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for those users, if you are on a custom GB rom, like Buisiness Gingersense, Pure Speed, Shift, etc, you can do all the mumbo jumbo to go back to stock to grab the 2.3.4 update that you want. but, consider this, you will lose root, and not be able to obtain it for quite a while, remind me if i am wrong, but didn't it take a few months to get root when the dinc orginally got froyo back in september of 2010? (thank god for unrevoked)
but, again, losing root would mean some apps won't work right. and mainly, no CWM, and no custom roms right of the bat. yes i have the stock rom backed up here on my pc. but, as far as waiting, i'd do it. if you ask me i'd rather wait.
now, those that are not rooted, and have everything stock still, by all means, grab it up.
wanting and needing are totally different,if you don't absolutely have to have it then wait. the difference between what's new around the corner and what we have now isn't much different anyway. new radio isn't guaranteed to make data/signal better or worse. custom sense kernels doesn't help much for aosp with exception of glitchy 720p record/playback. this isn't highly needed by everyone. best to wait anyway since newer doesn't always mean better. might backfire if you take the plunge of impatience
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wanting and needing are totally different,if you don't absolutely have to have it then wait. the difference between what's new around the corner and what we have now isn't much different anyway. new radio isn't guaranteed to make data/signal better or worse. custom sense kernels doesn't help much for aosp with exception of glitchy 720p record/playback. this isn't highly needed by everyone. best to wait anyway since newer doesn't always mean better. might backfire if you take the plunge of impatience
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i guess some people got ahold of the 07.07 radio...no real discernable difference, it's just an update.
Why unroot? Once it's posted on here give it 3 hours and a completed stock rooted rom will be released.
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i would bet money that once the exe is up someone will rip it apart and may a rom and from there wildstang and joelz will have a rom out in hours and not months.
remember when the first leak was out? it was less then a day we had a working rom. then a week later we had a working rom with 3.0 sense.
I'll answer the question, I just un-rooted to pick up the update and boy does it suck. Wanna pull down the notification bar to turn off wifi or hit silent mode? Too bad. Do you like adding effects to your pictures? Photoshop express baby. Why isn't the flipclock working? Because it doesn't, that's why. Tried to switch my homescreens around and all that happened was nothing. Where are all the pictures in the menus? Not there is where.
I'm about to hit up Unrevoked and get Warm Synergy back on my phone. That was like... scary kinda. We've come a long way, fellas!
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I'll answer the question, I just un-rooted to pick up the update and boy does it suck. Wanna pull down the notification bar to turn off wifi or hit silent mode? Too bad. Do you like adding effects to your pictures? Photoshop express baby. Why isn't the flipclock working? Because it doesn't, that's why. Tried to switch my homescreens around and all that happened was nothing. Where are all the pictures in the menus? Not there is where.
I'm about to hit up Unrevoked and get Warm Synergy back on my phone. That was like... scary kinda. We've come a long way, fellas!
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ROFL! i just want the damn radio. i wounder how long before the RUU exe shows up.
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i would bet money that once the exe is up someone will rip it apart and may a rom and from there wildstang and joelz will have a rom out in hours and not months.
remember when the first leak was out? it was less then a day we had a working rom. then a week later we had a working rom with 3.0 sense.
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I remember that RMK had a flashable zip of the leak up in about an hour or two. Granted, it wasn't "tweaked" at all, it was just made available so you could keep root while trying the leak out.
Since everyone is anxious about it, especially since it went from "no the Inc won't get it" to "it's coming out in stages this week", I'll bet within a day we'll have a rooted stock ROM available to flash, and tweaked ROM's within a few days.
Just my $0.02.
Im staying rooted, waiting for the update to be flashable.
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I may be wrong but if you have s-off you should be able to flash a custom recovery and there for be able to root the new ota or at least restore an old already rooted nandroid. At least thats what the unrevoked/forever site makes it sound like. Someone correct me if im wrong.
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I may be wrong but if you have s-off you should be able to flash a custom recovery and there for be able to root the new ota or at least restore an old already rooted nandroid. At least thats what the unrevoked/forever site makes it sound like. Someone correct me if im wrong.
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Basically football or somebody else is going to post a PB31IMG. zip. Somebody is gonna download it strip out everything but the boot.img, system and data folders. Add root and busybox and reupload. It's a little more complicated then that, but that's about it.
