I'm using King's #11 kernel with Fresh's latest. My question is if I flash to Cyanogen 6.1 (when it's released) does the kernel follow to that ROM? I don't want to flash another ROM and run into problems.
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most roms include there own kernel which will over write any existing kernel you have. CM 6.1 I am positive will have a kernel package with it.
It is safe to assume you wont have any issues
Also ... be sure to do a nand back up before flashing the new rom. That will preserve,, not only your rom, but your kernel as well ... just in case you want to return to it.
I have flash ROM Android Revolution HD 4.0_beta4 & after first complete start i have flash with Buzz_Sense_1.3.8.2_OC+.
With the same method of flashing a rom but after flashing kernel my phone performance speed decreases & the four keys at bottom stop working, after setting setcpu to 1612MHz the problem remains same.
Plz help.
There are no custom kernels for GB sense quite yet (source not yet released); reflash the ROM so you get the original kernel back, and check with the chefs before flashing kernels and other flashables that aren't supported.
Do all kernells work with all roms???
an does this kernel http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=682419
work with the rom:RCMixHD
No,ASOP kernels are for ASOP roms like Oxygen,CM7,DeFrost (= non-Sense UI ROMs) and Sense kernels are for ROMs with Sense UI. RCMix is Sense ROM. No shure about that kernel,but it seems like krenel for non-Sense ROMs.
asop kernels work for roms like cm7, redux, ginervillian etc. senmse kernels work for sense roms like leedroid 2.2. rcsmixhd is a 2.3.3 gingersense rom which needs a gingersense kernel. so far, there is only the leaked gingersense kernel. thats it thats all. youll have 2 wait until the official kernel source code is released b4 they can creaate custom overclocked undervolted kernels
Sorry to interfear in Ts's topic, but i thought my question is somewhat realated.
Are the kernals included in the roms. or do you have to flash a apropriat kernal yourselve?
Same question goes for radio and i flashed a wifi N thingy my previous rom advised. do i have to undo those things before installing a new rom?
lnodder: custom ROMs include kernels already, but you always have the option of flashing a differenet kernel. Be careful to distinguish what kind of kernel you're flashing vis-a-vis what ROM you have (Sense, non-Sense, etc)
Radios by and large don't need to be flashed/reflashed if they're working fine. Flashing radios improperly is one of the biggest causes of bricked cellphones.
Okay thnx for the info.
But in case of an update from froyo to gingerbread. you do need to update the radio?
At least here the dev. states "Requirement:
Latest Radio 32.56.00.32U_5.17.05.08"
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lnodder: custom ROMs include kernels already, but you always have the option of flashing a differenet kernel. Be careful to distinguish what kind of kernel you're flashing vis-a-vis what ROM you have (Sense, non-Sense, etc)
Radios by and large don't need to be flashed/reflashed if they're working fine. Flashing radios improperly is one of the biggest causes of bricked cellphones.
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Hi,
I own a Bell Desire Z (Canada). I'm new to rooting and I've been checking out this forums for a few days. I'm wanting to root my phone shortly and I'm wondering which ROM I should use.
My motivations for changing my ROM is mostly because I :
a) Can't stand the HTC skin anymore because it's waaaay too unresponsive
b) I want to get a more optimized OS
c) I want to increase my phone and mobile internet signals, if possible
I've came to the conclusion that EXT4 is the best recovery but I'm still confused about ROMs for Desire Z. How can I compare ROMs against each other ? For example, why is there so many different Andromadus ROMs? I read minicry was good, but I see the tests ones (JB if I'm not mistaken) and there's also Audacity, etc.
I don't want to lose features (GPS, Camera, Bluetooth). The cam is a little less important but I'd still rather keep it.
I'm also having a hard time understanding the radios "roms" (is it a rom too? I'd guess so). Is it a good idea to change it. If yes, what's the benefits, where can I find them for the Desire Z, are they the same for the G2, how can I know which are compatible with my carrier, etc. Is there any thread for up to date Desire Z radios?
Thanks a lot.
4ext is, in my opinion, the best recovery for our device; as for ROMs, it's best to just try them out for yourself. Cyanogenmod is the most one of the most widely used ROMs for a reason, it's solid and heavily supported however, there are many based off of CM that offer even better speed at the expense of eye candy.
