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just wanna ask if anyone managed to capture the firmware update for mango for the LG optimus 7 ? i'm running RTM 7720 but cant seem to get the firmware update .
xtrememanix said:
just wanna ask if anyone managed to capture the firmware update for mango for the LG optimus 7 ? i'm running RTM 7720 but cant seem to get the firmware update .
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I think you should roll back in order to get the firmware update.
im getting "LG update for Windows Phone" at the moment. Are you referring to this?
pujiesss said:
im getting "LG update for Windows Phone" at the moment. Are you referring to this?
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yes thats the one
henry084 said:
I think you should roll back in order to get the firmware update.
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So you're saying that even if i successfully upgraded to Mango (coming from the beta 2) i have to roll back to NoDo in order to upgrade the firmware, right?
Is it a guess or something certain?
p.s.: could you tell me how to roll back (i've made the backup when i installed the beta)?
enterthemax said:
So you're saying that even if i successfully upgraded to Mango (coming from the beta 2) i have to roll back to NoDo in order to upgrade the firmware, right?
Is it a guess or something certain?
p.s.: could you tell me how to roll back (i've made the backup when i installed the beta)?
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nah . it should come with the update i believe .
xtrememanix said:
nah . it should come with the update i believe .
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Yes, it SHOULD! I upgraded the software to mango, but the firmware remained the same...
enterthemax said:
Yes, it SHOULD! I upgraded the software to mango, but the firmware remained the same...
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from what i'm seeing , by right you should get a LG update last . after you get all the updates to RTM . hmm .
if you didnt then i'm not sure why and hopefully someone in xda can capture the LG update and make it into a cab or something that we can easily install on our phones .
xtrememanix said:
from what i'm seeing , by right you should get a LG update last . after you get all the updates to RTM . hmm .
if you didnt then i'm not sure why and hopefully someone in xda can capture the LG update and make it into a cab or something that we can easily install on our phones .
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i first received the final 7720 firmware build, then beta cleanup bundle, and finally the LG update which i described in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1279975
Can anyone post up their updated phones firmware version numbers and also what your fps are on the fish tank test.
I got an LG update message from Zune and updated my phone from Mango RTM but the version numbers stayed the same?
Sent from my Mango
I would love for someone to do this, as I'm unable to install the "LG Update" (error 801812dc) with no known solutions.
i saw on some forum and users are reporting that their firmware version got updated to 1.0.6.10
about page
os ver 7.10.7720.68
firmware rev # 1.0.6.10
hw rev # 1.0.0.0
radio software 1.0.6.10
radio hardware 0.3.5.0
bootloader 1.5.1.0
chip soc 0.30.2.0
after mango update. updated from rtm without having to downgrade. after update compass working, internet connection sharing enabled by default
phone is open-sea
bluetooth is still ****.
Wait you're saying that you can use InternetSharing on you LG Optimus7??? Screenshot or anything that proofs it?!
Kind regards
I got the LG update but my version numbers all stayed the same after the update?
os ver 7.10.7720.68
firmware rev # 1.1.2.10
radio software 1.1.2.10
rdio hardware 0.3.5.0
bootloader 1.5.1.0
chip soc 0.30.2.0
mickfarr said:
I got the LG update but my version numbers all stayed the same after the update?
os ver 7.10.7720.68
firmware rev # 1.1.2.10
radio software 1.1.2.10
rdio hardware 0.3.5.0
bootloader 1.5.1.0
chip soc 0.30.2.0
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before update i'm pretty sure that your fw number was 1.0.2.10
borich said:
before update i'm pretty sure that your fw number was 1.0.2.10
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I took a photo of the phone's firmware before the LG update and I'm pretty sure it was 1.1.2.10
I can't check at the moment as I'm in the office but I'll have another look when I get home later.
EDIT: I'm back home and have checked the photo again and your right the firmware was 1.0.2.10 so it did get updated, guess I shouldn't have had those beers last night :-D
oh man . mine is still running 1.0.1.10 . which is like ancient . Z
bevoc said:
os ver 7.10.7720.68
bluetooth is still ****.
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YES. I love the Optimus 7 exceept bluetooth. My blackberry has 10000x better bluetooth.
