Obvious GB Question - Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

maybe this is only me but having installed the update and put all my apps back on the phone I can't actually see a single new feature.
So after a lot of shouting and moaning about on here after HTC said yes then no then yes again, what did we actually get in return for all the waiting etc?

For the average consumer no but for developers and users if custom roms yes
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The user got nothing at all. HTC even said in the RUU that it was for developers.

Probably the biggest benefit of gingerbread over froyo ( apart from a general performance upgrade) is an improved apps to SD. Now with GB more of the app is moved to the SD card saving more internal memory space.

am i wrong in saying that after flashing the GB RUU that u have now lost root? (if u had it to start with)

That's correct, also you cannot root it at the moment because RUU updated hboot version which is now unsupported by unrevoked.
bigpeet666 said:
am i wrong in saying that after flashing the GB RUU that u have now lost root? (if u had it to start with)
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[Q] Issues with Rooted LeeDroid 2.0a_A2SD+

I've had my Desire (Bravo) for a long while now and I've been using the LeeDroid Rom's ever since Froyo was released and T-Mobile weren't forthcoming with a 2.2 of their own.
I've recently recieved an OTA from what I can only assume is T-Mobile with their 2.2 release.
when trying to install it, it had signature errors. I then disabled Signiture auth in the clockwork recovery settings, then it had assert errors.
i'm not sure what i'm doing wrong or if i can actually load this OTA rom at all?
I guess my question is.. how easy is it for me to return my Desire to stock? I've been having recurring issues with downloads and updates from the market refusing to download successfully etc and its starting to annoy me.
Whilst waiting for this reply i'm going to do a full wipe of my phone and install the LeeDroid 2.2f_A2SD to see how that goes.
Many thanks to any of you that help/suggest.
NOTE: yes i have looked at the unroot section in the guide in this forum but I am not completely savvy with the Goldcard thing. (I've never had need to use one before)
You can't install OTA updates on a custom ROM, they are only applicable to stock ROMs
To go back to stock, download this RUU and just run it with HTC Sync showing connected on your PC:
http://shipped-roms.com/download.ph...00.28U_4.06.00.02_2_release_127570_signed.exe
Once done, you should be prompted to get the OTA updates. This WILL wipe your phone, mind
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You can't install OTA updates on a custom ROM, they are only applicable to stock ROMs
To go back to stock, download this RUU and just run it with HTC Sync showing connected on your PC:
http://shipped-roms.com/download.ph...00.28U_4.06.00.02_2_release_127570_signed.exe
Once done, you should be prompted to get the OTA updates. This WILL wipe your phone, mind
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Many thanks Eddy, This clears it up a little for me. Though I'm abit apprehensive to do this as i hear some RUU's disable the ability to root?
you cant get ota updates if your phone is rooted.
in order to get your phone back to be not rooted you need to install using RUU.
but I dont recomend on doing that, because if the ota update was importent enough thay would put it on the next rom, just download a new rom, maybe AuraxTSense
For some people, custom ROMs just aren't that important - me being one of them
Same for me, I'm not that bothered about having a custom ROM if T-Mobile have now released a valid 2.2
Sooner or later you will be disappointed, as froyo doesn't solve the low memory problem at all...
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eh? what low memory problem? Froyo is much faster and stable than the 1.6. the 1.6 suffered if you have more than 3 apps open. froyo only seems to suffer once you have more than 10?
Agree, but not comparing 1.6 to 2.2.
Saying "disappointed" I thought about the 135mb available to install applications on Desire - try to install Navigon, some Gameloft games and you are done.
Thing is that although having Froyo a2sd the memory is shrinking very fast.
ahh yes, I agree with you there, though I do beleive you should be able to set a auto install to SD if available. you can get rather large if abiet expensive SD cards nowdays so should alleviate those problems.
musiccontrolsus said:
ahh yes, I agree with you there, though I do beleive you should be able to set a auto install to SD if available. you can get rather large if abiet expensive SD cards nowdays so should alleviate those problems.
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But not all apps can be moved to the SD card through FroYo A2SD. It depends on where the developer of the app wants it to be. But with A2SD+ available on many custom ROMs, all user apps will be installed in the SD card.

