Revolutionary where are you?

Revolutionary where are you? - HTC Wildfire S

We need you bootloader unlock for our Marvel's.

They tried, failed. Stopped development on the phone.

Hello everyone on the team Revolutionary I'm a little disappointed with the way they deal with the htc bootloader marvel with all due respect I have for them ....
I understand the difficulty that results but I think supporting a team that does not leave a security surpass both hardware and software and would have continued trying to find the fault.
Besides thank you anyway for the work continuously because they have a unique talent (even face a htc) and a number of phones has now ... hoping that one day the urge to override the concerns of the bootloader I still marvel their resume still has impeccable support this team in many ways

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Wildfire Bootlocking update from HTC

Ok this isnt much help to those expecting a fix any time soon but.....
HTC seem to have decided our Wildfire is worth there attention after a conversation with one of there support agents on the website heres some of the convo:
Chris : ok could you give me any information regarding locked bootloaders and the wildfire being unlocked
Robert: We are currently developing new bootloader unlocked software for your phone. HTC is still committed to allowing our customers to unlock the bootloaders if they wish, however we are still implementing the policy and many updates were already finalized prior to our change in policy. We apologize for the inconvenience, but be assured that we are working on a solution for our customers and our commitment has not changed. Please stay tuned to our official channels for ongoing updates on how we will be implementing this policy. Thank you for your patience.
Chris : So the Wildfire hasnt been forgotten about then
Robert: no none of the phones have been forgotten that is the latest response we have for customers. you can always come back to us to see if we have any later news on this for you in the future.
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Thats at least some good news for those worrying that an official unlock for our model isnt coming out.

Well this does indeed sound promising

Some thoughts...

Hello folks, hope that everything's going great out there with your phones.
I have some thought's about the HTC Wildfire S..
Sadly, it seems that it's not going to get rooted in a while (unless you're a fool to buy the XTC clip), and even if you do that - WHERE ARE THE ROMS?! I can only see just one custom rom on this forum, and it's probably similar to the original, i suppose that's because there aren't even any screenshots of it!
Alpharev X was really a life saver, because they actually managed to overcome the ugly S-ON on the HTC Wildfire. But talk about getting disappointed when they wrote that some things didn't work out on the HTC Wildfire S. I think that someone from Alpharev X wrote;
"you're better off getting the desire S and/or up.
much better devices.
Wildfire S is just old **** in a new package."
WELL - WTF is Wildfire then?!
I actually read that 4 times just to make sure that it actually came from Alpharev x.. Thanks for that guys..
Sadly, i think that our WF S won't be S-OFF in a while, and if it does, people are going to forget it completely and custom roms won't exist for it.
Just read the Wildfire forum, people are launching new roms almost everyday!
Just my thoughts.
(btw don't complain on my English, you wouldn't write as well either if you talked 4 languages as i do)

You're right, Alpha guy with high level of culture and interpersonal skills ( maybe gay as for me...) told me the same on IRC, when I stupidly ask for marvel status ... Screw them.
Personally I'm waiting for HTC unlock, maybe near September we'll know something more ...
ROMs for Buzz are weird as for me, maybe 'cause I'm familliair with Cyanogenmod from previous device I can live without Sense at all.
Cheers

buber82 said:
You're right, Alpha guy with high level of culture and interpersonal skills ( maybe gay as for me...) told me the same on IRC, when I stupidly ask for marvel status ... Screw them.
Personally I'm waiting for HTC unlock, maybe near September we'll know something more ...
ROMs for Buzz are weird as for me, maybe 'cause I'm familliair with Cyanogenmod from previous device I can live without Sense at all.
Cheers
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Im thankful that they worked on the Htc Wildfire, but it's REALLY a big shame writing that WF S is some old ****. Maybe i don't wan't to buy a f-ing Desire because it feels like carrying a eee pc in your pocket.
Let's hope that HTC will help us Have a nice day man!

Unlock my WFS bootloader

Everyone that is still s-on goto this page http://htcdev.com/contact and write "Unlock my WFS bootloader" click send and repeat as many times as you can. Cant hurt to try seeing how they are taking their sweet time with the upgrade.

Done.
Now up to others. This is the only way.
Facebook page isn't a great succes.
Really hope in the end of the month cyanogenmod 7 full working (camera, ...) for free on my phone.

