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Hi guys
I recently got hold of a Samsung i9000 Galaxy S, and i have to say im rather dissapointed.
The lag issue, which none of the lag fixes really actually stop, is so annoying, GPS not working as im one of the unfortunate people who have this issue is another annoyance
The screen is fantastic however, and the music player is aweseome with its equilizer.
However i use my phone for numerous things, media is one thing, GPS also as i dont see the need to buy a seperate sat nav when my phone "should have it",
Now i am going to wait until the official Froyo release from samsung before making any decision.
Right stop my moaning and here are my questions
i have been offered in exchange a sim Free Desire, plus a 16gb Class 6 sdcard, all boxed.
The one thing that worries me about going down the Desire route is how long is this handset gonna last.
Looking at benchmarks the i9000 creams the desire (with lag fix) in pretty much everything, i know this is down to the pretty poor Adreno 200 GPU on snapdragon as linpack shows the snapdragon FPU is better, Quadrant over 2200 currently on my SGS
in gaming terms for the future how long is this gonna last? can i expect games that are released in 6 months from now to run flawlessly? i know its hard for people to see into the future! but NEed for speed seems to run pretty much identically to my SGS, so im wondering if its all down to optimization on both chipsets
also gingerbread? a definate yes? or have HTC still not announced if Desire will be getting it
Samsung wont give any answers on this whatsoever
Also what would you guys do?
The samsung guys say "stay with it" but i want opinions from both camps
Cheers
You are on the same point I was a few weeks ago, well I wasn't offered in exchange by someone but the store owner offered to change it for me. Honestly, I'd say go for it. Samsung's software is crap, Desire has a lot better development community. Not to mention you get HTC Sense. Now one warning, Desire doesn't got true multi-touch, it got pinch support but thats about as far as the multi-touch goes. I tired playing Real Football 2010 with a Desire and it was a crap experience. People have reported Quadrant benchmarks of almost 1800 via OCed kernel and custom ROMs, if you really want to get down to that point but honestly it doesn't make a difference.
And HTC still hasn't announced if Desire is getting Gingerbread but there is a good chance the ROM community will be able to get it running. Plus Samsung still hasn't released Froyo, so I don't see a bright future of Gingerbread coming from them.
Now, GPS on Desire is damn good. It works as good as my 2 year old satnav if not better(It usually gets the fix better, I gave my satnav away ).
Honestly the handset has a good life-time to last, HTC Hero is still doing pretty good so Desire should do good as well was another year or more. Even if HTC may drop the support we have people here giving new life to the device.
My opinion: go for it! Desire is a great phone / smartphone.
The more I use it, the better it is.
Make sure you do a hard reset when you get it...
im seriously 50/50 on this, and now my time frame has been shortened, my mate wants to know by tomorrow otherwise he is ebaying it (mates eh!?)
Benchmarks are not the be all and end all, its bragging rights i suppose.
one thing that is seriously tipping me back to HTC is the support and community development, Samsungs own support is utterly awful, Kies is the worst piece of software i have ever ever used, and no OTA?! what the hell is that about.
As for HTC back in the day when i had my hero, ok there was delays but at least they kept people in the loop, one of my biggest annoyences is not being advised anything from samsung other than "we are working on it"
i dont hold out anyfaith that the filesystem will be sorted out with froyo, i mean it says alot when the XDA guys can fix it, but Samsung dont seem to even ackowledge the fact the software is naff!
i thought the desire had true multi touch? Does this mean playing psx4droid is a poor experiance?
No, it doesn't got true multi-touch. If the x1 intersects with y2 or x2 with y1 it goes haywire. It doesn't have gorilla glass either. But the community of HTC Desire is far better than Galaxy S from my experience, we don't have to use Kies or similar crap either(It was a PITA to get Kies to even recognize my phone, took me well over 4 hours and a lot of headaches), we got OTA! .
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No, it doesn't got true multi-touch. If the x1 intersects with y2 or x2 with y1 it goes haywire. It doesn't have gorilla glass either. But the community of HTC Desire is far better than Galaxy S from my experience, we don't have to use Kies or similar crap either(It was a PITA to get Kies to even recognize my phone, took me well over 4 hours and a lot of headaches), we got OTA! .
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Glad you share my view on Kies, i honestly have never had such issues flashing a firmware, at least with Odin it did what it says on the tin
ok well im pushing more towards the desire, i just HOPE that its as much as an enjoyable process playing PSX games on psx4droid as it is on the Galaxy S, i do alot of travelling and i spend most of that time on trains playing FF7
If you want to do gaming stick with the galaxy s the desire isn't very good for that. Maybe 2.2 for the galaxy s will resolve your issues. I love the desire its a great phone but its horrible for gaming.
