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There have been a lot of complaints about the flimsy connector for the Xoom charger. I also think that it is a very poor design at most. The metal pin is too long, the plastic part is poking out too much etc.
I am no engineer and also bad at drawing but I attached something that I think might work. If anyone feels like they could produce a prototype that would be awesome!
The small magnet might or might not work. If you look at the area where all the connectors are you will see a small metal plate that could probably be used to anchor the connector magnetically.
Any feedback is appreciated (even just to say that I am full of sh!t!)
UPDATE: I added an alternative design using the two metal connectors for charging and a silicone plug to keep the connectors in place. A magnet will give additional stability.
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There have been a lot of complaints about the flimsy connector for the Xoom charger. I also think that it is a very poor design at most. The metal pin is too long, the plastic part is poking out too much etc.
I am no engineer and also bad at drawing but I attached something that I think might work. If anyone feels like they could produce a prototype that would be awesome!
The small magnet might or might not work. If you look at the area where all the connectors are you will see a small metal plate that could probably be used to anchor the connector magnetically.
Any feedback is appreciated (even just to say that I am full of sh!t!)
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It charges my Xoom very fast. It is still working and has not caused me any issues. If it breaks, I will come back here to *****.
I was just referring to the connector but thanks for the warning
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I was just referring to the connector but thanks for the warning
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So was I. The stock one works fine however, alternatives are great as well. I just do not see a need for one personally. Others may.
Yeah, the stock connecter scares me. I like your design though I'm not sure anyone here has the means to develop and sell it. I'm hoping maybe someone may find a softwear solution to charge via the USB micro port. What do you guys think, possible or no?
funnycreature said:
There have been a lot of complaints about the flimsy connector for the Xoom charger. I also think that it is a very poor design at most. The metal pin is too long, the plastic part is poking out too much etc.
I am no engineer and also bad at drawing but I attached something that I think might work. If anyone feels like they could produce a prototype that would be awesome!
The small magnet might or might not work. If you look at the area where all the connectors are you will see a small metal plate that could probably be used to anchor the connector magnetically.
Any feedback is appreciated (even just to say that I am full of sh!t!)
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I like it! i think its a pretty good idea. Wish i knew someone who could create one. I would buy it. stock one scares me
how the F do magnets work?
anyhow, yeah really good design. I would buy that too.
i just turn it upside down while charging it.
I would buy one of those
I have to ask, why you would use that connector at all if you want to redesign a magnetic charger? Why not use the same priciple to connect it to the two plates on the bottom next to the hole for power?
As someone who repairs laptops for a living, this was the single most troubling design aspect of our new toy. It looks like it will be far to easy to damage the internals of this device with the default power cable.
It would make more sense to use a breakaway magnetic connection that makes contact with the two metal plates. I have not looked in to it too far but it would seem that the docs use this and the USB in them is strictly for audio out.
I was actually wondering if the metal plates would be used for dock charging. Since I don't own a dock I can't check. But if it is then yes, the charger should be attached magnetically! Thanks for the clarification. I'll try to design more options
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keitht said:
So was I. The stock one works fine however, alternatives are great as well. I just do not see a need for one personally. Others may.
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My only complaint with the xoom, honestly is the charging system.
For starters, I don't see a reason to not allow charging over USB. Sure the voltage would only be 5v, and it would take considerably longer, but the option would be nice. This isn't to say I want to do away with the 12v charger, because the speed at which it charges is lovely, just the option for the other.
Secondly, the needle-like connector screams, "I want to be broken quickly!" Was there really a need to make the connector in that type and size?
Thirdly, the placement of the charger port is hideous and impractical. It's dead center at the bottom. I rarely use my xoom flat against a surface. I purchased the display portfolio that motorola made. The charger port is not only a hinderance to the utilization of my portfolio case, but is also covered at all times when using the case in any manner that motorola designed it. I'm sure this is simply a brain-fart on motorola's part, which happens to everyone and is understandable, but is there a reason the charger port couldn't have been placed on one of the sides of the device? I would say preferably the left hand side, as people are less likely to turn the device to sit on that side.
I'm not simply posting this to complain, just express my thoughts on the only true fault that I feel the xoom has. On that note, a 90 degree *honestly 180 degree by the design sketch* connector would be lovely, IMO. It still wouldn't be usable with the portfolio case, but it would allow someone to angle the xoom without fear of breaking the charger off inside it.
