Is there no way to do this?
I honestly don't get the huge benefits of internal storage, I'm guessing its faster but serously how much does it matter that I pull my filesu p a few micro seconds if not seconds sooner than it does to have something portable and much more easily back up able?
The point of Apps2SD was when Android phones shipped with limited internal storage. Now that devices have around 16GB standard internal memory, it doesn't make any kind of sense to put apps on the external SD, especially since the nand chips are going to be faster than any MICROSD card you put in your phone.
The main reason it doesn't work with this device or any device that utilizes MTP over UMS is because instead of there being separate partitions for /data and /sdcard, they are basically all on one partition, you just have symlinks that all point to the same location.
MTP also allows you to connect your phone to your computer and access files on both your computer and phone at the same time without requiring you to unmount the internal storage.
So, in essence, what im trying to say is that the way things are progressing is only for the benefit of the average consumer. If you absolutely need to put your apps on the external SD card, you could always look into symlinks, but I haven't had any luck making them work consistently (but I haven't tried very hard).
Also, is there some particular reason you just absolutely dont want your apps on the internal memory?
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d3athsd00r said:
The point of Apps2SD was when Android phones shipped with limited internal storage. Now that devices have around 16GB standard internal memory, it doesn't make any kind of sense to put apps on the external SD, especially since the nand chips are going to be faster than any MICROSD card you put in your phone.
The main reason it doesn't work with this device or any device that utilizes MTP over UMS is because instead of there being separate partitions for /data and /sdcard, they are basically all on one partition, you just have symlinks that all point to the same location.
MTP also allows you to connect your phone to your computer and access files on both your computer and phone at the same time without requiring you to unmount the internal storage.
So, in essence, what im trying to say is that the way things are progressing is only for the benefit of the average consumer. If you absolutely need to put your apps on the external SD card, you could always look into symlinks, but I haven't had any luck making them work consistently (but I haven't tried very hard).
Also, is there some particular reason you just absolutely dont want your apps on the internal memory?
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1. MTP is def slower than default usb mass storage transfers
2. I have music on my external card, if I want to give my external sd to my sister for a long road trip, I can no longer do that (huge disadvantage)
3. mtp is kind of buggy, I mean I can't right click and accurately decipher the size of some folders
Those are the three disadvantages. Would you be able to resolve that? A lot of porgramsl ike spotify don't even give you the option to save files to sdcard...it is just default and internal now.
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1. MTP is def slower than default usb mass storage transfers
2. I have music on my external card, if I want to give my external sd to my sister for a long road trip, I can no longer do that (huge disadvantage)
3. mtp is kind of buggy, I mean I can't right click and accurately decipher the size of some folders
Those are the three disadvantages. Would you be able to resolve that? A lot of porgramsl ike spotify don't even give you the option to save files to sdcard...it is just default and internal now.
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Bind mounts will resolve your problem.
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zetsui said:
1. MTP is def slower than default usb mass storage transfers
2. I have music on my external card, if I want to give my external sd to my sister for a long road trip, I can no longer do that (huge disadvantage)
3. mtp is kind of buggy, I mean I can't right click and accurately decipher the size of some folders
Those are the three disadvantages. Would you be able to resolve that? A lot of porgramsl ike spotify don't even give you the option to save files to sdcard...it is just default and internal now.
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1. Our device does not support UMS by default (there is a hack for the external), but that wasn't even the point of this.
2. Yes you can. Just take the external out and hand it to her. But if you were to put your apps on your external then when you would take the external out, all your apps would be gone...so, still not seeing the point here.
3. Again, MTP was not the point of this. It is the fact that there is no real need to put apps on the SD card and none of these 3 reason had anything to do with that.
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Bind mounts will resolve your problem.
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Forgot about those. Going to attempt that to solve my Google Music issue.
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I'm running the 9-11-12 M1 nightly, and I'm experiencing an issue with my SD card. I haven't seen anything posted about it so my apologies if this has already been addressed. Really I'm having two issues, and they may be related.
Firstly, I can browse the SD card via windows explorer when I hook my phone up via USB, and my SD card shows up with accurate usage readings within settings/storage on my phone. However, whenever I try and use my file explorer on my phone, or any other feature that involves accessing the files on my SD card, I cannot. Apollo picks up my music, and the gallery pics up my pictures/video but nothing else seems to detect my SD card.
Secondarly what is happening is that everything on the SD card is being duplicated, as well as deleted, at random. Suddenly my gallery shows doubles of everything with one file being the normal picture and the other being completely blank (however with the same detail information). I view my phone via windows explorer and every folder is doubled, with one set of folders having the appropriate files and the other having various filetypes as numbers, as in instead of "picture1.png" it'd be "picture1.13." And then they'll suddenly all disappear. I listened to music via apollo on my way to work. I get to work and hook up my phone to the computer with the intention of copying some songs for a co-worker, and the entire music folder is gone along with all my pictures.