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No way i would give up root.
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I'll answer the question, I just un-rooted to pick up the update and boy does it suck. Wanna pull down the notification bar to turn off wifi or hit silent mode? Too bad. Do you like adding effects to your pictures? Photoshop express baby. Why isn't the flipclock working? Because it doesn't, that's why. Tried to switch my homescreens around and all that happened was nothing. Where are all the pictures in the menus? Not there is where.
I'm about to hit up Unrevoked and get Warm Synergy back on my phone. That was like... scary kinda. We've come a long way, fellas!
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So did Unrevoked work with the OTA?
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So did Unrevoked work with the OTA?
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It's a completely different ROM, and most importantly, kernel. It's not going to work.
I unrooted my Incredible, never used any roms anyway.
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Im staying rooted, waiting for the update to be flashable.
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already is flashable as of a few minutes ago
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already is flashable as of a few minutes ago
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And here it is: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1219407
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after the last update, I'm unconvinced that this update will be better than the Synergy ROM. I'd rather stay rooted, wait for flashable custom kernels to come out, and if the radio is any good, snag that, too. the last one was a nightmare with all that bloatware; can't imagine what sort of crap they added this time.
The rooted version has already been released here on XDA. I for one will never unroot my phone. The OVO Community Rom RC5 is AMAZING.
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The rooted version has already been released here on XDA. I for one will never unroot my phone. The OVO Community Rom RC5 is AMAZING.
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I will never unroot either.. I'm running OVO RC4.. LOVING IT... Sence 3.0 is great. I'm guessing you are testing RC5? Its not public yet right? Looking forward to it.
Do you know if I will have to do a full wipe again before i upgrade to 5? Trying to decide if I should set up my phone the way i like it, or wait on 5...
So far I have zero complaints about this phone, there are some ui things I would like fixed, and I know can be fixed via rooting, but they just don't seem to be enough to push me over the edge. I have files downloaded and ready to go, but just can't seem to take the plunge. I thought I had my first los today, but the phone recovered as soon as I was back in signal(if it hadn't that would have done it).
So why should I root?
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You can always revert back to the stock kernel if you have an issue (or have them that frequently that you can't stand it). Anybody who thinks that once you root there is no way to go back is an idiot. "lol, I got no LOS then I rooted and even though I put stock kernel back its all [email protected] lol" not true.
I got 2 LOS in the first week stock...rooted...got a bit more than usual, but nothing crazy. Flashed stock kernel back, still rooted, didn't have another for a few weeks until I flashed a new kernel...flashed back, have had none...etc etc etc, YMMV, but, umm, I don't think you have anything to be afraid of. Just know what you are doing...don't just flash stuff and figure it out later. Know why you want something and how to 'put it back'...also having/making a USB jig would be a good idea, but not necessary.
You can get them for like $3 on amazon or build one with a microUSB cable and $1 worth of stuff from radioshack.
I don't know about you but I certainly didn't get this phone to NOT mod it.
I didn't get the phone to keep it stock, not really worried about los, it recovers after flying for 2 hours with no signal, rooting shouldn't make much difference., planning on using viperom and lostkernel.
Maybe tomorrow I will root
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I didn't get the phone to keep it stock, not really worried about los, it recovers after flying for 2 hours with no signal, rooting shouldn't make much difference., planning on using viperom and lostkernel.
Maybe tomorrow I will root
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The only thing I can tell you is that read the directions and understand ODIN for all of the ODIN stuff you do. That is one of the ways you can brick the fnck out of this phone...not paying attention in ODIN. Don't write a partition if you are not told to...and try to only use it to flash a kernel+CWM and flash everything else from CWM if and when possible.
If you aren't worried about LOS (and it is real and under the right circumstances it'll effect every phone...reboot...no big deal...if it is flash a pulled stock kernel) then go for it.
I haven't tried ViperROM on this phone yet, but, I can tell you from my time with the E3D that kid knows what he's doin'....I'm sure this ROM is no different and I've heard nothing but great things about the LoST kernel.
If you don't want to root, don't. Why would anyone want to pressure you?
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Tell us how it goes. You won't be disappointed.
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If U need convincing, you probably don't need it.
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Someone convince me to strangle my puppy. I love him and all and he is very well mannered but if you guys can talk me into strangling him, I will.