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it all depends how much more powerfull the new version of adreno is, obviously developers are still going to develop games for the arm cpu and adreno inparticular, imo i think our gpu will be able to play the games developed for newer versions of adreno but maybe not flawlessly .............. as far as gingerbread goes, the desire will never get it officially as htc are more intrested in supporting what will be then there current generation of devices, but as the desire and n1 are almost identical, and the n1 being googles official developer device, they are sure to get gingerbread, so we maybe we will be the first device to get working custom roms
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it all depends how much more powerfull the new version of adreno is, obviously developers are still going to develop games for the arm cpu and adreno inparticular, imo i think our gpu will be able to play the games developed for newer versions of adreno but maybe not flawlessly .............. as far as gingerbread goes, the desire will never get it officially as htc are more intrested in supporting what will be then there current generation of devices, but as the desire and n1 are almost identical, and the n1 being googles official developer device, they are sure to get gingerbread, so we maybe we will be the first device to get working custom roms
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I never thought of it like that actually regarding future android updates, basically the N1 is the same hardware as the desire, just lacking a little bit of Ram i believe, so shouldnt be too difficult to port over a rom
you sir have just tipped the scales again!
If you care about gaming stick with SGS..devs are even stopping games for desire ( see n.o.v.a) due to the multitouch bug and the the GPU isn't even remotely close to sgs's..Desire's 720p is a big pile of disappointment as well,no matter what rom you try..
other than that it is a fantastic phone...also unique feel as you hold it in your palm..its ergonomy is amazing, even ip4 doesn't sit as well in the hand as desire does..
Your right about the iPhone 4 it is a pain to hold now lol (not about the signal "issue") the edges are Sharp.
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I have a Desire & my friend has a Galaxy S.
I would say the Samsung has a better screen. However:
The Desire is a better over all device, software wise and build quality wise. Oh and it has more ram.
However, if gaming is a serious thing for you, I suggest you stay with the Samsung because they really do have the most powerful mobile GPU.
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I have a Desire & my friend has a Galaxy S.
I would say the Samsung has a better screen. However:
The Desire is a better over all device, software wise and build quality wise. Oh and it has more ram.
However, if gaming is a serious thing for you, I suggest you stay with the Samsung because they really do have the most powerful mobile GPU.
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In respects to gaming its not gaming as such, i mean angry birds beta from the market, any gpu should play that, im more bothered about PSX emulation at this point, my sgs is superb with psx4droid, where as the videos i have seen on youtube dont say the same story with desire, however these are based on the early versions of the app,
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In respects to gaming its not gaming as such, i mean angry birds beta from the market, any gpu should play that, im more bothered about PSX emulation at this point, my sgs is superb with psx4droid, where as the videos i have seen on youtube dont say the same story with desire, however these are based on the early versions of the app,
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Don't worry about that...psx4droid does not yet support hardware acceleration so all graphics are rendered from the CPU , not the GPU...so they should play it equaly well..well runs fine on my desire..and also i had an hd2 before and used fpsece which supported(and still does) hw acceleration..and run great on hd2 (has snapdragon chip, same as htc desire)..could get 40+fps on tekken 3...which is brillian (does not even run in psx4droid)..
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Don't worry about that...psx4droid does not yet support hardware acceleration so all graphics are rendered from the CPU , not the GPU...so they should play it equaly well..well runs fine on my desire..and also i had an hd2 before and used fpsece which supported(and still does) hw acceleration..and run great on hd2 (has snapdragon chip, same as htc desire)..could get 40+fps on tekken 3...which is brillian (does not even run in psx4droid)..
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Also had a hd2 and it was excellent, just a pitty about winmo 6.5, do you know if there are any plans for GPU acceleration to be implemented for android?
ascottuk said:
Also had a hd2 and it was excellent, just a pitty about winmo 6.5, do you know if there are any plans for GPU acceleration to be implemented for android?
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i think we have crappy drivers for our gpu too, the acer liquid has the same gpu but with a cpu that runs at a lower clockspeed, but apparently the 3d rendering on that device surpasses our device
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i think we have crappy drivers for our gpu too, the acer liquid has the same gpu but with a cpu that runs at a lower clockspeed, but apparently the 3d rendering on that device surpasses our device
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no they do not have a standard snapdragon..
ascottuk said:
Also had a hd2 and it was excellent, just a pitty about winmo 6.5, do you know if there are any plans for GPU acceleration to be implemented for android?
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Truly no idea..the guy is taking it deadly slow..Kiss Yorkshire goodnight from me had a trip 3 years ago and it was the sweetest town ever..
ascottuk said:
Hi guys
I recently got hold of a Samsung i9000 Galaxy S, and i have to say im rather dissapointed.
