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How do I know if my Desire is rooted?

I bought a handset off another forum a couple of months back and I think it's a fully unbranded handset, and have been trying to run the 2.2 update, except everytime I get to the green sync symbol after it restarts, I then get a red question mark.
I'm running
Firmware 2.1 update1
Build number .1.1.405.2 CL174215 release keys
Software number 1.21.405.2
So is this rooted? Either way, how do I get the Froyo update to work?
Many thanks!

normalnix said:
I bought a handset off another forum a couple of months back and I think it's a fully unbranded handset, and have been trying to run the 2.2 update, except everytime I get to the green sync symbol after it restarts, I then get a red question mark.
I'm running
Firmware 2.1 update1
Build number .1.1.405.2 CL174215 release keys
Software number 1.21.405.2
So is this rooted? Either way, how do I get the Froyo update to work?
Many thanks!
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You will know if it is rooted cos you wont be able to pull it out the ground lol
Only jokin if you phone is rooted you will have a program in your apps called super user.
hope this helps

I have something called superuser permissions. Is that it? As you can gather, I'm a bit of a thicky so an idiots guide would be great!

normalnix said:
I have something called superuser permissions. Is that it? As you can gather, I'm a bit of a thicky so an idiots guide would be great!
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Yeah thats the one your phone is rooted

Ok. That answers the first part I guess then. Any ideas how I get to Froyo? I can download the update, but it always fails to do it's thing.
Do I have to restore the phone or what? And how?

is your phone branded in any way? even a start up logo ?
and where can you download the update? from system software updates on your phone?

There's no branding on the phone, box or software. I can download the update via software updates.
PS. Thanks for the help so far!

If you can download it from software updates go for it froyo here we go,
no branding is a good sign

Just try updating via the update manager as that should work.

LOL
That's the problem. It doesn't work!

Same thing with me....
I bought a Telstra Branded Handset. Had a company root and install a generic rom. (Telstra handset because it works on ATT 3G.) This morning, the phone told me that I had an Android Software Update (Version 2.2). The phone downloaded it, but wouldn't install. I imagine because the dang thing is rooted.
I will wait a few days for someone to offer a desire rom with 2.2 and HTC sense.

Is there an easy way to restore the handset to it's original software so I can upgrade from there?

Look for the Unrooting guide in the (sticky) guides collection. I believe it just involves flashing a stock rom. But currently you won't be able to root your phone after official OTA froyo update, since it flashes your hboot too. Alternatively you can flash a rooted froyo ROM without hboot.
Edit: Look in development forum for the sticky guide. The place to be for topics like this; it makes them obsolete.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Many thanks!
For further info, see 'How to Unroot your HTC Desire to stock' in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6710092&postcount=4
It took a bit of time to download all the updates, but I got there in the end.

My Desire is rooted, 2.1, not 2.2 Froyo, I wish. But I am trying to things in the file management like install and move around apk files. But it wont allow saying I have no permissions. Rooted to me means God access, but its not really god access. Any ideas why?

jontokyo said:
My Desire is rooted, 2.1, not 2.2 Froyo, I wish. But I am trying to things in the file management like install and move around apk files. But it wont allow saying I have no permissions. Rooted to me means God access, but its not really god access. Any ideas why?
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Even if you are rooted, you will have READ ONLY access to /system due to NAND protection. You can only write to /system from recovery.
Regards,
Dave

hi
i am new to andriod rom i am using htc desire hd how do i found that my phone is rooted or not please help thanks in advance

nagagaya said:
i am new to andriod rom i am using htc desire hd how do i found that my phone is rooted or not please help thanks in advance
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2nd post. If you have a superuser app, you are rooted.

[Q] OTA update doesn't work

Hi everyone!
This is the situation:
I got my unlocked HTC Desire HD from an authorized store but when I started it (at home) I've noticed that is branded from T-mobile Germany.
Since I use a Vodafone SIM, I decided to unbranded it. So I installed this stock ROM: RUU_Ace_HTC_WWE_1.32.405.6_Radio_12.28b.60.140e_26 .03.02.26_M_release_155891_signed. I followed the steps described in a thread on this forum, using Visionary and One click S-OFF tool. Everything was just fine. My device works without any problem except one: can't find OTA updates.
WHAT COULD IT BE? IS THERE SOMETHING I COULD MAKE TO RESOLVE THIS ISSUE?
Thank you in advance,
joaquin

As far as I know, once you have s-off and root and a custom Rom installed, the ota update will not work. If you want the update you will need to install a custom Rom running the new update.
Sent from my Desire HD using Tapatalk

I understood that the stock ROM is not a customized ROM.
And I checked in bootloader and the first row looks like this:
ACE PVT SHIP S-ON
Doesn't this mean that my device has S-ON?
Is it possible that my device to be still rooted? If yes, is there a solution to make it unrooted?
Joquin

To be more specific, when i say can't find OTA updates, I mean I don't receive notification about updates and when I manually check it says "There are no updates available for your phone."