Been there, done that and just did it again....
It's about time that something should start happening.

Boo HTCDEV if you're reading this, booo

If there is enough driving force then maybe we have a chance. A handful of users will not be sufficient, we need enough people for HTCDEV to notice that there is a large enough userbase to warrant them developing the unlock for the phone.
At the moment there simply isn't enough people.

imlgl said:
If there is enough driving force then maybe we have a chance. A handful of users will not be sufficient, we need enough people for HTCDEV to notice that there is a large enough userbase to warrant them developing the unlock for the phone.
At the moment there simply isn't enough people.
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I think so too but they probably already have developed the unlock and there's a fat guy in a smelly Big Android BBQ t-shirt sitting at the HTC HQ with a small red button next to his hand. All he has to do is press it and we all get the update, but no. He's sitting there reading these forums sniggering to himself with a fat cigar in his mouth because he's enjoying watching us all suffer at 600mhz.

*se-nsei. said:
I think so too but they probably already have developed the unlock and there's a fat guy in a smelly Big Android BBQ t-shirt sitting at the HTC HQ with a small red button next to his hand. All he has to do is press it and we all get the update, but no. He's sitting there reading these forums sniggering to himself with a fat cigar in his mouth because he's enjoying watching us all suffer at 600mhz.
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That's probably true, I'm just waiting for the overclock kernal haha. My WFS is already rooted so means nothing to me, but would like the scene get more popular

haha lol lets send more messagea and make him angry, then he must press that red button!!

*se-nsei. said:
I think so too but they probably already have developed the unlock and there's a fat guy in a smelly Big Android BBQ t-shirt sitting at the HTC HQ with a small red button next to his hand. All he has to do is press it and we all get the update, but no. He's sitting there reading these forums sniggering to himself with a fat cigar in his mouth because he's enjoying watching us all suffer at 600mhz.
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Yep thats all I want is the o/c and get rid of crapware.... oh well back to spamming the HTCDevs site.

+1 i want to do some modifications but my sec its s-on aaaaaarrgg.... I send the all the days one mail htc requesting it
Sent from my HTC Wildfire S A510e using xda premium

*se-nsei. said:
I think so too but they probably already have developed the unlock and there's a fat guy in a smelly Big Android BBQ t-shirt sitting at the HTC HQ with a small red button next to his hand. All he has to do is press it and we all get the update, but no. He's sitting there reading these forums sniggering to himself with a fat cigar in his mouth because he's enjoying watching us all suffer at 600mhz.
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got to the site and sent the message. hope the fat guy hears.

We may have a chance!
Look what HTC India sent me:
Dear Pushkar Kurhekar,
Thank you for contacting our Customer Support Center. We are dedicated to providing you with the best quality service...............................................................In this regard we would like to intimate you that we are currently developing new boot loader unlocked software for your phone. HTC is still committed to allowing our customers to unlock the boot loaders if they wish, however we are still implementing the policy and many updates were already finalized prior to our change in policy. We apologize for the inconvenience, but be assured that we are working on a solution for our customers and our commitment has not changed. Please stay tuned to our official channels for ongoing updates on how we will be implementing this policy. Thank you for your patience.
/lies?

Send their reply to HTCDev

I already have a magic but today I got a wfs from work, big disapointment to see it's s-on and not much can be done about it
Even the people that are already s-off should bug htcdev with this question, the sooner our devices get the bootloader unlocked the sooner the wfs scene will grow!

SomeDudeOnTheNet said:
Look what HTC India sent me:
Dear Pushkar Kurhekar,
Thank you for contacting our Customer Support Center. We are dedicated to providing you with the best quality service...............................................................In this regard we would like to intimate you that we are currently developing new boot loader unlocked software for your phone. HTC is still committed to allowing our customers to unlock the boot loaders if they wish, however we are still implementing the policy and many updates were already finalized prior to our change in policy. We apologize for the inconvenience, but be assured that we are working on a solution for our customers and our commitment has not changed. Please stay tuned to our official channels for ongoing updates on how we will be implementing this policy. Thank you for your patience.
/lies?
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Maybe we are wrong the fat guy is probably flustering away in his office trying to crack the wildfire S for HTC themselves but can't find a way. Thinking "no wonder AlphaRevX gave up". haha

*se-nsei. said:
Maybe we are wrong the fat guy is probably flustering away in his office trying to crack the wildfire S for HTC themselves but can't find a way. Thinking "no wonder AlphaRevX gave up". haha
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Or he lost the remote whilst at the XDA BBQ.