The lag issue, which none of the lag fixes really actually stop, is so annoying, GPS not working as im one of the unfortunate people who have this issue is another annoyance
The screen is fantastic however, and the music player is aweseome with its equilizer.
However i use my phone for numerous things, media is one thing, GPS also as i dont see the need to buy a seperate sat nav when my phone "should have it",
Now i am going to wait until the official Froyo release from samsung before making any decision.
Right stop my moaning and here are my questions
i have been offered in exchange a sim Free Desire, plus a 16gb Class 6 sdcard, all boxed.
The one thing that worries me about going down the Desire route is how long is this handset gonna last.
Looking at benchmarks the i9000 creams the desire (with lag fix) in pretty much everything, i know this is down to the pretty poor Adreno 200 GPU on snapdragon as linpack shows the snapdragon FPU is better, Quadrant over 2200 currently on my SGS
in gaming terms for the future how long is this gonna last? can i expect games that are released in 6 months from now to run flawlessly? i know its hard for people to see into the future! but NEed for speed seems to run pretty much identically to my SGS, so im wondering if its all down to optimization on both chipsets
also gingerbread? a definate yes? or have HTC still not announced if Desire will be getting it
Samsung wont give any answers on this whatsoever
Also what would you guys do?
The samsung guys say "stay with it" but i want opinions from both camps
Cheers
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id say go for the desire, just won t3 awards phone of the year
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no they do not have a standard snapdragon..
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thats my point!! they have the same gpu running with a 768mhz cpu, and there gpu can do 3D better than ours, read this thread started about overclocking our gpu.....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=8553534#post8553534
I was contemplating on buyin HTC wildfire os SAMSUNG galaxy 3..
PLZ suggest which phone is better??
I require the phone for mainly msgin and net, with a little use fr watching videos and playin the odd games whn i'm bored..
If the galaxy 3 is as bad as the s with lag then go for wildfire
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The Galaxy 3 has a 667 MHz processor.
The Wildfire has a 528 MHz processor.
There will be a really slight unnoticeable difference of speed when playing games.
Galaxy 3 has a 240 x 400 QVGA resolution.
Wildfire has a 240 x 320 QVGA resolution.
Both are the same size.
Galaxy 3 has a 3.15MP camera.
Wildfire has a 5MP camera.
So the Wildfire will take better pictures/videos.
Galaxy 3 has a Li-Ion 1500 mAh battery.
Wildfire has a Li-Ion 1300 mAh battery.
So Galaxy 3 will last a little bit longer.
Its just a choice between their appereance I would say, and the difference between Sense and what Samsung has.
I would go with the Wildfire though.
I tried many of my friends Samsung smarthphones, and they are nothing compared to a Wildfire.
I have both... the advantages of the Galaxy 3 are:
Screen - the screen on the Galaxy 3 has much better definition (higher res) but it is a bit smaller... I sometimes find it difficult to read without glasses lol. It definitely looks a lot better than the Wildfire's screen... especially when viewing webpages (don't need to zoom in as much for the font to become readable).
Processor - it's not that much faster but the phones does seem less laggy than the wildfire. Also skype works fairly ok on the galaxy but breaks up a lot on the wildfire. So there is a difference.
Advantages of the Wildfire? Well everything else lol. Faster 3G, better camera (has a flash too). WAY more custom ROMs to try out (unless you make the mistake of upgrading to the official froyo like I did :| ). The wildfire's screen is also bigger to it's easier to read without glasses. Oh yeah and if you are sticking with official firmware, HTC Sense is a lot more user friendly than Samsung's TouchWiz interface.
In the end I'm probably going to stick with the wildfire until I can afford a desire or something like that.
and the galaxy devices have lag issues (even my tab), and the htc ones are easier to update (OTA or RUU rather than KIES)
And the wildfire is useless at gaming. if you want gaming and dont mind branding and live in the uk look at the orange san fransisco / ZTE blade
Conclusion = The Wildfire fits your requirements the best.
Also, if this is your first ''smarthphone'' I would definitely go with the Wildfire, so much more user friendly like said above.
brilldoctor said:
And the wildfire is useless at gaming. if you want gaming and dont mind branding and live in the uk look at the orange san fransisco / ZTE blade
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I have managed to get Angry Birds run pretty smooth.
And assuming he only wants to play ''odd'' games I'm pretty sure he doesn't mean the 3D games the other phones have.
I dont even bother on thw wildfire - thats why i have the tab
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D3VICE said:
Conclusion = The Wildfire fits your requirements the best.
