Moisture Problem - Defy General

I tried to dip my defy on the water for less than a minute and make sure that all ports are covered, i also didn't see any bubbles coming out on one of those ports.
Then after that i didn't see any problem,,,
Until after 3 hours i noticed moisture builds up on the inside edges and corners of the LCD screen, though the phone still works properly, earpiece, wifi all ok
Have anyone of you experienced this problem???
and by the way,,, I have a jelly case protector and i also noticed moisture in the jelly case protector.... (I have put on the jelly case protector after wiping all the water off")
Is this also the cause why my defy builds up moisture on the screen because it can't "BREATH PROPERLY" because of the jelly case protector

u might want to warm the defy up a little bit( not too much ) to get rid of the moisture...keep it under normal sunlight for 2 to 5 mins

Or you can also try putting it in a bag if rice for a few hours. The rice should absorb the moisture.
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Don't heat it up! The moisture might reach the circuit board and ruin your phone. I've had a similar problem earlier , in order to rid the device of any future anomalies and the vapours ofcourse I'd advice you take it apart and put it in a dry rice bowl for the night.
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Defy is actually a water resistant but not water proof device. It will resist if you splash it with some water or use it in the rain. But it's not really going to stand under a totally submerd in a water. You get lucky if it work after dipping in to a water or you may get really bad luck if you get some water in it right after and ruin your day. I see some Defy can swim but not all of them survive the torture too. Still if it's only some minor moisture inside the Defy. Buried it in a rice would do just fine to dried up those moisture.

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Dropped my Nexus into the toilet bowl

What are the chances that it's going to make it?
It was in there for a good second before I managed to get it out. I quickly reached down pulled it out and did a battery pull as fast as I could. Now my question is, how long do I leave it to dry for before attempting to turn it back on?
It's presently on my patio air drying where I plan on leaving it for a full day. Then I plan on submerging it into a bowl of rice for yet another day.
Is this the right procedure and anyone have any other recommendations?
Please describe the toilet bowl, what was in it? how much poop/urine?
vapotrini said:
What are the chances that it's going to make it?
It was in there for a good second before I managed to get it out. I quickly reached down pulled it out and did a battery pull as fast as I could. Now my question is, how long do I leave it to dry for before attempting to turn it back on?
It's presently on my patio air drying where I plan on leaving it for a full day. Then I plan on submerging it into a bowl of rice for yet another day.
Is this the right procedure and anyone have any other recommendations?
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You did all you could to save it. You actually have minimal chances of permanent damage if you really took it out in one sec. and pulled the battery.
I've saved this way a SGS1 but is stayed under water a good 5 to 10 minutes (time it took to my friend to stop crying and come find me and complain about dropping the phone in the toilet ).
You can get a water proof spay applied on the phone
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It should be fine if you got it out quick as your phone didn't get immersed in water for that long; just leave it out to air dry, wipe away any water and I'd probably recommend waiting over 24 hours depending on where you live... If you have a sim card, I'd suggest you to remove it as well
If that bowl contained only water it should be ok. To be sure 100% you can put it in rice for some time, like overnight.
There should be an app for a warning screen when you approach proximity of toilet. Bombs away.
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I would have pulled the battery and sim immediately, then shook off any excess liquid... then sealed it in about 2 cups of white rice in a sealed baggie. And for no less than 48 hours, much more like 72...
Then there's the other crowd who not only would have done the above, but after shaking off the excess liquid, would have submerged it into 91% rubbing alcohol which would have sanitized it by removing impurities in the water. Then putting it into the rice baggie.
I'm not too keen on further submerging it into anything on purpose, but it makes sense as alcohol has drying properties.
As always, your mileage may vary.
Good Luck!
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You can get a water proof spay applied on the phone
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How does a water proof spray keep water out of openings? A force field?
does it still smell like poop/urine?
adrynalyne said:
A force field?
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Duh...You have no imagination.
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Thanks for all the replies guys.
When I get home later I'm gonna put it into a bag of rice for a further 48 hours, then hope for the best. Sadly, this is my 2nd Galaxy so if it doesn't work I'm gonna just hold off for the next best thing. The first one fell into the ocean. I had too much to drink so I more or less deserved that happening. This time though, I was trying to be so careful and made sure to keep the phone FAR away from the toilet (literally 3 feet or more) while I was reading an email. I turned slightly and my elbow accidentally hit my shower's door causing the phone to pop out of my hand. Out of all the places it could have landed, of course, it landed straight in the toilet bowl.
Buy a motorola defy
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Man that is awful, sorry about your luck...
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****ty situation bro. Literally.
I dropped my OG Incredible into a ****ty toilet. Grabbed it just as fast as it fell in. Took the battery out immediately, then took the whole phone apart and cleaned it with alcohol. Worked fine.
Personally, I wouldn't put it in rice, I would look around for some silica gel. The rice can (and will) get somewhat permanent dust under the screen, while the gel does not release dust/powder/etc.
miketoasty said:
Personally, I wouldn't put it in rice, I would look around for some silica gel. The rice can (and will) get somewhat permanent dust under the screen, while the gel does not release dust/powder/etc.
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agreed... too many particles floating around in a bag of rice but if it's your only option, then rice is better than nothing
Rinse it off in alcohol, that will fix it.
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How does a water proof spray keep water out of openings? A force field?
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No, it creates a water proof coating on all components, preventing water from every reaching them/get them wet.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superhydrophobe
http://www.theverge.com/2012/1/16/2711980/waterproof-samsung-phone-superhydrophobic-coating
i concur with the alcohol suggestion. your issue is going to be corrosion. if you are able to obtain some anhydrous isoproply alcohol i would submerge it in there then let it dry fully at least a few days just to be sure.