Request done on htcdev ! Hope they will listen to us and update soon for our little phone to be on the frontline !

I sent HTC a complaint with customer service.
And all they replied was..
Dear -- --,
Thank you for contacting HTC
We thank you for your interest in unlocking your HTC Wildfire S but do not have information on when updates are released or which devices will be updated
We currently don’t have information regarding which phones will be unlocked beside the HTC Sensation. For this reason I would suggest you to follow our official website and social media networks for further announcements about which phones will be boot loader unlocked.
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....

I sent an complaint too.
Hope they will listen to us.

God this is taking too long..

Yeah people, we are right back into the game

Huge thanks to the admins for listening to our voices!
Let's hope for a stronger development for our WFS from now on.
Here we come steaming from behind!

What?! Why are you doing it?

Will never be undone. The scene will die even quicker now it is not on the main forum page.

Well, this is just not justified. The original HTC Wildfire keeps its position on the "Promised Land" while its successor is trashed here?! Other than that I can call some more devices which are less "popular" than Wildfire S but they still get to keep their position on the front page.
The main outcome is that the Wildfire S Android development will drop vigorously. Not that it's something special right now. XDA doomed our phone to development mediocrity and there is nothing we can do about it!

imlgl said:
Will never be undone. The scene will die even quicker now it is not on the main forum page.
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Always the pessimist, but I've gotta admit, it's not going anywhere at all.

I don't understand why.
If the devs work together, the job will be done faster.

I guess the begging letter didn't help much.
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This nonsense is stupid.

Calm down guys.
Here is a list with xtc clip owners: Click
Check the country and pm the person, if you want s-off!
I will be s-off with xtc clip in two weeks
Then I can test my own hensemods first
Hit thanks when I helped!

That's not good news. Grey clouds is the only person who can give us good news right about now..

This blows
Read title ^

Without wanting to offend mods or admins, I think that the decision to put a 8-9 month old phone on the "Legacy & Low Activity Devices" area is an enormous disrespect to us (I'm being SOFT), owner of such devices.
It's something that seems to be made without even thinking about the consequences.
There are many other devices that should be dead on the main forum page for ages, but still have their position of "glory" there.
Those devices were launched two or more years ago, without any future upgrade in sight. Do you think this is rational? Honestly! I don't think so.
I think that now, even more than before devs should stick together and show that the Wildfire S is NOT a legacy device and much less a low activity device.
I didn't come to this forum for 2 or 3 days due to a very tight work schedule and now I saw this... I am shocked and disappointed with XDA.
My post has nothing to do with the existence of XTC-Clips and the possibility of rooting the WFS almost all around the world. I think that matter is offtopic.
It's just plain nonsense to "archive" a phone with a recent RUU update, with development going on, with users posting every single day, with users needing support and with HTC still having plans for this phone.
It's like HTC saying:"Your phone is 8 months old but we decided that it isn't supported anymore. Don't ask why. We don't care about you."
Sorry for my angry post. Once again I want to say that I don't intend to disrespect who manages this forums. I appreciate your work but this action is IMHO 1000 steps backwards for a respectable community of WFS owners.
Please, pretty please with sugar on top, consider undoing this.
Like other user said, you still have the "old" Wildfire on the main forums and already "deleted" the successor. Where is the logic?!
Please don't make the HTC Wildfire S be invisible. It's like you hate this phone and intentionally want it do die early. That's not fair. I would call it poor judgement but I'm afraid of hurting your feelings. I'm not here for that.
I like to help as much as I can. I have a hard job so my time isn't that much... but still I've shown that if people need my help, I try to be responsive.
Many people upgraded their WFS with my help. I don't want to be pretentious or have credit. I just expect this behavior from XDA, that usaully is a good and reliable source of information.
My most honest respect!