I don't know if this is a CM10 error, a hardware issue with the SD card, or I'm missing some sort of setting. Any advice at all would be helpful.
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I'm running the 9-11-12 M1 nightly, and I'm experiencing an issue with my SD card. I haven't seen anything posted about it so my apologies if this has already been addressed. Really I'm having two issues, and they may be related.
Firstly, I can browse the SD card via windows explorer when I hook my phone up via USB, and my SD card shows up with accurate usage readings within settings/storage on my phone. However, whenever I try and use my file explorer on my phone, or any other feature that involves accessing the files on my SD card, I cannot. Apollo picks up my music, and the gallery pics up my pictures/video but nothing else seems to detect my SD card.
Secondarly what is happening is that everything on the SD card is being duplicated, as well as deleted, at random. Suddenly my gallery shows doubles of everything with one file being the normal picture and the other being completely blank (however with the same detail information). I view my phone via windows explorer and every folder is doubled, with one set of folders having the appropriate files and the other having various filetypes as numbers, as in instead of "picture1.png" it'd be "picture1.13." And then they'll suddenly all disappear. I listened to music via apollo on my way to work. I get to work and hook up my phone to the computer with the intention of copying some songs for a co-worker, and the entire music folder is gone along with all my pictures.
I don't know if this is a CM10 error, a hardware issue with the SD card, or I'm missing some sort of setting. Any advice at all would be helpful.
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Have any luck with this? I've got a similar issue. It sees the sd card in storage and if I go into the gallery, the pics on it are grayed out, but if I try to use an app that needs storage, it says no sd card present.
I have a galaxy blaze, just found this post when searching for an answer.
Bump...same problems.
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Before owning the Note 2, I had the S3. The problem with the scared happens on both phones.
When I first got the Note, I removed the sdcard from the S3 and put it straight into the Note.
No media showed up. Formatted in phone, transferred media, all working as it should.
Today, add a video to card, doesn't show. Add a photo, doesn't show.
Format card, transfer media. Nothing shows up.
Am reluctant to buy another card as I tried three Cards in the S3, and the problem was present with all of them.
PS using root explorer I can find all the media, and play them in their respective apps.
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saldawop said:
Before owning the Note 2, I had the S3. The problem with the scared happens on both phones.
When I first got the Note, I removed the sdcard from the S3 and put it straight into the Note.
No media showed up. Formatted in phone, transferred media, all working as it should.
Today, add a video to card, doesn't show. Add a photo, doesn't show.
Format card, transfer media. Nothing shows up.
Am reluctant to buy another card as I tried three Cards in the S3, and the problem was present with all of them.
PS using root explorer I can find all the media, and play them in their respective apps.
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solution might be here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262
Thanks, for some reason that works for my videos, but not with photos and music!!!!
And that is more of a workaround than a solution. Ideally I would like for it to work as it should. Impossible for me to go back to stock as I will always need root to vieww my media(ok, I will probably always be rooted, but I want the option)
Edit: tried again and my music and photos are now showing (using Directory Bind)
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Ive had issues like this on my EVO. Try installing a "media scan" app from the market. It rescans all media content on the phone and then if you want you can remove the app after its done. I had 2 years worth of photos on my 16GB SD class 10 and no pictures or video thumbnails / pictures at all would show. Ran the app and fixed all the issues.
I did try a couple of those apps yesterday.I dont know if either one worked.I mean I know nothing showed up, but it was as though they never actually run.
Same issue
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I tried formatting several times and copied the data back, nothing helped. Also copying files from my comp to the sd card and internal storage in the phone is very slow. I bought the device yesterday, its stock unrooted.
I don't believe media (pictures/video) show up until mediascanner detects them and sticks in some internal database.
So just copying files onto your external card and popping it in isn't going to work.
media scanner is normally triggered during a reboot, and some apps can trigger it. (generally via 'rescan media' buttons).
Also make sure you don't have a .nomedia file there, as that causes media scanner to skip the directory.
( media scanner can really grind on directories with tons of files )
- Frank
ChodTheWacko said:
I don't believe media (pictures/video) show up until mediascanner detects them and sticks in some internal database.
So just copying files onto your external card and popping it in isn't going to work.
media scanner is normally triggered during a reboot, and some apps can trigger it. (generally via 'rescan media' buttons).
Also make sure you don't have a .nomedia file there, as that causes media scanner to skip the directory.
