its just how things are... nothing more we can do.... except be thankful to all our devs we have =)
Who knows where our epis would be without dameon aand noobnl
Btw you spelled his name wrong =P
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Shoulon said:
Dameon is a very busy person. There are a lot of things still being done before he an work on cm7. Our epic's are such an underappreciated phone. Its just how things are... nothing more we can do.... except be thankful to all our devs we have =)
Who knows where our epis would be without dameon aand noobnl
Btw you spelled his name wrong =P
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Ohh ok I didn't know if it was a main project or anything...and yes the Epic 4G would be a very VERY boring device compared to all the other developers other phones have without them...but my question still remains why doesn't the Epic 4G get ROM releases from the official CM7 developer team like 20+ other devices get...even the other Galaxy S phones have official CM7 support...what makes us Epic owners different?
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None of those 20+ devs have epics? =\
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tony45x220 said:
Ohh ok I didn't know if it was a main project or anything...and yes the Epic 4G would be a very VERY boring device compared to all the other developers other phones have without them...but my question still remains why doesn't the Epic 4G get ROM releases from the official CM7 developer team like 20+ other devices get...even the other Galaxy S phones have official CM7 support...what makes us Epic owners different?
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According to the Cyanogenmod "Devices" page, Samsung Galaxy S (they just have one link for all the Galaxy S phones) is not supported. So...I don't think they do have official support:
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The Samsung Galaxy S is a series of devices that feature a 1GHz Hummingbird processor. It has/will be released in the USA from several carriers & under their own name, including the Samsung Vibrant for T-Mobile, the Samsung Captivate for AT&T, the Samsung Fascinate for Verizon & the Samsung Epic 4G for Sprint.
Not officially supported by CyanogenMod"
Straight from their web site.
In my understanding, it was because some of the base driver files required software from Samsung, that Samsung will not release, causing the need for the drivers to be totally rewritten and/or made from scratch
As such, I got the impression that once all the drivers have been written/created, official support would be forth coming, but until then, it was not available.
that is just my educated guess from all I have read on the subject though...
well now that the nexus s with 4g wimax is out perhaps the epic 4g will get some sort of rom based off that... I say give it a few days... As we know the nexus s has 2.3.4 now...
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According to the Cyanogenmod "Devices" page, Samsung Galaxy S (they just have one link for all the Galaxy S phones) is not supported. So...I don't think they do have official support:
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The Samsung Galaxy S is a series of devices that feature a 1GHz Hummingbird processor. It has/will be released in the USA from several carriers & under their own name, including the Samsung Vibrant for T-Mobile, the Samsung Captivate for AT&T, the Samsung Fascinate for Verizon & the Samsung Epic 4G for Sprint.
Not officially supported by CyanogenMod"
Straight from their web site.
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I just checked the captivate and vibrant forums under development and they both have fully functional versions of CM7 with various custom kernals...the only other Galaxy S device in the same developmental boat as us is the Fascinate....the Vibrant & Captivate forums also have instructional links to the CM7 website about flashing...so again I propose the question with a slight adjustment...why wouldn't the Epic 4G and Fascinate have official support...and does anybody know how we would request development from the official CM7 team
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It is very difficult and a lot of hardwork.
tony45x220 said:
I just checked the captivate and vibrant forums under development and they both have fully functional versions of CM7 with various custom kernals...the only other Galaxy S device in the same developmental boat as us is the Fascinate....the Vibrant & Captivate forums also have instructional links to the CM7 website about flashing...so again I propose the question with a slight adjustment...why wouldn't the Epic 4G and Fascinate have official support...and does anybody know how we would request development from the official CM7 team
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Somebody has to make the time to do the hardwork and have the know how to figure out how to convert the Samsung Epic Drivers. HTC usually reuses the same parts each year so development is simple. But on the other hand it makes their hardware suck and outdated. Samsung is innovative and they don't want their secrets out their for anybody to rip off and due to the fact they are innovative you have create new drive every time they come out with a new phone.
CM7
I am grateful for all that the CM7 have done. I a sea of glitchy ROMS, no of them fit for a daily, out of the gate, the Alpha ROM for the Epic has been, well, epic. A great ROM with wonderful potential.
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I am grateful for all that the CM7 have done. I a sea of glitchy ROMS, no of them fit for a daily, out of the gate, the Alpha ROM for the Epic has been, well, epic. A great ROM with wonderful potential.
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Hey hey now! If you appreciate the CM7 rom brought together for the Epic a year after it's release and right before its demise, that's great. But don't go badmouthing the fully-featured, very stable assortment of roms that have kept the Epic 4G alive for over a year now such as Viper, Bonsai, Midnight, and SyndicateFrozen to name a few! There are plenty of great roms that thousands of users use daily and have been for many months, you must be doing something wrong.
