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So, for the past month and a half, I've been having some serious overheating issues with my E4GT, whether I have it rooted and a custom ROM flashed, or running stock. It has now gotten to the point where the phone smells..funky, near the camera on the back. Now, Sprint labels the battery as the culprit...twice now, they just give me a new battery saying the old was swollen, and that it is what was causing it to overheat. Completely ignoring that I state it smells like fried parts. Now, the batteries were all normal in appearance, mind you, not a bit swollen. No water damage either. It gets almost too hot to touch the screen at times, not dangerously, but uncomfortable. I only use the USB cable and wall adapter it came with, as well. ..Yet, battery life actually isn't terrible, go figure. This overheating happens whether I am using the crap out of my phone, or just leaving it sit idle.
Any ideas what to do from here? It makes it almost too hot to touch the screen at times, not dangerously, but uncomfortable, especially if it happens when I make a call. I only use the USB cable and wall adapter it came with, as well. I've made a habit of unplugging it when it says it's at a 100% charge, too.
I'm sick of Sprint shoving me aside every time I go there, which is three times now. So, if there are any ideas as to how I can get them to just replace the damn thing without spending 100 through insurance..lay it on me. I've searched the forums for a solution to this particular issue, no avail. Hell, if it takes purposely bricking for them to pay attention, then I'll do it, but that's on the back burner. Far far back.
I have tried all sorts of things to keep it running smoothly, I guess my main question is how to get Sprint to just replace the dang thing.
Apologies for the novel, guys and gals.
**...somehow the title ended up being just one word. Not sure how it got deleted. I blame cats. "Major overheating issue, getting the good ol' Sprint run-around.." <--should have been that.
Go to a different sprint store....they're being dicks, never had that issue at any sprint store in my area. You have a fault phone and it needs to be replaced.
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I have been to two, but perhaps third one's the charm?
maruutah said:
So, for the past month and a half, I've been having some serious overheating issues with my E4GT, whether I have it rooted and a custom ROM flashed, or running stock. It has now gotten to the point where the phone smells..funky, near the camera on the back. Now, Sprint labels the battery as the culprit...twice now, they just give me a new battery saying the old was swollen, and that it is what was causing it to overheat. Completely ignoring that I state it smells like fried parts. Now, the batteries were all normal in appearance, mind you, not a bit swollen. No water damage either. It gets almost too hot to touch the screen at times, not dangerously, but uncomfortable. I only use the USB cable and wall adapter it came with, as well. ..Yet, battery life actually isn't terrible, go figure. This overheating happens whether I am using the crap out of my phone, or just leaving it sit idle.
Any ideas what to do from here? It makes it almost too hot to touch the screen at times, not dangerously, but uncomfortable, especially if it happens when I make a call. I only use the USB cable and wall adapter it came with, as well. I've made a habit of unplugging it when it says it's at a 100% charge, too.
I'm sick of Sprint shoving me aside every time I go there, which is three times now. So, if there are any ideas as to how I can get them to just replace the damn thing without spending 100 through insurance..lay it on me. I've searched the forums for a solution to this particular issue, no avail. Hell, if it takes purposely bricking for them to pay attention, then I'll do it, but that's on the back burner. Far far back.
Apologies for the novel, guys and gals.
**...somehow the title ended up being just one word. Not sure how it got deleted. I blame cats. "Major overheating issue, getting the good ol' Sprint run-around.." <--should have been that.
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I had the same problem and so did my woman. Do yourself a favor and download Calkulins battery saver E4GT ROM. I don't know how but it keeps the phone cooler. Seriously. Haven't had any over heating issues since. EL29 stock kernel always causes mine to heat up. Hope this helps
I've used that as well, but the thing still smells pretty bad whenever I use..well..anything. :/ I have tried all sorts of things to keep it running smoothly, I guess my main question is how to get Sprint to just replace the dang thing. I should add that to the initial post...
maruutah said:
I've used that as well, but the thing still smells pretty bad whenever I use..well..anything. :/ I have tried all sorts of things to keep it running smoothly, I guess my main question is how to get Sprint to just replace the dang thing. I should add that to the initial post...
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Do you have insurance? You could always just brick it to the point where all ya get is the blue led of death and bring it in and tell them the thing just suddenly went off on ya and when you tried to turn it on this is what happened.