Ugh, I'd really love for someone to either grab the files and put them in a cab with instructions, or tell me how to do it. Otherwise, I'm going to have to send my phone back to the manufacturers to be fixed.
Hi guys,
I started this thread because sometimes it is very confusing digging to threads when topics are device-mixed.
This post should be used only for the issue How to enable "Internet Sharing" = Tehtering on a LG e900 Optimus 7 running with the official WP 7.5 MANGO software (Build 7.1.7720.68)
May be some very helpful hints from same topics for other devices may be "quoted" to give ideas how to iterate towards a working solution.
Best regards Uwe
Here are the facts of my LG Phone:
WP7-Device, Developer unlocked, Dreamspark
LG E900 Optimus
Host-PC Lenovo N200 769-BFG Win 7-32 Prof. SP1
DOP:17.01.2011
Provider: VDF-GER
OS:7.10.7720.68 Windows Phone 7.5
FW: 1.0.10.10
HW:1.0.0.0
WiFISW: 1.0.10.10
WiFiHW:0.3.5.0
BL: 1.5.1.0
Chip-SOC: 0.30.2.0
For me, it's till working the same as ever, going into MFG and changing USB mode, just tried it again a few seconds ago, i didn't have to change anything on the host pc (Windows 7 x64).
Non unlocked phone:
LG LG-E900
Provider: OPN (no idea what it means since it's SFR)
OS:7.10.7720.68
FW: 1.1.2.10
HW:1.0.0.0
WiFISW: 1.1.2.10
WiFiHW:0.3.5.0
BL: 1.5.1.0
Chip-SOC: 0.30.2.0
How did you update to mango ? your wifiSW is different, maybe you didn't get the LG update (my mango update was called "LG Update for Windows phone") ?
Hi,
thanks! The info about FW and WiFi Version may be helpful and worth to follow up!
I first used the Developer RTM Preview Version of MANGO and on Sept. 29th I received announcement of an update available. After that Ih updated via Zune in the normal, official way without problems.
Where did you find the LG-Firmware-Update?
May be its woth to tellt the firmware filename (Version) and the corresponding FW Revisions of each Sub-item e.g. WiFi, cellular, ...
I tried yesterday using update-tool from LG (phone had to be set in emergenca mode) but nothing changed. Also enabling the QC-Composite Mode (the old but working solution of Pre-Mango-NoDo state) is nomore usable.
Maybe there is a link for the firmware. I´m on Vodafone Germany.
Best gegards Uwe
There was no separate LG Update, i did the force update trick by disconnecting after a few seconds.
Then Zune made two updates in a row, first one very quick and second one, very long, Mango itself, which was called "LG Update for Windows Phone".
I'm thinking that bacause on my HTC, sharing connection wouldn't work until after the drivers were updatee (but in that case, it was an additionnal update AFTER mango).
Everything works fine! Problems solved
Hi guys, Vodafone´s new firmware for LG E900 Optimus 7 cures everything!
All you need ist an new FW working perfect with MANGO 7.1.7720.068
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=935578
For Germany e.g. use Vodafone Version
LG-E900AT-00-V10p-262-02-SEP-02-2011+0_DZ which supports Internetsharing as well as USB tehering when switching to QC COMPOSITE mode in MFG App and known modem settings and datamode disabled.
OPEN Market FW
DZ_LG-E900AT-00-V11b-262-XXX-AUG-17-2011+0
OR
DZ_LG-E900AT-00-V11c-NEU-XXX-SEP-05-2011+0
do not support Internetsharing, but USB tethering
Have fun
U.
flobo09 said:
There was no separate LG Update, i did the force update trick by disconnecting after a few seconds.
Then Zune made two updates in a row, first one very quick and second one, very long, Mango itself, which was called "LG Update for Windows Phone".
I'm thinking that bacause on my HTC, sharing connection wouldn't work until after the drivers were updatee (but in that case, it was an additionnal update AFTER mango).
