[Q] low memory on gingerbread - G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello guys
i recently updated to gingerbread (thru RUU - official rom release)
soon after that i started getting 'memory low' warnings, and when i check i have very very little free RAM (like about 10 mb). this happens when i open like 2 or 3 apps (say market, browser and skype or so), soon when the memory runs out android kills htc sense which is so annoying because when i hit the home button i have to wait for the sense to start which takes a while.
now i notice that i only get about 320megs of ram reported to the system (i read somewhere that thats normal behaviour)
does any of you experience the same problem and do you have any solution to this situation?

Hi, I experienced the very same issue when I flashed the ota update and searched around a bit for a fix. However I couldn't find one.
If you are already rooted * or feel comfortable rooting your phone, I'd suggest trying out the virtuous sense 2.0 rom. It's based on the ota gingerbread update and includes several enhancements (i.e. a littler overclocking, tp wake and more). Most importantly though, after flashing that there have been no more reloads.
*this is obviously nonsense, since the official update doesn't come with root, sorry

I think im quite ready to root the phone now, but ive got lots of work to do and no time atm ...
is rooting already possible on desire z running 2.3.3?

Yes, root for stock gingerbread has been achieved just a little while back.
Have a look at the AMT v1.8.5 thread in the development section. It's about a tool that's supposed to simplify the rooting process and, as far as I know, works on gingerbread too. Or look up one of the guides for doing it manually.
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thomas_wlc said:
Yes, root for stock gingerbread has been achieved just a little while back.
Have a look at the AMT v1.8.5 thread in the development section. It's about a tool that's supposed to simplify the rooting process and, as far as I know, works on gingerbread too. Or look up one of the guides for doing it manually.
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You need to read a little more dude..please don't give information you aren't sure of. There is NO permroot for gingerbread after the update or there would be a thread dedicated to it
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Spastic909 said:
You need to read a little more dude..please don't give information you aren't sure of. There is NO permroot for gingerbread after the update or there would be a thread dedicated to it
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First off, I'd like to apologize for my previous post as that probably left the impression, that you could just achieve root on your existing gingerbread build. This really isn't possible.
What I meant to point out is, that using the AMT tool should allow you to gain temp root (or so the op claims). After gaining temp root you have to downgrade your phone to 1.34, where you can finally get perm root.
Please do correct me if I am still mistaken. Just trying to help out.
Edit: This appears to be the thread dedicated to it: Guide

thomas_wlc said:
First off, I'd like to apologize for my previous post as that probably left the impression, that you could just achieve root on your existing gingerbread build. This really isn't possible.
What I meant to point out is, that using the AMT tool should allow you to gain temp root (or so the op claims). After gaining temp root you have to downgrade your phone to 1.34, where you can finally get perm root.
Please do correct me if I am still mistaken. Just trying to help out.
Edit: This appears to be the thread dedicated to it: Guide
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So in reality u can s-off the latest gb. U need to root the rom, downgrade, then reinstall gb as the rom ONLY. NOT the entire pc10img.
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[Q] Root Desire HD OTA update gingerbread 2.3.3