Flashing with pvt4 and 0.93

Ok so i am pretty confused, i have rooted my phone. But not got S-OFF because of it being pvt4. Does this mean i cant flash a custom ROM?
I really wanna flash this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829734
Also, is it essential i have to make a goldcard?
HTC Desire 2.2 (Rooted) On TMOBILE UK with PVT4 and HBOOT 0.93
SeanBond said:
Ok so i am pretty confused, i have rooted my phone. But not got S-OFF because of it being pvt4. Does this mean i cant flash a custom ROM?
I really wanna flash this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829734
Also, is it essential i have to make a goldcard?
HTC Desire 2.2 (Rooted) On TMOBILE UK with PVT4 and HBOOT 0.93
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Is your device PVT4 old (20000) or PVT4 new (40000)?
Read this thread to find out how to check this - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=853583
You shouldn't have any problems rooting and flashing custom ROMs if your device has a PVT4 20000 erasesize. Use unrEVOked v3.22, safe and best successful method so far.
If your PVT4 has an erasesize of 40000, then i know of only of certain number of ROMs that have been confirmed to work with this type of device - Oxygen, LeeDroid's, ReflexTSenseHD, and MIUI.
You should not have a problem flashing any of these custom ROMs with the modified CWM-AlphaRev Recovery 2.5.1.3, which you must install with unrEVOked if your phone has an erasesize of 40000
As you were originally branded to T-Mobile, you will need to create a Gold Card only if you want to revert back to your original stock ROM (i.e. later on for warranty reasons). You should be able to find your original RUU by searching shipped-roms.com.
Thanks for the detailed reply!
I dont really care about the warrenty thing etc, and i could always do that later i guess.
Ill have a check now on what it is.
So will apps2sd still work etc?
EDIT:
Ok, i have checked and i have 2000! YUPPEEEE!
I have already rooted with unrEVOked, does this mean that i need to again? i also have clockwork
A2SD+/Data2SD will work fine for you and since you are already rooted, you will not need to re-root or reinstall clockwork either. Flash away in confidence
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Awesome, do i need to make a partition to do a2sd? and does it matter i dont have S-OFF?
Cheers for the help man
Yes you will need to, all custom roms require this prerequisite really. You can use Rom Manager to achieve this, it allows you to create up to an SD-EXT size of 512 MB for dedicated app data space. If you require a bigger EXT partition use AmonRa and flash with unrevoked, or use GParted - there are plenty guides on the forum on how to do this.
Yes, you dont need s-off, unless you want full root access to your phone.
Edit: sorry for the delay in replying... still trying to get use to swype.
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Not too bothered about full root tbh, aslong as i have a2sd.
Cheers for the help mate
Then you are good to go after you make your ext partition
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Just backing up my SD card now, the only thing i will miss is the sence clock
I don't use that clock anymore, nor do I use sense UI... I'm a fully fledged miui convert
If you want the sense clock, search the marketplace for 'sense clock widget', there are many variations - customisable too
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Yeah ill have a look, i might look at some other options too.
I <3 the clock though, its actually one of the reasons i got an HTC lol
SeanBond said:
Yeah ill have a look, i might look at some other options too.
I <3 the clock though, its actually one of the reasons i got an HTC lol
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Well if that's your thing then by all means, go for it
I totally understand where you are coming from though... I used to love sense ui and everything it had to offer but once I tried miui, I was amazed at how good it actually was/is, running out of superlatives for it
You could also give the DHD roms a go (ported from Desire HD), as they include the cool new sense features.
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Sorry for hijacking the thread, I've read the discussion so far but I have a question, it seems SeanBond did not debrand b4 rooting and went ahead to install a custom rom. Pls can I do same as I'm presently using a O2 branded phone, do advise me
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scorror said:
Sorry for hijacking the thread, I've read the discussion so far but I have a question, it seems SeanBond did not debrand b4 rooting and went ahead to install a custom rom. Pls can I do same as I'm presently using a O2 branded phone, do advise me
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No need to apologise and its good that you are making the effort to ask before a mistake is made, so i appreciate that.
He did debrand by using unrEVOked - it does not require you to use a Gold Card for it and provides you with root access (software root) to the phone. Only when you want to return to stock rom, you then you will need to create and use a Gold Card before running the appropriate RUU. If you want to create a Gold Card, use the one in my sig below.
Thanks. Do I need to create a gold card first b4 installing a custom rom or when I want to return to stock. Or if I'm on custom rom it's possible to still create a gold card thereafter
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Yeah i didnt make a goldcard.
Was pretty easy, flashed right from ROM manager.
scorror said:
Thanks. Do I need to create a gold card first b4 installing a custom rom or when I want to return to stock. Or if I'm on custom rom it's possible to still create a gold card thereafter
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You have two options here.
If you are branded and want to root in order to install a custom ROM, then you either create a Gold Card to unlock the phone's CID, just use unrEVOked, which does not require the creation of a Gold Card and provides you with root access to your phone, thus allowing you to flash custom roms, custom kernels, and custom radios. I don't know the full workings of unrEVOked, but it bypassed your phones CID lock feature and does not require you to create a Gold Card.
You only need to create a Gold Card if you want to return to stock rom as you were originally network branded.
How do they know? there is nothing visual that shows its branded?
SeanBond said:
How do they know? there is nothing visual that shows its branded?
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Software branding, for instance, when you boot the phone, it will show your network carrier splashscreen, like T-Mobile, or 02, or Orange. Also, their own icons will also be visible on the homescreen, for example.

