Hi all,
So I'm on O2 UK with a branded (and I assume locked) Desire.
HBOOT: 0.80
Firmware version: 2.1-update1
Rom version: 1.20.207.3
Bottom line is, I want to root before O2 push out their 2.2 update which will inevitably increase my HBOOT version. I'm a actually a software developer by trade, but I'm scared and want to take this whole rooting process slowly.
I've already created a goldcard but I've also set up my PC ready for the Unrevoked method, so I'll probably end up using that. So my main question is:
- Once I've rooted with unrevoked, do I HAVE to install a custom ROM that very minute or can I simply reboot my phone and use the stock ROM until I feel I'm ready to reflash?
Thank you! (my first post, be gentle please!)
-L
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Good evening lodger. I was in the same place s you, o2, new desire and first time boot.
I used the unrevoked method, it took 5 mins and have not needed a gold card.
I have flashed another ROM straight away however my phone re booted in to the original Rom and I could continue to use it with the original o2 Rom but just with root access.
Hope this is of some help.
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Thank you for the quick replies!
So please correct me if my understanding is wrong, I run the unrevoked process and I get a new recovery rom that lets me perform nandroid backups and flash custom roms but nothing more (yet)?
So if I were to just take a nandroid backup at this point and boot the phone normally, I would see no difference until I actually flashed a custom rom with root access?
I'm actually unsure as to whether the phone is actually locked as I've been with O2 for a looooong time and never had a locked phone from them and unfortunately I don't have another sim card to try in it. The only branding is the O2 boot screen, nothing else. So if anyone could confirm the thing about needing an unlock code that would be great.
Sorry for all of the questions, I'd just like to understand the process a little better before applying it to my pride and joy
-L
L0dger said:
Thank you for the quick replies!
So please correct me if my understanding is wrong, I run the unrevoked process and I get a new recovery rom that lets me perform nandroid backups and flash custom roms but nothing more (yet)?
So if I were to just take a nandroid backup at this point and boot the phone normally, I would see no difference until I actually flashed a custom rom with root access?
I'm actually unsure as to whether the phone is actually locked as I've been with O2 for a looooong time and never had a locked phone from them and unfortunately I don't have another sim card to try in it. The only branding is the O2 boot screen, nothing else. So if anyone could confirm the thing about needing an unlock code that would be great.
Sorry for all of the questions, I'd just like to understand the process a little better before applying it to my pride and joy
-L
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As of unrevoked version 3.0 it will root your desire and install a custom recovery.
So you'll have a stock Rom that's rooted, then you can nandroid backup and install a custom Rom when ever you want.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
I can confirm the first reply you got was wrong. Unrevoked is the easiest and best method to use. It WILL root your phone as well as install a custom recovery. You can then continue to use the stock rom with the benefits of root.
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You won't require an unlock code for an o2 branded phone.
O2 phones are normally locked, but iirc you can use Orange sim cards in there too.
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The only people who need an unlock code are Orange users.
As for unrEVOked, it will give you root. The handset will be perfectly usable as soon as unrEVOked is finished. You can then choose to stay as you are or play with all the roms in the dev forum.
Personally I'd jump straight into the dev section and download like a geek on speed
Thank you everyone. You've helped clarify thing no-end and given me the confidence to go ahead and join you all in root land Ok, one last round of questions:
So once I'm rooted, I can jump straight onto the market and download titanium backup and get all my stuff backed up, then I'm pretty much good to go right? (I'll feel a LOT happier once I have a backup!)
Any recommendations as to which rom I should go with first? There are a LOT out there and as a newbie to all of this, sifting through them is a tad daunting.
What's the deal with radio updates? Is there anything I should be aware of when applying them? Should they be applied first, before the OS rom or the other way around?
Having already created a goldcard, is it worth hanging onto it? I hear they do come in handy.
Again, sorry for all the questions but I figure it's best to ask them now rather than get stuck further down the line.
Thanks again
-L
Update: I'm rooted! nandroid backup is running now! Phew!
Thank you again everyone!
-L
It depends what your looking for in a rom. If you want froyo with sense you could try ones by pays, or the leedroid one. If you want plain android, I'd go for defrost by richard trip, or opendesire by adamg.
You will need the latest radio for the new froyo roms for stability and to ensure no echo during calls. The radio is the baseband that you see listed in about phone. It will also increase your wifi and mobile network strength.
When flashing the radio your phone will reboot twice. It is extremely important that you do not interrupt the flashing process and if it looks like it's frozen or whatever, just leave it, and be patient. The radio flash is perfectly safe, but if you do interrupt it you will have an unrecoverable brick!
Titanium will work as soon as you have root, I'd get the paid version if you have a lot of apps, as the free version requires you to confirm each app install one by one, paid version is fully automatic.
