Hi, i searched all over... some1 said to me that DeFrost would never likely be on the same ROM as Sense UI as they cancel each other out, I`ve found threads on here sowing the changelogs/bugfixes etc of DeFrost but what are all the PROs / CONs to Defrost ?
whats it got that renders sense UI uselss
thanks
The fact that there is no sense ui in Defrost. But just take a look at the defrost thread, all you need to know about, what it is and what it contains can be found there.
i moved from leedroids to defrost and have to say im impressed, support is amazing, its lighting fast and battery is also great, sense only takes up space and slows down the system.
I currently use defrost and it is fast. Alot faster and smoother then leedroid, however i think im going to go back to a sense rom.
This is for a number of reasons but mainly because of all the widgets and apps and extensions of sense. Once you try to get some of the functionality back that sense offers the rom starts to become as bloated anyway.
It you want sense use a sense rom, if not use a AOSP rom. TBH it is best to try them both out and see which you prefer.
I find that defrost is much faster, assuming you're using launcher pro, its more responsive to the touch... in my case anyway. the only downside to defrost i think is the camera skin... its ugly as hell. I love the camera interface on sense, although the video recording (720p) is much better on defrost.
anddd you can flash so many different kernels to your different needs on defrost, personally i like HAVS 1113 mhz BFS 875mA the best.. but thats only cause my desire can handle the low voltage
DeFrost is better in battery live and speed (of course it is a non-Sense ROM).
Sense ROMs (like LeeDroid) is according to my taste more beautiful and it is somehow like a birthmark of the Desire. The new Sense (HD or Z porting) is even more awesome than the ordinary Sense.
But of course, Sense will drain your battery and resources more than without Sense.
That is why I find it hard to decide which ROM I should use.
I am now on Z ROM...but dunno how long this will last...
Hi,
I have a HTC Desire Z and I'm currently using the Vision Sense 1.82.405.1 Untouched ROM. I'm also thinking of trying out other ROMs, particularly those that are based on Gingerbread (though I admit I don't fully know what advantages Gingerbread has over Froyo).
I'm generally happy with the phone as it is now, but my main gripes are its speed - it lags noticeably sometimes - and battery life - I get about a day at most, and by that I mean from the time I wake up to the time I sleep, not 24hrs).
Are there any comparisons/writeups on what the various ROMs offer, and how they're different from one another?
Thanks.
I'm running Blackdroidmod 3.3.0 with stock Radio, set the governer @ Interactive min 386mhz and max 1016mhz and I'm using LauncherPro (plus) instead of the stock/ADW launcher. I love it and I reach 20 hours easily with moderate usage.
(2~ 4 calls/day, average of 10 texts, lots of whatsapp messages and activesync @ 2 accounts + 2 x pop3 accounts polling every hour, fb polling every 15 mins, weather sync every 2 hours, some gaming and listening to mp3) and it's always smooth (806mhz max is enough if you don't use multiple apps at the same time).
It's stable and everything works right away from the first time I flashed it. CM7.0 is good... but isn't very stable in my opinion and misses some applications while Blackdroidmod looks a bit like Sense.
goister said:
Hi,
I'm also thinking of trying out other ROMs, particularly those that are based on Gingerbread (though I admit I don't fully know what advantages Gingerbread has over Froyo).
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Really not much, if you are a Sense fan. Google fixed a bunch of aesthetic/theming stuff, and improved the keyboard. Most of which is moot, since HTC themes mostly override the theme changes, and HTC uses their own keyboard. There may be some performance improvements or bug fixes. But in running both Froyo and GB ROMs, I didn't notice much performance difference. This might be due to the fact that most of the current Gingerbread ROMs are ports from other phones, or based on the leaked Desire Z test ROM. But I have not tried the recent G2 (no Sense) leaked test ROM, which is supposed to be pretty fast.
HTC Sense really slows down the phone, so a move to any ROM without Sense will probably improve your performance. Alternately, the lag you are noticing is probably due to the Sense launcher, which seems to be a CPU and memory hog. Try another launcher, like ADW or Launcher Pro, and you will probably find it improves performance quite a bit. You will lose the HTC widgets, but retain some of the nice HTC features, like the camera.
Getting a "waking day" (charge overnight) out of a modern smartphone is pretty normal. Of course, it completely depends on how much you use your phone. But with moderate use, I have yet to get more than a day, on various ROMs and radios. I can get 24 hours+ on very light use. What is your screen brightness set to? The screen brightness is actually one of the biggest battery drain culprits. If its on auto, turn that off, and reduce the brightness to the lowest setting you find usable/tolerable. Mine is on 35%. Just going from auto to a lower setting can improve battery life quite a bit.
If you like sense, I've found the battery life on the Trollogen Mod 0.9.1 to be SPECTACULAR. So far it's given me the best battery life out of all the ROMs I've tried. That includes Virtuous with the advanced kernel and multiple SetCPU profiles and the stock Gingerbread ROMs.