Do you know which CID you have on phone?
I had rooted, Eng S-Off and Radio S-Off (Super CID-11111111) on phone and phone found OTA update. Although I didn't tried to install it since in that way I'll be loosing root.

If I understand correctly youre still on 1.32 and you want to aquire root and S-OFF AND you want to update to 1.72?
If that is what you want, you will not be needing a prompt from your phone to update the system, because that way you will not be keeping root/S-OFF after the update.
Ensure you have BOTH Eng S-OFF and Radio S-OFF and you did temproot with visionary+. Check IVO's refference thread for that.
Its gotta work.
Then, for updating the phone correctly, take your time to read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=885996
its not an easy guide for beginners (such as myself), but if you read the entire thread you will eventually get out. I did too.

I'm sorry, but I don't know where to find the CID number.
In the bootloader doesn't appear.
Joaquin

@maurei
I know if I will update to 1.72 is not possible to root at this moment and probably I will not make this update. But I want the OTA updates working not only for now.
Thank you anyaway
Joaquin

ah, hit quick reply instead of edit I guess.. soz for the dubble post, del this one

Thats what I'm saying my friend - you CAN have root AND 1.72
Its not possible to root fromin 1.72, but it IS possible to maintain root as you upgrade from 1.32 to 1.72 .
Reading my previous post made me realize it wasn't so clear.
maurei said:
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Then, for updating the phone correctly, take your time to read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=885996
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I meant:
Then, for updating (=manually installing the update through recoverymode) the phone correctly (correctly =MAINTAINING ROOT and S-OFF), follow that guide.
Be sure you have ENG S-OFF and Radio S-OFF + permroot with Visionary+.
Also, be sure not to remove any preinstalled apps as this will cause unnecessary problems during the install

Sorry if I wasn't able to make myself clear.
My goal is not to have a rooted device. Maybe in the future I'll make this step if it will be necesary.
I want my device as new one, from store. I explained in the first post of this thread why I'm in this situation.
Through this thread I want to find a way to get OTA updates.
BTW, I understood that if the device is rooted OTA updates aren't possible. So I installed visionary+ and I used the "unroot now" button and I received this message: "your device doesn't appear to be rooted" or something like this.
It seems is not about unroot or s-on (see the 3rd post, too).
Anyway, if somebody has any idea, it would be apreciated to share.
Thanks,
Joaquin

You should at least get radio s-off before you upgrade. You'll thank me later if you decide you do actually want root.
Sent from my performance enhanced Desire HD

dr.m0x said:
You should at least get radio s-off before you upgrade. You'll thank me later if you decide you do actually want root.
Sent from my performance enhanced Desire HD
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I've read about this and if I'll decide to upgrade I'll do it for sure.
Thanks,
Joaquin

[Q] ROM identification

hello,
i bought HTC Desire A8181 (from carphonewarehouse, UK), it came with 2.1-update 1, now it is 2.2 (2.29.405.5). i want to play with custom ROM. the following questions came to my mind. if I want to go back to untouched ROM? [i have not flashed my fone with custom ROM yet, but I want to. I want to understand the options. its a precautionary step I am taking]
1. how do I identify the RUU number for HTC A8181?
2. what is signed RUU?
3. if rooted with unrevoked3 but not flashed custom ROM can i receive HTC OTA updates?
5. what really changes when i root with unrevoked3?
sorry if my quarries sounds stupid, i am new to android, and learning the way of android.
tanx a lot