The two metal plates are indeed for charging on the dock. It takes away the need to use the stock charger on the needle tip. Just plug the charger into the dock and set the Xoom on it. I charge this way every time.
markbo2000 said:
The two metal plates are indeed for charging on the dock. It takes away the need to use the stock charger on the needle tip. Just plug the charger into the dock and set the Xoom on it. I charge this way every time.
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Only problem is that's a $70-$120 solution
Why even have the plug then and just use the metal plates?
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Why even have the plug then and just use the metal plates?
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The plug would add additional stability so that it doesn't come off so easily. Not sure how strong you could make the magnets. As I said, I'm no engineer
Makes sense, maybe a smaler nub though haha, otherwise I like the idea
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The plug would add additional stability so that it doesn't come off so easily. Not sure how strong you could make the magnets. As I said, I'm no engineer
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Apple has a patent on the magnetically attached charger. Perhaps this is why motorola went the direction that it did.
http://patft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph...XT&s1=7311526.PN.&OS=PN/7311526&RS=PN/7311526
im gonna make this. I will let you guys know how it works. my first android by the way!
Sweet! I was also thinking about getting some latex and a second charger that I can strip and modify. This will be so cool!
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Hey all, I work in at a desk job where I am allowed to listen to podcasts and music all day so I use my phone all day every day at my desk. Currently I have the droid incredible that has the charging usb port on the left side and the headphone jack on the top. This allows me to lean my dinc against my monitor stand and put the bottom part on a gel pad so I can easily do things on the phone without it slipping down on my desk and falling flat. The phone rests at about a 110-120 degree angle so relatively vertical. This set up is perfect for me and allows me to have my phone right in front of my keyboard easily visible and accessible.
This leads me to a question with the Galaxy Nexus. This will be my next phone and my only gripe is that the usb port and headphone jack are both on the bottom of the phone which makes it so I cannot simply set my phone on the gel pad and lean it against the monitor stand. My question is, does anyone know of any phone stands that allow the phone to be positioned in such a way but have enough clearance on the bottom to plug in the usb cable and headphone jack? I have looked at a couple on amazon but they all seem to block the bottom still. I know the nexus s has a similar design so I was curious what kind of cradles they created for that phone and I like the vertical charging cradles but none offered audio out. I'm worried that will be the case for this phone as well.
Please offer your suggestions on a good stand to fit my situation. Thanks in advance!
I *think* this might work for your particular circumstance, although I'm not sure if the "flap" of the stand is going to block the headphone jack. If it does, you might still be able to use it sideways.
http://elagostore.com/elago-M2-StandDock-For-iPhone-4/M/B002OLM56K.htm
Good luck!
yep, and im used the sgp stand, and is great, you can find it on stg website.
NotHotWater said:
I *think* this might work for your particular circumstance, although I'm not sure if the "flap" of the stand is going to block the headphone jack. If it does, you might still be able to use it sideways.
http://elagostore.com/elago-M2-StandDock-For-iPhone-4/M/B002OLM56K.htm
Good luck!
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Thanks for the suggestion. I have an elago stand for my galaxy tab 10.1 and love it. Unfortunately I don't think it will work for the nexus. I think the tab at the bottom would be in the way of the headphone jack .
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Clingo?
http://www.clingo.com/home-and-office/universal-podium
Zaphod-Beeblebrox said:
Clingo?
http://www.clingo.com/home-and-office/universal-podium
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I've also considered this mount. I am worried though due to the contoured shape of the nexus as well as the textured back. I'm not sure how well it would adhere to this. Something to consider though...Thank you!
Found this bad boy: http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/samsung-desk-stand-for-galaxy-nexus-edd-d1f2begstd-p33498.htm?nocookie=1. I hope there is room for a case in in...
Yeah, the official vertical charging dock would be a perfect fit, and it also has audio out.
I use a business cars stand form staples for all my phones. =-)
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Yeah, the official vertical charging dock would be a perfect fit, and it also has audio out.
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Agreed. It would be the perfect storm if it was big enough to fit a nexus with a case on it. Oh well, guess you can't win them all...
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http://www.proclipusa.com/default.a...d=&parent_category=4&d_pcat=13451&d_cat=18854
I like these mounts, the page just went up today. It's much better than the crap Verizon is pushing. Anyone else ever use these docks?
I can't tell from the pics but does the one that have the charger block the audio out?