I tried running the battery down last night at a friends place for laughs and left music running on Wi-Fi with full brightness. I was constantly turning the screen on and looking at websites and so forth and by the time I got home (6 hours later) it had only just hit 67%. What's surprising is I didn't need a custom kernel or to modify it with SetCPU
Wow, 3 replies, 3 different suggestions. This is gonna be tough...
So far I've only heard of Virtuous, GingerVillian and Cyanogenmod, never heard of the others.
Oh I forgot to mention I'd like something that's stable as well, I've noticed things crash/reload quite a bit currently.
Trollogen is still a beta but its fairly stable as far as I can see. But if stability is really an issue you should stick with virtuous and install a new kernel on it.
My suggestion for a stable rom would be Virtuous with the advanced kernel. With 1.0.2 OCed to 1.3GHz and stock battery,i got about 16hrs of life with moderate use. Replaced with mugen 1800mAh and now can get 20hrs with moderate use and 30hrs with light use.
Havent used CM or TGM yet, but SenseGinger goes have some bugs in it which turned me away before. I would probably stick with a Froyo release until the official 2.3 rom gets released by HTC.
Happy flashing
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Lately there have been so many new ports, it's hard to keep up...but I do! (But mostly with Sense) Flash something new very night, but I always keep coming back to virtuous 1.0.2 with advanced kernel 2.2.0.
Everything just works, always (except HTC calendar widget disappears after a reboot, for some reason). Very speedy for sense, and being able to overclock pushes it into a winning position for me versus the gingerbread sense roms.
Xboarder56's stock gingerbread worked pretty well for me while I was on it for a couple of days. Worth a try!
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OK, thanks. Perhaps I'll try Virtuous. Are there any step by step guides to flash Virtuous ROM into my Desire Z, and what's the advanced kernel 2.2.0? Don't all Android use Linux kernel 2.6.x?
Thanks again.
Edit: OK I assume the Advanced Kernel 2.2.0 is what's found in the Virtuous kernel 2.x page here.
What if I want to install a Gingerbread kernel? I see there's a Gingerbread folder here with either glite or sense. What are these?
Both Virtuous G-lite and Fusion have OC kernels and shouldn't have to flash a new one on install. Just have to get SetCPU or CPUTuner to enable the OC, both up to 1.5GHz.
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OK, thanks. Perhaps I'll try Virtuous. Are there any step by step guides to flash Virtuous ROM into my Desire Z, and what's the advanced kernel 2.2.0? Don't all Android use Linux kernel 2.6.x?
Thanks again.
Edit: OK I assume the Advanced Kernel 2.2.0 is what's found in the Virtuous kernel 2.x page here.
What if I want to install a Gingerbread kernel? I see there's a Gingerbread folder here with either glite or sense. What are these?
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G-Lite is a Gingerbread ROM, with no Sense. Fusion is a port of Gingerbread (from another phone), with Sense 3.0. Sense 3.0 has some cool new features, but the launcher takes up most of the phone's memory (our phone is not meant to run Sense 3.0, and we won't be getting it "officially" for this reason). Just about every time you go back to the launcher home, it needs to reload the launcher, which is annoying. There are also some graphical glitches. So I found Fusion fun to play with for a while, but I'm back on Froyo, probably until the official Sense ROM for our device is released (and a rooted version is posted here).
If you want Sense, stability and usability, the "original" Virtuous is probably what you want. Its easy to install. You can download straight in ROM Manager, and flash from there. You might not have to do a full wipe, since you are coming from a stock Froyo Sense ROM. But if you have any issues, you should probably wipe (dalvik, cache, and data) and flash again. Also, do a nandroid/clockwork backup of your current ROM, before you flash Virtuous, in case you have the need or desire to return to your current setup. ROM Manager will give you the choice to backup the current ROM when you go to flash Virtuous.
Virtuous comes overclocked to 1 GHz by default. The advanced kernel gives additional overclocking options (up to 1.51 GHz), that's all. Advanced kernel pretty much requires you to setup screen-off profiles with SetCPU (or similar app) or you will (AFAIK) almost certainly have issues with the screen waking. So you might not want to mess with it, and to stick with the default/included kernel, unless you are really interested in OC speeds over 1 GHz.
The Virtuous Gingerbread kernel allows overclocking of G-Lite and Fusion. They can't be used with the "regular" (Froyo based) Virtuous. Vice versa is also true.
But really, there isn't a whole lot that Virtuous actually gives you in addition to stock. You can flash the Godspeed kernel on the stock ROM, if you want to overclock. Virtuous also has trackpad wake, which is very cool. But again, you can do this mod on the stock ROM. So modding the stock ROM to your liking may be another option.
The insertcoin rom is another half way house option. It is Sense 2.1 based with some 3.0 bits added.
It is still a bit more memory intensive than stock, but it does have the very cool lockscreen, which is one of my main reasons for sticking with it. That and the CRT animations always keep me happy.
I have been using it as my daily driver for a while now.