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If U need convincing, you probably don't need it.
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I agree. You root cause u want to. If u want someone to convince u then maybe u shouldn't.
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I don't understand why some people view this almost like losing their virginity, trying a drug or robbing a liquor store. It's a very well understood technical process with very specific pros and cons that are also very well understood.
Yep. First android phone for me, and I bought it with the full intention of making it MY phone. After all, they are basically an additional limb for most people, no? (I'd say if you're registered with xda that is most likely the case! ) So you might as well go balls to the walls, right? If you're not into that kind of thing, then keep it stock! This phone is AMAZING just sitting at the home screen...it looks awesome! It is a great piece of technology, with plenty of great features and capability, and will serve you very well whether its rooted or not. Good luck with whatever you do!
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If you don't want to root, don't. Why would anyone want to pressure you?
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Not looking for pressure. I will probably root it tomorrow or next week
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Because all the cool kids are doing it!
I broke down and did it yesterday when someone said viper ROM solved his app freezing due to using a ton of CPU usage bug. So far, so good.
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OP if you are on EG30 baseband could you extract the modem.bin file for us so we could test it?
I would just stay stock. Honestly, no offense to the developers, but there is just nothing substantial out there. If you want a couple of different themes, you could consider rooting, but other than that every ROM I have flashed provided close to nothing really.
I mean, what? Battery percentage mod? Removed CIQ? "Speed" tweaks? A reboot option?
Nothing made this phone faster or more efficient than stock touchWiz. There is no real difference except that people like to flash, so they would flash anything.
Sorry. That's just my take on it.
Wait for MIUI or CM.
I gotta say i miss root, I was finicky on rooting my epic 4g ad once I did, oooh lord I never looked back , of course I've stumbled into troubles but following directions, I got back on track and learned a few this gs along the way, now what's stopping me on rooting the ET4G is not having the actual way to go back to full true stock,like we were able to do on the epic 4g with using Odin, giving you a factory full stock phone , or any older device, since we don't have true stock roms and kernels, unless I'm wrong g of course and I've been missing out! If so direct me!
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I gotta say i miss root, I was finicky on rooting my epic 4g ad once I did, oooh lord I never looked back , of course I've stumbled into troubles but following directions, I got back on track and learned a few this gs along the way, now what's stopping me on rooting the ET4G is not having the actual way to go back to full true stock,like we were able to do on the epic 4g with using Odin, giving you a factory full stock phone , or any older device, since we don't have true stock roms and kernels, unless I'm wrong g of course and I've been missing out! If so direct me!
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We have stock roms to ODIN, but it's not factory stock. We have the factory stock kernel that was pulled from a stock phone. What we lack is an OEM RUU to make it 100%-in-every-way-stock.
That said, I have trashed my 4G and wifi somehow on multiple occasions due to rampant recklessness on my part. I just factory-wiped (apparently...I don't remember that part but I must have) and flashed the ODIN rooted stock (with stock kernel) and it fixes everything every time.
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We have stock roms to ODIN, but it's not factory stock. We have the factory stock kernel that was pulled from a stock phone. What we lack is an OEM RUU to make it 100%-in-every-way-stock.
That said, I have trashed my 4G and wifi somehow on multiple occasions due to rampant recklessness on my part. I just factory-wiped (apparently...I don't remember that part but I must have) and flashed the ODIN rooted stock (with stock kernel) and it fixes everything every time.
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So then you recommend rooting this early?
i rooted so i could have wifi tethering and control over CPU speeds (via setcpu) in addition, there's some neat functionality that starburst ROM allows:
- better lock screens
- motion controlled silencing of phone
- battery % viewing
some people care about the speed tweaks (i haven't noticed any speed increase) and ciq (i don't really care for this), but there are several reasons to root. that being said, if you don't need the additional functionality of the phone, then preserve your phone's warranty!
Yea I'd say stay stock in terms of the ROM and kernel, but hell yea why not root? Right now I'm running stock kernel with CWM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1305099) and the stock ROM with root and busybox (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1282415) and I love it. I was running Midnight ROM but I went back to stock to see if that helped the LoS issues at all. If you're like me and really just want control over the hotspot feature and CPU underclocking (things of that nature) then def go stock rooted fo shoski.