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Wait what? You got an additional Update to the HTC Update for Windows Phone (Mango)
@Ludacris: People who upgraded to Mango retail from a pre-release version got the HTC update (the one that re-enables DFRouter/USBModeSwitch tethering, but breaks TouchXplorer and blocks unlocking using Connection Setup) in a separate update. That's how I was able to interop-unlock my HTC phone with a retail ROM.
@flobo09: If you got the HTC update apart from the Mango update but you *didn't* upgrade from a pre-release Mango version, please explain how you did it!
Yeah, I went trough that upgrade path as I am a registered developer - I am still Interop-Unlocked on Mango (with the HTC Update) aswell but I still can't tether (did not try the USB Method) but if I get this right, this thread is about the official method of tethering (via ICS) - right?
Yes this thread is only for LG E900 Optimus 7 Phone
Don´t mess up with other handsets like HTC SAMSUNG OMNIA7 to keep thread clean.
Also no tweaking like INTEROPS oder DEVUNLOCK is recommended
We all know that those issues are helpful , but this thread is intended for "normal" users, whitout any ambitions for sophisticated Homebrews and Hacks.
Thanks
Here are the actual INFOS of my LG Phone:
WP7-Device
LG E900 Optimus
Provider: VDF-GER
OS:7.10.7720.68 Windows Phone 7.5
FW: 1.0.16.10
HW:1.0.0.0
WiFISW: 1.0.16.0
WiFiHW:0.3.5.0
BL: 1.5.1.0
Chip-SOC: 0.30.2.0
There's an update coming soon..
http://www.plaffo.com/2011/10/lg-optimus-7-disponibile-un-nuovo-aggiornamento-firmware/
I just got an update message in Zune on a DE bought Optimus 7 (now in NL on VF business NL sim) and after applying the update, the internet sharing option appeared out of nowhere in settings yay!
It looks like its WiFi only for now though, I would prefer USB tetheringpersonally. IP address of the connected client is 192.168.33.187, and I have an antenna icon in the status bar when enabled. I have to choose between connecting to an access point or acting like one, so you can't have both at the same time which sounds logically to me.
OS 7.10.7720.68
FW 1.0.16.10
HW 1.0.0.0
Radio SW 1.0.16.10
Radio HW 0.3.5.0
BL 1.5.1.0
SOC 0.30.2.0
USB Tehtering
Hi,
USB also works like before NoDo...
Just use MFG app to switch USB-Port setting from MS COMPOSITE to QC COMPOSITE, deactivate DATA Connection and setup your CDMA Modem in Windows like described in other threads.
Greets
U.
just a dumb question why is it that WM 6.5 can have the data connection active while usb tethering. My ancient HD2 can do both at the same time...but my HD7 can't dispite having IDENTICAL hardware lol...
I have 2 E900 coming in the mail and it seems pointless to have wireless tethering when the phone is charging via USB....
It's a matter of whether the phone is routing the connection (which apparently WinMo did) or is exposing the cellular modem directly to the USB connection (which is what the wired tethering hacks for WP7 do). Note that the official WiFi tethering feature uses routing and doesn't require disabling data on the phone.
"Samsing Update for Windows Phone"
Seems like Samsung is on the go again. Currently got this update (when eagerly coding code, switching windows back and forth).
So what is this (new) update?
- Anyone heard any news what it is (or even got it)?
I took a screenshot before updating, to compare with the new one if there is a difference (result when update finished).
Attachment for eye visuals
edit:
Seems like its two rounds of update's
edit 2:
"What changed"
- Free'd space on the device? (200 MB for me)
- Updated Firmware (2424.11.9.2), Radio (242.11.9.1) and Bootloader (5.9.0.6)
//fiinix
fiinix said:
"Samsing Update for Windows Phone"
Seems like Samsung is on the go again. Currently got this update (when eagerly coding code, switching windows back and forth).
So what is (new) this update?
- Anyone heard any news what it is (or even got it)?
I took a screenshot before updating, to compare with the new one if there is a difference (result when update finished).
Attachment for eye visuals
//fiinix
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Is your device branded or unbranded ?
What´s your current firmware ?
I don´t get any update information....
I got it now, I've not heard about that. I didn't notice a thing for now. I hope we will get an explanation about this.
contable said:
Is your device branded or unbranded ?