I totally agree with you miguelca.
WFS should be on top of the XDA page because he is still unlokcable.
This phone should be the priority of the community

I agree. The WFS is a great phone. Please put it back
Sent from my %s running Jinkaratu's XE ROM

It's not about the S-Off. In my country - Bulgaria, I can easily go and pay about 15 euros for that service. No problem. What really bothers me is that our phone is going to sink in oblivion before it has been given the chance to grow and develop!
I'm sorry XDA, but this is freakin' unjust and unacceptable!
miguelca, kudos for your elaborate opinion!

Where is the moderator of this section?Pls respond couse this is nonsence...

I can't believe.
It's not 10 years old, it's only few months old!!!
Sent from my HTC Wildfire S A510e using XDA App

You get the feeling HTC is afraid of this low cost phone and wish they hadn't released it?
Now XDA joins the sweep it under the table bandwagon...What next. Someone comes in the middle of the night and steals it off my desk and "disappears" it.

wildfire on main page and WILDFIRE S on Legacy & Low Activity Devices, u must be kidding adm.....

I'm thinking HTC has asked or paid for our WFS to be pushed aside, maybe because they are finished developing for it and have no plans on unlocking bootloader. If so someone (XDA) has sold us out.

Why are there so few ROMs for N5x?

I recently purchased Oneplus 2 after my previous phone Oneplus One. I got sick at the rate of development of OPT and just order Nexus 5x and here too I'm seeing that there are very few custom ROMs. I'm wondering whether this phone too suffers from development restrictions as OPT? OPT has several proprietory drivers which are halting development. As I can see, OPO and Nexus 6p both have tons of Marshmallow based ROMs.
Are the developers yet to jump on this device? Or are there other issues? I have limited ROM building abilities and would try to build some popular ROMs once I get my hands on this device. Please share your knowledge.

I'm wondering the same thing. Development was awesome on hammerhead- I thought it would be the same with the 5X.

I'm surprised too.

Sorry to this noob qn but its been a while since i had toucher custom roms. What is the difference between original android development and android development? IIRC, OAD is for CM roms related whereas AD is for 3rd party customised.

ilikesamsung said:
Sorry to this noob qn but its been a while since i had toucher custom roms. What is the difference between original android development and android development? IIRC, OAD is for CM roms related whereas AD is for 3rd party customised.
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This http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-5x/orig-development/guides-rules-posting-original-t3208283 explains the difference.
I see only about 25% more ROMs for the 6P than the 5X, I count 16 here. It is probably just that more developers went for the 6P with the larger size, front facing speakers and 3GB of RAM.

From what I gather, Google is hell bent on making android a flashoholic's nightmare. But there is no need to worry because of this huge developers' community. I'm sure there will be an alternative to Google's android.

gururoop said:
From what I gather, Google is hell bent on making android a flashoholic's nightmare. But there is no need to worry because of this huge developers' community. I'm sure there will be an alternative to Google's android.
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Can you share a bit of what your have gathered? Sources would be nice.
I'd actually like to hear from the ROM developers on this subject.
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gururoop said:
From what I gather, Google is hell bent on making android a flashoholic's nightmare. But there is no need to worry because of this huge developers' community. I'm sure there will be an alternative to Google's android.
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Are you kidding me? That is such an incorrect statement. Other devices never have bootloaders that can be unlocked as easily as nexus devices or unlocking a bootloader on other devices will void your warranty.. Nexus devices have always been developer friendly have actually were always meant to be developer devices, not devices for the end user.
Hell they are more open that any other manufacturer. What device OEM do you know of that releases all rom source code? Kernel code all oems have to release, but not rom code. Why is it that aosp roms for other devices need to be hacked together to work right? Because the manufacturer does not release the binaries needed to do a proper build. Google releases these binaries for every nexus device so you can build the whole system from source without hacking things together to work. So your statement is totally false..
What phone do you know of that you can build the whole system and flash it to your phone and have it work? Besides nexus devices you really can't.. Not a rom released by OEM anyway.
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PiousInquisitor said:
Can you share a bit of what your have gathered? Sources would be nice.
I'd actually like to hear from the ROM developers on this subject.
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graffixnyc said:
Are you kidding me? That is such an incorrect statement. Other devices never have bootloaders that can be unlocked as easily as nexus devices or unlocking a bootloader on other devices will void your warranty.. Nexus devices have always been developer friendly have actually were always meant to be developer devices, not devices for the end user.
Hell they are more open that any other manufacturer. What device OEM do you know of that releases all rom source code? Kernel code all oems have to release, but not rom code. Why is it that aosp roms for other devices need to be hacked together to work right? Because the manufacturer does not release the binaries needed to do a proper build. Google releases these binaries for every nexus device so you can build the whole system from source without hacking things together to work. So your statement is totally false..
What phone do you know of that you can build the whole system and flash it to your phone and have it work? Besides nexus devices you really can't.. Not a rom released by OEM anyway.
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Merely allowing bootloaders to be unlocked does not mean that Google is developer friendly. Now, look at the ugly warnings that pop up as soon as you unlock the bootloader of bullhead. Didn't happen when I used mako. And supporting developers doesn't mean only hardware, even if you look at software, rooting has become so difficult. Earlier, it was as simple as installing a custom recovery and flashing binaries. Now, its a long story. Moreover, as soon as you root Marshmallow, certain features such as Android Pay get screwed up (although I never use those features, have read a lot of complaints about this). Do you consider these moves developer friendly? I don't.