Well, I stopped on the way home from work today to see what was new at Sprint. I've been thinking about getting the EVO 3D... I came home with a Touch.
So. I want to root, so I can run root apps like um, Ad Free etc. What do I need to know about rooting this before I jump in head first? Do these phones have any stupid security etc or anything I need to know about?
I just wanna make sure I don't mess anything up.
What do we have for a recovery etc?
Any tips would be GREAT!
E4GT doesn't have all the locked bootloader stuff to worry about like EVO 3D.
You can start off here:
[ROOT][EG30] Automated root of your existing stock ROM (w/o ODIN or ROM Flash)
That will get you rooted on stock and won't involve flashing anything. It doesn't use ODIN.
There is also a tool called ODIN which lets you flash stuff to the phone outside of Android. It provides fastboot-like functionality. Using ODIN, if you flash unsigned kernels, your boot screen will get a yellow triangle and there is a flash count that gets incremented. Also it'll identify the phone in the boot screen by the real model name (I9100...) rather Galaxy S2. Other than that it'll still boot and work.
Question about this ODIN flasher thingy and the unsigned kernels. Why the increment count etc? What is the point to that?
Thanks for the info btw. I think the link you sent will be a good start. Don't need to flash any custom roms yet. I wanna get the hang of the stock one first. This Samsung has a very different feel then the HTC EVO/Sense stuff.
Need to ask Samsung.
Probably they want to keep track of whether you installed non-standard software, possibly for service reasons.
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BTW you can use a USB jig to get rid of the Yellow Triangle and reset the flash counter.
If you just want to get rid of the Yellow Triangle, you can flash back the stock kernel, then use other methods like the Root Installation Kit I pointed to earlier.
Once you get CWM, flashes through that won't affect the Yellow Triangle and flash count.
Just watch the roots right now the odin has an issue with LOS from what I have seen. I am currently using a direct root which roots the rom.
I assume LOS means loss of service?
OK! Noted.
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Just watch the roots right now the odin has an issue with LOS from what I have seen. I am currently using a direct root which roots the rom.
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Stock phones suffer from LOS too. Rooting and some kernels MAY make it worse. I've flashed nearly everything available for this device in the last month and have not had 1 serious unexplainable LOS.
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OK! Well I did the MOST important thing I wanted to do which was to get root in there so I could use Adfree!
I also did the EG30+CWM5 while I was there. Now what? What cool stuff is there to play with? Looking around the forums now, just not sure what to check out first.
kdoggy said:
OK! Well I did the MOST important thing I wanted to do which was to get root in there so I could use Adfree!
I also did the EG30+CWM5 while I was there. Now what? What cool stuff is there to play with? Looking around the forums now, just not sure what to check out first.
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If it were me, I would use the phone as is for a few days to get some feel for whether your situation will get LoS and what the battery life is. Then you have a baseline to compare to after you start making changes.
It is easy to get really excited and install a whole bunch of stuff and all of a sudden you get LoS or really bad battery life, and then you can't figure out what caused it or even what to expect with the stock phone.
This could lead you to think the phone is at fault when it is actually something that was installed later.
Also with the official Samsung rom out now most of the roms in development will be getting reworked shortly.
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Can someone point me to a thread that explains LOS and what do you do if you get it?
kdoggy said:
Can someone point me to a thread that explains LOS and what do you do if you get it?
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As far as I know the only thing you can really do is reboot the phone. going back to a stock kernal also helps.
kdoggy said:
I also did the EG30+CWM5 while I was there. Now what? What cool stuff is there to play with? Looking around the forums now, just not sure what to check out first.
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Install set CPU and underclock that puppy! Especially with the screen off. 200 min has worked flawlessly for me, and 800mhz Max still flies for most things.
The battery savings are staggering.
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As far as I know the only thing you can really do is reboot the phone. going back to a stock kernal also helps.
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clearing ram fixes it sometimes too
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Install set CPU and underclock that puppy! Especially with the screen off. 200 min has worked flawlessly for me, and 800mhz Max still flies for most things.
The battery savings are staggering.
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completely agree. been underclocked to 800mhz for a while. No difference in performance and battery increased probably 20%
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Install set CPU and underclock that puppy! Especially with the screen off. 200 min has worked flawlessly for me, and 800mhz Max still flies for most things.
The battery savings are staggering.