What´s your current firmware ?
I don´t get any update information....
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Mango Final
Samsung Omnia 7
Unbranded
Can't see much more right now; Currently _in_ the update progress.
fiinix said:
Mango Final
Samsung Omnia 7
Unbranded
Can't see much more right now; Currently _in_ the update progress.
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Ok.
Final Mango has firmware 2424.11.8.5,
The latest SFR-France update has firmware 2424.11.9.3
and
The latest T-Mobile update 2424.11.9.4.
Just for you info...
I would say it´s the latest samsung update for unbranded devices.
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The carrier updates have the same radio version: 2424.11.9.1.
As mentioned before what you got is the latest update for unbranded devices.
Anyway good to know that it´s available...
When you get a chance, dump the update logs and see what changed.
I have an unbranded handset, changes are the same as first post:
Before:
OS : 7.10.7720.68
Firmware revision : 2424.11.8.5
Hardware revision : 3.15.0.4
Radio software : 2424.11.7.2
Radio hardware : 0.0.0.800
Bootloader : 5.8.1.9
Chip SOC : 0.36.2.0
After Update
OS : 7.10.7720.68
Firmware revision : 2424.11.9.2
Hardware revision : 3.15.0.4
Radio software : 2424.11.9.1
Radio hardware : 0.0.0.800
Bootloader : 5.9.0.6
Chip SOC : 0.36.2.0
** No internet tethering **
Some people have gotten Internet Sharing from FW 11.9.4
I'm using the unbranded generic UK FW and only gotten 11.9.2. With no internet sharing. Others?
I'm hoping this fixes the data issues when enabling/disabling. So I don't have to restart 50% of the time.
Does it break the jailbreak
When updating this new update, does it break the jailbreak.
It is approx. 14 days back, I received a Zune update for my Omnia7 (T-Mobile CZ).
After update:
Firmware: 2424.11.9.4
Radio soft.: 2424.11.9.1
Bootloader : 5.9.3.0
+ Internet Sharing
rastascan said:
I have an unbranded handset, changes are the same as first post:
Before:
OS : 7.10.7720.68
Firmware revision : 2424.11.8.5
Hardware revision : 3.15.0.4
Radio software : 2424.11.7.2
Radio hardware : 0.0.0.800
Bootloader : 5.8.1.9
Chip SOC : 0.36.2.0
After Update
OS : 7.10.7720.68
Firmware revision : 2424.11.9.2
Hardware revision : 3.15.0.4
Radio software : 2424.11.9.1
Radio hardware : 0.0.0.800
Bootloader : 5.9.0.6
Chip SOC : 0.36.2.0
** No internet tethering **
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I had the same update, didn't noticed any change in performances or features...
just got the 2 updates also.
my device was a t-mobile uk which I forced nodo on previously and most recently mango, no not the carrier updates.
my stats:
os: 7.10.7720.68
fw: 2424.11.9.2
hw: 3.15.0.4
rs: 2424.11.9.1
rhw: 0.0.0.800
bl: 5.9.0.6
soc: 0.36.2.0
confirmed no tethering option
please don't make me have to downgrade and use the official t-mobile bloated software to get thethering
Tethering on Omnia 7
I succeeded in getting tethering on my Omnia 7, as follows:
1. Make sure you have the update talked about here.
2. Your phone must be unlocked - I have the Chevron unlock.
3. Get the following xap file: http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=772980&stc=1&d=1320528530 and use the Application Deployment tool to send it to your phone.
4. Install the Diagnosis app (if you haven't got it already) by typing ##634#.
5. In the Diagnosis app type *#9908#, select "System Tweaks". Press Save, then Close, then restart the phone.
6. You now have "Internet sharing" in your system setup menu.
7. If you now lost your cellular data connection (I did and almost panicked ) restore it by using Samsung's Network Profile app - worked for me.
8. Everything working perfectly for me now!
Reference: http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2011...msung-omnia-7-and-samsung-focus-in-one-click/
Guys. What's new in this update?
Unbranded handset on Orange RO here, got the 2 updates today, didn't notice anything new besides the extra megs, no internet sharing.
hujer said:
It is approx. 14 days back, I received a Zune update for my Omnia7 (T-Mobile CZ).