hey guys.
did anybody know here how to make 2.3.3 ota update root, i have tried gingerbreak that doesnt working showing just black screen.
my phn is s-on, I do it coz it wont accepting OTA update.
is there any manual process to make it root via adb shell or something like that.?
i dont want to install custom roms i already checked so much of them but the are not fully bugs free and not fully google compatible as i want..
It is not possible. True, not all the ROMs work great, but some do. Try Android Revolution HD 5.1.6.
You have to downgrade first to get root, and then S-OFF if you want to flash custom ROMs.
You can also downgrade, root, get Radio S-OFF, unroot, get OTA again and use GingerBreak. Then you can have root in the latest HTC Gingerbread ROM.
jkoljo said:
It is not possible. True, not all the ROMs work great, but some do. Try Android Revolution HD 5.1.6.
You have to downgrade first to get root, and then S-OFF if you want to flash custom ROMs.
You can also downgrade, root, get Radio S-OFF, unroot, get OTA again and use GingerBreak. Then you can have root in the latest HTC Gingerbread ROM.
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OTA didn't came when radio is S-ON. thats y i did this..
Your phone is always S-ON when it is stock, so surely OTA will work then. And even when it is S-OFF, it does not matter if your /system partition is in stock condition (no root, no bloatware removed).
HTC have stopped Gingerbread OTA because of to many bug (To many have reported problem with SMS, WiFi a.l.). It will be released new version within few weeks when those thing is fixed. Ref HTC support
Thanks jkolko for the useful s-off & eng-off guides. Should anyone else find it an issue, note that if recovery cannot mount your sdcard, you should try another sdcard (found this elsewhere in the forums).
Hi, any app for downgrading? Honestly, not à "hero" when it comes to touching my phone, but would like root (at least to get rid of some stock apps).
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To have root in 2.3 you need to use the downgrade guide to 1.32. Root and S-OFF and update to Gingerbread using 2.3 RUU. Then use Gingerbreak .apk to root. Now you have rooted S-OFFed Gingerbread 2.3
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Updated to 2.3 from fully rooted 1.32 by RUU, installed AMT and now have su and full root Gingerbread AMT relay works, thanks to developer of script...
Hello Frendz,
The day before yesterday HTC sent an upgrade to the factory default OS (i.e. 2.2 froyo) on my DHD and I happily upgraded to 2.3 Gingerbread. Now, before updating I had permanent root access on my desire through Visionary but just after the update I realised I do not have root anymore. I would appreciate any comments and other experiences in this matter.
Also, during my own research I came across Gingerbreak which is probably the best around for rooting the 2.3 version but all I wanna ask is, if I still need to downgrade to gain root access or is it possible to directly use ginger break somehow? If I am not flashing another Rom, and all I want is Superuser rights.
As, I have never flashed any other find on to my DHD and I was using the stock interface since the start obviously with visionary root.
Also, whichever way I do it, I would loose all my contacts apps or we can avoid that. Can anybody please suggest any good (possibly free) backup app.
Tooo Long to read but any help and replies will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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Anyone have any idea when Visionary or another One Click will work on a stock DHD running 2.3.3? I only want to root to get Set Cpu to improve my battery life.
You can trust my word.. Never.
jkoljo said:
You can trust my word.. Never.
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Wow, that's a bold statement in tech lol
Any reason why this build will never be hacked when seemingly every other one is?
Not doubting yr word at all tho lol
Because it uses (as far as we know) pretty much flawless security measures that prevent us from doing much anything. Previously the devs found a way to go around the main security barrier after two months of trying, and now HTC blocked that security hole. As downgrading is possible, there are really not much interests to try and crack the new builds. Especially as it seems like a mission impossible.
....sigh.....
and since downgrading, gold cards etc etc is not my favorite, still waiting for a simple apk "for dummies", I guess I can forget to get to root mine.....
Those guides are really not so hard. Read them a couple of times, and if you still do not get it, ask your friend to do it. You can also join #AndroidRevolution IRC channel, somebody can hold your hand through the process. If I am logged in, make sure to send me a private message in IRC so I notice you.
thanks for the offer! will read again & probaply come back t you for help
Indian Desire HD
Apparently the Indian DHDs running 2.3.3 cannot be downgraded to root.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
You can install seraphic custom Rom if you like its just a stock Rom with stock kernel and root access. I love that Rom, closest to stock you can get on rooted DHDs IMO.
yes, it really sad that to say 2.37 OTA upgrade cannot be downgrade this time, I really want to downgrade or just root it :'(
nothing can do this time

[Q] Rooting my HTC Desire Z

Hello i want to root my HTC DZ so i can install a costom rom, but i'm not excactly sure if i have to downgrade my phone.
the phones build number is 182.405.1
Can i instal costom roms on my phone and what is the best app to use for rooting my phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...sion#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD
have fun!
So i have to downgrade first since i have version 1.82 ?
Also i've read many articles and i came across something called VISIONary+ Can i root with this app or will i just screw up my phone?
well so far Q&A?
johrie91 said:
So i have to downgrade first since i have version 1.82 ?
Also i've read many articles and i came across something called VISIONary+ Can i root with this app or will i just screw up my phone?
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yes, you are required to downgrade as only 1.34 is rootable at the moment.
you'll get 15 different opinions regarding whether or not visionary is safe, but the general consensus is that it is okay to use to obtain temp root, but very risky to try and perma-root with it.
oke i started downgrading but i'm getting an error "Main version is older update failed" what did i do wrong?
EDIT: Nvm what i did wrong was the usb setting it should be Charge only
..
so did you get it to work just fine after downgrading ?
Using visionary is harmless. I constantly use it to root and unroot my g2. The method you may have come across could be slightly different than what I read so I would say compare similar facts between the two. I got my rooting info from here: http://theunlockr.com/2010/10/20/how-to-root-the-t-mobile-g2-htc-vision-visionary-method/ . Theunlockr has video tutorials posted as well as text tutorial. So using this method should help majorly.
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B6gSix said:
Using visionary is harmless. I constantly use it to root and unroot my g2. The method you may have come across could be slightly different than what I read so I would say compare similar facts between the two. I got my rooting info from here: http://theunlockr.com/2010/10/20/how-to-root-the-t-mobile-g2-htc-vision-visionary-method/ . Theunlockr has video tutorials posted as well as text tutorial. So using this method should help majorly.
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does visionary still temp root htc desire z 1.82.. ? wouldnt work for me when i last tried )=

