Hi guys .. I have had my Desire Z for a little while and I want to play around with ROMs now ... I am looking for a way to make a *full* backup of the phone .. That means the OS itself, all its settings (alarms, personalization stuff, stored passwords, installed apps, etc ..), all application and personal data (both on ROM and SD card), etc ...
That is, one backup that when restored, returns the complete phone including all its settings and data to the state the phone was in when the backup was created ..
Now there are two Market tools I've found that claim to do something similar: My Backup Pro and Titanium Backup, and I also hear that ClockWorkMod can create backups ...
But I don't know if these tools backup *everything* like I want, so any advice given here would be really appreciated ..
Ok, the only way to make a 100% backup is when you are rooted.
When you are rooted you can use titanium backup to back up all your apps, data & settings. Then when you install a new ROM you can easily restore everything.
The back up you do in CWM is called a nandroid and this backs up your entire ROM including apps, data & settings. as soon as you are rooted you will want to do this so you have a back up of your stock ROM incase anything goes wrong and you need to get your stock ROM easily.
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cjward23 said:
Ok, the only way to make a 100% backup is when you are rooted.
When you are rooted you can use titanium backup to back up all your apps, data & settings. Then when you install a new ROM you can easily restore everything.
The back up you do in CWM is called a nandroid and this backs up your entire ROM including apps, data & settings. as soon as you are rooted you will want to do this so you have a back up of your stock ROM incase anything goes wrong and you need to get your stock ROM easily.
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Ok thanks for that advice ...
So assuming my phone is rooted (it isn't now but I will do it once this issue is resolved), which method is better for me which backs up *everything* (stock OS, personal data, app data, media, settings, SD card stuff, etc ..) ? CWM or Titanium Backup ?
I have heard that CWM doesn't backup everything .. that it leaves some stuff out (not exactly sure what this is though) .. :/
ahmadka said:
Ok thanks for that advice ...
So assuming my phone is rooted (it isn't now but I will do it once this issue is resolved), which method is better for me which backs up *everything* (stock OS, personal data, app data, media, settings, SD card stuff, etc ..) ? CWM or Titanium Backup ?
I have heard that CWM doesn't backup everything .. that it leaves some stuff out (not exactly sure what this is though) .. :/
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never ever ever use TiBU for backing up anything other than downloaded apps. (imo, some people may disagree, but I have never had success with TiBU outside of saving a few downloaded apps... and even then it seems to be hit or miss for me)
CWM is the best option for creating a full backup. when you restore a nandroid backup, it's like going back in time... everything is exactly as it was when that backup was created.
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never ever ever use TiBU for backing up anything other than downloaded apps. (imo, some people may disagree, but I have never had success with TiBU outside of saving a few downloaded apps... and even then it seems to be hit or miss for me)
CWM is the best option for creating a full backup. when you restore a nandroid backup, it's like going back in time... everything is exactly as it was when that backup was created.
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Hmm ... Are you absolutely sure that CWM backs up everything ? That is, the stock ROM, all my android's settings, sms, contacts, emails, list of apps installed, app data, my personal data (photos, videos, music, documents, etc ..) ? And does it also backup data from both the built-in memory and stuff on the SD card ?
Reason why I ask this is because this afternoon I came across a thread (can't seem to find it now) where somebody said CWM leaves some stuff out in backing up and then somebody else suggested using Titanium Backup ...
So I want to proceed with CWM only if you're dead sure that it backs up *everyyyyyythinggggg* ...
Btw, I don't mean to question to knowledge, I just want to be sure, thats all
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Ok, the only way to make a 100% backup is when you are rooted.
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+1
Root + Titanium Backup.
How can we back up the stock rom?? Cwm will not be present on the stock rom. So how?
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mmb_z said:
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Root + Titanium Backup.
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Conflicting statements people .. :/
CWM or titanium backup ?
Btw, does titanium backup also backup the stock OS/ROM ?
vikraam said:
How can we back up the stock rom?? Cwm will not be present on the stock rom. So how?
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When you root you will still be using your stock ROM, you then back up your stock rooted ROM. There is no way to back up an unrooted ROM.
Unrooted stock ROM's are available in the form of an official RUU most of which you will find if you read the stickies in the development section of the forums.
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ahmadka said:
Conflicting statements people .. :/
CWM or titanium backup ?