RUU = ROM Upgrade Utility
You match it to the version on your phone (2.29.405.5) - simple!!
Here it is:
http://www.mediafire.com/?bbb7m2b4t5jejhm
Or here:
http://www.multiupload.com/LEJCW182AH
Keep it safe
Once rooted you CAN'T get OTA updates as it'll screw things up

mir.nazu said:
hello,
i bought HTC Desire A8181 (from carphonewarehouse, UK), it came with 2.1-update 1, now it is 2.2 (2.29.405.5). i want to play with custom ROM. the following questions came to my mind. if I want to go back to untouched ROM? [i have not flashed my fone with custom ROM yet, but I want to. I want to understand the options. its a precautionary step I am taking]
1. how do I identify the RUU number for HTC A8181?
2. what is signed RUU?
3. if rooted with unrevoked3 but not flashed custom ROM can i receive HTC OTA updates?
5. what really changes when i root with unrevoked3?
sorry if my quarries sounds stupid, i am new to android, and learning the way of android.
tanx a lot
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1) An RUU doesn't have a 'number' I am aware of, generally they are region or network provider specific. So being in England I would use the stock O2, Vodafone, Orange etc, RUU, or use any non-specific WWE (World Wide English) RUU.
2) A signed RUU is one that hasn't been modified and will run on any stock phone, the phone will only let you install a non modified RUU by default, I believe. (My definition maybe a little off here)
3) If you have changed nothing on the phone from stock, you can still recieve OTA updates, yes. Installing a custom ROM will stop you being able to use the OTA update feature.
5, lol) And to quote binary visions from AndroidForums
Rooting it doesn't fundamentally change the phone (it only provides the ability to fundamentally change the phone)
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Essentially it's just an app in the app drawer than enables you to have administrative control over your phone. If you never use a program that requires 'root' access as it's known, It'll do nothing. If a program requires 'root' access, it'll just give you the ability to run it. Kinda like a school that locks the Control Panel on Windows from the school kids, stopping them from changing screen resolution and messing about with the PC.

EddyOS said:
RUU = ROM Upgrade Utility
You match it to the version on your phone (2.29.405.5) - simple!!
Here it is:
http://www.mediafire.com/?bbb7m2b4t5jejhm
Or here:
http://www.multiupload.com/LEJCW182AH
Keep it safe
Once rooted you CAN'T get OTA updates as it'll screw things up
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Eddy, is this ruu rootable ? what hboot does it give you, please ? can it be s-offed with alpharev 1.8 ?

1. Yes
2. HBOOT 0.93
3. Yes

re
thanks EddyOS and Kalavere.
I m feeling a bit confidant now.
but......................................
what is the meaning
[Kalavere] "If you have changed nothing on the phone from stock, you can still recieve OTA updates" (no custom rom)
and
[EddyOS] "Once rooted you CAN'T get OTA updates as it'll screw things up"
another stupid question - if i install any custom rom will it change IMEI no?
if i install RUU after, will it change IMEI no. (will any device specific number change)?
tanxa lot

IMEI can't be changed as it's hardcoded onto the phone
Once rooted it's not recommended to accept an OTA update, it'll remove root but not be 100% unrooted and cause more issues than it's worth so don't do it

OTA update

Hi, yesterday i got a massage that i can download new ota update 2.29... i've decided not to dwnl. it cause phone is rooted but it is on custom rom and i have data to sd as it says in my signature. Quest. is, what hapend in that case when upgradeing?
htc desire data2sd

Never apply OTA on rooted phones!
You most likely will mess up your phone.
If you want the changes from the update either use the matching RUU or find a custom rom based on that version.
Oh and your signature is empty.

Thx, for reply. It is the main problem i can't decide what is the compatibile rom. I know it is verry newbe quest but it so hard for me to get it on cause there is so much of everything that can brick the phone. As much as i read that less i understand. Can't find the rom that is up to date and that it is compatibile. Don't know how to decide which is ok. About signature, english isn't my native lang. and it is hard to find the right expression .
htc desire data2sd

There isn't that much that can brick your phone, people use the word brick to much for every little problem they have. As far as I know there are only three ways to brick a phone:
Hardware damage
Faulty radio install
Messing up the hboot
There might be more but can't think of any other right now. Non of these are relevant to you right now.
For all the desire compatible rom's check this thread. StarBurst is probably your best bet if you want to keep the normal Sense. Make sure to read the thread for requirements and instructions.

Thank you for your patiente, one more newbie q. I can`t find on the google how to see which recovery mode do i have? There i see some notes to whatch out with which recovery to oprate but i can`t find how to see which version is mine.

Just boot in recovery, there should be a line telling what recovery it is. Most likely you have CWM 2.5.0.7.