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I'll have to give that a try. I've never been into overclocking these phones. I don't game, I don't use them for video either. I just use them for work to look up help desk tickets while I'm going building to building.
Beats the hell out of lugging my MacBook around just to read some notes on the go.
Hi all
Just got an Inc 2. why else would I be posting here ,,,, anyhow I gotta have root mainly just to remove bloat, really undecided on which way though, HTC unlock or a full S off through the downgrade revolutionary method, I'm not realy a flashaholic, I would like to be able to use set CPU or the likes, for battery savings and maybe a little overclocking, phone seems pretty responsive if you ask me just coming from an Eris but I haven't loaded any apps on it yet either, heck I haven't even activated it yet (guess it's a little hard to let Ginger go ) I'd post a screen shot of her but she's a little shy.
So what's everyone thoughts on this if you had just recieved a brand new Incredible 2, with 2.3.4 Gingerbread, 5.10.605.9, 2.6.35.9 kernel; and now the news of Official ICS update soon to be released which way would you go to root HTC or S off?
Can you overclock/undervolt stock kernel?
Is it possible to flash a different kernel?
Any and all input on this will be greatly appriciated, Thanks In Advance
JRngln said:
Hi all
Just got an Inc 2. why else would I be posting here ,,,, anyhow I gotta have root mainly just to remove bloat, really undecided on which way though, HTC unlock or a full S off through the downgrade revolutionary method, I'm not realy a flashaholic, I would like to be able to use set CPU or the likes, for battery savings and maybe a little overclocking, phone seems pretty responsive if you ask me just coming from an Eris but I haven't loaded any apps on it yet either, heck I haven't even activated it yet (guess it's a little hard to let Ginger go ) I'd post a screen shot of her but she's a little shy.
So what's everyone thoughts on this if you had just recieved a brand new Incredible 2, with 2.3.4 Gingerbread, 5.10.605.9, 2.6.35.9 kernel; and now the news of Official ICS update soon to be released which way would you go to root HTC or S off?
Can you overclock/undervolt stock kernel?
Is it possible to flash a different kernel?
Any and all input on this will be greatly appriciated, Thanks In Advance
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You're gonna wanna downgrade and s-off. It's easier to flash ROMs, also you can flash radios that way. It's a slightly longer process to do so, but its worth not spending extra time when flashing ROMs. Mainly because you have to flash the kernel in fastboot if you use HTC unlock.
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Thanks for your quick response, thats just it I'm not realy a flashaholic and if I see a rom that I would like to flash, a little extra work wouldn't bother me stability speed and no issues have presedence for me, not worried about look at what I got, just overall balanced goodness
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Thanks for your quick response, thats just it I'm not realy a flashaholic and if I see a rom that I would like to flash, a little extra work wouldn't bother me stability speed and no issues have presedence for me, not worried about look at what I got, just overall balanced goodness
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As far as that goes, you'll see no difference in performance. So, just as far as easier to setup, I'd go with s-off.
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As far as that goes, you'll see no difference in performance. So, just as far as easier to setup, I'd go with s-off.
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My brain is all befuddled now with all the reading I've been doing and I forget does downgrading revert the radio?
JRngln said:
My brain is all befuddled now with all the reading I've been doing and I forget does downgrading revert the radio?
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It doesn't. It downgrades the hboot version. Now, if you s-off, you can flash any radio you wish. The recommended one is either the latest .1111 or .0722.
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It doesn't. It downgrades the hboot version. Now, if you s-off, you can flash any radio you wish. The recommended one is either the latest .1111 or .0722.
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Yes I have the latest.1111 with 2.3.4 Gingerbread, 5.10.605.9, kernel 2.6.35.9, it downgrades more than just the hboot doesn't it? I thought it downgraded the whole OS.
It will put you back to 2.2 or 2.3 I think but it does not affect radio. You van then flaws one of the rooms based off the latest stock update ( what you have) if that's what you want. Also, you can't oc stock kernel, use dresdills 21. Also if u use the HTC method you are guaranteed void warranty cause they know what you done. If you use other method you can revert to completely stock if you need too and they will never know if you need to because of hardware issues. Charging ports have been known to go bad so I would keep that in mind...