im thinking 6p was a better option for developers to buy meanwhile the 5x owned by consumers and those who want a smaller phone.
i was planning to unlock my bootloader right now but i realised i dont have a usb-c to usb cable so i can only charge it.
can you hide/remove this warning logo?
im pretty sure the roms will be ported over to each other in the new year

republicano said:
im thinking 6p was a better option for developers to buy meanwhile the 5x owned by consumers and those who want a smaller phone.
i was planning to unlock my bootloader right now but i realised i dont have a usb-c to usb cable so i can only charge it.
can you hide/remove this warning logo?
im pretty sure the roms will be ported over to each other in the new year
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Fortunately you can hide the ugly logo by flashing modified splash files. They can be found in this forum.

gururoop said:
Merely allowing bootloaders to be unlocked does not mean that Google is developer friendly. Now, look at the ugly warnings that pop up as soon as you unlock the bootloader of bullhead. Didn't happen when I used mako. And supporting developers doesn't mean only hardware, even if you look at software, rooting has become so difficult. Earlier, it was as simple as installing a custom recovery and flashing binaries. Now, its a long story. Moreover, as soon as you root Marshmallow, certain features such as Android Pay get screwed up (although I never use those features, have read a lot of complaints about this). Do you consider these moves developer friendly? I don't.
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That is just so wrong. On so many levels. But for one correction root is obtained with a single flash of one file and android pay works with it. Why do you post such nonsense?

PiousInquisitor said:
LOL. Spoken like a true user. Google hates development so much it wrote a guide 'for carriers, OEMs, and developers' showing them how to build from source. (Hint: Check out 'Downloading and Building')
https://source.android.com/source/index.html
What you don't understand is ROM/app development and rooting are mutually exclusive. You can build and use a ROM and not have root. You can also root and not use a ROM. Your pathetic rant above is about root, not development.
You obviously don't understand security either. Google has been blasted for poor security in the past and are trying to change that. Hence monthly security updates. Root is a big 'ole backdoor. One that can be used by Uncle Sam, China, or your friendly foreign identity thief to steel your info. With root the user, the biggest security hole there is, is in control of who gets through the backdoor. Google doesn't trust us and nor do our banks. Its not hard to see why Android Pay doesn't work with us in control via root.
I don't blame Google and neither should you.
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He thinks a nexus is hard to root? Seriously? He has clearly never owned an HTC device. The HTC Rezound literally had to have its circuit board shorted out to be properly rooted and have an unlocked bootloader. lol "Tap these two points once, then 1.75 seconds later tap them again. Too slow and it will reboot, too fast and it won't do anything. Just right timing will unlock the bootloader." Those were basically our instructions. OH how about the HTC Thunderbolt!! Having to type like 30 lines (or copy paste VERY carefully) into command prompt. Oh, but you are right "Guru", nexus phones are so damn hard. HAHAHAHHA!!