Never mind, I can see the audio jack now in the pics.
i came on to post this...I just got an email from proclip confirming this. Ive used proclip in the past and they are of good quality
http://www.proclipusa.com/default.a...d=&parent_category=4&d_pcat=13451&d_cat=18854
I'm guessing only the adjustable holder will fit our phones if we have cases on them?
bowsersoulstar said:
I'm guessing only the adjustable holder will fit our phones if we have cases on them?
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Looks like it. I would like the active setup, but I will have a TPU case on it. I wonder if a heat gun can help me bend it out a bit.
Roroco said:
Looks like it. I would like the active setup, but I will have a TPU case on it. I wonder if a heat gun can help me bend it out a bit.
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I'm looking at the same problem here. I've been using a holder with the 2 amp charger for the past two years with my Incredible and absolutely love it. I've never been able to get an extended battery because of how tight it slides in, though. I'll email them and ask but I might have to just swap in the stock battery for rides I know I'll need the juice.
Pros of using this are great, though. Because it's 2 amp charger I would get ~25% in about 20 minutes of driving with my Incredible with fast charging enabled in the kernel. GPS and Bluetooth for Google Maps would slow the charge down but would still give me a full charge from 20% to full in an hour. With Cyanogen I would set my bluetooth to only turn on when connected to a wall charger so I'd slide this in and my buetooth would turn on and connect to my car automatically. Last but not least, your wires are all tucked away! Very clean look.
Does the mount hold the audio cable so it doesn't move and it plugs into the phone?
Any issues with the diztronic TPU case? Would it prevent the microusb or audio plugs from inserting into the phone completely?
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Does the mount hold the audio cable so it doesn't move and it plugs into the phone?
Any issues with the diztronic TPU case? Would it prevent the microusb or audio plugs from inserting into the phone completely?
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If you get the universal dock, the bottom of the phone is completely exposed so you won't have any issues. I got my wife one of these (universal) for her iPod a few years back and the build quality is top notch.
i wish I didn't have to also plug in the cables separately, but maybe I can jerryrig something up.
Roroco said:
If you get the universal dock, the bottom of the phone is completely exposed so you won't have any issues. I got my wife one of these (universal) for her iPod a few years back and the build quality is top notch.
i wish I didn't have to also plug in the cables separately, but maybe I can jerryrig something up.
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Yah, that's I'm trying to avoid. Taking off my case every time I get in the car would be a big hassle.
nomisunrider said:
Yah, that's I'm trying to avoid. Taking off my case every time I get in the car would be a big hassle.
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If you don't want to remove the case, then you need to get the universal dock. I wish them made a version of the active dock that was slightly adjustable, but they don't.
My question is would the charging holder accommodate the extended battery given that it barely adds any thickness to the device. From the looks of the pictures, it looks like the device slides in and is held on to the sides only so it looks like shouldn't be a problem.
I contacted customer service and they said this:
Indeed the added battery won't make it work in 512324. Our adjustable holder listed with the Galaxy Nexus listing might work. Our custom holders are made for the device as it comes out of the box, and indeed any added thickness will make it not work in our custom holders.
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So I guess not?
Roroco said:
If you don't want to remove the case, then you need to get the universal dock. I wish them made a version of the active dock that was slightly adjustable, but they don't.
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Which I don't want. I want one with the charger, that can accomodate a case.
They make such a thing for the iphone. My co-worker has one.
http://www.proclipusa.com/brodit-de...and-pass-through-connector--516165-18357.aspx
I emailed them asking if they have plans for such a device for the galaxy nexus.
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My question is would the charging holder accommodate the extended battery given that it barely adds any thickness to the device. From the looks of the pictures, it looks like the device slides in and is held on to the sides only so it looks like shouldn't be a problem.
I contacted customer service and they said this:
So I guess not?
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Most extended batteries tend to add a lot of bulk (more than cases sometimes). The person who emailed you back may not be aware that the GN's extended battery adds about 1-2 mm of bulk to the bottom half of the phone.
Since the holder is a slide-in type, I can't see this being 'millimeter-tight'. Don't take my word for it but I'm willing to bet that this will fit even with the extended battery on.
I guess we won't know for sure until someone gets the fitted holders and try it though. I'd try, but I've a case so the fitted ones do me no good for sure.
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Which I don't want. I want one with the charger, that can accomodate a case.
They make such a thing for the iphone. My co-worker has one.
I emailed them asking if they have plans for such a device for the galaxy nexus.
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80 bucks for that dock. Ouch. Good concept, but that is a bit rich.