Finally, if you want to put your apps to sd card, then the froyo one is rubbish! Most if not all the custom roms use oldschool a2sd which is far better but requires an ext3 partition to be made on your card. To make the ext3 partition use either the custom recovery you have from unrEVOked or download rom manager from the market. The process of creating the partition will ddelete your sd card though so take a backup if needed.
Hope this helps you a bit, and good luck. Once you have tried a few roms you will love it
socktug said:
The only people who need an unlock code are Orange users.
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This is wrong, Orange users must use a compatable radio meaning there's no need to unlock.
As for you, if your phone is locked then you will need to flash a compatable radio like orange users. I'm not sure which radio versions o2 uses so it may be worth googling or checking which radio your running. In future when flashing a custom firmware use one that doesn't have a radio file bundled with it.
kirbz said:
This is wrong, Orange users must use a compatable radio meaning there's no need to unlock.
As for you, if your phone is locked then you will need to flash a compatable radio like orange users. I'm not sure which radio versions o2 uses so it may be worth googling or checking which radio your running. In future when flashing a custom firmware use one that doesn't have a radio file bundled with it.
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Unless something has changed you are incorrect. Any radio updated away from the stock one locked orange handsets. No other networks are affected.
All froyo roms require the latest radio. This is not optional.
Something has changed because I have a locked orange desire, with the latest radio running the latest open desire firmware and have not had a sim lock message.
I wouldn't of said what I did if I wasn't sure
Best custom rom is neophyte 1.6 if you want sense froyo
Well I guess the only way to find out will be to pop a different sim in and see what happens. I haven't yet seen anyone with an O2 branded phone with problems flashing to froyo on my forum travels, but I guess its worth finding out for sure. I'm prepared to pay for an unlock code if need be.
So would I be better off using clockworkmod to flash to 2.2 or Rom manager? I assume I have the choice now?
I've taken a titanium backup so now all I have to do is put the radio and os roms on the root of my SD card, flash, *pray* then restore my apps after it reboots?
Thank you again to all. I wouldn't have done any of this if it wasn't for you guys taking the time to help me understand this whole process. I prefer to know more than just "Follow these steps and this happens".
-L
Well I finally grew a pair and flashed neophyte 1.6 and i'm proper impressed! Thank you to everyone again for your help and advice.
For the record, I didn't need an unlock code. I just flashed the latest radio and rom straight after each other in clockwork and rebooted. That first boot is a loooong scary one but it was all good in the end
Thanks everyone!
-L
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Good stuff!! See it wasn't that bad was it?
Well,you remind me of myself when I tried to root my Hero...The whole process had scared the **** out of me!Well,until VillainRom booted that is!
I haven't rooted my Desire yet as I was stupid enough to install the 2.2 OTA,but will do something soon enough...UnrEVOked can't do anything with the new HBOOT,can it?
sbdags said:
Good stuff!! See it wasn't that bad was it?
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It was by far the scariest thing I've done this year!
Only thing I seem to be having a problem with is Juice Defender + Ultimate Juice (if anyone uses it?). When Juice Defender disables mobile data depending e.g. when the screen is locked, it keeps coming back on by itself which just adds to the battery drain. I've scoured setting after setting in case there's something forcing mobile data back on after JD disables it but found nothing. This used to work perfectly before I switched roms and it's kinda frustrating.
I'll probably have to try a couple of roms until I find one that works well with all my apps.
No, UnrEVOked doesn't work with a HBOOT > 0.80. From what I've read, there is a way to downgrade your HBOOT to 0.80 but with very mixed success rates.
Hi guys/gals,
I'm going to root my Desire this weekend. I've had it for a couple of months and I want to try out different roms. But I keep having the same questions go through my head when I read the rooting guides and the flashing guides posted. I just really need to clarify a few things before I start to mess with the phone.
First, my desire was bought through VodaFone, so from what I can make out it's a Branded/Unlocked phone, correct? (meaning that the phone has a specific VF rom on it but it take sim cards from other carriers. I have not tested with another sim as of yet but form the VF forums it sounds like it's true)
So when I root the phone do I need a gold card or not?
Where can I get the generic 2.2 Desire rom from? (I'll get bashed for saying this but I like the sense UI)
OK whats all this talk about radio? is it just the FM radio (that I never use)?
I have been looking at using the modaco Custom rom, any good? I like the online kitchen thing...
Also I noticed that with CM6 there is Desire support (finally), can I still get CM6 with the sense UI? I just want to keep the phone how it is for now, once I get used to flashing it, then I'll try a more stock android ROM, but I have grown to like the Sense UI a lot recently.
Is there any thing else I need to know?
Oh, wavesecure.. Yay or Nay?
Thanks in advance.
