From The Verge:
"Orange has announced that the Samsung Galaxy S III will receive its Quick Tap mobile payment system starting September 5th. Orange launched Quick Tap over a year ago, but the Galaxy S III is the first Android smartphone to use the system. Orange and Barclaycard provide the Quick Tap service, which they say is available in over 100,000 locations in the UK. The service allows users to make payments of up to £20 without having to enter a PIN.
Like other mobile payment wallets, Galaxy S III owners using Quick Tap in the UK can link up their various debit or credit cards from UK MasterCard or Visa. Orange is offering a £50 bonus credit for new customers when they activate Quick Tap, starting Wednesday."
What are the chances that the apk can be pulled and installed on the Galaxy Nexus? I'm fed up of waiting (for nearly a year) for Google Wallet in the UK.
I've explained a little about it here: http://www.nfcbrief.com/2012/09/orange-first-to-launch-uk-android-nfc.html
I'm assuming that Orange have opted to use the SIM as the secure element. If that's the case, it could be bad news for Nexus owners. I don't think stock AOSP Android has support for SIM secure elements (not 100% sure on this), meaning that, even if you acquired one of these new SIMs from Orange (and downloaded the Quick Tap apk), it likely wouldn't work with the Galaxy Nexus.
Custom ROMs might be able to fix that, though.
NFC Guy said:
I've explained a little about it here: http://www.nfcbrief.com/2012/09/orange-first-to-launch-uk-android-nfc.html
I'm assuming that Orange have opted to use the SIM as the secure element. If that's the case, it could be bad news for Nexus owners. I don't think stock AOSP Android has support for SIM secure elements (not 100% sure on this), meaning that, even if you acquired one of these new SIMs from Orange (and downloaded the Quick Tap apk), it likely wouldn't work with the Galaxy Nexus.
Custom ROMs might be able to fix that, though.
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OH wow, I really hope this comes to Galaxy Nexus
Just saw your update on the article you posted:
"UPDATE: I've received word from Orange that they will indeed be using new SIMs as the secure element for Quick Tap on Android. This means that the majority of NFC-enabled Android devices will be able to use the application, as long as Orange have approved each device. Notable exceptions likely include the Nexus devices, as it is unclear whether Google have enabled SIM secure element support in 'vanilla' Android. Quotes can be found below."
That sucks! Any chance you could ask if the Galaxy Nexus will be supported? Seeing as you are already in touch with them?
And just out of curiosity what is the advantage of using a SIM as a secure element? Is there a chance that Google have enabled support for it?
Thanks
Will Tap and Pay in Google Wallet work?
So long as the app uses wireless capability then it should work.
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So long as the app uses wireless capability then it should work.
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Not sure what you mean by wireless capability. I'm asking about NFC-based, if that's what you mean by wireless. Google Wallet moved away from the Secure-Element approach popular on previous LG phones (I'm currently on the Optimus G) towards a HCE-software-based implementation . Base AOSP Lollipop doesn't implement HCE for the models of NFC chips (by NXP Semi.) contained in the OG and G3. I'm wondering if:
LG is using newer NXP NFC chips
the firmware/drivers (open source or not) for said chips supports HCE, so Tap and Pay will work with Google Wallet
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Not sure what you mean by wireless capability. I'm asking about NFC-based, if that's what you mean by wireless. Google Wallet moved away from the Secure-Element approach popular on previous LG phones (I'm currently on the Optimus G) towards a HCE-software-based implementation . Base AOSP Lollipop doesn't implement HCE for the models of NFC chips (by NXP Semi.) contained in the OG and G3. I'm wondering if:
LG is using newer NXP NFC chips
the firmware/drivers (open source or not) for said chips supports HCE, so Tap and Pay will work with Google Wallet
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Works fine on my G2 with stock Lollipop, so it won't be a stretch to say that it will work just fine with the G4. As far as AOSP is concerned.....we don't even know yet if the phone can even be rooted let alone have a custom recovery installed...so it will probably be months from now before that question can be answered.
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Google Wallet tap and pay works fine on my G3, even when I was using CM11 and CM12, so I see no reason why it wouldn't work on the G4.
No reason it shouldn't work provided the SIM card is compatible.
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The NFC isn't locked down like Sams__t.
Just to reiterate what mingkee said, Tap to Pay doesn't work on some Samsung devices. I just tried to pay with my Note 3 at a Panera and was stupidly taping my phone to watch it do nothing. I was completely unaware that the Note 3 isn't supported by Google Wallet Tap to Pay. So, I'm hoping that it'll be enabled in my next phone, an LG G4. Good to know that it works on the G2 and G3.
will wait till confirmed working.should is not enough for me. thanks for all the input however, made me aware of the uncertainty
MY G4 came preloaded with Wallet and I was able to select the "tap and pay" option after logging in. I haven't used it to purchase anything, but I can do so and let you know what happens.
I have a T-Mobile G4, and I have tested Tap and Pay is indeed working fine. No quirks at all.