Do NOT try to damage it using water because they have these stickers inside the phone and on the battery that change colors when they come in contact with water so sprint will know, and laugh in your face.
my phone also gets very hot like in 120 range
You could send it to Samsung under warranty, and when u go to sprint make sure its a corporate service center and not a 3rd party "authorized service center". When you go in don't mention overheating at first start off with "my phone smells funny, like burning plastic and when I pick it up I notice the screen is very warm/hot to the touch and sometimes has issues with the touch responsiveness" this should get their attention away from the battery and more towards the internal issues, more than likely its the SOC that is overheating if it's hottest near the camera area of the phone
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ive been having a problem with this phone for a while. it has a problem with turning on and statying on. i will set it on charge while its powered off for atleast two hours, but as soon as i turn it on it will last for about 5 mins and turn off.
i first replaced the battery and it has the same problem. so i replaced the charging port and it was working fine for a few weeks and now its back to the same issue. i cant even get it to charge now
so just trying to figure out what kind of other components it could be
Disclaimer: You're at a more advanced level than I am. I've never done phone repair, and I don't know enough about phone hardware to say if there are other components that could be responsible. I'm a software guy.
That being said, I'll chime in with what I do know, on the off chance that it's actually helpful.
When computers get too hot, they do an automatic thermal shutdown to try to prevent permanent damage. I assume smartphones do this as well. You're on XDA, so there's a good chance you like to tinker. Did you overclock the phone? Overclocking generates more heat, which could potentially lead to a thermal shutdown or permanent damage. Or you might be using or storing the phone in a hot environment.
Have you tried using a different charging cable? Maybe the cable or its connector went bad. You could also test the cable with a different device. Maybe the wall outlet, etc went bad. Did you check the connectors that the battery attaches to, to make sure they're clean?
When you opened the phone to replace the charging port, maybe you didn't put it together quite right, so over time something came loose or got pinched. Desktops and laptops use various types of adhesives such as thermal paste, and computer technicians have to remember to reapply new adhesive when putting a machine back together. Maybe phones use some adhesive too, and maybe you forgot to reapply it?
Hopefully someone more knowledgeable about phone hardware will chime in, but the Incredible 2 section of these forums has been a ghost town lately. That's why I'm giving my two cents. If it were me, I'd just buy a new phone.
Slinkwyde said:
Disclaimer: You're at a more advanced level than I am. I've never done phone repair, and I don't know enough about phone hardware to say if there are other components that could be responsible. I'm a software guy.
That being said, I'll chime in with what I do know, on the off chance that it's actually helpful.
When computers get too hot, they do an automatic thermal shutdown to try to prevent permanent damage. I assume smartphones do this as well. You're on XDA, so there's a good chance you like to tinker. Did you overclock the phone? Overclocking generates more heat, which could potentially lead to a thermal shutdown or permanent damage. Or you might be using or storing the phone in a hot environment.
Have you tried using a different charging cable? Maybe the cable or its connector went bad. You could also test the cable with a different device. Maybe the wall outlet, etc went bad. Did you check the connectors that the battery attaches to, to make sure they're clean?
When you opened the phone to replace the charging port, maybe you didn't put it together quite right, so over time something came loose or got pinched. Desktops and laptops use various types of adhesives such as thermal paste, and computer technicians have to remember to reapply new adhesive when putting a machine back together. Maybe phones use some adhesive too, and maybe you forgot to reapply it?
Hopefully someone more knowledgeable about phone hardware will chime in, but the Incredible 2 section of these forums has been a ghost town lately. That's why I'm giving my two cents. If it were me, I'd just buy a new phone.
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well i greatly appreciate your lengthly response. to be honest, it is my mothers phone, which is why i want to try and fix it. i gave her an iphone so she really doesnt need this phone but i would like to figure out what is wrong because i do like to tinker with things. i have tried different chords, wall outlets, usb ports on the pc etc. i will reopen the phone to see if everything is back together, because thats the only thing i can think of from what you mentioned.
thanks again. if anyone has had a similar problem, let me know
sounds like you're either having a battery issue or need to replace your charge port on your phone. its a really simple process all you do is order the port from like amazon or ebay and the old one on your phone just unplugs from your phone circuit board there actually is a tutorial forum in the development page for the droid incredible 2 that gives you instructions on how to do this. hope this was of some help to you and if so please click thanks.
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sounds like you're either having a battery issue or need to replace your charge port on your phone. its a really simple process all you do is order the port from like amazon or ebay and the old one on your phone just unplugs from your phone circuit board there actually is a tutorial forum in the development page for the droid incredible 2 that gives you instructions on how to do this. hope this was of some help to you and if so please click thanks.
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The OP already tried both of those things.
Oh ok yeah i just noticed where he put that. Hardware problem maybe. Im more into software myself than i am hardware.
