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Hi, im a bit stuck here, I have a telstra desire with their 2.1 rom, and a hboot of 0.83.0001 it seems to be able to install clockworkmod ok, and I can get into it but when I install a custom rom, after the reboot, it sticks on the telstra splash screen and vibrates 7 times. at this point if I try to boot into recovery it also does the same thing, the only way to recover is to go into fastboot and update the official telstra RUU again.
I have tried the latest Modaco rom and the latest Leedriod rom, both same effect.
this is exactly what I did to install Leedriod:
install clockworkmod from unrevoked3
copied these 2 files to SD:
32.46.00.32U_5.10.05.17_2.zip
LeeDrOiD_V2.1a_NoA2SD.zip
boot into clockworkmod, Erased Data, into advanced, erased davlik cache
install from zip > choose zip to install > chose LeeDriod > installing......
once that finished, I installed the radio, then chose reboot from the clockworkmod menu.
it rebooted and got a little picture of a box and an arrow coming out of it for a few seconds, then I got the telstra spash screen and 7 vibrates.
has anyone got any idea where im going wrong? I cant seem to find any information and im a bit of a noob to android, just defected from the world of WM (Tytn2)
ok so I have done a little bit of trial and error, turns out my problem is the radio.
Tried 2 different radio roms, both end up stopping the phone from booting at all. must be something different to the hardware in this new desire that needs a special radio rom maybe?
jayme,
You've likely hit the nail on the head with your issue. Telstra models of the Desire (8183) use a different set of radio hardware. Telstra runs their own 'Next G' network, which is a different frequency network to the rest of the world.
This frequency (850Mhz) requires different hardware to be installed on the phone, which is why the Telstra version of the phone will only ever work on the Telstra network.
My suggestion would be to find a rom that supports the 850Mhz network, using a compatible radio module. Failing that you may have to learn how to build your own.
Good luck.
I actually installed the leedriod froyo rom fine and it works as long as I leave the original radio module untouched, but then I get the stability issues associated with running earlier radios on froyo. what im wondering is what are all these other telstra users running custom froyo roms using for their radio. ive read guides taht say which radio to install on a telstra desire and mine just doesnt work with those versions.
I may have to wait for the official telstra 2.2. update and the compatible radio rom that comes with it
Waiting sounds like your only option. I bought an unbranded phone to use on the Optus network. Thankfully Froyo 2.2 came out a few weeks back, and I'm quite happy with it.
Waiting can be a pain in the arse and considering how long this country has to wait for things from Telstra, getting 2.2 might be a belated Christmas present next year...
Good luck with whatever you chose.
Try teppic74's Rom here <forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=773997>.
I had full success and converted my Telstra branded Desire into generic HTC Desire.
NextG functionality was not affected by flashing teppic74's Rom with the Radio.
Cheers
Wow... so many people commenting that the Telstra (A8183) requires different radios etc...
Wrong.
I bought a Telstra A8183 and rooted it, installed clockworkMod, then have installed several versions of Leedroid through 2.1a, and have recently also applied the S-OFF hack and changed the splashscreen.
I've also flashed about 4 different radios up to the latest as of today without any problems.
My particular phone is an AMOLED model and came with HBOOT 0.75 - however many people with different versions of the HBOOT (anbd including SLCD) with the Tesltra hardware have successfully upgraded.
Sorry I don't know what your particular problem could be - but it's not something specific to all Tesltra A8183 Desires.
Cheers - N
Hi there. Another telstra desire user here. I've had mine since July, amoled and hboot 0.83. I rooted soon after getting it and have run roms from t-mod and cyanogen from whirlpool.net.au. it's. A great place to start and lots of awesome advice too. I wouldn't be here if not for muskier, Bog, and s-murphy. They have links to radio and roms there. Good luck.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
Sorry I meant to spell muskie and Bof.
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well turns out the 2 radios I flashed happen to be the 2 radios my phoen wont boot with. both of them have _2 at the end. all the rest seem to work fine, I have since updated to the latest radio and im a happy froyo user. as for t-mod, wtf is the point of it lol, my UAstring is not the special telstra one and everything works fine, even data usage
talkiet said:
Wow... so many people commenting that the Telstra (A8183) requires different radios etc...
Wrong.
I bought a Telstra A8183 and rooted it, installed clockworkMod, then have installed several versions of Leedroid through 2.1a, and have recently also applied the S-OFF hack and changed the splashscreen.
I've also flashed about 4 different radios up to the latest as of today without any problems.
My particular phone is an AMOLED model and came with HBOOT 0.75 - however many people with different versions of the HBOOT (anbd including SLCD) with the Tesltra hardware have successfully upgraded.