[Q] How to dry out display without ruining it?

my friends phone got waterlogged, unfortunately the water got into display itself... everything was perfectly dried and works fine with exception of display... it got occassionally lines on it (it was unreadable for about an hour after reassembly) and while underlighted it is still full of water (the display consists of many layers) anyone has some cheap way of getting the water safely out? (it might not be even clean water, it was a tap water which may contain various minerals)
I have always used a meat dehydrator.you know ,the things that make beef jerky. 48 hours in that will dry it out as safe as you can get. (mine dose not heat up much past 40c.) You don't want it too warm or too much forced air flow.
okay, will silica gel + heat from radiator (not much, just to force the water into steam form) do the job too? also, do you think that cleaning the display with distilled water is good idea? afaik distilled water is non-conductive when properly distilled and it might clean the minerals (if any present) from tap water...
okay, after one day letting it dry on its own while used (friend doesnt have any working spare phone and so i - so i put it together, hoping it will not corrode because of increased humidity) in phone the display is about 50% dried out and the dried space is like new one, no dirty stains at all, so i'm not gonna open it again those flex cables doesn't look robust enough for daily manipulation anyway thanks for your help
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If it ever happens again, or if someone else stumbles on this, just throw the phone in a tub if uncooked rice. Open or closed, it'll do the same thing.
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One of the best way to dry phone after flooding is to put it into the glass of rectified spirit. Alcohol mixes with water and leaches minerals (clears electronic parts). Alcohol evaporates at a lower temperature, making drying easier.
sky_86 said:
One of the best way to dry phone after flooding is to put it into the glass of rectified spirit. Alcohol mixes with water and leaches minerals (clears electronic parts). Alcohol evaporates at a lower temperature, making drying easier.
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True. And once it's dry, then you'd better hope it didn't short-circuit because of the water... Then you would just be left with a waterlog... I heard Apple has a great deal of experience with water damage xD

Phone got wet in a ridiculous way. Help!