MINE TOO! Omg
This... it's too much. Okay, a month ago the damned power button got too hard to press in, which should have been a warning that the hardware was getting faulty I suppose. But I downloaded an app that let me use the volume button to turn screen on/off. (I won't say which because I half-blame it, unfairly, for killing my phone
(Sorry, I'm still —mourning! the death of my phone I guess.)
The app was an ugly solution, I guess, but it worked. (I couldn't turn the screen off easily, so I set the screen-off to 10 seconds.) And I hadn't used screenshots in a while so that was no big deal; and my ROM could get me to Recovery easily enough, so screw the power button, right?
But then last night, my phone STOPPED CHARGING! I did a batt pull, tried new cords; turned off every useful app. I even went back to stock ROM, which (even though plugged in) left me with 20% batt. Might as well have bricked it, I guess.
Nothing worked. I was able to turn bluetooth back on so I could use my Air Droid acct to get my on-phone pictures, at least (everything else is safe on the SD), and then I charged it overnight in the wall and hoped for the best.
I was pretty thrilled to wake up to 100% charged! —For a few minutes. As soon as I unplugged it, it started discharging fast, and then not even the wall charger stopped it from discharging.
After brooding, for a few hours, I called Verizon tech. The tech (VERY nice, admittedly) said my Dinc2 was just dead. (Damn they're good: he was more sympathetic than a doctor delivering bad news!!) —But I feel so lost. He offered me a DNA or a Dinc 4G (and some motos and crap), but said my Dinc2 wouldn't be worth fixing. He said the power button alone was a PITA, but the dongle thing you plug the charger into was likely the problem, AND it might be the battery. Maybe he said other problems, but ultimately he suggested some pre-owneds he had for sale (I'm trying to keep my unlimited data plan), or try PhoneKarma.com. (He said he didn't recommend eBay, where they have Dinc 2s, but I'm not sure why.)
So ...do Dinc2s just have power issues after (?) 3 years? I guess that's a pretty good lifetime, but boy is it depressing. (I know — hooked on a damned phone. #Sucks.) I mean, it would be stupid to fix this one, or buy another one, right?
@Trebuchette, no matter what machine you use, rechargeable batteries do not last forever. Order a new battery from Amazon or eBay and you should be fine. They're pretty cheap and easy to replace. http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Incredible-6350-BTR6350B-Packaging/dp/B0064SI3QA
A case might make your power button easier to press. The OtterBox Defender is an excellent case that you can get for $15 used (very good condition), if a new battery successfully fixes your problem.
Hey: might be worth a shot! I did try another batt, but it was older too. And I didn't think of an otterbox at all, tbh. Thanks! Might be worth a try!
Hey: does it matter much if my USB cable is LG or whatever? I tried several different USBs too, but I'd been using this LG one (no idea how!) for probably about a year.
No, the brand of micro USB cable should not matter. It's a technical standard.
Don't buy a case until you've verified that a new battery actually fixes your problem. If a battery doesn't fix it, it's only a few bucks lost. In that case, I would then get a new phone.
i just came back to this thread after i basically put the project on hold for a while and wanted to see any new suggestions. so after leaving the phone alone for two months, i pluuged the phone in and i saw that orange ligh indicating it was charging. so far so good, im not using it as a primary phone which is good, but that would be my suggestion is to give the phone a rest for a while
EDIT: yeah scratch that, its doing the same **** now
No one ever seems to respond much about hardware issues on the note 2 forum but I'm going to give it another go. Started out a few weeks ago with major battery issues resulting from what I think caused it, was an overheating issue. (fell asleep laying on it charging and screen lit for about 6 hours) The phone started by shutting off when the levels were anywhere from 20-50%. Since then I've tried 3 new OEM batteries and swapped to a different working charge port flex. I jumped from cymod to the skynote rom before swapping out hardware parts and it seemed to make a difference at first but didn't last long. Since going to skynote, I've tried running with greenify, juice defender and no power saving at all. Tried normal performance and tweaked performance. The other night I had my phone off and charging and it reached 100% on the power down indicator, when booting the phone up, the status bar battery indicator said 81%. The next night my phone actually stayed on, or atleast displayed what I felt was the proper percentage, down to 1%. When the indicator went from 2% to 1% I received a notification to unplug my charger, that my battery was full...the charger was not plugged in when receiving this and as soon as I finished reading the notification, the phone shut off again. I am at a loss because I have no idea what's causing this. I own an electronic repair shop and have no problems soldering new charge ports on if needed but I'm starting to think there is another controller on the daughter board which may control the communication between battery and phone. Any ideas?? Anyone....hello
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omenbass said:
No one ever seems to respond much about hardware issues on the note 2 forum but I'm going to give it another go. Started out a few weeks ago with major battery issues resulting from what I think caused it, was an overheating issue. (fell asleep laying on it charging and screen lit for about 6 hours) The phone started by shutting off when the levels were anywhere from 20-50%. Since then I've tried 3 new OEM batteries and swapped to a different working charge port flex. I jumped from cymod to the skynote rom before swapping out hardware parts and it seemed to make a difference at first but didn't last long. Since going to skynote, I've tried running with greenify, juice defender and no power saving at all. Tried normal performance and tweaked performance. The other night I had my phone off and charging and it reached 100% on the power down indicator, when booting the phone up, the status bar battery indicator said 81%. The next night my phone actually stayed on, or atleast displayed what I felt was the proper percentage, down to 1%. When the indicator went from 2% to 1% I received a notification to unplug my charger, that my battery was full...the charger was not plugged in when receiving this and as soon as I finished reading the notification, the phone shut off again. I am at a loss because I have no idea what's causing this. I own an electronic repair shop and have no problems soldering new charge ports on if needed but I'm starting to think there is another controller on the daughter board which may control the communication between battery and phone. Any ideas?? Anyone....hello
Pissed off in PA
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Dear Pissed off in PA,
Every post you've made has had help and/or follow-up questions asked to help you. So that disqualifies your "no one seems to answer hardware questions" statement. Additionally, instead of acting like you are entitled to free tech support, try asking questions without sounding like a self-entitled person.
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Everyone
P.S. Guys like Steele, eZ, Zen Arcade, Bajan, greg and others help people all the time.
omenbass said:
No one ever seems to respond much about hardware issues on the note 2 forum but I'm going to give it another go. Started out a few weeks ago with major battery issues resulting from what I think caused it, was an overheating issue. (fell asleep laying on it charging and screen lit for about 6 hours) The phone started by shutting off when the levels were anywhere from 20-50%. Since then I've tried 3 new OEM batteries and swapped to a different working charge port flex. I jumped from cymod to the skynote rom before swapping out hardware parts and it seemed to make a difference at first but didn't last long. Since going to skynote, I've tried running with greenify, juice defender and no power saving at all. Tried normal performance and tweaked performance. The other night I had my phone off and charging and it reached 100% on the power down indicator, when booting the phone up, the status bar battery indicator said 81%. The next night my phone actually stayed on, or atleast displayed what I felt was the proper percentage, down to 1%. When the indicator went from 2% to 1% I received a notification to unplug my charger, that my battery was full...the charger was not plugged in when receiving this and as soon as I finished reading the notification, the phone shut off again. I am at a loss because I have no idea what's causing this. I own an electronic repair shop and have no problems soldering new charge ports on if needed but I'm starting to think there is another controller on the daughter board which may control the communication between battery and phone. Any ideas?? Anyone....hello
Pissed off in PA
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#1. You title of your question isn't cool, I don't care if your pissed off. Remember there's kids that come here for info and to learn!! No one here caused your PROBLEMS... self inflicted wounds...
#2. If someone didn't answer your question probably means we didn't see it or just been busy and it got over looked!
#3. We try to help each and everyone with a problem...
#4. Now to you problem:
First off yes it's VERY BAD to smother any device (6 hours ouch) that's constantly running. Especially with a battey power, being if the device isn't breathing it's gonna over heat. It's kinda like blocking the radiator on your car while your racing down the highway. What do you think it going to HAPPEN problems!!
You mentioned a few battery monitoring apps! [emoji107][emoji107][emoji107]
Get away from those apps cuz most of the time they're wrong or reading the battery level wrong! I'd recommend BBS go here»»» http://goo.gl/0TeXcR
But from your post seems something in the phone, might be something minor got over heated to much which is causing your problems.
Just my 3¢ short of a nickel...
Bajan out...
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You need to recalibrate your battery. You can figure out how thats done. And you probably cooked your silicon.
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Dear Pissed off in PA,
Every post you've made has had help and/or follow-up questions asked to help you. So that disqualifies your "no one seems to answer hardware questions" statement. Additionally, instead of acting like you are entitled to free tech support, try asking questions without sounding like a self-entitled person.
Signed,
Everyone
P.S. Guys like Steele, eZ, Zen Arcade, Bajan, greg and others help people all the time.