Sorry I don't know what your particular problem could be - but it's not something specific to all Tesltra A8183 Desires.
Cheers - N
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What radio are you running?
How did you do the S-OFF hack? I really want to get rid of the splashscreen...
talkiet said:
Wow... so many people commenting that the Telstra (A8183) requires different radios etc...
Wrong.
I bought a Telstra A8183 and rooted it, installed clockworkMod, then have installed several versions of Leedroid through 2.1a, and have recently also applied the S-OFF hack and changed the splashscreen.
I've also flashed about 4 different radios up to the latest as of today without any problems.
My particular phone is an AMOLED model and came with HBOOT 0.75 - however many people with different versions of the HBOOT (anbd including SLCD) with the Tesltra hardware have successfully upgraded.
Sorry I don't know what your particular problem could be - but it's not something specific to all Tesltra A8183 Desires.
Cheers - N
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+1 to talkiet...
I've had about 15 different ROMS and maybe 8 radios on my telstra desire, never had a problem. (mine is the AMOLED version originally HBOOT .75 now .93 version). The only thing that sometimes goes wrong is the APN settings and thats easy to fix.
I'm not sure how all those UA strings work, but to be honest i've not bothered checking my data usage or so on for a fair while, and the Bigpond unmetered sites are pretty worthless anyway. I never go over and I play around with the phone a lot. So, you can put pretty much any ROM on and just tweak the APNs a bit and no worries!
concerning S_OFF,
its not hard to do at all. just follow the instructions on the alpharev site to the letter, I was worried about bricking my phone, same as the first time I put a custom ROM on there, but if you do your homework, you'll be sweet. When you think about it, the S-OFF process is pretty safe as so many people do it and have a look about, there's not many saying they have ruined their phone using the S-OFF program.
The only thing i've actually broken on my phone over the last year is the sd card (very recently), trying to reformat it for data to ext ROM. Of course it was a cheap one and the card that came with the phone (samsung brand i think) worked fine when i formatted it and stuck it in.
Phone: Desire A8183 AMOLED S-OFF
HBOOT .93 and CWM 3.x
ROM: Crystal Kingdom v0.2 D2EXT+ (damo is a legend!!)
htc a8183 show welcom and vibrating
how to s-off this phone
hboot-0.75.0000
radio-4.50.00.11
any one help me
For all of you having branded phones, go to htc dev site and download 2.3 RUU and flash it. You will get 0.93 hboot and newer radio plus the phone will be debranded, because 2.3 upgrade is made for all versions: amoled, slcd...
After that s-off and root is very easy, use revolutionary and you will have everything...
Sent from my HTC Desire via flashes and thunders
nlooooo said:
For all of you having branded phones, go to htc dev site and download 2.3 RUU and flash it. You will get 0.93 hboot and newer radio plus the phone will be debranded, because 2.3 upgrade is made for all versions: amoled, slcd...
After that s-off and root is very easy, use revolutionary and you will have everything...
Sent from my HTC Desire via flashes and thunders
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lol u should just make ur own post about this coz this is about the 5th time uv told some1 bout the 2.3 ruu
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jmcclue said:
lol u should just make ur own post about this coz this is about the 5th time uv told some1 bout the 2.3 ruu
Sent from my HTC Desire
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For me it's the easiest way to upload radio and hboot, get s-off with revolutionary then root and you're open to all possibilities...
That RUU is simply made for all Desires, no brick issues, no radio compatibility issues...
Hi folks,
I have a question for you.
I have just received my T-Mobile G2 HTC Android phone.
I am so happy i it, but I so get used to HTC Sense ROM. And for sometime I am returning to Belarus.
Here is my steps.
1. Make device SuperCID.
2. Unlock, so I could you use Belarussian SIM cards.
3. Flash Desire Z stock rom.
4. Done
But here is a question:
Is it safe to flash Desire Z ROM to T-mobile G2.
As I could guess, they have different radio images (US and Europe) or I might be wrong?
Do not post questions in the DEVELOPMENT section, use QnA or General next time!!!!!
*AFAIK*.... If you are super CID + full radio s-off then you can use RUU's from other regions. But why bother. stick to custom and carry on flashing through recovery.
also,... Radios can be used in other regions than those intended by HTC, for instance some people are using the radio from the Egypt ROM in the UK will noticeable improvement in signal.
The radio images are not a problem.