I was wearing a zip up hoodie and washed my face in the sink by splashing water on my face, which I do several times a day. My phone was in my hoodie pocket. I walked from the bathroom to my bedroom where my towel was and proceeded to dry my face. All of a sudden I hear water dripping on my bedroom floor. Eventually I figure out the water is coming from my pocket. How the hell did that much water get in my pocket from washing my face? So I reach in my pocket and its pretty dry but my phone is in there! Pull my phone out and its drenched! Water s dripping a lot out of my phone and not my pocket.
So now my phone flickers when I turn it on and eventually the screen goes black. I'm pissed that it happened this way instead of me being drunk and dropping it in the toilet. Can someone please tell me how to fix it? PS I have no rice
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sd0070 said:
I was wearing a zip up hoodie and washed my face in the sink by splashing water on my face, which I do several times a day. My phone was in my hoodie pocket. I walked from the bathroom to my bedroom where my towel was and proceeded to dry my face. All of a sudden I hear water dripping on my bedroom floor. Eventually I figure out the water is coming from my pocket. How the hell did that much water get in my pocket from washing my face? So I reach in my pocket and its pretty dry but my phone is in there! Pull my phone out and its drenched! Water s dripping a lot out of my phone and not my pocket.
So now my phone flickers when I turn it on and eventually the screen goes black. I'm pissed that it happened this way instead of me being drunk and dropping it in the toilet. Can someone please tell me how to fix it? PS I have no rice
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Put out battery and simcard, and let it dry. I have heard that you should put it in a bag of rice, the rice should dry out de water
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You shouldn't have tried to turn it on in the first case but no problem . Pull out ur battery keep the phone for about two to three days in raw rice bowl.. like the phone should be totally covered. Rice is a water absorbing agent and will help dry the display and the internals of ur phone. All d best
Hope ur nexus comes kicking back to life. :thumbup:
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If you don't have any rice then go buy some. It's probably going to be worth the investment.
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You can try the rice method, but i'm afraid the damage has already been done. Electronics are surprisingly waterproof; it is the electric current sent through the components that short out because of the water. The best thing to do when a device gets wet is to shut it down immediately and remove the battery.
best thing is to submerse it in isopropyl alcohol and swish it around to force the water out. it dries a lot quicker and won't damage the components.
source : I'm an electrical engineer
the isopropyl method is way more surefire than the rice method alone
+1 on the Isopropyl Alcohol idea, try to get a 91% one if you can, 70% Isopropyl Alcohol usually leave water marks.
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best thing is to submerse it in isopropyl alcohol and swish it around to force the water out. it dries a lot quicker and won't damage the components.
source : I'm an electrical engineer
the isopropyl method is way more surefire than the rice method alone
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This is the method I used the one time it's happened to me.
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+1 on the Isopropyl Alcohol idea, try to get a 91% one if you can, 70% Isopropyl Alcohol usually leave water marks.
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99% is the best way to go, should be easily available in pharmacies, hardware stores, grocery stores, hell, even farm and feed stores have it for horses, in larger quantities for cheaper.
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99% is the best way to go, should be easily available in pharmacies, hardware stores, grocery stores, hell, even farm and feed stores have it for horses, in larger quantities for cheaper.
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But sadly I can only find 70% around the pharmacies..
And yes, get the Isopropyl Alcohol with the least water content.
Beamed from my Maguro.
Take the Soyez rocket into oribit, don a space suit and take your Gnex with you for a space walk. The vacuum will instantly boil off the fluid to gas which will disperse in the vacuum, and your phone will be dry internally.
Or if you would like to try a less dramatic measure than the above, or even the other posters's suggestions then put the phone (without the battery) in a plastic bin bag with a damp catcher, which can be bought for about $1 or 1 pound from shops such as Poundland. Seal the bag with a plastic clip or an old fashioned knot to make it water tight. Leave this lot be for 48 hours, and when you take the phone out, it will be bone dry inside and out.
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Rice
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DZ surviving a fall in water?

Has anyone ever Resurrected a DZ from water damage? It was only a quick dip..
I placed it on a sloped plastic surface and that nice brushed aluminium backplate made it slip right off :'(
Obviously I have it battery out and with a dehumidifier but anything else to try?
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Has anyone ever Resurrected a DZ from water damage? It was only a quick dip..
I placed it on a sloped plastic surface and that nice brushed aluminium backplate made it slip right off :'(
Obviously I have it battery out and with a dehumidifier but anything else to try?
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I put a HTC Wildfire through the washing machine it worked fine afterwards
Take battery, sim etc apart and place in a box of rice for at least a couple of days (the longer the better I guess).
Don't attempt to switch it on until you've done this!
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drpepe said:
I put a HTC Wildfire through the washing machine it worked fine afterwards
Take battery, sim etc apart and place in a box of rice for at least a couple of days (the longer the better I guess).
Don't attempt to switch it on until you've done this!
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Got out my rice fingers crossed :L
I did not immerse, but spilled water on mine, it stopped working and would not boot, led error flashes indicated overheating and low voltage (alternating green orange flashes and orange flashes).
I tried rice but it did not work. I have now resurrected two phones by disassembling and washing the circuit boards with distilled deionised water and 99% anhydrous isopropyl alcohol (IPA).
Do not get water or IPA on the screen assembly as it will leave watermarks on the screen, dark areas. You may wnat to avoid getting IPA on the black rubberised paint that is under the top half of the keyboard section, it will make it peel off. However the phone will still work and cosmetic damage is hidden after reassembly.
I took the main motherboard and placed it in the distilled water in a tupperware container and agitiated it to rinse out any debris. I used a brush around the usb connector and battery contacts to make sure it was clean there. Then i rinsed with anhydrous IPA. I allowed the phone to dry for approx 24hr and reassembled.
My G2 decided it wanted to jump out of my hand into Multnomah Falls and was fully submerged for about 5 seconds. I fished it out and immediately took it apart. Got home and placed all the pieces in rice. Low and behold, I'm posting this message from that very same phone.
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Kind of late here but here is what I did when my G2 decided to go for a swim on the sink when I as brushing my teeth.
I took off battery and put it in a bowl of rice for a few days
This worked and the phone worked for a couple of days. And then started shutting down and wouldnt boot
Got 99% alcohol and cleaned the motherboard of the phone with it. Put it back together and phone worked perfectly.
Here is the alcohol i used from amazon http://www.amazon.com/Swan-Alcohol-...1358011866&sr=8-1&keywords=99+percent+alcohol
In most of cases, electronic devices should work fine after dropping them in water.
- You have to avoid electric short cut by trying to power up your wet device.
- You have to avoid corrosion on electronic metal parts. Use alcool to clean it, or find asap a rice bowl.
Grocery white rice should remove most of the humidity in two weeks.