[Q] Rooting HTC Desire Z Gingerbread 2.3.4?

Hello XDA Community,
I am fairly new to the concept of rooting an android device and I have no idea where to start. I understand what rooting is and what it will allow me to do, but I just have no idea how to get started
I was looking around the forums and reading different topics on how to root the HTC Desire Z (or my G2 for short), but a lot of the topics take me to links to other topics, which have links to other topics which have a lot of technical things that are not friendly to a first time rooter (What is S-OFF/S-ON?? Why would I need to do that and how??).
I recently allowed my G2/HTC Desire Z to upgrade to the new Gingerbread 2.3.4, and to my understanding, there is no simple way to get this rooted. After reading the topics, I do see that there is a way around it, but I'm just at a loss as to where to start.
Is there anybody out there that is willing to help me out? If so, that would be much appreciated.
Thanks in advance!
--DBakathaiLList
You should apply this guide for first: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178912
And then this one for rooting: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...sion#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD
Also there will be some people to help you if you need here: http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=g2root
You my friend, are the man.
Thanks a bunch for this.
I read your thread, I also have the htc G2 (tmobile) and it is in stock gingerbread 2.3.4 not 2.3.3
I was wondering wich phone u have to be exact, the desire Z is the UK version of the g2.
Also I was wondering if u were able to root your phone with the method that was provided to you.
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dj2muchxx said:
I read your thread, I also have the htc G2 (tmobile) and it is in stock gingerbread 2.3.4 not 2.3.3
I was wondering wich phone u have to be exact, the desire Z is the UK version of the g2.
Also I was wondering if u were able to root your phone with the method that was provided to you.
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The above linked method will work for you also. You'll have to downgrade first, then root, then flash a pre-rooted OTA build. That'll put you back to where you are now, but with root access.
I've just rooted HTC Desire Z - Android 2.3.3
1. You have to downgrade firmware 2.x to 1.3.4 ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905261)
2. And then following these instruction in ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD )
3. Done
have any of you guys tried the gingerbreak?
from what i read its able to root any gingerbread device.
i cant post links as this is my second post. but im sure if you google it, you should find it.
i read under the techofweb result.
not sure if it works, i never tried it. Rooting my HTC desire Z voids my warranty
but if you guys out there try it, let me know if its successful.
thanks in advance.
hangover28 said:
have any of you guys tried the gingerbreak?
from what i read its able to root any gingerbread device.
i cant post links as this is my second post. but im sure if you google it, you should find it.
i read under the techofweb result.
not sure if it works, i never tried it. Rooting my HTC desire Z voids my warranty
but if you guys out there try it, let me know if its successful.
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Gingerbreak doesn't work on the G2 / DZ. And doesn't work on many devices.
Sent from my CM7-powered T-Mobile G2
can you post the pre-rooted OTA/leaked?
is it 2.3.3 or 2.3.4?
no issues of whatsoever?
thanks in advance.
Flash05 said:
can you post the pre-rooted OTA/leaked?
is it 2.3.3 or 2.3.4?
no issues of whatsoever?
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What we're actually doing now to root is this :
2.3.4, temp rooting 2.3.4, downgrade to OTA 2.1, root that, flash new ROM.
You forgot the last step *PROFIT!* lol all kidding aside for the one who asked the pre-rooted ota is in the development section. don't forget to flash recovery and get titanium backup and all that good stuff first...well second after temproot if you go that method. DO NOT USE VISIONARY!
Also remember to do a nandroid backup of your 2.1 ROM if for some reason you want to go back to stock, or sending your phone in for warranty.
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Hello everyone, I am using HTC-Desire Z with the android version 2.3.3
I really want to upgrade my phone to ICS. In case of doing the root, i want to know that, if i root my phone will it downgrade first to the Froyo??? If it will then can i upgrade to the ICS using the custom ROM process???
If anyone knows or understands my problems please provide me a solution and that will be appreciated..
Thank You
Zawad
Yes search the threads and follow the wiki. The only safe way to root is to downgrade first using the method outlined in the wiki. The only way (for now and probably forever) to get ics on a desire z or g2 is to root
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Help with rooting