I wish you could buy these at a store. I've already got the whole set for the Nexus One and I've been waiting for the GN mount. I just added to my cart and it's an extra $20 in shipping (to Toronto). So after duty at the border I'm looking easy at $60 just for that one piece of molded plastic. Yeah the mount is great, but that's seriously expensive.
I've used their cases for the last 2 years, nexus s and thunderbolt, and they are great. I still have my Nexus S holder and the picture of the one on their site for the GNex looks like the same style, if so it should work with the extended battery. The slide in case is tight on the sides but leaves a gap behind the phone, see attached pic. The phone slides into that groove and the groove itself is very thin so it doesn't appear it will interfere with the rear battery cover at all.
Proclips is a great solution. I've used it for my car for years. I used them in 3 different cars. Pricey however, it works very well. A+
Got a negative response =(
Unfortunately not. We only have adjustable holder with charging for our Apple line. These have all the same connectors in exact the same location.
For other phones there are too many differences in charging location and thickness of cases.
Best Regards,
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nomisunrider said:
Which I don't want. I want one with the charger, that can accomodate a case.
They make such a thing for the iphone. My co-worker has one.
http://www.proclipusa.com/brodit-de...and-pass-through-connector--516165-18357.aspx
I emailed them asking if they have plans for such a device for the galaxy nexus.
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Hi
For those in the UK... just ordered an active mount from http://www.mountonus.com/
£59.99... bit steep but I guess thats the price you pay for a nice phone-specific/car-specific mount!
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Got a negative response =(
Unfortunately not. We only have adjustable holder with charging for our Apple line. These have all the same connectors in exact the same location.
For other phones there are too many differences in charging location and thickness of cases.
Best Regards,
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It was to be expected. They are not going to design a niche product for a phone until it sells consistently in the millions. That said... Creating a Micro USB small swing arm to make it universal should be too hard....
If I feel industrial, I might see what I can make on my own.
So I was browsing for keyboard cases for my Note 10.1 the other day and found this case:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Slim-Blueto...vers_Keyboard_Folios&var=&hash=item3a844f9c90
Seems interesting because the keyboard is detachable from the case via a magnet on the back of case.
My only concern is that the magnet on the case might mess up the S-Pen. I've had a case with magnets and it indeed interfered with the Note's S-Pen.
Anyway, has anyone heard of this keyboard case?
I'm almost read to order one but the viewing angle looks a little steep?
I did not see any mention of magnets in the description, it's an aluminum case.
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kkretch said:
I'm almost read to order one but the viewing angle looks a little steep?
I did not see any mention of magnets in the description, it's an aluminum case.
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Hi kkretch,
The case does seem to have a large magnet on the back where the keyboard part is attached to. Which, by the way, is one of the nicest features of this case. You can either choose to use the tablet with the back cover, or attach it to the keyboard (see picture attached).
Now, I'm not sure how it will interfere with the S-Pen. But magnets and the S-Pen don't go well together.
Here's another seller selling the same item with more detailed pictures:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ultra-Thin-...vers_Keyboard_Folios&var=&hash=item3385635c0d
And as far as I can tell, the viewing angle is adjustable.
The case seems to be very well built and slim. I might take the risk and order one.
Let me know what you think.
If it is indeed a magnet holding it on I'm going to pass, but if you do get it please tell us how it is.
Did you notice the links have different prices.
Just so you guys know, the s-pen works by radio waves, so magnets should not affect it at all. Until some proof is provided, im going to assume that everyone who says they experienced it is just convincing themselves that they did.
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younix258 said:
Just so you guys know, the s-pen works by radio waves, so magnets should not affect it at all. Until some proof is provided, im going to assume that everyone who says they experienced it is just convincing themselves that they did.
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This is not true at all. Wacom digitizers do use magnets, that's why you don't need a stylus with battery in it.
Just grab a magnet and put it near the S-Pen while writing down something and you'll see.
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Just so you guys know, the s-pen works by radio waves, so magnets should not affect it at all. Until some proof is provided, im going to assume that everyone who says they experienced it is just convincing themselves that they did.