H815 - Dropped in water. Stuck in "Firmware Update".

My slippery fingers dropped the G4 in water (not salt water). Removed the battery as quick as I could and put the phone, battery into a rice bowl. Booted it up after about an hour and it's just showing me "Firmware Update" without a USB cable plugged in.
I haven't tried flashing it to anything just yet. Is it possible that the water might got somewhere into the USB port and making the phone think it's in download mode? I'm gonna dump it in the rice bowl for a few more hours.
Edit - The liquid contact indicator above the SD card is still white. The LCI on the battery is red thou.
Try replacing battery first
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Try replacing battery first
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Thanks for the advice. Now it's booting fine with both batteries (I had one extra that wasn't water damaged).
I think there's still some water left in the headphone jack since the G4 thinks it's plugged into an audio out device. I've tried cleaning the hole with some very soft cloth but no change. If I blow hard enough into the jack, it'll momentarily come out of that mode just to go back soon as I stop. I guess I just have to wait a few more hours.
Edit - When blowing air into the headphone jack, LG Voice Mate app comes up. Rather weird.
Sadly yes, it´s a known issue, first when they see the headphones they will think the phone was skinny diving
I'd like to take this opportunity to advise people not to put their phones in a bag of rice. You don't put your laundry in a bag of rice to dry it, you hang it up in a warm area with moving air. The rice and bag will keep the water in your phone longer than drying it in the sun. It works eventually, but it isn't as good as putting it on your heating vent or just in a sunny spot. By the way, I don't recommend a clothes dryer.
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Sadly yes, it´s a known issue, first when they see the headphones they will think the phone was skinny diving
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After a few more hours of rest near in a dry, warm place, the jack is back in service. Hopefully no more crazy jack again.
The battery with red LCI seems to be working fine still. Should I retire it completely?
Robert18 said:
I'd like to take this opportunity to advise people not to put their phones in a bag of rice. You don't put your laundry in a bag of rice to dry it, you hang it up in a warm area with moving air. The rice and bag will keep the water in your phone longer than drying it in the sun. It works eventually, but there's it isn't as good as putting it on your heating vent or just in a sunny spot. By the way, I don't recommend a clothes dryer.
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Rice always seems to have worked for me. Anyway, I chose a sunny spot later on.
I have heard the opposite about rice - it is better than putting your phone on heater or using hair dryer. The best solution would be to put it in an airtight bag with silica gel (those small, white paper packages that come with your newly purchased bags and shoes).
You and everyone else have heard the same thing, but testing has shown that putting your wet phone in a bag of rice will keep it wet longer than just putting it on a counter (that's not in a locker room). And it makes sense, compare putting a wet sock in a sealed bag of rice (or silica) and another hanging somewhere, like over a heating vent. In one you've sealed the moisture in a bag, in the other you're letting heat evaporate the water and providing air to take the moisture away. It's a myth that a bag of rice is helping you.
Throwing my rice experience in here. It is TRUE. Rice does work and absorbs the moisture. My son took a swim (SWIM!) with his Atrix 4G in the DEEP END of the pool. He immediately disassembled it as I've told him to. We got rice and a bag, completely submerged in the rice and put ALL pieces (except the back) in it for 5 days in the window of our house that got sunlight. After 5 days, the Atrix booted up as good as before the swim. The trick is to disassemble right away AND DO NOT TRY TO POWER IT ON FOR MINIMUM 3 DAYS! We also shook it out until no more water was coming out of any holes. So to those skeptics, you're wrong, it does work if you have patience.
I don't doubt that a phone which has been wet, then put into a bag of rice, will eventually dry. My point is that it would have dried much faster if you had done something else. Just because your phone worked after putting it in rice, doesn't mean the rice helped you, it just means it didn't hurt enough to keep the phone from recovering. Again, try wetting 2 socks, then put one in a bag of rice, and one on a clothes line. The one on the clothes line will dry faster, but maybe the one in the rice will eventually dry also. Most people don't want to wait 5 days for their laundry, so we've found better ways of getting water out of objects.
Water will hurt your electronics in a few ways, one is that it is the universal solvent and may dissolve something (like a glue or flux) if left there too long. But most likely the biggest issue is that it conducts electricity if it has enough minerals in it. If the phone is on when it gets wet and the water has high mineral content, it's possible that some parts will just short circuit and burn out some. If most of the electronics are off, then the biggest problem is the left over residual minerals that will stick to phone parts and conduct electricity where it shouldn't, but that depends on how hard your water is. In some cases, you'd be better off washing the phone in deionized water which doesn't conduct electricity and is used in cleaning electronics.

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