Also, if this is your first ''smarthphone'' I would definitely go with the Wildfire, so much more user friendly like said above.
I have managed to get Angry Birds run pretty smooth.
And assuming he only wants to play ''odd'' games I'm pretty sure he doesn't mean the 3D games the other phones have.
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Ya i want it fr occasional games..
but hw horrible is it to play the good games on HTC Wildfire??
Achinthya said:
Ya i want it fr occasional games..
but hw horrible is it to play the good games on HTC Wildfire??
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Rope cut works perfectly (cut the rope knock off haha)
Gameboid works well too if you are into old school, and furdiburb works great too. Furdiburb is my favorite pet raising game on android, it's amazing haha.
argeoff said:
Gameboid works well too if you are into old school, and furdiburb works great too. Furdiburb is my favorite pet raising game on android, it's amazing haha.
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I was wonderin hw Asphalt, FIFA n al play on Wildfire??
Achinthya said:
I was wonderin hw Asphalt, FIFA n al play on Wildfire??
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As far as I know, they don't work at all because they are HD (3D) games. Never tried it though
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Achinthya said:
I was wonderin hw Asphalt, FIFA n al play on Wildfire??
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Those run very bad.
Same goes for Galaxy 3.
Prism 3d works ok despite it saying it doesnt
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Wildfire
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I am from India,I am about to purchase Wildfire but just saw a new mobile from Htc called Wildfire S launched along with Desire S.So I just wanted to confirm is their any difference in 2 phones?
Currently I'm with HTC Gene since last 3 years and now really want to upgrade. Will Wildfire be a good option? I read that both having same resolution but will it affect? also is there any phone from HTC in same budget having "front camera"?
I shall be highly obliged if I get any response from you guys!
Regards,
Adi
adwaitk007 the main differences between "our" wildfire and the S are the higher screen resolution and the slightly faster processor. Both of these are very good reasons to buy the S since the "old" wildfire does have a problem there.
However.... For its price there are really good phones out there offering way more than the wildfire S. I dont know which phones are available in india or if you're restricted by a certain carrier but it would be best to make a list of phones around the pricerange of the wildfire and compare their specs against each other. Once you get down to a couple of devices search these forums for problems and or advantages of each device... If you still end up wanting a wildfire... Go for the S
wildfire S just like Aria in wildfire case. Of course, with new sense.
You may want to survey about rooting phone with new hboot if u plan to root it later.
Wildfire versus Wildfire S
Hi. I have been wondering what the main difference is between the Wildfire and Wildfire S too. I have a Wildfire and am based in the UK, not sure whether to upgrade to the new phone.
heavenlyandroid said:
Hi. I have been wondering what the main difference is between the Wildfire and Wildfire S too. I have a Wildfire and am based in the UK, not sure whether to upgrade to the new phone.
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Hi! nice to here from you. I am also planning to buy Wildfire. i just wanted to know if it's a cool phone or not? the reviews at HTC portal pleased me but still wanted to confirm if it works as they mentioned or not! Also wanted to know about the apps,themes,games,such things. whether they are available in good verity? Because I heard that the phone has low resolution so the apps will be less in numbers!
Your reply will surly help me! And yes still wondering about the difference between "S"
Friends i am also a user of wildfire but i would strictly advice you to go for Samsung galaxy ace which is available at the same cost and is really worth every penny u spend and can also be rooted has froyo out of box and is expected to get gingerbread love. has 800Mhz CPU with a adreno gpu so graphics is no problem. and even the screen resolution is HVGA definitely better than wildfire. I wish i had waited for one more month then i could have got this better phone..the only advantage wildfire enjoys is sense interface and nothing else. Had purchased this wildfire in january so cant update right now...but if had the opputunity i would have definately gone for Ace. Both phones are currently available in India within price range of Rs. 13500-15000 Hit thanks if you like my advice
adwaitk007 said:
Hi! nice to here from you. I am also planning to buy Wildfire. i just wanted to know if it's a cool phone or not? the reviews at HTC portal pleased me but still wanted to confirm if it works as they mentioned or not! Also wanted to know about the apps,themes,games,such things. whether they are available in good verity? Because I heard that the phone has low resolution so the apps will be less in numbers!
Your reply will surly help me! And yes still wondering about the difference between "S"
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Wait for the S. App / Game compatibility of the Wildfire is very less because of the QVGA Screen, so, half the apps doesn't show up at all. Also, there is no GPU in it, so, any intensive game won't work at all, or, will play like a slideshow.
Since the Wildfire S is close to release, and, fixes both the above deficiencies (It has a HVGA 480x320 Screen, a faster and newer MSM 7227 600 MHz CPU, and an Adreno 200 GPU (Which, incidentally, is the same as the one in the Desire)), it should certainly be worth waiting for it.