As for radios (which aren't ROMs but basically device drivers), there is a thread that is stickied in the dev forum with all available radios. Updating your radio can offer better reception and better battery life but, it depends on your carrier and location as to which is best.
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Since people on XDA are [often] tragically uninformed, I'll give you the scoop on ICS/JB ROMs specifically. I apologize in advance for being uninformed myself about the HTC Sense-based ROMs available. I gave up on Sense a long time ago
Since you seem a bit keen to know more about AOSP based ROMS, the two types of AOSP based ROMs available for our device are AOKP and CM9. Andromadus Audacity and the ROM titled "CyanogenMod 9 RC2" (currently) are both based as much on CM9 as possible. They use as many of the CM9 branches as possible filling in the missing pieces where necessary. Those missing pieces are device specific branches that CyanogenMod currently does not provide for our device. The ROM titled CM9 RC2 by jerl92 is as much unofficial CM9 as Andromadus Audacity. The only difference is that jerl92 named his ROM "CyanogenMod", and as such people are under the impression it's more CM9 than Andromadus Audacity, when that's simply not the case. Both ROMs use the Andromadus kernel by fyodor (as a base), as does the AOKP ROM by adamz667. That said, the Andromadus ROMs, jerl92's CM9 ROM and AOKP are the only ROMs for our device based on compiled Android source code.
As for the other Andromadus ROMs, the Test Builds are alpha Jelly Bean builds based on CM10 primarily put together by Flinny and the rest of the Andromadus dev team (though at this point mostly darkspadez, fyodor, Flemmard -- I've done very little myself w/ JB so far).
Andromadus Mimicry is Andromadus Audacity, which means it's CyanogenMod 9. The difference is I've branched off half a dozen branches and have tried to add features specific to our device as well as community requests on XDA/IRC. Mimicry will move to CM10/JB when it's matured enough to provide a ROM experience similar to what we've achieved with CM9/ICS.
As for radios, search XDA for the .19 radio (as it's typically called). Look up EdKeys' thread and flash the radio/rcdata package for .19 and be done with it. You only have to flash it once and the .19 radio works great on Bell/Telus/Rogers' networks.
Thanks a lot for clarifying all this, I wasn't aware of the how the branching worked for specific devices.
I get it you are the developer of the Mimicry branch and that's what I'll go with.
I still haven't got the time to root my phone but reading further I realized in the XDA wiki that the Clockwork Recovery was flash using a gfree command and passing an img file as a parameter. However, looking at 4ext recovery, I could only find a package installer (apk). How do should I flash the 4ext recovery then?
I was also wondering if there's any guide on how to install Mimicry? I've downloaded the 2 files (the actual image and gapps). I have absolutely no idea what to do with those files.
Thanks a lot!
You might have to use CWM during the root process but, after that you can download 4ext Installer and flash 4ext. As far as installing a ROM, you'd do that via recovery by selecting "install from zip file" (or whatever similar option is in the recovery you're using)
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Hello, I will put here a few of my thoughts regarding your issue.
I am using clockworkmod recovery all the time and did not have any issues flashing/backup/restoring etc on my Desire Z, when you root you firstly end up using clockwork mod recovery, so you can as well stick to it - it does all you need. It text by text interface and it's to me - easy to use and clear. Once you have a rooted phone and you are able to boot into cwm recovery, you put a ZIP with your ROM on your SD, as well as your google apps for ICS, you navigate into clockworkmod's menu, press "install zip from SD card", find the ROM ZIP, and install. You do the same with gapps zip before you reboot. Simple as that.
Now for the ROMs. I personally am in favor of Andromadus Mimicry 1.4 ROM. It's the fastest, most complete (every device feature like camera/gps/etc works) Ice Cream Sandwich ROM out there, comes with a pre-installed memory optimizer script, so it's really really smooth and fast, it comes with a nice graphical and feature rich installer (similar to PC installers to be honest), you can manually chose which feature to install during that, and also is equipped with the .19 radio (which you also can chose upon installation), which boosted my GPS signal and my GSM signal by far. Seriously, this is to me the best ICS ROM out there for our Desire Z. It looks and feels great.
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Hello, I will put here a few of my thoughts regarding your issue.