After update:
Firmware: 2424.11.9.4
Radio soft.: 2424.11.9.1
Bootloader : 5.9.3.0
+ Internet Sharing
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I also received it 14 days ago. Samsung Omnia 7 (16GB) here with T-Mobile Germany branding.
OS: Mango (7720.68)
Firmware: 2424.11.9.4
Radio: 2424.11.9.1
Bootloader: 5.9.3.0 (yeah I got the new bootloader )
I received Internet sharing on the first day with Mango.
Guess this is only a little refresh for unbranded devices to clean up some junk and add internet sharing.
Recieved the update just now.
Samsung Omnia 7
OS: 7.10.7720.68
FW: 2424.11.9.2
HW Rev: 3.15.0.4
Radio SW: 2424.11.9.1
Radio HW: 0.0.0.800
Bootloader: 5.9.0.6
Got Internet Sharing added under Settings, haven't looked thoroughly for any other changes.
update in progress, Omnia 7 on Orange UK.....
EDIT
I see 2nd update being applied.
so people can only get tethering if you are either
a) chevron unlocked (which means downgrading etc etc)?
or
b) on the official carrier OS?
what about unbranded devices? are we not to get it because our OS is not carrier branded?
Not all of us are chevron unlocked (just in case people on here forget!)
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did you have the unbranded mango rom? or is this carrier mango?
Boblebad said:
Recieved the update just now.
Samsung Omnia 7
OS: 7.10.7720.68
FW: 2424.11.9.2
HW Rev: 3.15.0.4
Radio SW: 2424.11.9.1
Radio HW: 0.0.0.800
Bootloader: 5.9.0.6
Got Internet Sharing added under Settings, haven't looked thoroughly for any other changes.
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Samsung Omnia 7
- Stock, clean, SIM free, not branded device. (Not debranded.)
- Curently on T-mo, Macedonia.
- No internet sharing after the update.
Almost everyone on branded devices got the IS.
Apparently MS or manufacturer enabled only those devices that have a clear permission from the carrier on carrier devices only. Hope I'm wrong.
Disappointment is obvious, lessons learned.
KraFT
OS: 7.10.7720.68
FW: 2424.11.9.2
HW Rev: 3.15.0.4
Radio SW: 2424.11.9.1
Radio HW: 0.0.0.800
Bootloader: 5.9.0.6
Goodnight community,
there is a new update for the Samsung Omnia 7 avaible. It was released 6 minutes ago. My phone is the 16 GB version with Telekom Germany branding.
As most of you know, 7.10.7720 was the newest Mango, but now I have 7.10.7740.16.
Click the link below for a screenshot of the update message.
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/918/newupdate.png
I am the first who updated my device to this version according to this site:
http://www.lynxinteractive.com/WP7DeviceStats/
Also according to that site, only the Nokia Lumia, the HTC Titan and the HTC HD7 were running this version of Mango.
A dump of the Settings -> Info page:
OS: 7.10.7740.16
Firmware: 2424.11.9.4
HW: 3.15.0.4
Radio: 0.0.0.800
Bootloader: 5.9.3.0
SOC: 0.36.2.0
Translated changelog:
- Fixed an E-Mail bug with Microsoft Exchange Server 2003.
When replying or redirecting a mail, it will contain the text of the previous mail.
- Fixed a bug with the Mailboxnotifications.
-mSc
Did you lose your jailbreak?
StefanBN said:
Did you lose your jailbreak?
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I did not.
Custom accent colors, Zune SmartDJ modifications, ..., even the Interop Unlock is still present.
My father has the same phone as I do, unlocked the same way and also running most of the modifications I have on my own phone.
There is no update avaible for him.
Thanks. I just hope that this update fixes color banding on my Omnia..
What a nice birthday gift!
No update for me though... unbranded UK CSC...
nothing for H3G
Guys, i own an unbranded omnia 7 and my firmware is still 2424.11.8.2, i wonder if i should try to push the firmware manually or it's just as it should be ..
StefanBN said:
Thanks. I just hope that this update fixes color banding on my Omnia..