The only thing I'm unsure about is the way the G2 and DZ are partitioned differently. This isn't a problem for custom ROMs, but if you flash a complete ROM/RUU it will include the hboot too. So I would love to know if you can flash the hboot too and that will mean your partitioning will be adjusted, or whether perhaps flashing the wrong hboot will brick your phone. Though I am not asking you to experiment for me, because of the risk involved !
I wouldn't have thought the ROM flash would actually re-partition the storage, but I'd be interested to find out.
Sent from my HTC Desire Z
wileykat said:
Do not post questions in the DEVELOPMENT section, use QnA or General next time!!!!!
*AFAIK*.... If you are super CID + full radio s-off then you can use RUU's from other regions. But why bother. stick to custom and carry on flashing through recovery.
also,... Radios can be used in other regions than those intended by HTC, for instance some people are using the radio from the Egypt ROM in the UK will noticeable improvement in signal.
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Is there is any Custom ROM for DZ, that I can simply apply for G2?
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Is there is any Custom ROM for DZ, that I can simply apply for G2?
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As far as I am aware, none of the custom ROMs are specific, and any of them should work fine on the G2 and DZ. So you should find some Sense custom ROMs in the dev forum that you can use, if that's what you want.
Sent from my HTC Desire Z
As you guys know Virtuous Unity will require the desire z eng hboot to work from now on and I just have a couple of quick questions
1. If I ever wanted to Unroot my G2 could I just follow the unrooting process as usual, or do I have to revert to the G2 ENG Hboot??
2. Does anyone have a PC10IMG.zip file, which contains the G2 Engineering HBOOT
.... I understand how to do the procedure... looks pretty easy, just like to know that there's a way back you know...
I'm not 100% sure, but I think you would have to revert to G2 hboot if unrooting.
There's download links for the hboot's in the wiki, as well as md5 sums.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD
-Nipqer
I'm am also thinking about going to the DZ hboot. Did you ever switch?
I switched a few weeks ago and haven't noticed any differences in performance or otherwise.
As I understand, the only difference is the partition table - I'm still using the Tmo radio.
Hi guys also girls maybe
I am going to use the excuse of being female Haha no excuse for anything i know
After having a "Desire" i was able to root that just so i could use Aps2SD to move my apps. yada yada lol I never had the nerve to attempt to install Custom Rom.
Since that went wrong a couple weeks back i purchased a tada "HTC DHD"
I have been reading my eyes sore for the past week on how too:
1.root the DHD=success Ace Hack Brilliant
2.The Plunge..install Custom Rom.. RCMix3D"LOVE IT" using RomManager.
3. Radios-kernals etc
Now my questiones
Q.1
Having read so much about roms. Am i to believe in the later versions of the Roms.aka RCMix3D v4.0..
Do these already include the suitable radio-kernal etc?
If the latter versions do,does this applie to earlier version?
Q.2
Before i installed RCMix3D i did a rom backup of my stock rom using RomManager.
If for any stupid known reason i needed to revert back to stock. Is it a simple case of restoring the back up? Would this do the radio etc?
Also when it comes up on the backup saying the "date-time"etc can i rename the back up to easely reconise it?
Q.3
As the DHD didnt come with a SDcard i used a 2Gb i had laying about spare.Titchy size i know..
As i have now got a Kingston 32Gb "Size Does Matter "
Is it possible to transfer all the files off the 2Gb card onto my laptop then onto the 32Gb, Then inserting the 32Gb into the DHD with out any problems arrising due to a differant SdCard?
This information maybe on the forum but work is killer so im sorry for appearing lazy
Thanks to every 1 at XDA and the followers for the help in advance..
Regards Nikki
1) all roms come with the kernal. Radios are independent and would be up to you if you wanted to flash it
2) yes on both. You can name it whatever your heart desires. And restoring is as easy as hitting restore in cwr
3) yes
ok thanks. nice quick reply. all i needed to know for now
Hi - on 2), ROM Manager has an option to rename the backups - use that, don't rename it using a File Explorer app.
I'm not 100% sure if it's still the case, but in the past, on older versions of ROM Manager and CWM, if I renamed the backup inside ROM Manager it was fine. If I renamed it manually then it wouldn't restore correctly. Probably something to do with the checksums.
Also, the backup doesn't include the radio. So if you change the radio, and want to revert, you'll need to flash the previous radio back separately.
Hope that helps.
How can I check the radio I am on? On fast boot?
I havnt flashed a different one yet so hope I can make a note of mine.
Thanks
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In Android it's in Settings/About Phone/Software Inforrmation - then the exact screen depends on your ROM version. Look for "Baseband".
In the bootloader/fastboot, it's the 4th line down. Mine says
"Radio-26.14.04.28_M"
Got mine from fastboot.