Btw, does titanium backup also backup the stock OS/ROM ?
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Titanium will not back up the os, you can use to back up all of the system apps and data. But as a previous poster said this is not good a good idea as restoring them tends to be problematic.
And don't worry about your sdcard flashing roms will not affect any data on your sdcard.
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mmb_z said:
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Root + Titanium Backup.
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the only thing you could theoretically lose are photos, videos, etc that are stored on the sdcard... but this would only happen if you deleted/formatted the sd card. otherwise, they just move with you from rom to rom.
I don't know what people think titanium backup is for, but seriously... it's not as magnificent as it is commonly made out to be. its only real use is restoring stuff from /data (ie apps and settings). even then, it is known to be problematic. I have used it in the past but I finally got sick of it when I realized that half of the time I used it to backup/restore it ended up doing more harm than good.
CWM is the best option for making a full backup of EVERYTHING on your phone (remember, your sd card is not part of your phone... it doesn't get backed up/restored via CWM). restoring a CWM backup will revert your phone to the exact state it was in at the time of the backup.
I used titanium backup and it worked for everything. Even backed the stuff up to my PC.
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I used titanium backup and it worked for everything. Even backed the stuff up to my PC.
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that's awesome, but you will encounter problems with Ti backup if you try to restore anything from /system after installing a new rom. if you've come from one aosp rom to another, you might get lucky and not have any trouble (especially if they are a similar flavor of aosp), but if you try to restore anything from a sense rom's /system to an aosp rom's /system, or vice versa, you're in for a lot of force closing and general bass-ackwardness.
op: the BEST way is a nandroid backup. if you try and restore titanium backup apps and settings over whichever rom you've installed, you can almost guarantee something will be broken... just do it the right way and do a nandroid backup via CWM and save yourself the trouble.
Guys I forgot to mention, my phone is NOT currently rooted (Yes I realize I should have mentioned this in the first post) .. so what can I use now to backup everything like I want ?
ahmadka said:
Guys I forgot to mention, my phone is NOT currently rooted (Yes I realize I should have mentioned this in the first post) .. so what can I use now to backup everything like I want ?
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Not much really, there are apps available to back up sms and contacts will be synced to Google.
todo backup by easeus...free too. works great
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1) Root.
2) Install CWM Recovery.
3) Nandroid.
There's your backup.
How do you guys do backups when you try out different roms? Am I bound to lose scores and settings in games and apps every time i change rom?
(sorry for what may be a stupid question, but i understood the answers given earlier that making a Nandroid recovery will also recover the rom at the time of the backup not just apps and settings)
glx-rider said:
How do you guys do backups when you try out different roms? Am I bound to lose scores and settings in games and apps every time i change rom?
(sorry for what may be a stupid question, but i understood the answers given earlier that making a Nandroid recovery will also recover the rom at the time of the backup not just apps and settings)
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A nandroid back does a complete back of system, apps, data, and settings. When you restore a nandroid your phone will be restored to the exact point it was at before you preformed the nandroid.
To back up apps and data, you will need to use an app like titanium backup. you then can restore apps and data, including game save and scores after you flash a new rom.
But it is not advised to back up and restore system data and settings with titanium back up
before i rooted i took backups whit MyBackup.
after you get rooted, take Clean CWM backup of your phone.
when you are up and running on a custom rom, take CWM backup, and back up downloaded apps whit Titanium backup.
If you are going from sense rom to sense rom, you dont necessaryli need to wipe your data and apps, so you don't have to restore anything. If you are going for completely different rom, you need wipe everything, after you are running in new rom, you cant get just the apps from cwm backup, it would restore your old rom too, so now restore your apps and stuff from TI backups. and if you don't like the new rom, use CWM backup to go back to your last rom.
so you need both backups cwm and Ti..
and as said before app backups might cause some problems when going from rom to rom
I have been jumping between different MIUI roms, they are basically the same so i haven't wiped anything(except dalvik cache) when flashing new rom, so everything will stay the way they are, and no ned to restore anything, if that's the case.
What comes to the stuff on SDcard, it will be just fine, if you want to back up your pics/music/vids, etc from your sdcard, just copy them to your computer.
i'm trying to figure out what restoring from a backup actually does.
let's say i make a Nandroid backup and then flash a custom ROM like StarBurst. i then restore from the backup i made. will this restore all of my apps, settings, files, etc. to the same configuration they were before flashing the custom ROM? so will i be running the new ROM with all of my previous apps, files, etc.?