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It will put you back to 2.2 or 2.3 I think but it does not affect radio. You van then flaws one of the rooms based off the latest stock update ( what you have) if that's what you want. Also, you can't oc stock kernel, use dresdills 21. Also if u use the HTC method you are guaranteed void warranty cause they know what you done. If you use other method you can revert to completely stock if you need too and they will never know if you need to because of hardware issues. Charging ports have been known to go bad so I would keep that in mind...
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Yes I've heard about that kernel, I'm pretty sure that once you root they know it cause all there tracking, or most of there tracking software goes offline for them, and they know that the only reason, for the most part, that the phone dissapeared is root. I thought htc unlock still gave you a warranty although more limitted. And yes I learned from the Eris when the phone is on the charger be extra extra carefull with it, even if it meens don't touch it.
Root doesn't take out anything, and I'm not sure what tracking your referring to anyways. The only way anything would be took out is if you do it, or the rom you install does. If they know you done it, and you think it may be more limited, that's just a way of saying now we have a reason to deny you anytime we feel like it. But if your set on that, do it, not gonna argue its your phone could care less, you wanted opinions you got it, either way good luck...
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Root doesn't take out anything, and I'm not sure what tracking your referring to anyways. The only way anything would be took out is if you do it, or the rom you install does. If they know you done it, and you think it may be more limited, that's just a way of saying now we have a reason to deny you anytime we feel like it. But if your set on that, do it, not gonna argue its your phone could care less, you wanted opinions you got it, either way good luck...
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I never said that root in and of itself took out anything, it's the stuff we take out once we root. Your not sure what tracking I'm referring to, Look up Carrier IQ .
I charged this phone turned it on bypassed activation shut off the networks just to play around with it and it was still reporting network traffic, How, Why?
This phone has the ability to get past the switch thats thrown when you shut off your data connections. I did just activate the phone, I had forgot to turn data back on before doing so, but it didn't matter; after phone booted up and was settling in I saw the 3g icon pop up in the status bar, thats what reminded me, [I thought I shut that off] and sure enough it was still off, yet it still sent data, but where to? I'm not set on anything yet, yes I'm trying to get many opinions and I thank you for your input this phones been out for a while now and many things have changed since it was first released, like ICS, and htc unlock of the hboot. Much of the activity about rooting this phone is a year or more old and with the deals and such that are being thrown around now to move the remaning stock off shelves there will be ( I'm sure ) many newcomers to the phone and this forum so an updated collection of thoughts on this I figured would be welcome especially if there was some input from the veterans of this phone. And again thank you
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I never said that root in and of itself took out anything, it's the stuff we take out once we root. Your not sure what tracking I'm referring to, Look up Carrier IQ .
I charged this phone turned it on bypassed activation shut off the networks just to play around with it and it was still reporting network traffic, How, Why?
This phone has the ability to get past the switch thats thrown when you shut off your data connections. I did just activate the phone, I had forgot to turn data back on before doing so, but it didn't matter; after phone booted up and was settling in I saw the 3g icon pop up in the status bar, thats what reminded me, [I thought I shut that off] and sure enough it was still off, yet it still sent data, but where to? I'm not set on anything yet, yes I'm trying to get many opinions and I thank you for your input this phones been out for a while now and many things have changed since it was first released, like ICS, and htc unlock of the hboot. Much of the activity about rooting this phone is a year or more old and with the deals and such that are being thrown around now to move the remaning stock off shelves there will be ( I'm sure ) many newcomers to the phone and this forum so an updated collection of thoughts on this I figured would be welcome especially if there was some input from the veterans of this phone. And again thank you
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Our phones dont have carrier IQ...
Zax_Was_Here said:
Our phones dont have carrier IQ...
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Are you sure? And I hope your right . Still our privacy is being taken away from us more and more each and every day
JRngln said:
Are you sure? And I hope your right . Still our privacy is being taken away from us more and more each and every day
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verizon htc phones do not have any CIQ at all (at least as of gb)
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verizon htc phones do not have any CIQ at all (at least as of gb)
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I know that that's what they had said Officially But I OFFICIALLY have my doubts . Have you ever checked it out with the app?
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I know that that's what they had said Officially But I OFFICIALLY have my doubts . Have you ever checked it out with the app?