( media scanner can really grind on directories with tons of files )
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I tried a different memory card from my old Sensation and it read the files perfectly... can any of you help me with the copying speed.. it took me 35 mins to copy 1.20GB... just to be sure i i tried to copy the same date using the same data cable and the same usb port, onto my wildfire, and it copied it pretty fast. Any idea ?
HTCfreak! said:
I tried a different memory card from my old Sensation and it read the files perfectly... can any of you help me with the copying speed.. it took me 35 mins to copy 1.20GB... just to be sure i i tried to copy the same date using the same data cable and the same usb port, onto my wildfire, and it copied it pretty fast. Any idea ?
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It sounds like the Sensation card just has slower transfer rates. While your wildfire has faster transfer rates but you are experience issues on the phone side.
Just to confirm, you have formatted both cards the same way and one works and the other doesn't? If possible try to format the card from the phone. Have you tried a sandisk card?
Daniel
dachness said:
It sounds like the Sensation card just has slower transfer rates. While your wildfire has faster transfer rates but you are experience issues on the phone side.
Just to confirm, you have formatted both cards the same way and one works and the other doesn't? If possible try to format the card from the phone. Have you tried a sandisk card?
Daniel
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Both the cards are Sandisk 8gb cards, both formatted on the Note 2. I transferred data to card A when its in the wildfire, i formatted the card and put it in the note and formatted it again, and tried to copy the same data to card A, it takes more than 3times the amount of time... data transfer has been slow to the card while its in the note
I have read somewhere that there is a " .nomedia " folder somewhere. Delete that and see what happens.
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I have read somewhere that there is a " .nomedia " folder somewhere. Delete that and see what happens.
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Also on top of that, when you formatted the SDCard did you format in the PC or in your phone through recovery? You will want to format through recovery.
I would recommend upgrading to an ext partition and then formatting again (if you don't need the ext). I have found that even formatting the SDCard on some roms (because the way they work) it doesn't wipe everything and upgrading the to ext actually changes the file system of the SDCard rather than a quick format. Then only copy your media back to the card. Dont copy everything like .android, data, and stuff like that. Just what you want to keep.
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Both the cards are Sandisk 8gb cards, both formatted on the Note 2. I transferred data to card A when its in the wildfire, i formatted the card and put it in the note and formatted it again, and tried to copy the same data to card A, it takes more than 3times the amount of time... data transfer has been slow to the card while its in the note
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Is there any chance you have a counterfeit Sandisk card? Did you buy it from an authorized dealer? If buying from Amazon make sure you only purchase directly from amazon, LLC and not a third party vendor.
For reference which sandisk card do you have what class is it rated at?
Daniel
No the card is legit, i got it in the box when i bought the HTC Sensation and worked fine on the sensation. It has good copying speed if i put it in another device like my wildfire even now. I checked copying speeds yesterday using the same card in my wildfire and my new note, but it takes forever to copy data to the card while its in the Note. I have not rooted my Note yet. Its factory stock as of now.
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nm8 said:
I have read somewhere that there is a " .nomedia " folder somewhere. Delete that and see what happens.
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Tried that, and it worked. thanks.... But still having data transfer speed issues... i copied data to the internal memory and even that is slow... this problem is not limited to only my sd card, but also the internal memory
If your internal memory is slow I would consider that cause for concern. Perhaps try running benchmarks and comparing your results to those in the benchmark thread. It may be worth returning it for another phone if you can't find a solution soon.
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No the card is legit, i got it in the box when i bought the HTC Sensation and worked fine on the sensation. It has good copying speed if i put it in another device like my wildfire even now. I checked copying speeds yesterday using the same card in my wildfire and my new note, but it takes forever to copy data to the card while its in the Note. I have not rooted my Note yet. Its factory stock as of now.
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Tried that, and it worked. thanks.... But still having data transfer speed issues... i copied data to the internal memory and even that is slow... this problem is not limited to only my sd card, but also the internal memory
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you might have to reinstall your rom
Isn't the speed difference just to do with the way the Note 2 connects to the pc? I.E MTP as opposed to mass storage? I seem to recall my G.F's original Note is dog slow at data transfer in MTP but much faster in USB mode....shame the Note 2 can't do this, it's one of my reservations about buying it.
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Isn't the speed difference just to do with the way the Note 2 connects to the pc? I.E MTP as opposed to mass storage? I seem to recall my G.F's original Note is dog slow at data transfer in MTP but much faster in USB mode....shame the Note 2 can't do this, it's one of my reservations about buying it.
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Now it makes sense to me, thanks :good:
Is there any way to connect in USB mode rather than MTP??
Can I ask if anyone else suffers from the same problem as raised in the OP?
I would imagine its not "the norm" and yet I have had the same issue on both the S3 and Note 2.