OR will i have to start all over from scratch (install all apps, files, etc.) each time i flash a ROM?
The nandroid is a backup of the whole rom which you chose to back up. If you restore the back up it'll overwrite the new rom u flashed. Each time you flash a new rom you usually have to start from scratch unless u use something like titanium backup (look for it in the market or google it to find info about it). Remember its always best to do a wipe before flashing a new rom unless instructed that its ok to not do one.
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The nandroid is a backup of the whole rom which you chose to back up. If you restore the back up it'll overwrite the new rom u flashed. Each time you flash a new rom you usually have to start from scratch unless u use something like titanium backup (look for it in the market or google it to find info about it). Remember its always best to do a wipe before flashing a new rom unless instructed that its ok to not do one.
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ok, thanks. yeah, i've read a handful of tutorials and they all say to wipe all your data. with new ROM updates coming out all the time, i didn't want to start all over from scratch each time. installing and customizing all the apps i have would take forever.
Is it true that Titanium Backup isn't a good one to use since you can't restore data because it will cause force closes? If I'm going to restore then I'd like to restore settings, bookmarks, texts, etc.
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Is it true that Titanium Backup isn't a good one to use since you can't restore data because it will cause force closes? If I'm going to restore then I'd like to restore settings, bookmarks, texts, etc.
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It depends. For a single app and it's data Titanium works great. I use it all the time. Using to restore phone settings is where you can run into problems. And that is because going from ROM A to ROM B, the dev may have changed some system file somewhere that Titanium is gonna mess with, then you get weird force close issues.
so i have calk vs. 2.5 and i want unnamed rom with all my app's. so when i go into recovery do i need to format all data or can i just instal the rom ??? and ik u can use titanium backup but in titanium backup is there a button restore all backed up apps? thanks!
In order to flash a completely different ROM, you need to wipe data, which will erase your current ROM and apps. You will need to use Titanium Backup to restore your apps after formatting and flashing the new ROM.
I think (not positive) TB has a batch option to restore all user apps.
shlomi84 said:
so i have calk vs. 2.5 and i want unnamed rom with all my app's. so when i go into recovery do i need to format all data or can i just instal the rom ??? and ik u can use titanium backup but in titanium backup is there a button restore all backed up apps? thanks!
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Back up your apps on the current rom you are running. Use Titanium back up from the market. I usually wipe data and then back up the app. Go down the list until you got all the ones you wanted.
When you flash the new rom, flash it normally as you would going to any new rom. I use Calkulin's FORMAT ALL zip folder. It's easiest. And then flash new rom and reboot system. After you let the rom settle in for a good while, I usually reboot the phone. Then when you start setting up on the new rom, download Titanium back up again from the market. Once it's on your phone, go into the app and all the apps you backed up should be at the bottom. I usually just restore the app not the data with it.
Try not to restore system apps + data because it can cause problems when switching between ROMS.
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Try not to restore system apps + data because it can cause problems when switching between ROMS.
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I've never even found myself backing up/restoring system apps. I just stick to the "user apps".
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I've never even found myself backing up/restoring system apps. I just stick to the "user apps".
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is there a one button click for "restore all backed up user app's" or restore all app's lol i got alot of app's and takes like an hour between roms to get everything back
Pm me
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shlomi84 said:
is there a one button click for "restore all backed up user app's" or restore all app's lol i got alot of app's and takes like an hour between roms to get everything back
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Yes. Click menu then batch but it only works with the paid version of TB. I've had plenty of problems restoring apps and user data with TB on a new Rom. Yes it's quick and easy but in my opinion it's worth the time to reinstall everything you can fresh from the market.
I've always found switching roms a good time to clear out unneeded apps, just select the ones I really use and forget the rest.
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DataHawg said:
Yes. Click menu then batch but it only works with the paid version of TB. I've had plenty of problems restoring apps and user data with TB on a new Rom. Yes it's quick and easy but in my opinion it's worth the time to reinstall everything you can fresh from the market.
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Agree with this sentiment. Connected to Wi-Fi and take 10 minutes to fresh install everything so you know you aren't getting any of the conflicts that can arise using restored apps from different firmware.
So i've been reading for over an hour and didn't find an answer to this so I guess it warrants a new thread.