Sum up of differences between Wildfire and S for those that are still confused:
* Wildfire S is slightly smaller than the Wildfire, because, it does not have the optical trackpad.
* The resolution of the S if greater than the Wildfire. (480x320 vs 320x240)
* The CPU of the S is newer and faster (Qualcomm MSM 7227 at 600 MHz vs MSM 7225 at 528 MHz)
* The S has a GPU Chipset. (Qualcomm Adreno 200, Wildfire doesnt have one)
adwaitk007 said:
I am from India,I am about to purchase Wildfire but just saw a new mobile from Htc called Wildfire S launched along with Desire S.So I just wanted to confirm is their any difference in 2 phones?
Currently I'm with HTC Gene since last 3 years and now really want to upgrade. Will Wildfire be a good option? I read that both having same resolution but will it affect? also is there any phone from HTC in same budget having "front camera"?
I shall be highly obliged if I get any response from you guys!
Regards,
Adi
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hey newbie. do u know the process of rooting android phone. ROOTING and then INSTALLING CUSTOM RECOVERY makes users to boost their android phone performance with custom roms. i doubt u havent understood what i said.
first learn something about rooting and custom roms. or else u will regret for what u have done. wildfire and wildfire s and all the newer htc devices are having greater security on the bootloader which makes them almost impossible to root. what u r planning to purchase device comes under POOR ROOT category.
check this out. it helps u a lot.
http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/root_friendly
3xeno said:
Wait for the S. App / Game compatibility of the Wildfire is very less because of the QVGA Screen, so, half the apps doesn't show up at all. Also, there is no GPU in it, so, any intensive game won't work at all, or, will play like a slideshow.
Since the Wildfire S is close to release, and, fixes both the above deficiencies (It has a HVGA 480x320 Screen, a faster and newer MSM 7227 600 MHz CPU, and an Adreno 200 GPU (Which, incidentally, is the same as the one in the Desire)), it should certainly be worth waiting for it.
Sum up of differences between Wildfire and S for those that are still confused:
* Wildfire S is slightly smaller than the Wildfire, because, it does not have the optical trackpad.
* The resolution of the S if greater than the Wildfire. (480x320 vs 320x240)
* The CPU of the S is newer and faster (Qualcomm MSM 7227 at 600 MHz vs MSM 7225 at 528 MHz)
* The S has a GPU Chipset. (Qualcomm Adreno 200, Wildfire doesnt have one)
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check out this gsmarena link of the original wildfire.
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_wildfire-3337.php
it says that the original wildfire has adreno 200 GPU. it also says that the original wildfire has gorilla glass display.
i was checking the gsmarena website from past 2 years. regarding wildfire i was checking the specifications regularly. i can say confidentially that those 2 features adreno gpu and gorilla glass display were added later to the specifications in that website. can u explain the reason
and if u see this link below, u will be really shocked to see HTC GOOGLE NEXUS ONE getting a multi touch input method via firmware upgrade.
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_google_nexus_one-3069.php
can someone explain those things
bharatgaddameedi said:
check out this gsmarena link of the original wildfire.
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_wildfire-3337.php
it says that the original wildfire has adreno 200 GPU. it also says that the original wildfire has gorilla glass display.
i was checking the gsmarena website from past 2 years. regarding wildfire i was checking the specifications regularly. i can say confidentially that those 2 features adreno gpu and gorilla glass display were added later to the specifications in that website. can u explain the reason
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It's wrong. That is the spec of the Wildfire S. If you check the Wildfire S at GSMArena, there is no mention of a GPU there. So, I believe they have mixed it up. Also, if HTC had added these 2 MAJOR features to the Wildfire at the end of its life, surely there would have been SOME official announcement from them.
If the Wildfire had an Adreno 200, it would be compatible with all 3D Games, and, even Non 3D Games like Angry Birds would run flawlessly on the Stock ROM, which obviously doesn't happen. Even Quadrant, a CPU and GPU Benchmark, fails on the Wildfire, which wouldn't happen if the Wildfire had a GPU.
Oh, and even the Xperia X10 received Multi Touch via a Firmware Update. The digitizer had the capabilities, but, somehow, these companies chose not to implement them. (In case of the X10, it was because of lack of support on Donut)
Hi guys!!!
Im older user from HTC mobile, now I buy a new phone more chip, and won a new problems!
Srs., I've looking for features about my mobile (it is Motorola SPICE XT300), and this model only sell in Brazil / Canada / Argentina / Australia (i guess).