Does G-Lite is a stable rom for G2 ?
Im searching for a stable, overclockable Rom based on 2.3
I read about CM7, and looks with so many issues on gps, etc..
Does G-Lite is stable and gps, bluetooth, youtube, etc works ?
Also, I need a tip, or a feature. I need to use a Rom (or chance any config) to put the Navigator voice on Brazilian Portuguese.
CM have this, but with the problems on GPS.
Any ideia ?
If you want something other then a Sense Rom. You could try meXdroid. It is stable and fast. It is a Gingerbread Rom (2.3.4) I have been using his roms for a while now. The dev and his team theme out the rom. Here is a link to meXdroid rom with screen shots. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=886184
I dont like sense.
Im searching for a stock android rom.
pyromod 2.0 with smartass...1.5ghz and great batt life
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angusbrasil said:
I dont like sense.
Im searching for a stock android rom.
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meXdroid is not a Sense Rom. It just has a theme. Look at the link in the post above. You can see a few screen shots of the Rom there. You can overclock meXdroid to 1.5 ghz also. You really don't need to though. It is fast at 800 mhz. I know Quadrant does not mean a lot but at 800 mhz my scores are 2500+ and at 1.2 ghz my scores are 3000+.
it wasnt the ghz i was impressed by it was tje batt life to go with it...but ill try to post in the right section next time..lol..sorry
pimped out g2
smokeuout said:
it wasnt the ghz i was impressed by it was tje batt life to go with it...but ill try to post in the right section next time..lol..sorry
pimped out g2
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Oh no no. My post was not to say anything about your post. I was just stating as you did that meXdroid can overclock also. You can post here all you want. This is a question in the Q&A section not in the meXdroid thread. Your all good. Have a good one.
hey alright...it was the right section...lol..no im new to posting so im still learnin the areas and such...b seriously PYROMOD 2.0
pimped out g2
Hope this is the right place to make this question.
i've lurking this forums for quite sometime now, i've tried a lot of roms sense and AOSP... and in the last few days i've been using probably the most stable rom (liberation 3) besides a stock rom, but i still cant get used to sense 1.0 i just dont feel confortable using it, yes its incredibly fast, no lag ever, best battery life, but the UI just feels akward. im in love with sense 3.5 but not even with the latest gingertiny its fast enough for me, lots of lagging and sporadic FCs.
So my question is, wich rom (sense rom) dou you think would work for me, i would be confortable with a sense 3.0 rom or even a sense 2.0, but i need full functionality (720p recording, or at least 800 with no lag, camera saving to emmc, emmc mounting, wifi/3g drops) and faster and lees lag possible.
or should i try to get used to sense 1.0 again?
talcko said:
Hope this is the right place to make this question.
i've lurking this forums for quite sometime now, i've tried a lot of roms sense and AOSP... and in the last few days i've been using probably the most stable rom (liberation 3) besides a stock rom, but i still cant get used to sense 1.0 i just dont feel confortable using it, yes its incredibly fast, no lag ever, best battery life, but the UI just feels akward. im in love with sense 3.5 but not even with the latest gingertiny its fast enough for me, lots of lagging and sporadic FCs.
So my question is, wich rom (sense rom) dou you think would work for me, i would be confortable with a sense 3.0 rom or even a sense 2.0, but i need full functionality (720p recording, or at least 800 with no lag, camera saving to emmc, emmc mounting, wifi/3g drops) and faster and lees lag possible.
or should i try to get used to sense 1.0 again?
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I recommend inc2 mctwist or optimized shift bother are sense 2.1. Both are about as stable as you're gonna get with a non stock based rom. Most sense 3.0+ Roms don't get any support anymore and bugs never got fixed. I personally use aosp (incdeck) but the incredible really can't handle anything above 2.1 sense
I can second inc2 mctwist. It seemed to be the fastest and most stable non stock sense based rom for me. Personally though I still prefer AOSP roms. Hope you find one that works for you!
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I keep going back to the stock+ rom. All the features of the 3.0/3.5 roms are nice but the little bugs here and there bother me.
The bells and whistles are nice but they come at a price of poor battery life and lag due to our outdated hardware. I had good luck with Synergy which was a 2.1/3.x hybrid but is no longer supported.But I do always find myself going back to stock builds.
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Hey guys I've been searching forever to find a solution to this but I can't seem to find one. So i'll ask here. I've recently upgraded my Xpreia play to CM9 ICS with DoomKernel to use the analog touchpads with N64oid. but the problem is, I can't overclock above 1.7 Ghz or it will crash, I've tried countless different ICS roms and kernels, but they do the same thing. I was able to overclock up to 1.9 Ghz on stock Gingerbread using DoomKernel, so whats going on?
I heard it depends on your phone. Some overclock to 2ghz, some to less. Mine crashes above 1.8. But I think 1.7 would be more than enough, don't you?
It is, but it would be nice to know why it was working on Gingerbread and not ICS.