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[Q] EVO App Space?

I'm trying to understand, is there only 358MB of free space for Apps on the EVO? Is that enough? I've read about something called Apps2SD, is that to increase the space if necessary?
Does the app space change with the ROM you have applied?

Thats wayy more than most other android phones, but if you do end up filling it up, you can download Apps2SD. It will allow you to move certain apps to the external memory, freeing up some onboard space.

TREYisRAD said:
Thats wayy more than most other android phones, but if you do end up filling it up, you can download Apps2SD. It will allow you to move certain apps to the external memory, freeing up some onboard space.
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Thank you sir!

[Q] How much internal storage space do you have?

I have only 40mb free internal, yet I don't have many apps at all.
Twitter takes up 10mb, maps takes up about the same, FB the same. Contacts storage takes up 17mb. so already almost 100mb used?!
Is this normal? On 2.1 eclair I think I had 90mb free. does this space affect phone speed or only app storage?
cheers
P.S. I have moved some apps to SD when the option was available in "manage application" only 3 megs of apps moved over though.

28mb internal storage free.
I also moved everything possible to SD when it became available.
I had to uninstall flash player update because I went down to about 15mb

thanks for your reply Lothaen. I guess it's kinda the "normal situation" then. A pity they just couldn't have included 1gig internal for all this stuff.

mcgon1979 said:
thanks for your reply Lothaen. I guess it's kinda the "normal situation" then. A pity they just couldn't have included 1gig internal for all this stuff.
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i have 56.45mb and have 200-300 apps, 5 gameloft games at 10-15mb each, nfs shift at 30mbs rockplayer universal at 12mbs and lots more lol use apps2sd+ duuuude lol

Yes but then they wouldn't have had much left to offer for the desire hd xD Well at least they show that they are learning for those mistakes, but i myself just use old a2sd+ and i have no problems concerning space what so ever.
75.6 mb. free space and i install an app every time i feel like it without considering the space. Atm. i have around 80 apps installed and google earth + maps is some of them

cheers guys. I'll look up this apps2sd+. I guess apps to SD didn't really come with Froyo causeI only had the option to put 3 apps there. I was under the impression we could put anything on the SD. I guess it's this apps2sd+ thing I need to educate myself about.
thanks

I got my Desire shipped with 2.2.
When I try to export programs over to the SD card, they are greyed out. Is there any reason for that? Or how can I move them?
It is a little frustrating not having a lot of internal memory to work with. I thought with 2.2 you could move programs over to the SD card ???????

Cpt_Chaos said:
I got my Desire shipped with 2.2.
When I try to export programs over to the SD card, they are greyed out. Is there any reason for that? Or how can I move them?
It is a little frustrating not having a lot of internal memory to work with. I thought with 2.2 you could move programs over to the SD card ???????
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With the Google A2SD you can only move apps over if the developer has enabled it for A2SD. Otherwise you get a greyed out button.
If you want more space then rooting and going for a custom ROM with A2SD+ is the way to go.
As for the OP, Facebook is on the Desire so isn't part of the storage you install to unless you're still on Android 2.1 and you're on about the update.

Do apps on sd card still use phone memory?

I`m using app2sd on my desire and have moved about half my apps to sd card, but i`m finding i`m still running out of phone memory, my fault for buying navigon i guess (26mb for that mother!).
Do apps that are installed to sd card still use some phone memory??
I`m also finding that once its down to anywhere below 15mb (notification of low space), I can no longer download anything from marketplace.
I have to uninstall an app then reboot.
I thought the whole idea of 2.2 was to move apps to sd card to free up phone memory but its not having the expected results with me.
Thanks

paulruk said:
I`m using app2sd on my desire and have moved about half my apps to sd card, but i`m finding i`m still running out of phone memory, my fault for buying navigon i guess (26mb for that mother!).
Do apps that are installed to sd card still use some phone memory??
I`m also finding that once its down to anywhere below 15mb (notification of low space), I can no longer download anything from marketplace.
I have to uninstall an app then reboot.
I thought the whole idea of 2.2 was to move apps to sd card to free up phone memory but its not having the expected results with me.
Thanks
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+1
same thing with me
any solution or idea about this
thx a lot

If the app is stored on the SD the davilk cache might still be on phone memory, if it is it will still use phone memory.