Radio-26.10.04.03_M
Thanks for the reply.
Is there any other stuff I should note down before delving deeper into roms etc
Thanks
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Most ROMs include everything but the radio, so everything else is covered.
The only other thing that might be worth checking is the hboot version, on the same screen that you got the radio version from. I can't think of many times when you'd need it, but if you ever apply Eng S-Off, which replaces the hboot, you might want to know what version the phone originally came with. It's unlikely but can't hurt.
Incidentally, the best way to revert to stock (for example if you have to send the phone back for repairs), is to flash an RUU, and that includes everything - ROM, radio, hboot, the lot.
So I'd say you're fine.
Thanks again for the useful information
I have Eng S-OFF so i guess cant check my oringinal one? Unless is a way too do this.
Also apparently i dont have ENG Bootloader. When i tried flashing a new splash screen. Is this easily available?
Thanks..
Sorry to ask, but are you sure your phone has Eng S-Off? There are two types of S-Off, Radio S-Off and Eng S-Off. Eng S-Off completely replaces the standard hboot with a special engineering hboot, that removes a lot of security. One of the things it does is allow you to use fastboot commands to flash things like rRadios and splash screens.
If you have Eng S-Off, on the bootloader screen the first line will say
"ACE PVT ENG S-OFF"
and the hboot version is
HBOOT-0.85.2007
If you have this version, you have the engineering hboot (or bootloader) and should be able to flash a splash screen.
If it says "ACE PVT SHIP S-OFF" then you only have Radio S-Off, which allows you to flash custom ROMs, but not to flash anything that uses the fastboot.exe to flash, such as radios and splashes.
If you don't have Eng S-Off yet, check this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855403
(You don't need to run Visionary before the tool if you already have a custom ROM with root.)
But be careful if you have an Inspire 4G (as opposed to a Desire HD), as the Eng S-Off method causes issues with some newer Inspires.
Oh. Mine says ace pvt ship s-off.
I assumed I had done everything when I used the ace hack.
I assume I have DHD lol
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Thanks for the link ) made my DHD ENG S-OFF in seconds.. Now i can apply some splash screens
you are a star.
Excellent, glad you got it working. Have fun customising your phone even more!
BTW the Inspire 4G is a variant of the DHD made by HTC for the AT&T network, and I'm sure you'd know if you had an Inspire rather than a DHD. They're almost the same phone, but there are just a few minor hardware differences. Many ROMs are made to work on both models, so a lot of the Inspire users frequent the DHD forums as well as the Inspire ones, and I always like to just double check in cases where the technical advice might vary.
Dum question but what differences between the two are there?
If you know that is lol.
Or a way I can check.
Thanks
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ndbubbles said:
Dum question but what differences between the two are there?
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In most important ways they're identical. The biggest difference is that the Inspire 4G has an AT&T logo on the back.
The Inspire also has more internal memory, but it can only access the same amount of RAM as the DHD. I think there is also a small difference in the audio hardware, which is automatically detected by most custom ROMs during initial flashing, so that the correct sound files can be installed.
Plus the Inspire has (I think) a different transmitter, due to the differences between the worldwide 3G networks and the AT&T one in the USA:
DHD:
HSPA/WCDMA: 900/2100 MHz
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
http://www.htc.com/www/smartphones/htc-desire-hd/#specs
Inspire 4G:
HSPA+: 850/1900 MHz
GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
http://www.htc.com/us/products/inspire-att#tech-specs
Then there's the Telus DHD sold in Canada (and possibly NZ?), which I think is like an Inspire but with the same amount of RAM as the standard DHD. Confused yet?
http://www.telusmobility.com/en/BC/htc_desire_hd/index.shtml
Just adding my. 2 cents.
Both the inspire and dhd are the same outside of the 3g frequencies and inspire having a dual Mic plus. Everything else is eseentially the same with sutle difference like the audio files and touchscreen(atmel vs synaptics)
The internal memory looks to be more on the inspire but its not its just how att markets it. The phone has 4gb rom, BUT only 1.5 is user accessible just like the dhd. So technically its not lying just spinning the truth.
Thanks for the input.
I checked mine its definetly a DHD not inspire )
Won't of mattered but good to know I have what I paid for.
Thanks guys.
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Hi.
Just a quick question. After flashing ARHD and RcMIX and cyanogen rom im stuck with the kernal from RcMix now im on cyanogen it is not running to smooth.
How do I go about including the kernal for each rom?
As I thought the roms included them.
I do complete wipe but still doesn't remove.