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The only one that ever offered anything that wasn't a typical response to someone who knows nothing about gadgets, was steele. As many times as the posts were viewed and only getting one response, which most of the time was an unrelated answer, is pretty sad. When noobs have questions about flashing a rom, there are always 30 people there ready to tell them or berate them, when there are countless forums out there to find their own answer. And no, only two posts had answered my hardware questions and the replies were not any kind of a valid response. I apologize for assuming anyone here had experience with internal components. How about instead of responding like a troll, you change my mind and actually teach me something if you're so qualified to give tech support.
Bajanman said:
#1. You title of your question isn't cool, I don't care if your pissed off. Remember there's kids that come here for info and to learn!! No one here caused your PROBLEMS... self inflicted wounds...
#2. If someone didn't answer your question probably means we didn't see it or just been busy and it got over looked!
#3. We try to help each and everyone with a problem...
#4. Now to you problem:
First off yes it's VERY BAD to smother any device (6 hours ouch) that's constantly running. Especially with a battey power, being if the device isn't breathing it's gonna over heat. It's kinda like blocking the radiator on your car while your racing down the highway. What do you think it going to HAPPEN problems!!
You mentioned a few battery monitoring apps! [emoji107][emoji107][emoji107]
Get away from those apps cuz most of the time they're wrong or reading the battery level wrong! I'd recommend BBS go here»»» http://goo.gl/0TeXcR
But from your post seems something in the phone, might be something minor got over heated to much which is causing your problems.
Just my 3¢ short of a nickel...
Bajan out...
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Thanks for your input, but I'm looking for the contoller that would have been damaged. Do you know of a motherboard breakdown link, where I could find out which ics controls charging/battery/phone communication or shutoff. I've soldered new contollers in iphones before and I'm assuming there has to be a similar part which controls current shutoff in the galaxy line. Thanks again.
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You need to recalibrate your battery. You can figure out how thats done. And you probably cooked your silicon.
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Thanks. I've done the calibration a couple times with new batteries and flashed quite a few roms on and off. I'm pretty sure something is cooked, but most of the time, if the ics can be identified it can be replaced with a new one. I'm looking for a motherboard breakdown of all soldered parts and a legend to go with it. ifixit is where I usually go, but can't seem to find the exact breakdown of what part controls current flow and shutoff.
Xda is mostly about tweaking the phone software and very seldom about the hardware, and rarely about the ic components. Sorry that your question is several paygrades above my skillset.
I have replaced the mainboard for about $80. But of course you already thought about that.
I think that sort of info would be proprietary info, that Samsung would not publish out to just anyone. Unless that specific piece was patented.
I can see them not giving a damn about older models of phones whose technology they would not reuse. But Galaxy stuff in production, I would imagine they would go after someone's scalp that had it.
For info like that I usually grab whatever numbers I see on the board, throw them in every search engine I can think and hope something pops up.
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I think that sort of info would be proprietary info, that Samsung would not publish out to just anyone. Unless that specific piece was patented.
I can see them not giving a damn about older models of phones whose technology they would not reuse. But Galaxy stuff in production, I would imagine they would go after someone's scalp that had it.
For info like that I usually grab whatever numbers I see on the board, throw them in every search engine I can think and hope something pops up.
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You probably hit the nail on the head with that. It's just so frustrating when I know it can be fixed if I could just figure out which part got fried. Usually soldering a new charge port fixes a lot of hardware glitches when it comes to connectivity or charging/decharging, but of course on this phone it's not happening. Thanks steele
omenbass said:
You probably hit the nail on the head with that. It's just so frustrating when I know it can be fixed if I could just figure out which part got fried. Usually soldering a new charge port fixes a lot of hardware glitches when it comes to connectivity or charging/decharging, but of course on this phone it's not happening. Thanks steele
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No worries. You could try the dudes at mobiletechvideo.
http://mobiletechvideos.mybigcommerce.com/samsung-galaxy-note-2/
They have a little Contact Us applet that pops up on the bottom of the screen. Hopefully you get lucky and they reply back to your question.
It's a long shot since it's their business to do the work for you.
I haven't used them but they recently just saved an xda member with a torched IMEI. Remotely.... That's killing me, I have to know how they did that..
Props to the boys at mobiletechvideos....
If you want microsurgery on a phone. ..they are the ones. ..g
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I can send you the old mainboard to use for donor parts once you locate the correct component. PM me your address.
Thanks for the info guys. I will definitely check them out and Ranger I'll definitely take you up on that. I apologize for being a jerk with my post. My phone was driving me nuts, ( I have a hard time dealing with not being able to troubleshoot electronics), and I thought that might be a way to get someone to help me out when I was in dire need.
Very generous Ranger....as always...thank you...
Great people here omen...and you just found one of the best...