I think that is indeed the case.
I have moved Angry Birds (13MB) from phone to SD card, and now I see it showing 1.6MB. Which means 1.6MB is still on phone memory and the rest on SD card.

Ok thanks for the replies.
But how about the downloads not starting even when I have plenty of space left.
Thanks

paulruk said:
Ok thanks for the replies.
But how about the downloads not starting even when I have plenty of space left.
Thanks
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I get the 'out of space' error.
However, the SD/Phone card storage says my phone has 65mb free.
I install all my apps to SD, just wondering why, with 65mb free, it wasn't letting me install to the phone.
Is there any way to fix this?
Thanks

paulruk said:
Ok thanks for the replies.
But how about the downloads not starting even when I have plenty of space left.
Thanks
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Yes, it seems 15mb is the minimum threshold on phone memory to download and install the apps.
Navigon takes 26MB? That's a lot!
I have Sygic Maps and it takes less than 7MB. I can move it to SD, but I leave it on phone memory for maximum performance.
Try App2SD application from Market (which can be installed and moved to SD card). You will get a nice overview of all the apps that can be moved. You can also see which apps are the biggest.
I've got more than 60MB free space now on phone memory.

[Q] Internal Memory as Phone Memory?

I'm tired of been Google it this for days, it is even possible to use the internal memory as phone memory of may be partition it as a single one I dont use it anyway I have my 16 gb sd card and is just wasted memory

What are you asking?

if is possible to use the internal memory as phone/system memory

magikhands said:
if is possible to use the internal memory as phone/system memory
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I think there's a way to use it in a sort of apps2SD style. I wouldn't suggest it though because the eMMC used in the phone is slower than the SDcard and must share bandwidth with the system.

yeah i know what you mean, but the phone itself has 7ish gb of flash memory (total of 8gb) that dedicate 1gb to the system (746mb usable) so instead of been just there is there any way to use them as part of the system (as right now my phone sees 2 sd card the physical one (16gb) and the internal 6ish gb) this last one I don't use it at all so my question is is there any way to partion it the system one to be able to use the total 8gb internal flash memory?

Same way Motorola Droid X Does

Yes, edit the vold.fstab file in /system/etc and switch the last two lines. Specifically the the "auto" and beyond and the "3" and beyond. Leave what's before the auto and the 3 on the last two lines.

magikhands said:
yeah i know what you mean, but the phone itself has 7ish gb of flash memory (total of 8gb) that dedicate 1gb to the system (746mb usable) so instead of been just there is there any way to use them as part of the system (as right now my phone sees 2 sd card the physical one (16gb) and the internal 6ish gb) this last one I don't use it at all so my question is is there any way to partion it the system one to be able to use the total 8gb internal flash memory?
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I think the app NotEnoughSpace will do that for you. Or more to the point it will allow you to use some of that space for the /data/data partition which on the Dinc is allocated to 150MB and is responsible for the "Application out of space" errors people get all the time.

gilliduck said:
Yes, edit the vold.fstab file in /system/etc and switch the last two lines. Specifically the the "auto" and beyond and the "3" and beyond. Leave what's before the auto and the 3 on the last two lines.
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That just mounts emmc as sd and sd as emmc. I think what hes asking is if there is a way to dedicate more than 1gb of the memory to the system out of the 7gb free. So in other words out of 8 total gb he wants 7gb to be dedicated to the system and 1gb for emmc storage.
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cmlusco said:
That just mounts emmc as sd and sd as emmc. I think what hes asking is if there is a way to dedicate more than 1gb of the memory to the system out of the 7gb free. So in other words out of 8 total gb he wants 7gb to be dedicated to the system and 1gb for emmc storage.
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+1 on this as well.I just store important stuff on there which is nowhere near 1gb used. 700 some mb is just not enough for me.