I wonder if Note 10+ got NFC support or not, sites talk differently about it.
Even sammobile.com mention it has no NFC, but they do nicely mention that it has Samsung Pay(NFC) support? How is that possible
So, is it with or without NFC support?
It has nfc.
Thank you, good to know
yeah at this point with them pushing samsung pay and the number of people using google pay it would be comercial suicide not to include NFC.
Hi, does anyone have the XT2013-2 and can you confirm if it has VoLTE and VoWiFi?
YES!
Yup, it supports both.... Although do check with your Carrier once as well..... If you are an Indian user, then currently Jio and Airtel supports it.
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Yup, it supports both.... Although do check with your Carrier once as well..... If you are an Indian user, then currently Jio and Airtel supports it.
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Thanks for the confirmation. I typed in an IMEI from a XT2013-1 model and T-Mobile (United States) stated that VoLTE was not supported. I guess I would need to get the IMEI of a XT2013-2 in order to fully confirm.
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Thanks for the confirmation. I typed in an IMEI from a XT2013-1 model and T-Mobile (United States) stated that VoLTE was not supported. I guess I would need to get the IMEI of a XT2013-2 in order to fully confirm.
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XT2013-2 is the international version, if I'm not mistaken...? Getting a device from another region will most likely not work, since support is added on the OS level. Since the OS is slightly different, the support is also different. So there's a pretty high chance that it will not work, since that particular carrier has not been added to that particular version of the OS.
With that being said, VoLTE and VoWIFI (aka WiFi Calling) are generally supported on the XT2013. And I can personally confirm they are supported on the XT2013-2.
BUT:
1. support for each carrier is software dependent. So the fact that it works for my carrier doesn't mean it will automatically work for yours, especially if we're not living in the same region (EU for example)
2. the phone won't enable VoLTE and VoWIFI if the carrier doesn't support these services to begin with (which I think is quite obvious).
3. I'm pretty new to this VoLTE and VoWIFI thing, too, but, assuming the carrier does support those services on their side, they also need to enable them on your account. This is usually done by activating it on the SIM card. Once that's done, and if the OS supports those services for that particular carrier, the options should be activated automatically (usually VoLTE is turned ON by default) or at least made available in Setting (in the case of Wifi Calling). So you can turn them on for yourself.
So, support for VoLTE and VoWIFI is a combination of carrier and manufacturer collaboration. Can't work one without the other.
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XT2013-2 is the international version, if I'm not mistaken...? Getting a device from another region will most likely not work, since support is added on the OS level. Since the OS is slightly different, the support is also different. So there's a pretty high chance that it will not work, since that particular carrier has not been added to that particular version of the OS.
With that being said, VoLTE and VoWIFI (aka WiFi Calling) are generally supported on the XT2013. And I can personally confirm they are supported on the XT2013-2.
BUT:
1. support for each carrier is software dependent. So the fact that it works for my carrier doesn't mean it will automatically work for yours, especially if we're not living in the same region (EU for example)
2. the phone won't enable VoLTE and VoWIFI if the carrier doesn't support these services to begin with (which I think is quite obvious).
3. I'm pretty new to this VoLTE and VoWIFI thing, too, but, assuming the carrier does support those services on their side, they also need to enable them on your account. This is usually done by activating it on the SIM card. Once that's done, and if the OS supports those services for that particular carrier, the options should be activated automatically (usually VoLTE is turned ON by default) or at least made available in Setting (in the case of Wifi Calling). So you can turn them on for yourself.
So, support for VoLTE and VoWIFI is a combination of carrier and manufacturer collaboration. Can't work one without the other.
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Thanks for the info. Would either of you be able to enter your IMEI into the T-Mobile checker to see what it displays in terms of functionality? Just looking for results of what is supported/what isn't.
https://www.t-mobile.com/resources/bring-your-own-phone
Also, how do you like the One Action? The only reason I want to get the global version is because I want the Android One program. The XT2013-4 from the United States is not the Android One version, and I know how slow Motorola is for regular updates.
Where did you get that model# from? The only place I can find the phone is on Amazon and the "manufacture reference" is pagl0001us.
Also where did you read the XT2013-4 is not part of the Android One program? Everything I've read has said all models were part of the program and fully compatible with T-Mobile, including Motorola's own website.
The variant is on the box. The XT2013-4 in the United States is the single SIM version that also supports CDMA networks. It is not Android One.
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The variant is on the box. The XT2013-4 in the United States is the single SIM version that also supports CDMA networks. It is not Android One.
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https://www.phonemore.com/models/motorola/one-action/
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Thanks for the info. Would either of you be able to enter your IMEI into the T-Mobile checker to see what it displays in terms of functionality? Just looking for results of what is supported/what isn't.
https://www.t-mobile.com/resources/bring-your-own-phone
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It doesn't show anything in my case. Either there's a bug with their site, or...I don't know. It just spins the loading animation for a fraction of a second and that's it. No info provided.