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I looked into it in WP Bench, the issue is still present.
If you have got a developer unlocked device, you can fix the issue yourself within 2 minutes.
To the rest: No update message for my second Omnia 7. I'll try to answer all questions and will let you know whenever I see an update popup.
Yes, I've Interpop unlocked my phone, but it is on Mango. There is no fix, as I know for Mango, only for NoDo.
Weird......
Ive got a Mozart and Titan.
Mozart is branded UK Orange, The Titan is unbranded.
Both have had an update through Zune in tha last 20 minutes or so.......
The Mozart is 7740.16, My Titan is still 7720.68
No internet sharing on Mozart.....
My Samsung Omnia 7 Device got an Update too. But i dont have any information about the Changelog - in Zune there is no such Updateinformation.
Strange...
no update for LG c-900b
in fact still waiting for tethering drivers update...
I wonder if this update also fixes the disappearing keyboard issue.
Zunes starts updating, phone reboots, aaaaaannnnnd:
Error
Code:
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START OF UPDATEVALIDATOR ERROR MESSAGES
================================================
ERROR: E_CANNOT_UPDATE_TO_HIGHEST_VERSION: CreatePaths: For package named: IUCORE cannot find a path to highest expected version of: 7.10.7740.16
ERROR: UpdateOrderFromFileList: ULDR Update: ULDR Update Failed with HRESULT : 0x80180048
=====================================================================
GOOD PACKAGES AND BAD PACKAGES LIST
=====================================================================
UpdateOrderFromFileList failed with code 0x80180048
BAD PACKAGE 1 : iucore.7.10.7720.68-7.10.7740.16.cab.pku ERROR CODE: 0x80180048
Total number of Bad Packages: 1
Process Failed with code 0x80180048
UpdateValidator finished at 05:47:36 04/21/1980
Samsung Omnia 7, Orange UK, fw 0222.11.8.5, bl 5.8.1.9, not unlocked.
Has anyone else experienced a similar error?
same here, orange aswell.. but Im living in Brazil..
dunno if it's related but i've used the samsung firmware updater =[
Few minutes ago installed same update to LG Optimus 7 via Zune.
here in austria, my devices have no updates. omnia 7 and optimus 7. both unbranded ...
Country: England, Network: T-Mobile, Device: Samsung Omnia7
Unbranded 000-88 -> No Zune Update
Samsung Omnia7 T-Mobile UK TMO-GB (via Regedit) -> Zune update for 7.10.7740.16
BUT update fails, as I had used WP7 cab sender to force SFR-FR KI3 firmware.
I think flashing cabs halts the Zune update path.
I think I'll flash a preNoDo branded TMU Rom very shortly and update all the way via Zune. Damn branded is the way to go :-/
just to add a little piece of information: no updates for htc mazaa available
HI
now been updated
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19430778&postcount=53
ya, I think the samsung SFR-FR KI3 thing f*ked up our updates u.u
- update the firmware using SFR-FR KI3
- connected to macintosh wp7 utility - no updates
- connect to zune (via bootcamp) - new update = FAILED
- phone reset
- macintosh utility wp7 - no updates again
- zune - no updates
Tried to use the Windows Support Tool, by setting my device into recovery mode, but the freakin tool didnt recognize
same thing with my friend's omnia, which is basically the same: Orange uk, SFR-FR KI3, 7720
and they say android is fragmented ._.
Dear all i just got a new lg g3 when i check for software upgrade from phone it say no new software. i installed lg pc suite and i clicked on check for upgrade i got a new upgrade it says :
current version : d85520c- none
latest version : V20C - L
should i upgrade or it will make a problem and which is better ?
thanks.
Your phone has already the newest firmware: d85520c = V20C
lg mobile support tool
Montechristo said:
Your phone has already the newest firmware: d85520c = V20C
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when i open lg mobile support tool it says there is software upgrade do u want to upgrade?
OTA's can take longer to be available than the kdz (via PC Suite). upgrade if you want to. I'm not sure of the changelogs, but it'll be the typical bug fixes etc. if you're having issues where you are, perhaps it might be in your interest to upgrade