They don't call him Captain for nothing....g
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A while back i used to "try" to root stuff. I sucked at it BAD. Anyway, I have a Galaxy Note 8.0 (GT-N5110) that I had rooted to a certain point (very superficial) and I just kept it the way it was, that way I could use Multi-window for any app. This morning I unplug my tab from the charger only to be disappointed that it will not turn on. Ive tried different power outlets, different cables, different base chargers, even the whole "power+vol_up+home" thing... nothing. I never updated the tab when Kitkat came through the pipeline. Im freaking out that a new major update automatically happened overnight or something. Im sorry to trouble you all, but does anyone have suggestions? Since it's rooted I can't take it to Samsung or Best Buy. Honestly if I could just get it back to stock, that would be awesome, but im more concerned about getting it to simply turn on. Any Ideas?
If your device is rooted you won't get an OTA update so that could not be the problem. You can try to unplug battery (mus open the device)"and see what happened. Maybe your battery is faulty or someting else.
K... I appreciate it Ill take a look. But, lets say I actually open it (without making things worse), how do I determine if the battery is in fact faulty? If it is, can I get a replacement? preferably an official samsung one.
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Scratch that. Sry, Im just always scared of doin stuff, so I always feel like I have to ask the question, but I'll look it up. Im confident at least this should be easy enough for me to do Thank you again.
The problem with this device is you cannot pull out the battery easily. Maybe after that steps it boots up again.
Battery removal wasn't bad... now I'm just waiting for a new one (ordered on ebay, crossing fingers hoping it was legit). What did you mean "after that steps it boots up agin."? Will the tablet boot up without the battery if it's plugged in or something?
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Battery removal wasn't bad... now I'm just waiting for a new one (ordered on ebay, crossing fingers hoping it was legit). What did you mean "after that steps it boots up agin."? Will the tablet boot up without the battery if it's plugged in or something?
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Wow, that suck. sorry for you man. For now, try to plug the tablet to a computer and while device manager opened and see if there is change. If the change say "qhsusb" or something along that line and not your model number . . . changing battery wont do anything because it's already hard bricked. if not, finger cross.
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What did you mean "after that steps it boots up agin."? Will the tablet boot up without the battery if it's plugged in or something?
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No. But sometimes after this step and reconnecting the battery the device boots up. Also a battery calibration is done.
I tried plugging in the tablet to the computer with the old battery and then without any battery. Neither one prompted anything in the device manager. Today I got the new battery (assuming its legit and in good condition) in the mail. I plugged it in, and nothing. Plugged the tablet with the new battery to the wall charger, nothing. Plugged the tablet with the new battery to the computer while running device manager, nothing.
I'm going assume that the new battery is dead and let it stay connected to the wall charger for 8+ hrs, and see if there are any changes.
I just really don't understand what the deal is and why this would randomly happen. Ive never had problems with the firmware or anything. I have felt like there was an issue with the battery being that it doesn't seem to be keeping much of a charge... but for it to just Hard Brick like this seems so out of the blue. Can anyone provide me with additional suggestions please?
Maybe I'll ask it this way...
Is there any way to test if the batteries are food? That way I can at least determine if the tablet is in fact hard bricked or just bad batteries.
Might not be what you want to hear, but if different cables, chargers and batteries don't work, then maybe there was a power surge overnight while the device was plugged into the wall that took out the device (I once lost a computer that way and now I only use surge suppressors (note that not all power bars are proper surge protectors! See here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surge_protector ) that are UL 1449 certified with a low clamping voltage and high energy absorption rating as a minimum; the fancier ones can even tell you if your wall outlet has a grounding problem). Or your tablet's USB port is broken, but that doesn't make sense based on what you've said thus far. Or you're just super-unlucky and all of your replacement parts are also faulty (it could happen). Either way, I've got my fingers crossed for you!
In the meantime, a multimeter would be able to tell if the batteries hold a charge, and whether or not power flows to the device when the battery is attached or the device is plugged into the wall or computer.
Just make sure you read up on how to use one first so you don't accidentally electrocute yourself:
https://learn.sparkfun.com/tutorials/how-to-use-a-multimeter
rtiangha said:
In the meantime, a multimeter would be able to tell if the batteries hold a charge, and whether or not power flows to the device when the battery is attached or the device is plugged into the wall or computer.
Just make sure you read up on how to use one first so you don't accidentally electrocute yourself:
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Ill definitely be looking into this option in depth tomorrow, and deeply appreciate it. At least it's something. T_T I don't want my tablet going to electro grave. This sucks so bad. This has been a month from hell
First my printer decides its time to start printing crooked over a couple of months, getting so bad that it jams up a few weeks ago, requiring me to get a new printer, which has been a fiasco in and of itself that still hasnt been resolved. Ive gone through 4 printers in one week, all of them different model printers, all from HP, and each and every one of them defective.