How to Downgrade to Froyo after installing HTC Stock Gingerbread

friend need help i installed HTC Gingerbread which the up on developer website on 1st of aug. now i want to downgrade it to stock froyo.
how to do?
help
You should had to ask this in your mind before flashing an RUU that contain an hboot update!
At the moment there is no way, u can wait that unrevoked or alpharev found a solution, if they care
andQlimax said:
You should had to ask this in your mind before flashing an RUU that contain an hboot update!
At the moment there is no way, u can wait that unrevoked or alpharev found a solution, if they care
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Well, the only way is rooting/S-OFF and installing a 2.2 ROM right?
riahc3 said:
Well, the only way is rooting/S-OFF and installing a 2.2 ROM right?
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Yes but the problem is that you can't root or s-off if you have installed stock Gingerbread. That's what andQlimax was trying to suggest.
I have same issue with lovalim, so I pray everyday that unrevoked or alpharev can save us......
unrevoked or alpharev, please help!!!
Worry !
So folks here .. does that mean GB upgrade should be done only once i have taken sufficient reviews and made up mind for the same.
Guys is the upgrade not worth it!!! i heard the memory available will reduce to something like 128mb but i heard there are better abilities to move applications to SD card.
Is it true??? is any once facing serious disappointments after the upgarde?
I am kinda waiting for responses !
So folks here .. does that mean GB upgrade should be done only once i have taken sufficient reviews and made up mind for the same.
Guys is the upgrade not worth it!!! i heard the memory available will reduce to something like 128mb but i heard there are better abilities to move applications to SD card.
Is it true??? is any once facing serious disappointments after the upgarde?
I am kinda waiting for responses !
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Why don't you install a pre rooted version? Then your hboot won't be upgraded and you can return to froyo if necessary.
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Well i m looking at installing the Stock GB via RUU from HTC.. which now i dont think will be favourable for me after the responses !
I had contacted the HTC Support to ask the query regarding the downgrade possibility. The support guy has informed that this HTC Stock GB upgarde is some sorta special upgrade and hence it seems they will rollback my device incase i m not happy ..
" We informed you that after upgrading your HTC Desire to Android 2.3 Gingerbread, if you wish to again move for Android 2.2 Froyo you may visit our service center and get your device downgraded to Android 2.2 Froyo. "
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Since i m a newbie i have a doubt, does that mean there is no hboot upgarde happening ..
Looking forward to further thots from all the geniuses here !!
No there is an hboot upgrade, I think it just means only they can downgrade it for you which is why you have to take it to their service centre.
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i hope that they can find solution to root the phone cuz the new GB is not good and it's not support Arabic language and the available space is not enough to install application and allot of things
and i read this news about rooting the new GB http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1209243
i don't know is this's true or not
thnx for all
Just read on a dutch forum that the unrevoked / alpharev guys will release a new version of their root/s-off tool, probably next week, with support for the desire new hboot! http://revolutionary.io/
The dutch forum post: http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_message/36540480#36540480
lovalim said:
Just read on a dutch forum that the unrevoked / alpharev guys will release a new version of their root/s-off tool, probably next week, with support for the desire new hboot! http://revolutionary.io/