Looking in the website (gsmarena) I found the features about my phone, and its is the same about the Wildfire. look:
Android OS, v2.1 (Eclair)
CPU 528 MHz ARM 11 processor, Adreno 200 GPU, Qualcomm MSM7225 chipset
So i heard about this model dont have a drivers for this chipset, cause i dont know, but motorola dont make this drivers. So i hear some people try porting other driver from this chipset in this model but its very very dificult found news about this. I have some helps from neopeek and other forums, here too, about porting this drivers.
So, this driver i guess stay in /system/lib/****.so - my question is, somebody knows how install the 3D driver for this chipset? If i download a CUSTOM ROM here, try to copy/paste in the same location those files could work? Please guys help me, I dont wanna lose my phone but dont wanna use without graphics (by the way its f**king bad do anything, its slow any apps who needs).
So any news about this? anything? some developer could help me? any one?
Thx guys, c ya ...
gsmarena has the specs of the wildfire wrong, it doesn't have a gpu
Pdadb should be better. If you have the msm 7225 then there is no gpu. The best way to check is run nenamark. If it gets 1fps then there is no gpu. If it gets 30-60 fps then there is a gpu
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Oh and this should not be in the android dev fourm
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Pdadb should be better. If you have the msm 7225 then there is no gpu. The best way to check is run nenamark. If it gets 1fps then there is no gpu. If it gets 30-60 fps then there is a gpu
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i dont understand. some wildfire has gpu, some not? i remember then i tryed to run ps1 games in ps1 emulator, it showed me about 30 fps, but was running like 1fps, couldnt even play.
vilks said:
i dont understand. some wildfire has gpu, some not? i remember then i tryed to run ps1 games in ps1 emulator, it showed me about 30 fps, but was running like 1fps, couldnt even play.
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No. Qualcomm MSM7225 does not support / have a GPU.
this mob is ****, so laggy. im very disapointed that i bought it :}
vilks said:
this mob is ****, so laggy. im very disapointed that i bought it :}
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this was well known from the start. next time read the information that is available EVERYWHERE before buying it!
Nevertheless, the Wildfire is still a great phone, I'm loving it! Never regret it for a minute.
ramdroid77 said:
this was well known from the start. next time read the information that is available EVERYWHERE before buying it!
Nevertheless, the Wildfire is still a great phone, I'm loving it! Never regret it for a minute.
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+1 for that
It's a great phone athough it doesnt have GPU. And i dont know what people expect for such a low price...lol I think there is no better phone for that money.
The ZTE Blade is a better option now however before that was released the Wildfire was very good value.
ben1066 said:
The ZTE Blade is a better option now however before that was released the Wildfire was very good value.
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Seconded. At today's price point, there are much better phones than the Wildfire out there. But, ~6 months back, really, Wildfire was the only option if you wanted a budget Android, which is why, I am a bit disillusioned, but will continue to faithfully stick with my Wildfire.
I agree that now there are better phones in that price range. But look at the time when wildfire is released, almost a year ago and still it can compete. You must agree that even few months is relatively big period not to mention a whole year.
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Good value? Yeah, maybe the first days of release, but it didn't take long for alot more valuable phones came along. All HTC phones is overpriced, and now with locked bootloaders, useless. Only reason I got it was becouse, at the time, it was the cheapest with a LED flashlight. If I only waited for the Defy instead, same price-range, but oh so much better phone on ALL fronts.
Ok guys! but the question its not about the wildfire, its is about this Motorola Spice..
So ok, i learn the Wildfire dont have gpu ok ...
So somebody have the nenamark.apk to install ? I just found the .zip file and I dont know how to install this on mobile.
I gonna make the test with this bench, cause if i got more then 1fps i have a gpu .. if not, i dont have and i guess this thread is closed.
Any one know something about this specific model? C ya.
Hey guys! I want to buy Xperia S. I like specs, but I have few questions about hardware.
Its dual core processor, is it powerful enough? Is Xperia S UI smooth on latest Sony's firmware and latest Cyanogenmod? Is complete operating system smooth on both? Do you have any issues?
Its GPU - Adreno 225, is it powerful enough? Are you able to run latest games smoothly, without hiccups?
Is phone big? Am I able to use it like daily phone in my school and so?
Are you able to play 1080p 9GB MKV files smoothly?
Please do not answer like fanboys, tell me the truth.
Option58 said:
Hey guys! I want to buy Xperia S. I like specs, but I have few questions about hardware.
Its dual core processor, is it powerful enough? Is Xperia S UI smooth on latest Sony's firmware and latest Cyanogenmod? Is complete operating system smooth on both? Do you have any issues?
Its GPU - Adreno 225, is it powerful enough? Are you able to run latest games smoothly, without hiccups?