Also, if you can, try to Edit your posts rather than always creating new ones. It's easier to read and follow, in my opinion. Just a suggestion.
So far so good. I like my One Action. The updates are really not that fast. That would probably be my only "complaint". But other than that, I'm pretty happy with it. Of course, your milage may vary. ) Since it depends on your expectation and your specific use case.
I don't expect it to make me french fries in the morning. It's a mid-range phone and the software definitely helps. Battery life it's been pretty good for me, too. I usually get 2 days out of it with moderate use. And three days with low usage. Anyway, if you're a heavy user, you should get at least a full day out of it.
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https://www.phonemore.com/models/motorola/one-action/
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That site only lists 3 models: CT2013-1 through -3
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Also, how do you like the One Action? The only reason I want to get the global version is because I want the Android One program. The XT2013-4 from the United States is not the Android One version, and I know how slow Motorola is for regular updates.
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Except for the Camera quality, everything is quite decent. However, if you're more into flashing recoveries and custom ROMs then you'll be left disappointed, considering it has Exynos chipset. And for the same reason, it quite difficult to get hold of a working GCam, with even basic functionalities.
Moreover, Android One is the major factor why I went ahead with this device. However, half of Feb has passed, and we are still stuck on December Security Patch! All in all, nothing's going right for Moto One Action at this moment
EDIT: @diggyphil Sorry for the late reply.. I tried entering the IMIE on the t-mobile site, but it doesn't show anything whatsoever..just load and refresh and it repeats the process.
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Except for the Camera quality, everything is quite decent. However, if you're more into flashing recoveries and custom ROMs then you'll be left disappointed, considering it has Exynos chipset. And for the same reason, it quite difficult to get hold of a working GCam, with even basic functionalities.
Moreover, Android One is the major factor why I went ahead with this device. However, half of Feb has passed, and we are still stuck on December Security Patch! All in all, nothing's going right for Moto One Action at this moment
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Nah, I was thinking of just having this one as a backup. I have a OnePlus 7 Pro that is my daily driver, which will be a very difficult breaking up period when it happens (it's an amazing phone)! I had the Xiaomi Mi A2 Lite as my backup phone, and it seemed to get updates every 1.5-2 months. I think they advertise Android One as monthly updates, but in actuality it is more like every 2 months.
Any chance you could validate your IMEI on the T-Mobile website and see what information it displays about the service? https://www.t-mobile.com/resources/bring-your-own-phone
Is there a secret code to turn on or off VoWifi on Motorola One?
There might be. And even if there isn't there are apps and ways to get access to that specific setting.
BUT, short answer is: if your carrier supports it, and if it's baked into the OS, you'll see the option anyway. If it's not there for you, it means you can't turn it on. And even if you try to force it, it would still not work, since it needs support from both the carrier and the manufacturer.
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The strange thing for me was that VoLTE and Wi-Fi Calling do not work on XT2013-2 with Telekom.de (Germany) on reteu firmware. I have checked on my mother's phone, which is the same model and it also does not show the options.
After flashing mine to RETAIL 10.0 firmware instead of reteu, both work out of the box.
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The strange thing for me was that VoLTE and Wi-Fi Calling do not work on XT2013-2 with Telekom.de (Germany) on reteu firmware. I have checked on my mother's phone, which is the same model and it also does not show the options.
After flashing mine to RETAIL 10.0 firmware instead of reteu, both work out of the box.
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In my case however, with the same firmware (but different country and carrier), I lost both Volte and Vowifi after flashing. The options are there. They just don't do anything. So...lucky you! )
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Yup, it supports both.... Although do check with your Carrier once as well..... If you are an Indian user, then currently Jio and Airtel supports it.
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Does it have carrier aggregation in jio and airtel?
Hello Everyone
I have a OnePlus 7T and would like to retrofit esim support with a product called "eSIM.me". So far there are not many phones with native eSIM support. "eSIM.me" allows retrofitting Android phones with "eSIM" capability via the SIM slot. It uses an app to load eSIM profiles onto the chip.
eSIMs are interesting, as they allow buying virtual roaming packages over the Internet. This can reduce a lot of hassle when traveling to foreign countries, as packages can be bought in advance for cheap. There are even affordable packages that cover many countries.
"eSIM.me" uses an API called UICC / OMAPI. These APIs are also used by NFC payment apps, as seen in this feature request to OnePlus. Some OEMs have included OMAPI support (Google, Samsung, Nokia, Huawei), while other have not yet, like OnePlus. Reports indicate that OnePlus might have added it in their Android 12 based Oxygen OS. "eSIM.me" offers an app to check compatibility.
So far I could not find a ROM which included OMAPI / UICC support. Maybe required services could be ported from other devices, or OS versions. A while back @androcheck released a Magisk module in this area.
Are there known ways of adding this support? Might a ROM developer already be working on this? This functionality would likely be interesting for more OnePlus devices than just the 7T.
Thank you for any ideas