Also, check your grammar a bit:
"I[n] a sea of glitchy ROMS, no[ne] of them fit for a daily, out of the gate..."
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Hey hey now! If you appreciate the CM7 rom brought together for the Epic a year after it's release and right before its demise, that's great. But don't go badmouthing the fully-featured, very stable assortment of roms that have kept the Epic 4G alive for over a year now such as Viper, Bonsai, Midnight, and SyndicateFrozen to name a few! There are plenty of great roms that thousands of users use daily and have been for many months, you must be doing something wrong.
Also, check your grammar a bit:
"I[n] a sea of glitchy ROMS, no[ne] of them fit for a daily, out of the gate..."
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Sorry Random, you are right. I have only begun to root for a few months now and it is likely my ignorance that keeps me from having a smooth user experience. Admittedly I have only been flashing GB ROMs and have not tried the Froyo ROMs. I have only tried a few because the work of restoring apps and data gets tiring after a full week of work and a life to live. I apologize to all the devs that have worked so hard to make the 4G a better device and am definitely grateful for all those that have done so much and put in so much of their valuable time. Perhaps I will give one of the Froyo ROMs a spin.
As to the grammar, well, I have no excuse and feel deep shame. Please forgive me.
see, there's your problem. while the GB roms are fun, they aren't "daily driver" stable generally speaking. RandomKing's Phoenix 2.2, ACS's SFR 1.2, ERA's Simply AOSP 4.01, and many others are ones i've run for daily usage and they all have their strong points (mostly come down to preference) and are all very stable and fast.
yes, you are right, I got stuck on the GB train and couldn't get off.
Hey all, let me be very candid. I am coming from the OG EVO camp and we had an excellent set of developers (toast, TEAMWIN, Unrevoked,etc...)
My main concern with Samsung, is that most Samsung users say "You better like what you get when you buy it, because that's how it will stay". Now, I know that Samsung will likely update the E4GT some, but probably not as much as HTC does.
This being said, have those of you that are previous Android/Samsung owners (such as Epic 4G) experienced a good set of devs and development for Samsung products? I am seeing Team ACS pop up, but I don't know much about them. Do you feel like Samsung's lack of support down the road for E4GT will be made up for for the Samsung devs here at XDA? Thanks for any feedback, this pretty much seems like the best phone ever produced...
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Hey all, let me be very candid. I am coming from the OG EVO camp and we had an excellent set of developers (toast, TEAMWIN, Unrevoked,etc...)
My main concern with Samsung, is that most Samsung users say "You better like what you get when you buy it, because that's how it will stay". Now, I know that Samsung will likely update the E4GT some, but probably not as much as HTC does.
This being said, have those of you that are previous Android/Samsung owners (such as Epic 4G) experienced a good set of devs and development for Samsung products? I am seeing Team ACS pop up, but I don't know much about them. Do you feel like Samsung's lack of support down the road for E4GT will be made up for for the Samsung devs here at XDA? Thanks for any feedback, this pretty much seems like the best phone ever produced...
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Comparing the OG Epic 4G dev community to the Epic Touch 4G community can't work. This device is MUCH more popular. Either way ACS has the most popular ROMs on the OG Epic 4G also.
Dulanic said:
Comparing the OG Epic 4G dev community to the Epic Touch 4G community can't work. This device is MUCH more popular. Either way ACS has the most popular ROMs on the OG Epic 4G also.
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Not sure what you meant since the EVO was exceedingly popular. I am pleased to see teams like ACS stepping up so soon.
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Not sure what you meant since the EVO was exceedingly popular. I am pleased to see teams like ACS stepping up so soon.
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He was comparing the Epic community to this one. On the Epic, everything is really difficult to develop. The keyboard and some of the internals make it difficult. This phone will have tons of top notch development. I am optimistic that we will get timely updates as well. You have to remember the Epic was a niche phone. I think this phone will have development more like the Evo
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JohnCorleone said:
He was comparing the Epic community to this one. On the Epic, everything is really difficult to develop. The keyboard and some of the internals make it difficult. This phone will have tons of top notch development. I am optimistic that we will get timely updates as well. You have to remember the Epic was a niche phone. I think this phone will have development more like the Evo
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Agree
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JohnCorleone said:
He was comparing the Epic community to this one. On the Epic, everything is really difficult to develop. The keyboard and some of the internals make it difficult. This phone will have tons of top notch development. I am optimistic that we will get timely updates as well. You have to remember the Epic was a niche phone. I think this phone will have development more like the Evo
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Devs got 2.3 running well on the Samsung Moment, and even have CM7 working (mostly) on it. The dev community are the ones that fixed the infamous data lock problem, not Samsung.