hopesrequiem said:
He thinks a nexus is hard to root? Seriously? He has clearly never owned an HTC device. The HTC Rezound literally had to have its circuit board shorted out to be properly rooted and have an unlocked bootloader. lol "Tap these two points once, then 1.75 seconds later tap them again. Too slow and it will reboot, too fast and it won't do anything. Just right timing will unlock the bootloader." Those were basically our instructions. OH how about the HTC Thunderbolt!! Having to type like 30 lines (or copy paste VERY carefully) into command prompt. Oh, but you are right "Guru", nexus phones are so damn hard. HAHAHAHHA!!
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FYI I have owned HTC Sensation which required similar wire trick and M8 which required $25 to S-Off. But they where not developer devices. This developer devices tells (not warns) the users that the device iz corrupt because it's bootloader is unlocked. Worse than HTC which tells that warranty is void. But I guess it's difficult to explain it to you guys. So I concede. You are right, Google is the most dev friendly organisation, nexus is the most dev friendly line of hardware and you guys are the most pro devs out here.

gururoop said:
FYI I have owned HTC Sensation which required similar wire trick and M8 which required $25 to S-Off. But they where not developer devices. This developer devices tells (not warns) the users that the device iz corrupt because it's bootloader is unlocked. Worse than HTC which tells that warranty is void. But I guess it's difficult to explain it to you guys. So I concede. You are right, Google is the most dev friendly organisation, nexus is the most dev friendly line of hardware and you guys are the most pro devs out here.
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Come on bro, tell us how big bad Google is ruining your phone because they hold your hand through building Android from source. It would make my afternoon.
Obtaining root on Marshmallow was more difficult than other versions of Android, or at least that is what the root God Chainfire has said. No one is arguing that.
Anyway, I've got more to say on this that I'll post later. It's time to go enjoy the weather and the great outdoors.
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gururoop said:
<snip>This developer devices tells (not warns) the users that the device iz corrupt because it's bootloader is unlocked.<snip>.
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"Your device can't be checked for corruption..." That's what it says, not that the device is corrupt. If you want it checked please relock the bootloader is what is suggested. Come on just admit you were wrong and move on.

gururoop said:
Merely allowing bootloaders to be unlocked does not mean that Google is developer friendly. Now, look at the ugly warnings that pop up as soon as you unlock the bootloader of bullhead. Didn't happen when I used mako. And supporting developers doesn't mean only hardware, even if you look at software, rooting has become so difficult. Earlier, it was as simple as installing a custom recovery and flashing binaries. Now, its a long story. Moreover, as soon as you root Marshmallow, certain features such as Android Pay get screwed up (although I never use those features, have read a lot of complaints about this). Do you consider these moves developer friendly? I don't.
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"mearly" allowing bootloaders to be unlocked allows a developer to do anything to the phone. You can port over Ubuntu touch to it if you wanted to because they release the binaries and such.. You can't do that so easily with other devices. So what there is a warning if you unlock the bootloader. It doesn't interfere with anything, it's just there to let say someone who isn't tech savvy with phones to know something is up. Moto has a unlocked bootloader warning as do many other manufacturers. And I have had no problems using android pay on my rooted 5x or 6p. I'm just rooted though with chainfires no system partition mod root method. I used android pay last night to get the 20 best buy gift card. Yes, they have made things more difficult from a root perspective but it's not impossible and think they needed to do this to make Android more secure. They seem to be wanting to make it more and more secure, which isn't a bad thing.. But that's not saying they are not developer friendly.. The fact that you can unlock the bootloader and pretty much flash any partition you want is not something you can do just by unlocking the bootloader. Look at HTC devices for example.. To be able to flash all the partitions you need s-off and can't do it by the traditional bootloader unlock. You have a device that you can unlock the bootloader, flash whatever you want, not lose your warranty unless you do something really stupid. Build the system from source, change the source.. That's not developer friendly!?! ? Come on..... What just because they make it harder to root now (which really isn't really that difficult if you know what you're doing which most seem to not) and they make it more secure make them not developer friendly? Again, what other phone do you know that you can take the source, change it, build it and have it work? Or port something like Ubuntu touch to it? You can't.. Other manufacturers just simply do not supply what is needed for developers to do this.. Google does supply this so developers could do this..
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Because it's only been out for 2 months. ROMs aren't built in a day, much like Rome.

ShishkaBerry said:
Because it's only been out for 2 months. ROMs aren't built in a day, much like Rome.
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Hahaha. Best answer
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