Is phone big? Am I able to use it like daily phone in my school and so?
Are you able to play 1080p 9GB MKV files smoothly?
Please do not answer like fanboys, tell me the truth.
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IMO my stock Xperia S is not especially smooth. It lags scrolling on the home screen, the camera 'quick-launch' takes forever, apps like messaging and contacts take a frustrating number of seconds to open. I tried out an Xperia T in store the other day and it was just generally smoother - Galaxy S3 and HTC One X seem in a different world. I'm sure the S is great on CM9 and CM10 but I've got a locked bootloader so can't install those. If you want the smoothest stock phone, look at the Nexus 4 or Galaxy S3 at the moment.
It's not terrible, and it'll do the job just fine, but if you want buttery smooth I'd recommend looking elsewhere.
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IMO my stock Xperia S is not especially smooth. It lags scrolling on the home screen, the camera 'quick-launch' takes forever, apps like messaging and contacts take a frustrating number of seconds to open. I tried out an Xperia T in store the other day and it was just generally smoother - Galaxy S3 and HTC One X seem in a different world. I'm sure the S is great on CM9 and CM10 but I've got a locked bootloader so can't install those. If you want the smoothest stock phone, look at the Nexus 4 or Galaxy S3 at the moment.
It's not terrible, and it'll do the job just fine, but if you want buttery smooth I'd recommend looking elsewhere.
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Yeah, well I have Xperia Miro now (official ICS, 800 Mhz single core), it lags but does the job. And when I tried HTC phone in store (ICS, 600 Mhz) it was like very smooth, really slow processor but smoother than mine. So I am not satisfied with Sony's software at all.
But I tried Xperia P in store and it seemed smooth. Also do you have touchscreen issues like I have on Miro?
But considering Miro is low end, I thought Xperia S is way smoother.
Anybody else, cyanogenmod?
all lags its because a lot of blotware is preinstalled on phone...
i have stock .55 rom with RooT (locked BL), via TB deleted unused system apps and LOW of blotware ( TB backup have 220MB) and phone runs really smoth... + another launcher (im using apex), and its best of...
Well yes. But can somebody answer me other questions please?
About playing 1080p MKV movies : Yes, but you will face with a big problem that any file which has over 4Gb can not be transfered to the phone.
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Go for ACRO S. It's little better than Xperia S in-case of battery back up. Rest is same. And some MKV files of 1080p may face trouble while syncing between sound and video.
Option58 said:
Hey guys! I want to buy Xperia S. I like specs, but I have few questions about hardware.
Its dual core processor, is it powerful enough? Is Xperia S UI smooth on latest Sony's firmware and latest Cyanogenmod? Is complete operating system smooth on both? Do you have any issues?
Its GPU - Adreno 225, is it powerful enough? Are you able to run latest games smoothly, without hiccups?
Is phone big? Am I able to use it like daily phone in my school and so?
Are you able to play 1080p 9GB MKV files smoothly?
Please do not answer like fanboys, tell me the truth.
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latest cyanogenmod (cm10): very smooth. latest sony's fw: havent tried. my current rom (miui based on stock (kinda old version) sony's fw: smooth, with a little tweak (it's miui, so, appearance matters most ). havent got any issues on both rom. there are something that dont work in cm10, but it's ignorable
the gpu is adreno - 220, not 225. but the difference (afaik) only bit mhz, and support with dx9.3, which has nothing to do with android, so the performance wont be to far from xperia t. it can play games smoothly. what is the latest games anyway? my latest "big" games are wild blood and nfs: mw. dont have any hiccups in those two.
is phone big?: it's 4.3 inch. how big is your hand. the phone is fit nicely in my hand while i think htc one x (4.7) and gs3 (4.8) doesnt fit well, but it's just matter of preference and once you got to use to your phone (any phone) it'll feel nicely fit in your hand.
Am I able to use it like daily phone in my school and so?: well of course.. except you're in elementary school
Are you able to play 1080p 9GB MKV files smoothly?: havent tried 9 gB mkv. but i have tried with 5 gB mkv 1080p, i use ufd with otg, slap the hdmi cable to my hdtv, and playing it smoothly with mxplayer.
Please do not answer like fanboys, tell me the truth: i think im not.. and it's like my third sony device since playstation 1 and sooo old radio...