The ET4G has FAR more interest by devs than the Moment ever did, so I would not be worried at all about development.
You'll just need to look around and take a little bit from each community... ACS, XDA and SDX are all great resources.
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He was comparing the Epic community to this one. On the Epic, everything is really difficult to develop. The keyboard and some of the internals make it difficult. This phone will have tons of top notch development. I am optimistic that we will get timely updates as well. You have to remember the Epic was a niche phone. I think this phone will have development more like the Evo
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OHH, that makes sense. In other words, you think development of this phone will more closely parallel the development of the International GS2 because it's more similar? That's very exciting news. So far I have heard @lithid may come over and even rumors of @calkulin, which are two great names from the EVO 4G camp
theres no support like htc dev support...#just sayin...
So I tried to do some searching around multiple sites, and couldn't seem to find any answers.
Is there a Dev on the CyanogenMod team that is supporting the CDMA Galaxy Nexus? I have seen multiple Kang CM9 roms, but nothing official from any devs. I am not asking for ETA's or release dates, I just would like to follow the person on Twitter or Google+ to see any updates or progress they talk about. Also, is there a site for the change logs for CM9 yet or is that still pending the server fix for nightly builds. Any links or names would be helpful.
Thanks for any info in advance.
No one? I found this on github
https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_device_samsung_toro
I know there are a couple CM devs who have the Galaxy Nexus. While I haven't seen any mention of working on CM9 for it, I would be amazed if there is not a developer working on it right now. I'm sure there will be a stable build releasing soon.
I'm personally holding off on even rooting my phone until an official CM9 ROM is released. Stock ICS is more than adequate for now.
sn0warmy said:
I know there are a couple CM devs who have the Galaxy Nexus. While I haven't seen any mention of working on CM9 for it, I would be amazed if there is not a developer working on it right now. I'm sure there will be a stable build releasing soon.
I'm personally holding off on even rooting my phone until an official CM9 ROM is released. Stock ICS is more than adequate for now.
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Isn't the nexus line the most supported phone by devs?
Which Android phone out there gets the most development support from the community? I'm just curious.
The Nexus One was the most well supported phone I ever owned. The Nexus S took a while to get going (come to think of it, the n1 did too, wish I would've stuck it out with my S), but eventually had a great dev community. The OG droid had a great dev community as well, as did the HTC desire (due to being so similar to the n1). Recently, the international galaxy s2 has been getting a lot of dev love because its such a beast internally. The galaxy nexus is showing incredible progress for as long as its been out for. I find it takes devs about 4-8 months after a phone's release to really start showing some impressive stuff. CM9 in February or March will be a milestone for this phone and will definitely deliver a hefty helping of tweaks / mods to ICS. I've seen a lot of great devs working with the Nexus so I'm not too worried. I, personally, don't even have mine rooted yet, because I'm waiting for the dust to settle. I'm not the crack flasher I once was and ICS is so damned good on its own that I'll probably wait for a nice, feature-complete version of bugless beast or MCR to come out (probably only 2-3 weeks). CM9 will most likely be my rom of choice once that's out.
There are already CM9 kangs in the CDMA forums. CM9 isn't out yet but once nightlies roll out we'll be good.
-Galaxy Nexus
-Asus Transformer
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The Nexus One was the most well supported phone I ever owned. The Nexus S took a while to get going (come to think of it, the n1 did too, wish I would've stuck it out with my S), but eventually had a great dev community. The OG droid had a great dev community as well, as did the HTC desire (due to being so similar to the n1). Recently, the international galaxy s2 has been getting a lot of dev love because its such a beast internally. The galaxy nexus is showing incredible progress for as long as its been out for. I find it takes devs about 4-8 months after a phone's release to really start showing some impressive stuff. CM9 in February or March will be a milestone for this phone and will definitely deliver a hefty helping of tweaks / mods to ICS. I've seen a lot of great devs working with the Nexus so I'm not too worried. I, personally, don't even have mine rooted yet, because I'm waiting for the dust to settle. I'm not the crack flasher I once was and ICS is so damned good on its own that I'll probably wait for a nice, feature-complete version of bugless beast or MCR to come out (probably only 2-3 weeks). CM9 will most likely be my rom of choice once that's out.
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The top 2 I can think of is the hd2 and the evo 4g. I have the evo and there are tons of roms for it.