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as a matter of fact yes i have, our stock rom 5.xx is clean
the ports may or may not have it (depending if it was cleaned out or not by individual dev) but since its not running on the phone/carrier it was meant to, it wouldnt properly function
honestly i never really cared that much, i think the ciq drama was blown out of proportion
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as a matter of fact yes i have, our stock rom 5.xx is clean
the ports may or may not have it (depending if it was cleaned out or not by individual dev) but since its not running on the phone/carrier it was meant to, it wouldnt properly function
honestly i never really cared that much, i think the ciq drama was blown out of proportion
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I'm glad to hear that.
Blown out of proportion? Not really, Think about it you send someone a text messg and CIQ knew what the text said BEFORE your intended recipient even recieved it,....... before you even sent it!
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I'm glad to hear that.
Blown out of proportion? Not really, Think about it you send someone a text messg and CIQ knew what the text said BEFORE your intended recipient even recieved it,....... before you even sent it!
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idk, doesnt really affect me...but the Sprint guys were all up in arms about it...mabye if i had a phone that it was an issue on id care more
Anyways, I flashed a custom ROM and CIQ would be gone anyways. I think nowadays we have to realize that we are going to always be tracked in some way.
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I'm pretty sure that once you root they know it cause all there tracking, or most of there tracking software goes offline for them, and they know that the only reason, for the most part, that the phone dissapeared is root.
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Yep, I checked, it appears you did say that, but anyways... things are easier with the s off alpha rev x method but the other way will work too so whatever floats your boat...
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I have never rooted a phone before(well technically I rooted an HTC Inspire, which I was asked to do, but I did nothing on it involving the Root). What are some reasons I should root, and can anything go wrong during the root process? Just putting this out there, I will not be flashing any ROMs, as I know there is a chance that the device can be bricked While flashing if something goes wrong, and I do not have a spare phone to go back to if something does go wrong.
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If your not going to use customs ROMs having root access will allow you to delete any app you desire including all the preloaded sprint ones. You will also be able to download and use any apps that require root for enhanced functionality. Beyond that, there's not a whole lot of difference you'll see.
In the early days, people would do root only to adjust memory values on phones like the g1 and hero. There were a lot of settings you could tweak on a stock phone to make it better with the addition of root. Now with today's technology and phones like the E4GT, alot of those tweaks are unnecessary. The ones that are helpful are lower level and best done by a ROM dev or someone who knows what they are changing. Custom ROMs will have these included usually.
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Removing bloatware that wastes ram and flash storage space, certain apps are smoother (tasker, some launchers, and custom lockscreens for example), ability to block ads, better backup capabilities, ability to underclock the cpu for those times you need to squeeze extra battery life out, and so on.
If none of this sounds important, then don't root. It can be a little bit of a puzzle getting back to stock sometimes, but it is extremely extremely hard to do something to your phone that is not reversible at this point. Note this statement is not true for all phones, especially newly released phones. But it is true for the epic touch.
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Yeah.. I second what the guy above said..lol.
Wasup King..
I third the guy above the guy above me and second the guy above him... My thoughts are if you have to make a thread asking others should I root when the basic community offers all the info on the profit or lost of rooting then I say leave your phone alone.
Do yourself a favor and get an extended battery and download foxfi and you will be just fine. Most of us... ok all of us in here are flash-a-holics and can't help ourselves that's why we do it... Do some reading in here take a look at rom pics and see if you really really really like something...
Good luck
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I third the guy above the guy above me and second the guy above him... My thoughts are if you have to make a thread asking others should I root when the basic community offers all the info on the profit or lost of rooting then I say leave your phone alone.
Do yourself a favor and get an extended battery and download foxfi and you will be just fine. Most of us... ok all of us in here are flash-a-holics and can't help ourselves that's why we do it... Do some reading in here take a look at rom pics and see if you really really really like something...
Good luck
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The truth can sometimes be cruel..lol. +1 to Playa..
The best thing about rooting for me is adblocking, I cant believe how many apps and things are bundled with intrusive ads.
Indrid Cole said:
The truth can sometimes be cruel..lol. +1 to Playa..
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Just trying to keep it real up in herrrrre! Ya Ya!
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The best thing about rooting for me is adblocking, I cant believe how many apps and things are bundled with intrusive ads.
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Just another app that root brings to the table:
Roam control lets you force into roam when you are stuck with one bar on Sprint.
Godsend for me!