The dutch forum post: http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_message/36540480#36540480
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Thanx man , how accurate is this info?
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i was thinking of doing this too,what is wrong with it,why do people not like it,2.3 has a force to SD card function so memory shouldnt be a problem,a review would be great so i can make a decision,does it affect your SMS and MMS like they said it might? and if this does stuff up then how else could i get it rolled back as i live in australia and have no idea where a service center is,i would have to go to my Telstra store to have it sent in which case im not sure if it is covered by warranty?
Service centre for sydney is fonebiz rokdale
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At the moment there is no way to have it rolled back, it'll change your boot animation so telstra will most likely notice that you don't have their official rom on it therefore voiding your warranty. I think the main reason people don't like it is that once its installed you can no longer root your phone so you're stuck with it. Also, I'm not sure how great the stock force to sd feature would be.
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i thought my warranty goes through HTC? at least thats what i was told? if its a ROM by HTC why would it void their own warranty? well is it that bad that ppl want to go back to froyo? or is it coz they just want to complain or what? what is the actual difference that makes it a poor upgrade,and how come u dont think the force SD would be good?
Not so great, better to flash custom rom.
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my desire dosent like to root for some strange reason,ive tried a bunch of times with no luck so this is kinda my only option
what is force to sd?
where do i find it on my desire please?

low memory on desire after 2.3.3 update?

not sure if its just me but since i updated to 2.3.3 from htc i always have an idicator saying you have low memory :/ i only have 2 apps installed from the market and they are both on the sd card , anyone an idea how to fix this? thanks
only thing to suggest is root your desire and flash a custom rom that has A2SD+/data2sd support, for that check the development section
i would but theres no root for 2.3.3 just yet (i think)
Im not sure if there is either, have you tried any? you might have to tough it out then, theres nothin to suggest from me
ive searched and searched but no.joy :/
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nope, not possible to root or S-OFF, so you're pretty much screwed for flashing that garbage in the first place for now.

Stock Rom..

Hi guys quick q for the devs...just got my desire back from being repaired and I'm actually happy with the speed and stability of the stock Rom yet still suffering from the low memory...was wondering if I root it again is there a script I can run to get aps2sd and still keep my stock Rom as I only want the extra space ?
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You could try to get DarkTremor working. That's the only script I know of tbh. You could do a quick search.
Simply run the revoluntionary program and get S-OFF & Root. (without flashing a new ROM)
You'll keep the stock rom, but with the added perk of having A2SD, being able to do nandroid backups, underclock/overclock, etc etc.
I did this for my old HTC Desire, and also my new HTC EVO 3D, works like a treat.
bailz2506 said:
Hi guys quick q for the devs...just got my desire back from being repaired and I'm actually happy with the speed and stability of the stock Rom yet still suffering from the low memory...was wondering if I root it again is there a script I can run to get aps2sd and still keep my stock Rom as I only want the extra space ?
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Baadnwz already made a version of the stock 2.3 that allows you to use your SD as supplemental memory. Check it out !

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