Whilst, it is now working, I am having to use Directory Bind, for it to do so.
I put in a new 64GB card on Saturday, recognised straight away in Settings/Storage, formatted fine in the phone giving me 59+GB of free space.
Put media on it...nothing shows.
I cant ever see my phone not being rooted so it can be worked around,but it just seems strange that I have had this on both phones and yet nobody else seems to suffer from it.
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Now it makes sense to me, thanks :good:
Is there any way to connect in USB mode rather than MTP??
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For whatever reason I don't think Samsung enabled USB mass storage mode on either the S3 or the Note 2. It's the one thing that's holding me back from buying one at the moment because I use iTunes Agent to sync with iTunes, and that requires the device to be in mass storage mode when connected to the pc (or you can take the sd card out and put it in a reader, but I don't like to take the back off too many times as most phones end up getting really creaky). It's a real shame because I'm just itching to get one.
Have a look in the GS3 forum - I think there's a thread where someone has created an app that enables you to toggle USB mass storage mode, but I think you might have to be rooted and have a custom kernel. Don't quote me, that's from memory
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saldawop said:
Can I ask if anyone else suffers from the same problem as raised in the OP?
I would imagine its not "the norm" and yet I have had the same issue on both the S3 and Note 2.
Whilst, it is now working, I am having to use Directory Bind, for it to do so.
I put in a new 64GB card on Saturday, recognised straight away in Settings/Storage, formatted fine in the phone giving me 59+GB of free space.
Put media on it...nothing shows.
I cant ever see my phone not being rooted so it can be worked around,but it just seems strange that I have had this on both phones and yet nobody else seems to suffer from it.
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There are a couple of threads about this I think now. I browsed some last night. Sorry, I'm only on my phone at the moment so it's a bit awkward to try and find a link for you (what with having a Sensation with only a 4.3" screen They'll be on the first page or two I think.
My girlfriend's original Note had a similar problem with photos and media after connecting an external hard drive. Going into settings/apps and clearing data on the media storage app followed by a reboot sorted the problem for her.
My SD randomly stopped being read, and I only discovered it when my music wouldn't play. The menu still shows it connected, and shows its estimated storage size/usage, but no file reader can read or access the card. I took it out and put it in my PC to format it, but my PC read it perfectly, and every file was there and accounted for. What could cause this? I'm not sure where to go from here.
When mounted does it permanently show a notification that it is mounted. If so, is their a way to turn that off?
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When mounted does it permanently show a notification that it is mounted. If so, is their a way to turn that off
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i have the same issue...sometimes photos get deleted too...what seems to be the issue?
Hi
I've got a MZP with a 128gb SD card and I notice that the SD card is full of folders with nothing in them but it's a pain in the neck trying to browse to a specific folder.
I'm.not sure what's creating these folders and battery life has virtually halved since this started happening.
Any ideas?
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Hi
I've got a MZP with a 128gb SD card and I notice that the SD card is full of folders with nothing in them but it's a pain in the neck trying to browse to a specific folder.
I'm.not sure what's creating these folders and battery life has virtually halved since this started happening.
Any ideas?
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Turn on show processes at the bottom of dev options.
Gotta be a bad app or a seemingly good one with a trojan.
Nothing stands out so far. No dodgy apps from other sources and also have BitDefender running storage scans.
Not sure if this is related, but this has happened twice in the last month, but when I restart my phone I get a "Decryption Failed" message. Removing the SD Card and restarting again gets the phone back to normal and then I just manually insert the SD card and mount it.
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Nothing stands out so far. No dodgy apps from other sources and also have BitDefender running storage scans.
Not sure if this is related, but this has happened twice in the last month, but when I restart my phone I get a "Decryption Failed" message. Removing the SD Card and restarting again gets the phone back to normal and then I just manually insert the SD card and mount it.
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I think it is. Your phone is encrypted? Never did that.
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I think it is. Your phone is encrypted? Never did that.
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Yes. I think it turns on Encryption by default if you set a PIN or password and there is no way to turn it off - at least nothing obvious that I can see.
What I don't get is that usage seems to be high for Android System - this was never the case previously. The list of included packages does not have any 3rd party apps or anything but then again I'm not really sure what I should be looking for.
Battery at 62% right now with 9 hours of projected usage - this is way lower than what im used to with this phone.
Couldn't attach screenshots in the last post. Sorry.
Probably a HW failure or memory.
Warranty time
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Probably a HW failure or memory.
Warranty time
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So between the last post and today, I got the Nougat update and things have been much more stable since the update.
I don't seem to have any new folders being created and battery life is pretty much close to good with around 6.5 - 7 hours SOT.
I also haven't had any crazy shutdowns so I guess its all good.