I'm currently on Calkulin's 3.0 (EL29) Gingerbread Rom with Rouge 1.1.2 recovery.
So I planned on using Odin to flash stock EL29 tar. then manually update ICS (unless I get the OTA pushed automatically). Then plan on rooting ICS and adding CWM.
Two Questions:
1. Is that the best way to go about getting ICS?
2. After I update, root and reinstall Titanium Backup Pro can I batch restore everything I had or am I asking for trouble by doing that?
I don't have tons of apps but I did do Calkulin's "Bare Rom Converter" after installing his ROM. (not sure if that makes a difference).
I don't know about using batch titanium... To be safe I would use app backup and restore in play store to keep the apps you want and use titanium after you are running the rooted setup you choose, to then restore data to the apps. Never tried running batch this would be a safe method.
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Just batch restore. Prefer to do App Only and then only restore data to things like games with progress or apps that would be a pain in the ass to configire.
The main area you would actually have trouble in anyways is restoring old data to a new version of an app. I always update before I backup and the only things I do not restore from a backup is titanium backup and any apps already installed. So you might try to restore data to say swype and there be a version difference.
Restoring game data should not be an issue, restoring system app data might give you massive grief through.
Thank you for your replies. I'll leave system apps alone and won't restore Titanium or Swype. I've updated everything from play store.
Might just restore downloaded apps & just one at a time.
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I flashed the Eclipse 2.1 ToroPlus ROM last night coming from a stock AOSP 4.2....did the usual Titanium Backup before the flash.
Did the factory reset 3 times as well as format system 3 times like I do EVERY time I change ROMs (using latest TWRP)...
However once I booted this ROM everything (folders) was gone...like when you revert to factory with ODIN...just the basic files were in my root...
I never had this happen before...
the problem with this is I was using "Safe Notes" to keep ALOT of Admin info/passwords for numerous websites I do the upkeep on, as well as some bank info, money owed to me by others, etc....
Now, I DO have a bunch of CWM nandroids from previous backups...is there any way to go into one of these nandroids and extract the files for "Safe Notes" from a Titanium Backup "backup zip" to slip into the directory for the app?
I've done it before with a SafeNotes backup I made but that's long gone now...
I have backups of all the WidgetLocker, UCCW, music, etc. but I NEED NEED NEED to get the Safe Notes info back...
Like I said I've never had this happen before except for when I intentionally wipe everything via ODIN when returning to factory condition...I wasn't expecting it...
Also, what could cause this problem??
Was it because I came from 4.2 back to 4.1.2??
When I booted up after installing the new ROM I went to re-install my apps through Titanium Backup but they weren't there...perhaps that had something to do with the gapps package?
I thought that might be the case so I installed the 4.2 gapps package and still nothing in TB....
perhaps install CWM and restore one of the latest nandroids to recover the Safe Notes file/info?
if I could extract it from a ZIP from inside one of the TB/nandroid backups that would be sweet...but if restoring a nandroid is the ONLY option I guess I'll have to do that...
I *REALLY* need the info on that Safe Notes file...hope someone can help...
This is a great question, I lost my notes somehow with TWRP trying to upgrade to BAKED blackbean 7 on my Galaxy S3. Have you found a solution yet?
Titanium backup can restore apps and data from backups. Hit menu (3 dots) go to extract from nandroid backup. Hopefully it will have it. Some apps store information in other places and when that is the case it's lost. Should do the trick though
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Ever find a solution? I lost my SafeNotes data as well and NEED to get it back...
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Titanium backup can restore apps and data from backups. Hit menu (3 dots) go to extract from nandroid backup. Hopefully it will have it. Some apps store information in other places and when that is the case it's lost. Should do the trick though
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StevePSK said:
Ever find a solution? I lost my SafeNotes data as well and NEED to get it back...
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If you have a nandroid backup and root you should be able to use TiBu or Nandroid Manager to restore your app data.
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If you have a nandroid backup and root you should be able to use TiBu or Nandroid Manager to restore your app data.
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I have both, but when I try to restore data for the app, SafeNotes then has what appears to be an empty data. I'm not sure if the database was stored somewhere else. I made a nandroid but lost my SafeNotes data after ODIN. I have tried to look around (mostly in the data folder) for a file I can use with SafeNotes' restore database option, but nothing seems to work :/.