You are right once again . So from now on i should find the newest rom. Is gingerbred for desire yet out and should it be something much better then those roms you've sugest me in the privious post? As i saw on the forum those custom roms are eaven more up to date and provide more options than those "original" roms, and another confusing thing is that in star burst is option to update ota, is this correct or i do not understand it correctly?
htc desire data2sd

Same concern here:
I've rooted the phone, I've installed Rom Manager, wasn't convinced to install any ROM. How this will affect the OTA update ?
To be honest I'm waiting for the official 2.3 from HTC and I've rooted the phone mainly to get access to some Market software unavailable outside the US (maps, voice actions, etc).
I've also unlocked the phone using seempi's method.

If you're rooted you can't apply the OTA, simple as that.
If you want OTAs then you'll need to go back to stock

Whats the full version number of ota update?
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

[Q] rooting desire hd doesn't work?

Last night I've upgraded my Desire HD android 2.3 (the official update from htc)
I've waited with rooting my device until the official update came out.
I've tried rooting with visionary, but it doesn't seem to work. :s
I haven't tried rooting on an other way yet, but is it possible I'm not able to root my device yet because it's running on gingerbread now?
Or won't there ever be a way to root it?
I hope I'll get a quick answer, I'm quite a newbie to this and I'd like to have my device rooted!

Daenekindternational said:
Last night I've upgraded my Desire HD android 2.3 (the official update from htc)
I've waited with rooting my device until the official update came out.
I've tried rooting with visionary, but it doesn't seem to work. :s
I haven't tried rooting on an other way yet, but is it possible I'm not able to root my device yet because it's running on gingerbread now?
Or won't there ever be a way to root it?
I hope I'll get a quick answer, I'm quite a newbie to this and I'd like to have my device rooted!
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before to root you must to downgrade your device,, but mate... browse "downgrade dhd" in the XDA browser avobe... i´m sure that your going to find it quickly...

Daenekindternational said:
Last night I've upgraded my Desire HD android 2.3 (the official update from htc)
I've waited with rooting my device until the official update came out.
I've tried rooting with visionary, but it doesn't seem to work. :s
I haven't tried rooting on an other way yet, but is it possible I'm not able to root my device yet because it's running on gingerbread now?
Or won't there ever be a way to root it?
I hope I'll get a quick answer, I'm quite a newbie to this and I'd like to have my device rooted!
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take this link its the same question answered few posts ago...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1064229
use the browse before (my recomendation) its faster that post an ask
cheers and sorry for my bad english buddy!!

Do I need to downgrade to android 2.2 again (or something, sorry I'm totally new at this) before I can root my device?
So there's no way to root it when it's still has gingerbread?

Daenekindternational said:
Do I need to downgrade to android 2.2 again (or something, sorry I'm totally new at this) before I can root my device?
So there's no way to root it when it's still has gingerbread?
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nope.. the only one rom rootable its 1.32xxx WEE OFICIAL RUU
BUT DON´T WORRY DOWNGRADE ITS AN EASY STEP..
if you need help post again in Q&A mate...

First, I need to downgrade (but I don't understand the gold card)
Then I need to root
Then I need it to be s-off? And then I can install custom recoveries (= custom roms??), but what if I don't want custom roms?
If I just want to tweak a bit with the gingerbread+sense version I have at the moment (changing icons in notification bar, changing bootscreen etc), do I still need to continue with the s-off step?
Or can I only tweak with the things I want if I have a custom rom?

Daenekindternational said:
First, I need to downgrade (but I don't understand the gold card)
Then I need to root
Then I need it to be s-off? And then I can install custom recoveries (= custom roms??), but what if I don't want custom roms?
If I just want to tweak a bit with the gingerbread+sense version I have at the moment (changing icons in notification bar, changing bootscreen etc), do I still need to continue with the s-off step?
Or can I only tweak with the things I want if I have a custom rom?
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okay let´s do it...
if you want to flash later another different baseband (radio) you need s-off & you must to continue doing it... (with Radio s-off tool... etc..)
but its not neccesary for to flash a new rom...
custom recovery isn´t a rom..
custom rec. its a menú that you need for to flash roms... etc into your machine..
neccesary for recover your system if anything goes badly (IMPORTANT)...
AND FINALLY... you can flash custom roms that are not ported from another device or are not themed etcc... simply are OFFICIAL ROMS (WEE OFFICIAL RUU named) only with root acces, (deodexed, zipaligned...etc for better performance... sometimes upper that 50 % speedup!! )
if you flashes a official rom without root incorporated your going to lose your work (root... recovery,, etc.. but not s-off)
i recommend to you that continue doing s-off and eng-off for obtain "CID 111111" (BROWSE what is this an judge by yourself )