First thing, go to Settings>About phone>Software information and make a not of the software version on the unit. If you're on a Vodafone handset it'll show x.xx.161.x, if you're lucky enough to be on a generic handset it'll show x.xx.405.x
If you're on a 161 handset you'll need to make a gold card to allow the phone to pass CID checks to flash a generic HTC ROM. If you wanna go custom then you'll need to root the phone following the instructions dotted around random forums
Hi,
I had the same. Unbranded phone from VF UK, the updated it with the branding... I rooted it and flashed Neo's custom ROM from this site and not looked back!
Here are the steps I took, but please do your own research...
1. Use unrevoked to root.
2. Get Titanium backed to backup your apps.
3. Get a ROM and Radios you want to Flash, copy it to your device. I used Neo's 1.7.1.
4. Boot into the recovery menu.
5. Do a Nandroid backup.
6. Wipe the various caches...
7. Flash the device.
8. Flash the Radios.
Was simple. Didn't need a gold card.
Search for a Vodafone thread in the Q&A is a week old. I think its call Vodafone update not Froyo. I've posted in there too. On page 2 or 3 someone has posted instructions which I carefully followed to the letter...
Good luck!
Kiz
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As the Radio 32.54.00.32U... is causing many trouble, like dropped calls, no wifi etc. with my RCMixHD 3.0 ROM, i am trying to downgrade the radio to 32.49.00.32U, which seems to cause less trouble. But everytime I start the process I end up having the same Rom, probably due to a downgrade protection.
What can I do to get rid of 32.54??
Thank you very much!
Hi,
I was having the same problems. I was given this advice:
1) Full wipe
2) Re-install rom
3) Downgrade Radio to Rom's recommended.
Worked for me I'm using .44 (can't remember all of the numbers)
Thanks for your answer
I would really like to downgrade the radio, but I don't know how, as every time I do it (using Android Flasher on my s-off desire) and check the version after the restart in settings/software, I see that it is still 32.54....
1. You don't need to wipe when flashing a radio
2. Get the radio you wish to use here and flash it like you would a new ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=687464
This time I tried to do it in Amon RA Recovery, as it didn't work with clockwork.. and it worked...
Thanks for your help!
Right please forgive my noobishness (is this even a word?) but Im really worried about flashing my phone for the first time.
I have partitioned my card, titanium backed up and created a nandroid back up now all thats left is flashing.
Im planning to flash this rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=768703
What I am worried about is bricking it without lack of knowledge of radio files and how to properly do it. Something about GSM and CDMA?
Plus I saw in the thread this: "Use either Amon RA or clockworkmod Recovery < also available via rom manager from the market"
Why do I need to use them?
Help please preferably with a step-to-step guide?
Thanks in advance.
Read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696189
Do I need to switch S-off?
Do I need to flash the radio files and what is the difference if I do or not?
Plus should I use ROM Manager to install the new ROM?
Wait just noticed my current baseband version is one you can download from the Leedroid site, so does that mean I dont have to flash a radio file?
you never MUST flash radios, it is only a possibility
my advice, since you are obviously new to this, dont change radio, i used the radio that came with the phone since december and it worked OK.
usually you should consider upgrading your radio if it doesnt work well e.g. bad reception, data or wifi problems etc.
when you are more confident with flashing, go S-OFF (which is super easy, seriously) and learn to use FASTBOOT which is the safest method of flashing radios or recoveries
Hi guys, i'm malaysian and i had bought my DHD for 1 month~
last week i had flash to CM7.0.3, after tat i feel my radio is not match wif CM7.0.3 and the battery drain is very horible~
so i flash Radio_12.35d.60.140f_26.06.03.24_M2 wif AruWizard~ because of i haven make ENG-OFF before~(just Radio-OFF)
but problem is here, after i flash it, i cannot open my phone, just hang on the HTC logo screen for long time~
after tat, i try to restore my rom to official rom 2.2 successful~
It is a scary exp for me~~XD
but now! i would like to flash CM7.0.3 again, and i done ENG-OFF,
so i should flash ROM 1st or Radio 1st?
and what Radio is the best in Malaysia?
ANY MALAYSIAN CAN GIVE ME SOME SUGGESTION?
XD
AFAIK you can flash after you install CM7 but I'm new to custom roms so I'd double check.
I installed my radio first when I went to CM7 but I don't think it matters.
hihhi~~ u also malaysian? XD
what is ur Radio now?
i think theres no difference between flashing radio before or after a custom rom.
you should use the radio-verision of 4th January 2011. it gives me the best battery drain anyway
Hi crossrt
I've previously discussed this issues.
Here is the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056444
However, for your another question (i.e. which radio is best), is hard to define. You gotta try several radios. For me i will just follow the recommended radio by the ROM developers. And flash the necessary RIL.
Cheers. =)
erm~~ thx superstick1~~
finally i flash CM7.0.3 and radio~
and the GPS can fix in 15second~~
EXCITING! XD