Then my laptops video card tweaks out because of installing Splashtop Stream, which starts a domino effect requiring me to do a factory reset on the laptop.
Then my Tablet just decides to kill over.
Then my Microsoft Arc mouse decides it doesn't the want to wheel to work requiring me to purchase a new one, and when I receive it, the cover for the battery compartment is missing and the wheel click is defective. It took 2 and a half weeks to resolve
Then I get bronchitis.
all in less than a month.
Alright, ya... it's dead. Oh well. Here's me trying to make the most of it: are there any places that buy bricked tabs? I figure the parts have to have some sort of salvage value.... maybe.
You can't go to a Samsung service shop? They might not fix it under warranty, but I assume they'll have a look at it and give you an estimation? I feel for you, we all have had these awful weeks... I soft bricked my pad, my computer started to play up, my other computer decided it wanted to die after years of hard work and not skipping a beat, my son got the flu, the missus was on her monthly(grumpy wife..take cover), and when I took a break from it all on the toilet I found that we had run out of paper! To make matters worse, my favorite football team lost from a second division team.. This all happened in one single day! So chin up, it might take a week, but when all it's fixed again you'll experience deep appreciation for the things you have taken for granted.... (xda fixed my tablet, time fixed my wife)
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Sry for delayed response.
Im very very doubtful that Samsung will help. I have two more... ideas, before I go to Samsung. Non-invasive of coarse, wouldn't want to make matters worse.
K, So first off I took the tablet with extra battery to a tech place in the area that said the batteries are fine, but when they put a multimeter to the motherboard nothing came back. Basically its dead according to them. There's one more shop in the area I want to get a second opinion from. Next, does anyone know anything about an app called "Splashtop Stream"? I'm a fond user of Splashtop to control/view my computer straight my tablet, but when I installed "Splashtop Stream" to use the tablet as an extended screen (not just a cloned second screen), my tablet and both computers I tried it with did NOT like it. I immediately uninstalled it, but it dawned on me that it was just a matter of days later that my Tablet died. I hate to grasp at straws, but if an app like that is too resource intensive, I'm okay with seeing a connection that it fried my tablet. I can't just ask Splashtop "Hey, does your app fry motherboards", so I need a way of researching legitimate known problems. I can't afford a $400 tablet right now.
The reason why I'm using Samsung as a last resort is because it's outside my warranty time, and the moment they know that I did even the simple fast-mod on it, they'll slap it down and won't help. There no custom boot or Roms on it.
With all this said, any suggestions anyone?
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You can't go to a Samsung service shop? They might not fix it under warranty, but I assume they'll have a look at it and give you an estimation? I feel for you, we all have had these awful weeks... I soft bricked my pad, my computer started to play up, my other computer decided it wanted to die after years of hard work and not skipping a beat, my son got the flu, the missus was on her monthly(grumpy wife..take cover), and when I took a break from it all on the toilet I found that we had run out of paper! To make matters worse, my favorite football team lost from a second division team.. This all happened in one single day! So chin up, it might take a week, but when all it's fixed again you'll experience deep appreciation for the things you have taken for granted.... (xda fixed my tablet, time fixed my wife)
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O_O That does suck!! Sry man.
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Sry for delayed response.
Im very very doubtful that Samsung will help. I have two more... ideas, before I go to Samsung. Non-invasive of coarse, wouldn't want to make matters worse.
K, So first off I took the tablet with extra battery to a tech place in the area that said the batteries are fine, but when they put a multimeter to the motherboard nothing came back. Basically its dead according to them. There's one more shop in the area I want to get a second opinion from. Next, does anyone know anything about an app called "Splashtop Stream"? I'm a fond user of Splashtop to control/view my computer straight my tablet, but when I installed "Splashtop Stream" to use the tablet as an extended screen (not just a cloned second screen), my tablet and both computers I tried it with did NOT like it. I immediately uninstalled it, but it dawned on me that it was just a matter of days later that my Tablet died. I hate to grasp at straws, but if an app like that is too resource intensive, I'm okay with seeing a connection that it fried my tablet. I can't just ask Splashtop "Hey, does your app fry motherboards", so I need a way of researching legitimate known problems. I can't afford a $400 tablet right now.
The reason why I'm using Samsung as a last resort is because it's outside my warranty time, and the moment they know that I did even the simple fast-mod on it, they'll slap it down and won't help. There no custom boot or Roms on it.