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I have a case with some magnets attached to it hold the stand and it definitely messes up the s pen in the region of the magnets. If the case is removed, the s pen works fine. There's a lengthy thread on that in of the fora here, you should check that out if you don't believe me.
the wacom digitizer emits an electrical field which allows the spen to function without battery, it does not use RF
I experimented a little
it seems low power magnets had no effect (magnets you would find in most cases)
rare earth magnets however were able to disrupt the spen, and were able to penetrate though the back of the device and cause the spen not to work good aswell
the magnet has to be right on the device or right behind it to have any effect, as soon as it moves an inch-half an inch away it works normally again
I ordered one of those knock off samsung book cover cases which also has magnets in it, so i will see if while opened it has any effect on it
Joey22688 said:
the wacom digitizer emits an electrical field which allows the spen to function without battery, it does not use RF
I experimented a little
it seems low power magnets had no effect (magnets you would find in most cases)
rare earth magnets however were able to disrupt the spen, and were able to penetrate though the back of the device and cause the spen not to work good aswell
the magnet has to be right on the device or right behind it to have any effect, as soon as it moves an inch-half an inch away it works normally again
I ordered one of those knock off samsung book cover cases which also has magnets in it, so i will see if while opened it has any effect on it
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I see.. Well ive had two cases with magnets in it for several months and no problems so ill back up your claim about only rare metal magnets being strong enough.
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younix258 said:
Just so you guys know, the s-pen works by radio waves, so magnets should not affect it at all. Until some proof is provided, im going to assume that everyone who says they experienced it is just convincing themselves that they did.
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My sister had a case with a magnet on her Note 2 and it messed up the S-Pen. Although the S-Pen did return to its original state but it took weeks before it came completely demagnetized.
that's awesome. thanks!
I just bought a note and it came with a no name case. Has magnets that keeps the lid closed. Just two small ones at each upper corner of the case. Havent noticed any interference with it.
I really like that keyboard one, especially since its detachable. Is it possibly to get one with a trackpad? ...like the transformer? Or is that custom Asus firmware allowing it to use the pad?
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Own this case
I bought the case the OP was asking about. I have to say that it is a great fit for me. The magnet on the back that holds the keyboard to the case has caused no issues with my SPen. The case and keyboard are very slim and add very little bulk to the overall feel. The keyboard is aluminum which makes it feel very durable. The only con I can find about this case is that the key strokes are a little misleading. Don't get me wrong, the keyboard works perfectly and hasn't missed a keystroke yet, but since I am used to traditional keyboards, the feel of the keys as I type is throwing me off a little. Nothing that time and use won't solve. I also like that the keyboard is removable and I still have a protective case on the back of the tablet.
Overall, this is the best keyboard/case I have found for the Note 10.1 (2012) for my needs.
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I bought the case the OP was asking about. I have to say that it is a great fit for me. The magnet on the back that holds the keyboard to the case has caused no issues with my SPen. The case and keyboard are very slim and add very little bulk to the overall feel. The keyboard is aluminum which makes it feel very durable. The only con I can find about this case is that the key strokes are a little misleading. Don't get me wrong, the keyboard works perfectly and hasn't missed a keystroke yet, but since I am used to traditional keyboards, the feel of the keys as I type is throwing me off a little. Nothing that time and use won't solve. I also like that the keyboard is removable and I still have a protective case on the back of the tablet.
Overall, this is the best keyboard/case I have found for the Note 10.1 (2012) for my needs.
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Could you post some pics? planing on getting the same keyboard, but not sure cuz when i remove the keyboard the screen will be unprotected
greetings!
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Could you post some pics? planing on getting the same keyboard, but not sure cuz when i remove the keyboard the screen will be unprotected
greetings!
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I will try to take some pics when I get back home. Travelling for work at the moment and do not have that case and keyboard on my Note at the moment. I switch it up with the Samsung case and cover as I don't need the keyboard as often the more I use the tablet. Try to get some pics up on Friday though when I get home.
You are correct though, when the keyboard is off, the screen is exposed. I use Invisible Shield to solve that problem.
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I will try to take some pics when I get back home. Travelling for work at the moment and do not have that case and keyboard on my Note at the moment. I switch it up with the Samsung case and cover as I don't need the keyboard as often the more I use the tablet. Try to get some pics up on Friday though when I get home.
You are correct though, when the keyboard is off, the screen is exposed. I use Invisible Shield to solve that problem.
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Thank you Sir
The new S4 is marketed as to use with a keyboard, preferably the original samsung keyboard cover. In multiple reviews I've read you can use this cover in only one position. What I would like to know is if you can flip the keyboard completely over (360 degrees) as I would do intuitively when using it as a drawing block using the S Pen.
Wondering that too, I've pre-ordered so will get the keyboard cover free a few weeks after I get the device, so potentially it'll be unprotected during that time. I'll probably buy a case from Amazon (seen one for around £6) to see me through.
From what I saw in store, yes the keyboard can flip over behind the device.