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playya said:
I third the guy above the guy above me and second the guy above him... My thoughts are if you have to make a thread asking others should I root when the basic community offers all the info on the profit or lost of rooting then I say leave your phone alone.
Do yourself a favor and get an extended battery and download foxfi and you will be just fine. Most of us... ok all of us in here are flash-a-holics and can't help ourselves that's why we do it... Do some reading in here take a look at rom pics and see if you really really really like something...
Good luck
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I have seen several ROMs I love the look of, including AOKP, CM9, and Caulkin's ROMs. My only issue with ROMs is the fact that things can go wrong with flashing, and they can brick the device. And from what ive heard, there is an increased chance of bricking when flashing an ICS ROM while on GB. I have no backup device to go to if something like that does happen, so thats why Im staying away from flashing for now.
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I have seen several ROMs I love the look of, including AOKP, CM9, and Caulkin's ROMs. My only issue with ROMs is the fact that things can go wrong with flashing, and they can brick the device. And from what ive heard, there is an increased chance of bricking when flashing an ICS ROM while on GB. I have no backup device to go to if something like that does happen, so thats why Im staying away from flashing for now.
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The brick usually come from flashing to gb from ics using ics repacked kernels. There is always some risk/chance of brick from a bad flash, but El26 with cwm is fairly safe and the last kernel to have offical cwm. That is the only kernel i will use to flash anythin. I flash new roms every week. I have flashed to and from ics with no issues.
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EggosEvo said:
I have seen several ROMs I love the look of, including AOKP, CM9, and Caulkin's ROMs. My only issue with ROMs is the fact that things can go wrong with flashing, and they can brick the device. And from what ive heard, there is an increased chance of bricking when flashing an ICS ROM while on GB. I have no backup device to go to if something like that does happen, so thats why Im staying away from flashing for now.
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My friend you have been misinformed.... There is a risk in everything we do so like I said if worried don't do it. If you take some more time and read you will see that the tar files are pretty brick proof and problems have occurred when flashing roms on ICS and using an ICS recovery. Most developers have stopped using CWM in ICS roms.
Clearly you need to do a lil more reading if you want to root but like suggested just relax and wait for the OTA and you will be OK.... One more thing all instructions say to flashEL26 kernel which is GB to flash anything ICS..... so flashing ICS rom while on GB is wrong
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I have never rooted a phone before(well technically I rooted an HTC Inspire, which I was asked to do, but I did nothing on it involving the Root). What are some reasons I should root, and can anything go wrong during the root process? Just putting this out there, I will not be flashing any ROMs, as I know there is a chance that the device can be bricked While flashing if something goes wrong, and I do not have a spare phone to go back to if something does go wrong.
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1. Titanium Backup: remove those pesky system apps that Sprint really thinks you need.
2. File explorers: Being able to modify system folders to change things like the boot animation, etc.
3. Ad blocking: The ability to block ads (moral issues notwithstanding... but some apps have no paid version to get rid of the ads.)
4. Once you've rooted, it's just the beginning. You may change your mind about flashing and rooting your phone is the first step in learning more about your phone and the AndroidOS in general.
I have not seem anyone mention that it's also about the about the damn principal of the matter... why shouldn't you have root access for a device you bought? Also if you ODIN back to EL26 to flash, carefully read all instructions posted with the rom, and wait a day or two after the release and check the comments to make sure there hasn't been some sort of inexplicable rash of bricks thanks to the rom you won't have any problems to speak of... other than not being able to fathom how much better something like AOKP is than stock touchwiz gingerbread
Thanks to everyone. I've decided that I will root when the official ICS launches for my phone.
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Personally, I root to follow fledging developers open their ROMs. It is exhilarating to see the new stuff that people come up with and the creativity that ensues because of it.
Also enhancing my phone experience with free hotspot access and customization doesn't help. However if none of these interesting you I wouldn't recommend it.
Reason to root
I root because it can be done. It's that simple. To me, it feels like regardless of the magnitude of what you can or cannot do while rooted, or how easy or difficult it may be to root your phone, a skilled user should have access to everthing your phone is capable of.
Plus, I feel like I'm "sticking it to the man", which is an added bonus!
My main reason for rooting was to remove the bundled software that comes with the phone. But I love that fact that I don't have any ads either! If u decide to root, download AdFree from the market & u'll realize just how many "free" apps use adware