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Several of the early Droid phones were very popular with Dev's because they were so easy to unlock. As for newer phones, it seems to be the Nexus devices and any that are easy to unlock.
Can't wait for nightly builds of CM9 to start.
The phone has been out for like 2 weeks people. Give it another month or two and this place will be booming with development. Relax and enjoy the phone as is for a minute. The development will grow. I promise.
I normally have my Android phones rooted within 1 hour of getting them out of the packaging. However, I haven't even found a single reason to root this thing.
I'm also holding off on modding it until CM9 comes. I need to stay on stock for a while so I can make comparisons.
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I know there are a couple CM devs who have the Galaxy Nexus. While I haven't seen any mention of working on CM9 for it, I would be amazed if there is not a developer working on it right now. I'm sure there will be a stable build releasing soon.
I'm personally holding off on even rooting my phone until an official CM9 ROM is released. Stock ICS is more than adequate for now.
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Same here. I haven't done a thing with it...I'm completely satisfied with the OS and everything. If only the signal issues could be fixed I'd be a happy clam.
Kind of stinks that I get 0 signal in at least 1/2 of all places I've gone in the past week and a half. I don't mean 0 bars, I mean I can't make/receive voice calls and I get no data connection when trying to use any app that accesses the internet. Text messages send, but it usually takes them 20+ seconds to do so. This kind of connection quality is horrifyingly bad.
I know that this has nothing to do with the Epic but I'm coming here to seek guidance. I moved from an Epic 4G to a SideKick 4g and support is dead so is the forums. I'm wondering how difficult would it be to port CyanogenMod 6 or an older MIUI version to the device?
Which phone would be best to use to port CyanogenMod 6? The Sidekick 4g has a Hummingbird processor but like the Epic 4G it has a keyboard and a lot more differences than the other Galaxy S series phones.
Maybe I should of PM'ed someone instead of posting here and if you fill this shouldn't be here please delete it.
You just kind of posted at a bad time.
Another porting thread was JUST made.
newbieandroid said:
I know that this has nothing to do with the Epic but I'm coming here to seek guidance. I moved from an Epic 4G to a SideKick 4g and support is dead so is the forums. I'm wondering how difficult would it be to port CyanogenMod 6 or an older MIUI version to the device?
Which phone would be best to use to port CyanogenMod 6? The Sidekick 4g has a Hummingbird processor but like the Epic 4G it has a keyboard and a lot more differences than the other Galaxy S series phones.
Maybe I should of PM'ed someone instead of posting here and if you fill this shouldn't be here please delete it.
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I don't think porting cm is possible. You have to build from source. After you have that, miui should be easy. Let me know and I can try to help you
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Is it just me or are we stuck for a while now switching couple of ROMs that bring out new "features" like updated Market, Amazon Store or launchers?
Wait for more people to get ICS, hey it's all I got.
Also, what the hell more do you want from your phone? Lol.
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Is it just me or are we stuck for a while now switching couple of ROMs that bring out new "features" like updated Market, Amazon Store or launchers?
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Lol sounds like you need to follow a real dev if the roms you are using only do that between versions.
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Lol sounds like you need to follow a real dev if the roms you are using only do that between versions.
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what's out there besides AOKP and CM9 that does real development?
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what's out there besides AOKP and CM9 that does real development?
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Nothing? Besides kernels. A lot of the other roms cherry pick from those.
If all you see as real development is aokp and cm, you arent paying attention. BAMF Paradigm is 100% aokp free and 99% cm free.
The only things we borrowed was the T9 dialer and some of the cm overclocking settings.
If you have used it, you know it is a clone of neither. Aokp has more cm code in their rom than we do.
I am sure there are other original roms out there as well.
You're not going to see much traction on features until Samsung, LG, Motorola, and HTC start releasing ICS phones, and once the developers actually have time to learn about the new features. Historically, a good portion of the options available in ROMs on Nexus phones are cherry-picked and re-engineered from features we see implemented by the manufacturers of the other phones.
My Nexus One that I bought two years ago was plain jane for about 6 months because stock Android was the bleeding edge. Then once the Desire hit the shelves in the U.K. people were scrambling to slap Sense onto the Nexus. Then the Galaxy S came out and people were scrambling to slap TouchWiz onto the Nexus.
Be patient, or learn how to develop for Android so you can make your own contributions to CM and AOKP.
Yea I totally agree. I switched from galaxy s2 i9100 and I kind if miss it. Galaxy s2 had so many roms and so much development was going on. I tried 30+ roms on that beast. The community was well enthusiastic. I really miss hyperdroid and check roms. ... I guess we need to wait and let others joint ICS gang and hope for best.
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