dyetheskin said:
+1 on this as well.I just store important stuff on there which is nowhere near 1gb used. 700 some mb is just not enough for me.
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There has to be a way to do it i just have no clue how. But i would love to have more space for system.
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notenoughspace is useful for moving what's in /data/data so there's no more FC's and warnings when it gets low based on the old 150mb and under. all my media and storage of files is on a 16gb sd so I'm hardly using the emmc. once this is figured out I'll reset my /data/setup based on how much more space we can allocate for more apps outside the initial 1gb
update: after playing with "NES" and moving certain apps one by one to avoid problems I nearly have almost 120mb freed up in data/data and notice some increase in performance unless my eyes are fooling me

any news on this? I'd love to create more program memory out of the emmc

[Q] anything like HBOOT to repartition internal memory?

Hi!
As I understand the Xperia S has a huge internal memory of 32GB, but this is parted into two partitions: One for Apps (known as /data on my HTC Desire) and one for all kinds of user data (/sdcard).
Right?
I know I can move most parts of most apps to /sdcard with internal functions. But not all apps.
So I would like to have more space for apps - is there anything like HBOOT / http://alpharev.nl to repartition the internal memory for the XS? Anything to make the app partition e.g. 5GB instead of 2GB?
Or: Is there any custom rom which uses the whole internal memory at once with no extra partition mounted to /sdcard? As I understand, this is the way google wants to handle this in ICS. One big internal memory for all purposes.

First, there is a SD card, a data one, a system one, a cache one, boot and maybe some obscure ones. Second, as I'm aware, no known way to increase it. And you don't need a huge partition. You can have a hell lot of apps with 2 GB. The data goes to SD card anyway.
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Felimenta97 said:
And you don't need a huge partition. You can have a hell lot of apps with 2 GB. The data goes to SD card anyway.
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to be honest, I am not sure about this.
At the moment I have a Desire with /data 1,5GB (via ext4 partition). I have only 200MB(!) left!
I have no big games on the phones. Some apps are moved to sd, additional. And there are no many big ones on my phone.
e.g. Facebook has 50MB and cannot be moved. G+ 30MB and I want to use the widget, so it is not moved. Amazon App Shop 30MB, cannot be moved. wetter.com 20MB and this is after moving!
And these are all of the huge apps on my Desire with only 200MB free. the other apps are odds and ends.
So, projected to the XS I would have 700MB free in the moment. And there are many apps I had to delete on my Desire and I want do install them. e.g. the Simpsons game 100MB and cannot be moved ...
/data 233MB free of 1511MB:
/data/app 426MB
/data/dalvik-cache 387MB
/data/data 300MB
/data/app_s 97MB

I, sometimes get to go through my apps list, I look at each one of them, and think: Do I really need this app? I can't uninstall it and download when I need it again?
It may help you.
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hm, this sounds like shortage management. And when I by a new phone I do not want to do shortage management, particularly on a phone with 32GB.
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But seriously: my smartphone is my digital Swiss army knife. I do not want to think about "do I need this app the next week?" And even worse "there was an app long time ago which would help me now, but which one from the bunch of similar named app was the one?"

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hm, this sounds like shortage management. And when I by a new phone I do not want to do shortage management, particularly on a phone with 32GB.
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But seriously: my smartphone is my digital Swiss army knife. I do not want to think about "do I need this app the next week?" And even worse "there was an app long time ago which would help me now, but which one from the bunch of similar named app was the one?"
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I get it... Well. I'm running out of options right now... Maybe move some apps to system? Needs root, tough
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dont know if this is what youre looking for:
well for storage you have 2gig phone memory and 25.80 internal memory,
all of the apps installed on your phone if you didnt move to sd will go to the phone memory which is 2gig,
all of the datas,obb files,pictures,movies,etc.. will be loaded on internal memory,
so the 2gig memory on your phone will be big enough for all your apps, meaning only the .apk files are stored on phone memory
and not the data.