With all this said, any suggestions anyone?
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I randomly bumped here and I'm no expert, but if your tablet's motherboard is indeed dead, I believe there is absolutely no way they can tell that the device got rooted at some point. You did not "hard brick" it, that's a whole other thing, or at least so I've learned in my not-very-long experience. "Hard brick" should be the result of flashing a kernel made some other device, which definitely is not your case. Moreover, that does not kill the motherboard, it just makes anything unbootable: it's a software problem, so it can actually be detected. You had a hardware failure that most likely completely wiped any proof that you have ever modified your device, so the only problem that you might have, I think, is them telling you that they take no responsibility for what your power outlet has done to the device, but they shouldn't be able to detect any modification that you have made. In my opinion technical support is worth trying.
Awesome!! Thank you so much!
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Awesome!! Thank you so much!
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You're welcome, good luck!
Just thought Id let everyone know that I managed to get Samsung to compromise on the matter since the Tablet is only 5 months past warranty (1yr 5mnths since purchase). So, not much longer and hopefully Ill have a tablet that works yet again.
I'm back again XDA. Even more G3 problems!
So since the last time I posted, I've replaced the board on my G3. Everything was great up until the SIM reader quit out. Switched to an HTC One M9 and boy is it terrible. So I use the G3 for music, games, etc. Didn't bother rooting or anything. Running VS9854BA. It's always on Airplane mode with WiFi enabled, I try not to let it overheat since the WiFi went to **** on my last board. And what do ya know, as I was typing up a comment on Facebook the thing just freezes up, makes some ****ed up screeching noise, and tries to restart. I get boot looped and notice a red and blue led. So I pull the battery, hold down the power for a bit and throw the battery back in. It boots up. A few minutes later the phone freezes and does the same thing. The battery level was around 80% on this battery. I try another OEM battery and it works fine for the rest of the night. However, the phone is now doing the same thing with that battery. I've only had issues with non official batteries in the past. For example, one battery I have will make the phone reboot after using the camera. Anyways, I'm iffy on purchasing a new battery. I don't want to pay $6-10 on a POS that was made in 2014. And I don't want to gamble on buying a $15-20 OEM battery from LG, as it may still be old and degraded; or won't even solve the problem. I tried contacting LG to see if I could get any insight, or to see if they are selling newer manufactured BL-53YH batteries and have yet to hear from them. I have noticed most people have issues with LG phones two months after their warranty ends. I was surprised to see the G3 last a few years and would like to get some more time out of it. If my 2011 galaxy nexus still works flawlessly, so should the G3. In the meantime I put a little noctua thermal paste on the EMMC and was baffled by the temperature decrease in cpu z. It still doesn't fix anything though. Any thoughts here? Should I gamble and buy the battery or is this hardware failure?
TLDR: LG devices may be time bombs and their support sucks.
There seems to be a lot of bootloop/battery issues this week. I hope device is not a "time bomb".
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I'm back again XDA.... Should I gamble and buy the battery or is this hardware failure?
TLDR: LG devices may be time bombs and their support sucks.
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"...as I was typing up a comment on Facebook..."
Maybe it's just the universe trying to tell you that Facebook sucks?
Kidding aside - it sounds like your phone is dying a slow death. Normally if you had just the restart issue I would suggest a new battery(even with the reboot at 80% - old batteries get weird), but with the sim issue combined with the screeching noise red/blue light reboot - which usually delivers a green screen kernel panic reboot - it sounds like the weirdness that occurs when a G3 dies.
If it were a bad battery I think it would just shut down, reboot to the LG logo, and then bootloop(that's what mine did when it failed); but failing G3 batteries do some weird things sometimes. To t-shoot a bad battery I guess you could try plugging the phone in and using it while charging to see if any troubles occur; if not, then invest in a battery. I can't say that is a fool proof way to check the battery though...the best way is always to replace it.
If it's (what is believed to be) a solder issue on the board - which a lot of G3 users have reported as the phone has aged - you can try the paper trick to create enough pressure on the chips to complete the solder connection or even using some heat to try and get some solder to reflow, but those are generally only temporary fixes...the issue usually comes back in time. It may be worth it to try the paper trick to help you troubleshoot your issues - if the trick fixes it briefly then you know it's a hardware issue and you can make a decision from there. If you have one of these solder issues it's just best to move on.
So flip a coin: replace the battery for @$20, or say eff-it and get a new phone; sounds like a tough decision...glad I'm not making it - yet.
*If you don't know what the paper trick is just search the G3 forums...screen flicker threads usually mention it and there are other threads out there too.