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latest cyanogenmod (cm10): very smooth. latest sony's fw: havent tried. my current rom (miui based on stock (kinda old version) sony's fw: smooth, with a little tweak (it's miui, so, appearance matters most ). havent got any issues on both rom. there are something that dont work in cm10, but it's ignorable
the gpu is adreno - 220, not 225. but the difference (afaik) only bit mhz, and support with dx9.3, which has nothing to do with android, so the performance wont be to far from xperia t. it can play games smoothly. what is the latest games anyway? my latest "big" games are wild blood and nfs: mw. dont have any hiccups in those two.
is phone big?: it's 4.3 inch. how big is your hand. the phone is fit nicely in my hand while i think htc one x (4.7) and gs3 (4.8) doesnt fit well, but it's just matter of preference and once you got to use to your phone (any phone) it'll feel nicely fit in your hand.
Am I able to use it like daily phone in my school and so?: well of course.. except you're in elementary school
Are you able to play 1080p 9GB MKV files smoothly?: havent tried 9 gB mkv. but i have tried with 5 gB mkv 1080p, i use ufd with otg, slap the hdmi cable to my hdtv, and playing it smoothly with mxplayer.
Please do not answer like fanboys, tell me the truth: i think im not.. and it's like my third sony device since playstation 1 and sooo old radio...
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Thats the answer I was looking for...Thanks
Actually, I go to high school
I think I will go for Xperia T because of better camera, GPU...And similar price ;D
One last question because T and S have same CPU - No CPU related bugs? Will I be able to run latest unofficial android updates smoothly for a very long time?
Do I really need Quad core for anything?
Thanks guys
I don't think anyone really needs quadcore realistically
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The hardware is definitely powerful enough. In my daily usage it has never underperformed. Don't worry too much about benchmarks as they're really just a number. CM10 runs very, very smoothly. Games too.
The size of the phone is subjective! How big are your hands? It's quite bit bigger than an iPhone but slips easily into my pockets and the large screen makes it very easy to use. I wouldn't want it to be any bigger though. Try and get hold of one in a shop and see for yourself.
I can't comment on your video situation, but as others have said there are problems with files over 4GB.
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The hardware is definitely powerful enough. In my daily usage it has never underperformed. Don't worry too much about benchmarks as they're really just a number. CM10 runs very, very smoothly. Games too.
The size of the phone is subjective! How big are your hands? It's quite bit bigger than an iPhone but slips easily into my pockets and the large screen makes it very easy to use. I wouldn't want it to be any bigger though. Try and get hold of one in a shop and see for yourself.
I can't comment on your video situation, but as others have said there are problems with files over 4GB.
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Thanks! I can not decide between Xperia T and Xperia S :/ T seems like an slightly updated S xD Help me decide
I know that! That is due to FAT32 file system, it has to be NTFS to transfer larger than 4 GB. Are you able to format to NTFS? I don't want to watch 9GB MKV, I just want my phone be capable of doing it. Can you watch 3-4GB MKV smoothly?
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Thanks! I can not decide between Xperia T and Xperia S :/ T seems like an slightly updated S xD Help me decide
I know that! That is due to FAT32 file system, it has to be NTFS to transfer larger than 4 GB. Are you able to format to NTFS? I don't want to watch 9GB MKV, I just want my phone be capable of doing it. Can you watch 3-4GB MKV smoothly?
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Well, if u have the money and want better performance, go for T.and where do u live? Here in Indonesia T is more expensive, though the brand new xperia s is hard to find.
But if u want sexier phone, go for S..
Yes, as I stated I can even watch more than 4 gB 1080p. The codec (sound codec) matters though. If it's compatible with your video player,it'll play nicely, if not, it'll get out of sync. And if you root your phone, you can read ntfs (via flashdisk or even external harddisk), there is app for that, I use paragon ntfs/hs, and got no problem in any rom.
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m1st3r1 said:
Well, if u have the money and want better performance, go for T.and where do u live? Here in Indonesia T is more expensive, though the brand new xperia s is hard to find.
But if u want sexier phone, go for S..
Yes, as I stated I can even watch more than 4 gB 1080p. The codec (sound codec) matters though. If it's compatible with your video player,it'll play nicely, if not, it'll get out of sync. And if you root your phone, you can read ntfs (via flashdisk or even external harddisk), there is app for that, I use paragon ntfs/hs, and got no problem in any rom.
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What?? Are you saying that you can not play 1080p videos with Software decoding. I believe most of my files will be unsupported with hardware decoding. I wanted to use software decoding and I don't want to convert files before I put them on phone.
Can somebody put some ts (example) file on BSPlayer and put on Software decoding?
Option58 said:
What?? Are you saying that you can not play 1080p videos with Software decoding. I believe most of my files will be unsupported with hardware decoding. I wanted to use software decoding and I don't want to convert files before I put them on phone.
Can somebody put some ts (example) file on BSPlayer and put on Software decoding?
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Mx player plays all of the 1080p videos. Never had any message saying file not supported.
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