Thanks for any info and help
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Roms do include the kernal or they wouldn't boot. If the old kernal stayed your phone wouldn't of booted up on cm. Maybe it was a bad flash? When you wipe did you do a full? Data/system/cache/dalvik?
Also why do you feel it didn't remove it? In about phone what's it say for kernal?
I did actually think they contained them. I did a cache-dalvik wipe also using ARHD super wipe. In phone info says Rcmix kernal etc.
Maybe it has not updated the info.
I actually think it is the radio affecting the wifi.
As I have not changed this from the original radio as im scared of bricking the DHD
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Hmm that's interesting. I would say rewipe and flash again. Also for cm I personally recommend lordclockans kernal.
To flashing radios its not as scary as it seems but caution should be taken. If you do decide to flash a new radio just make sure to check the md5sum for file inegrity
okay so i've been given a used g2/desire z but the problem is i cannot figure out if it's a g2 or a desire z because no where on the phone it says t mobile but the back plate has a g2 carved on it (the back could have been replaced). Now i looked at some pics of the G2 it clearly says t-mobile on top It's running froyo 2.2 with the build number of 0.90.xxx.x. This stopped me from rooting the phone since i didn't have a way of finding out what this damned thing is. Secondly i tried checking for updates it keeps searching for updates and nothing happens and thirdly if it's a g2 it must be unlocked cause i'm using an other carriers sim. There is no HTC Sense on the phone no shining suns no flip clock or is it just that the version is so old that sense wasn't invented yet ?plus if i went ahead with the desire z method of rooting if what i have is a g2 would i brick my phone ?
I had the same question they are the same the DZ is the international version of the G2 it has a little more memory I believe. And all roms are safe to flash on either device. Some roms like sense need to have the DZ hboot. Simple to install and it gives you a little more ram which is needed for certain roms
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the only real difference is the stock rom and the hboot/spl
boot on your phone and see what hboot you have (hold volume down while powering on) and you will know if its considered a g2 or dz
there isnt more ram in the dz just a larger partition for the system which is needed to flash certain roms (sense) it truley wont matter which one you have now and you will only need to change the hboot from g2 to dz if you want these roms. there would be no reason to change from dz hboot to g2.
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okay so i've been given a used g2/desire z but the problem is i cannot figure out if it's a g2 or a desire z because no where on the phone it says t mobile but the back plate has a g2 carved on it (the back could have been replaced). Now i looked at some pics of the G2 it clearly says t-mobile on top It's running froyo 2.2 with the build number of 0.90.xxx.x. This stopped me from rooting the phone since i didn't have a way of finding out what this damned thing is. Secondly i tried checking for updates it keeps searching for updates and nothing happens and thirdly if it's a g2 it must be unlocked cause i'm using an other carriers sim. There is no HTC Sense on the phone no shining suns no flip clock or is it just that the version is so old that sense wasn't invented yet ?plus if i went ahead with the desire z method of rooting if what i have is a g2 would i brick my phone ?
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(QUOTE) there isnt more ram in the dz just a larger partition for the system which is needed to flash certain roms (sense)
Thanks my bad that's what I meant to say.
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so i checked my bootloader and the hboot version is 0.78.1000 now as Pnut pointed me to this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=26990743&postcount=2 where the say this 0.76.2000>G2 so am i right in assuming that what i have is the G2 and it is safe to go ahead with this method of rooting http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/TMobile_G2:_Rooting ?
it would be safe even if you had the dz. if you want to understand the phones a bit more look @ the xda wiki on the vision, just go to wiki tab on the top of the screen, the htc phones on the right find the g2/dz aka vision. you ll understand more, same guide for rooting as cyanogens but more of an explanation
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so i read the wiki as you said demkantor and i came to the hboot part so here's what it is
1.1. engineering hboot
Download the appropriate HBOOT for your phone:
T-Mobile G2: vision.hboot-0.76.2000.zip (md5sum 7669AE12DC2FAA10AE555A164980EFD0)
HTC Desire Z: vision.hboot-0.84.2000.zip (md5sum 2CE1BDD5E4C1119CCFCECB938710D742)
Note that the md5sums are for the actual hboot img contained within the zip file, not the for the zip file itself. Note also that the dz, g2, and dhd each use their own version of the engineering boot, as the phones are partitioned differently. (If you have previously installed the wrong HBOOT for your phone, you may need to reflash everything after partition 18 .
According to this it's my choice on which hboot version i want to flash ?
well if you like sense roms id go dz as you have the larger system partition otherwise go with g2, its not a big deal so long as you flash a rom afterwards. this will not cause a brick but if you change your emmc partition the current rom will not be able to boot after you are rooted. thats ok you want to flash a new rom anyhow.
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