I am using clockworkmod recovery all the time and did not have any issues flashing/backup/restoring etc on my Desire Z, when you root you firstly end up using clockwork mod recovery, so you can as well stick to it - it does all you need. It text by text interface and it's to me - easy to use and clear. Once you have a rooted phone and you are able to boot into cwm recovery, you put a ZIP with your ROM on your SD, as well as your google apps for ICS, you navigate into clockworkmod's menu, press "install zip from SD card", find the ROM ZIP, and install. You do the same with gapps zip before you reboot. Simple as that.
Now for the ROMs. I personally am in favor of Andromadus Mimicry 1.4 ROM. It's the fastest, most complete (every device feature like camera/gps/etc works) Ice Cream Sandwich ROM out there, comes with a pre-installed memory optimizer script, so it's really really smooth and fast, it comes with a nice graphical and feature rich installer (similar to PC installers to be honest), you can manually chose which feature to install during that, and also is equipped with the .19 radio (which you also can chose upon installation), which boosted my GPS signal and my GSM signal by far. Seriously, this is to me the best ICS ROM out there for our Desire Z. It looks and feels great.
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Are you stuck on the idea of using an ICS or JB ROM? I have tried Mimicry 1.4.0 and the JB test builds, as well as EliteMod ICS, but have settled for now on the the EliteMod CM7, and find it very good...fast, stable, all apps in working order, low battery usage. No, the available launchers are not quite up to Apex...but for me it's not about aesthetics, just functionality. There's a thread about it in the Android development section:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1246682
Flashing the .19 radio is easy and very good. It _is_ a separate step from ROM flashing...the files are downloadable from the EdKeys thread mentioned above...start reading here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=970809
4EXT recovery is found here:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ext.recovery.control
good luck,
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Hello all. First I want to thank everyone for still being around to help, especially on such an old device.
Anyway, I recently bought one of these and got it rooted via odin. Currently that's all I've done to her. I have been looking over this forum, android forums, and Google in general prior to posting, I want to solve problems on my own, but when I can't, I'm not scared to ask for help. And I need help with a few issues. I will seperate them, to make answering them easier.
1) is twrp not available for this model?
2) if not, the only other recoverys I can find is Phils TouchWiz, and ClockworkMod recovery touch 5.8.1.5. I wouldn't think these are the same, which is suggested? Also Phils Touchwiz was last updated (that I can find) to 4.1.2 which is where I currently am, am I want to go to 4.4
3) I only see 2 ROMs listed on here, and 1 is one of the ones I was thinking of using in Dirty Unicorns. The other I was thinking about was CyanogenMod. Which of these two is suggested?
4) I have no service on this phone, as its my tinkering device. The only thing I need to work is WiFi. That being said, do I need to flash a new modem?
Do I need to flash a new kernel?
Thanks for any help you can throw me. I know there are lots of tuts for all these questions, but frankly they are all very old, and this stuff changes by the day...
1. Yes but this device has recovery and kernel built in together, this recovery is only for flashing / wiping, other than that, it is not usable with other custom roms unless the devs build it to use that
recovery along with the kernel.
2. It's the same as question 1, For Touchwiz Jellybean, you'll need a recovery kernel that supports the android version and firmware, otherwise it wouldn't work or boot up, Agat's Source GB27 for GB27 Touchwiz ROMs. Or specific AOSP Kernels for certain kernel build updates ( versions are compatible with the build date of the ROM's Original Kernel, meaning it only works on certain ROMs that are updated with the same kernel build, for example, A custom 0.0.25 will not work with stock 0.0.26 because there was a major update change in the kernel that'll make 0.0.25 not usable on it. If you use a kernel based on a specific date on an AOSP ROM that frequently updates the kernel, it may not boot up. )
3. The AOSP ROMs that are being updated at the moment are the Teams that do Nightlies. So Cyanogenmod is the only AOSP ROM that's being updated weekly for this device, I have not checked on the other ones.
4. No need to flash a modem if you don't have data service, however it may help either way when using WiFi due to dropped connections, stability etc. For AOSP, use any ICS modem, for Touchwiz, use the same android firmware modem.
Flashing a new kernel is not needed unless you don't like how the stock kernel performs whether if it's power saving or performance. AOSP kernels are kind of limited as the ones out now work with different build dates of the ROMs, Touchwiz has a couple, but Agat63's Source Kernel is recommended by everyone for GB27.