Though I did find this interesting on the Tab S3 the little 1/3 flap behind the tablet secured to the back side of the device automatically, pretty well to hold it in place if you flipped the keyboard over behind the screen. The S4 did not, and there was a little extra slop in the case because of this. Course it might be the security device holding it down but its just something I noticed.
Well, yes and no. It can but backwards. It would have been nice if it was able to fold back with the tablet's back against the keyboard but it actually flips over so that the keys are at the bottom and the tablet is at the top. I'm unsure if this does damage to the keys but its not optimal.
Silly question but...
why not just use the otg cable, plug in your logitech module, and use your logitech keyboard and mouse? For the rare times I need a keyboard, that's what I do. Then the tablet is still easily used as you always would, flip, landscape, etc.
just a thought.
AsItLies said:
Silly question but...
why not just use the otg cable, plug in your logitech module, and use your logitech keyboard and mouse? For the rare times I need a keyboard, that's what I do. Then the tablet is still easily used as you always would, flip, landscape, etc.
just a thought.
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That is a silly question because many folks will use this as a traditional portable tablet as well as an occassional desktop machine. When you are out and about with your expensive tablet, you need a case to protect it from accidents, but this case also needs to be convenient. Leather wallet / folio cases are ideal for this, but (most) obviously don't feature a keyboard. Given how slippery this tablet is, with its all glass rear, I'm guessing that accidents may be relatively frequent!
So the OPs original question is pefectly valid. What is the likely durability of the keyboard when folded right over and sat on the users lap, for example, playing Pokemon on a bus? Perhaps, maybe, the keyboard case is an expensive gimmick and a standard leather wallet case would be a much better option (if such a thing actually exists yet)? The real leather case on my Galaxy NotePro 12.2 has served me extremely well over the years.
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That is a silly question because many folks will use this as a traditional portable tablet as well as an occassional desktop machine. When you are out and about with your expensive tablet, you need a case to protect it from accidents, but this case also needs to be convenient. Leather wallet / folio cases are ideal for this, but obviously don't feature a keyboard. Given how slippery this tablet is, with its all glass rear, I'm guessing that accidents may be relatively frequent!
So the OPs original question is pefectly valid. What is the likely durability of the keyboard when folded right over and sat on the users lap, for example, playing Pokemon on a bus? Perhaps, maybe, the keyboard case is an expensive gimmick and a standard leather wallet case would be a much better option (if such a thing actually exists yet)? The leather case on my Galaxy NotePro 12.2 has served me extremely well over the years.
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Who said the OP question wasn't valid? Who said not to use a case?
I'm merely suggesting an alternative for those of us who don't play "Pokemon on a bus", for example.
AsItLies said:
Who said the OP question wasn't valid? Who said not to use a case?
I'm merely suggesting an alternative for those of us who don't play "Pokemon on a bus", for example.
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Personally, I never play Pokemon, however, my daughter does on her commute to work... and the Tab S4 is her tablet Cables and peripherals are totally impractical in this particular usage case. Everyone has different requirements. Anyway, her "free" keyboard case has just been delivered today, so I'll check it out tonight.
Yemble said:
Everyone has different requirements. .
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thank you for making my point.
AsItLies said:
thank you for making my point.
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You are welcome.
However, this is an interesting point for discussion, as to how folk plan to make use of their new investment. From what I can work out from my daughter, at home it will be docked into a Cable Matters USB-C hub and used to stream movies over an Ethernet LAN connection, to her HDMI TV, amongst numerous other things. At work, she will use it as a desktop with the keyboard case and a bluetooth mouse. I've already described her commute.
If it were mine, I'd be using it as a passenger navigation device, along with AlpineQuest and a full set of OSGB maps, which is what I currently do with my aging NotePro.
Now that I've received the keyboard case I can confirm that the case can be flipped in such a way that the keyboard faces up, into the rear of the case when using as a traditional tablet. In this mode, the footprint of the tablet extends along a long edge by 38mm, which is due to the way the "fold" works.
Alternatively, it can be flipped with the keyboard facing down, which only extends the footprint by 10mm along the same edge.
First impressions are that it adds a fair bit of weight to the tablet, mainly due to good build quality. The case is pretty solid, but not padded, so it may not be great at absorbing shocks, say from a drop! The keyboard is compact, but has a reasonable feel. Note, that the pen is essential for using the keyboard with DeX as there is no trackpad.
Is it worth the RRP? Err, no, however, as a pre-order "freebe", I've got no grounds to complain.