Can someone walk me through for the steps of successfully rooting my desire z ?
Thanks
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There are so many easy places to find this information here if you just look around. Specifically the Android Development sub forum.
Cyanogenmod wiki for rooting the HTC Desire Z
The XDA wiki for rooting the HTC Vision/Desire Z
Also make sure you do not use the Visionary to do root as it has a high brick risk and don't install Clockworkmod version 5 as that has issues. Stick with Clockworkmod 3.0.2.4.
Another thing ... I suggest before you root your device, you read through a lot of the forum threads for your device so you have a better understanding of what your doing. I apologize if I'm treating you with kid gloves, but your question makes me wonder.
That guide is for 1.72 firmware though I am running on 2.42.666.8. How would I go about downgrading it?
EDIT: Also, what can you do with a rooted phone, I know you can do a lot just not the specifics.
Check the Development forum, there is a guide there for downgrading gingerbread OTA's
-Nipqer
I used this guide to downgrade my ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178912
OhAndyOh said:
That guide is for 1.72 firmware though I am running on 2.42.666.8. How would I go about downgrading it?
EDIT: Also, what can you do with a rooted phone, I know you can do a lot just not the specifics.
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I was unaware you're phone had a later firmware on it. Yes, as you said, "can do a lot" with a rooted phone. For example you can install a custom kernel and overclock it to speed up the phone. You can install the latest version of Android on it so you know it's always up to date. I can't really think of anymore off the top of my head, but there you go. Rooting pretty much keeps your options open with your phone I guess.

[Q] upgrade from 2.2 to 2.3.x without rooting

It is a shame to say that I still use Android 2.2 with Kernel 2.6.32.21, Taiwan version since I bought the phone a year ago.
(Not until recently, I have decided to move on to Gingerbread because
I wanna use the the latest features in the NDK to write some C++ programs for Android.)
Without getting into trouble during/after rooting,
I tried an official OTA upgrade but it doesn't work.
I tried to ask HTC but they said they still don't have any official upgrade for my phone.
I am a newbie here in this forum,
Could anybody please kindly offer your help please?
It will be GREATLY APPRECIATED! I wanna make my App!!!
swimd
If there is no official Gingerbread for your phone (which seems odd ?) then you can flash a different official GB ROM onto your phone. But normally your phone isn't going to let you do this, because it will fail the signature checks.
What you need to do is to de-brand your phone so that it doesn't do these checks any more. I will see if I can dig out a link to a guide and edit it into my post, unless someone else beats me to it.
Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.
Steviewevie,
Thank you for your help in advance!
I can't copy and paste the link right now, but use the Search function in the Android Dev forum to find the thread called "Debranding Bell Desire Z" (it doesn't only apply to Bell phones).
Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.
Thank you for the help!
I have found that thread!
BTW, after a quick look of the thread, it seems that S-off is recommended...
Do I need to get "root" in order to do so?
Should I do that to prevent future trouble?
Always recomend rooting phones right away, if you have a custom recovery and an enginering bootloader you can save tons of headaches in the future when problems arise (as they often do) this of course is outside the fact that a rooted phone is a happy phone and certainly not an apple
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As demkantor said, getting S-OFF is a lot better because it gives you a lot more options for the future, even if you don't use those options straight away.
IMHO the only reason to use the goldcard method and not full S-OFF is if you are really worried about voiding your warranty or the S-OFF process yourself. But there's no need to worry really, since (a) you can easily reverse the process if you need to, and (b) lots of people here can help you through getting S-OFF (the XDA Wiki explains it very well, though it can look daunting at first).
Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.
+1 to the notion of just rooting the phone. Especially since if are software developer, I would think that you would want full control over your device. And if you have these type of skill, rooting will be easy.
As mentioned, root, S-Off etc. can be removed for warranty purposes, if that is the concern.
The Wiki method is generally accepted as the safest:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD
demkantor and all,
Thanks!!! ok, I am least I will go for S-OFF!
But, I need to be able to fully recover my OS and Apps,
I need to do some research on stock recovery and/or custom recovery...
Well, I think there is an official update to Gingerbread thou.. But I think dont think that version is in English as it is a Hongkong version.

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