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Hello
First sorry if this is in the wrong forum, I'm new to smartphones and Android and have a bit of a dilema!
I have an Xperia X10i and am supposed to be exchanging it for a HTC Desire next week, for reasons I will go into, but my big question first is am I making the right choice.
I got out my X10 yesterday after another delay with getting the HTC and after finding some UI changes and other apps on these awesome forums, I am starting to like the X10 more.
Sure the battery lasts about 9 hours but I'm looking into fixes, other things I didn't enjoy, like the UI I have changed with the awesome ADW Launcher.
Now the main reason I wanted to change the phone was, and this is going to sound really childish and stupid, but was for multitouch, well that and the newer version of android, which I think the X10 will get eventually, however for some reason I feel I need multitouch?
When getting a smartphone I looked forward to playing all my old Snes Roms etc on the way to work on the train, which is nigh on impossible to do properly without multitouch.
I installed the Wiimotion? app to use a Wii mote on my X10 which is awesome but won't help when I'm on the train.
Now I know that's a bit of a frivilous reason but I dunno, seeing all my work colleague pinch and zoom and playing Monkey Island and Conta got me jealous.
I haven't used a Desire but had a quick go of a mates Legend and wasn't blown away or anything. I actually think I prefer the look/style of my X10, but I still like the Desire, I know the camera's better on the X10 but that's pretty much it isn't it?
So there is my question really, should I change my X10 for a Desire, mainly for the updated Android and Multitouch!
I've posted this in X10 and Desire forums, again sorry if thats a no-no.
I bought my desire a couple of weeks ago now, and when deciding what to buy i was posed with the same question, x10 or desire, at first i was drawn to the x10, i liked it looks and the ui looked cool to, but after comparing the stats at gsm arena it was clear the the better fone was the desire, for starters the amoled screen isnt only better than the xperias lcd but it aparantly also uses less battery, obviously the other thing was multi touch, at this level of technology multi touch should be as standard in all handsets and i think sony have shot themselves in the foot there, also the desire has more ram, and ofcourse sence witch is easly the best launcher on android, i can easly get 24 hrs plus battery out of my desire with moderate usage
Cheers dude yea I made the mistake of asuming multitouch was as standard, I've heard differing opinions on the screen apparently the X10 is better in sunlight? But the Desire has much more colours?
rakber said:
Cheers dude yea I made the mistake of asuming multitouch was as standard, I've heard differing opinions on the screen apparently the X10 is better in sunlight? But the Desire has much more colours?
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to be hones pal, my hero has a standard lcd and its no better in sunlight than my desire, the desires screen reflects the sun alot more tho so watch out for sunglare as for colours, the desire has 16 million and the xperia has 64 thousand lol you can compare full phone specs ere http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3077&idPhone2=2964
Xperia only has 64 thousand colours due to the version of Android it is running...it will be better with an upgrade to 2.1/2.2. However multi touch will never find it's way onto the x10.
I love my Desire and you can use ADW on it too. Plus i like having multi touch so i can press B to run on Pokemon... lol.
"i like having multi touch so i can press B to run on Pokemon... lol."
Exactly dude, lol, it may be a little thing for some people, but I don't know if I can really live without it!
And cheers for the link AndroHero
get the desire! its awesome!
SiL3nTKiLL said:
get the desire! its awesome!
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Agreed!!
Don't get the X10 , i haven't tested it myself but i have only heard bad things about it from people i know.
HTC Desire = Great phone ( Best phone i have ever had )
Cheers guys, yea hopefully I can get the Desire on Wed, just waiting for delivery, hopefully there not jerking me around.
if I make choice again i take Desire
compare with X10 ,Desire is much much better in all specification
I've heard nothing but bad things about SE's smartphones, not heard one good review. Their old dumphones used to be amazing though =D
I've had my X10 since 31th of March and I managed to withdraw the purchase and the first thing I did was buy the Desire. I think that the X10 is prettier but the UI isn't really that nice anymore although I'm also having troubles with the Sense atm.
But I actually think that the Desire is a better phone and I'm happy I changed.
Get a HTC desire much better phone in every aspect.. Apart from maybe the camera. The x10i will most likely never get froyo but the htc desire will (even if we have to wait a while)
Cheers
I wanted a x10 at first too, but when they announced it wouldn't have multi touch I was kinda shocked. Few days went by and more confirmations about no multitouch were coming in so that's when I dropped my (to be purchased) X10.
Now I think the X10 is ugly and fat. UI I liked before became too blue. And no information about 2.2.
Desire seems more future proof to me.
-android 2.2
-Amoled
-More Ram
- (not sure about this) More users
I don't see x10 getting any update aside from the 2.1 update which it should have from the start....
I wanted the multi touch for the games too
Just an update for those in the same predicament I was.
I (finally) got the HTC Desire on Friday and love it already,
it's feels much more fluid than the X10,
am loving the multitouch, can finally play Mario Kart and Parodious on the train!
The camera feels pretty decent, haven't used it much, but I never really do,
Everything just seems slightly easier, but I put that down to HTC being more experienced than SE with smartphones,
which is a shame because I honestly think I prefer the actual look of the X10, it's screen seemed eyecatching for some reason, and it is still a bloody good phone even with it's limitations.
The Desires only fault for me is it looks to much like an iPhone/etc, other than that great phone.
So when SE have a couple more smartphones under the belt I'll give them another look
but for now I'm happy with my Desire.
Thanks for all the help guys!
P.S. Any recommendatons for vital/usefull apps would be much appreciated. Thanks again guys.
Hi sorry about this guys but I was wondering is there any way to save space with the HTC Desire as I'm quickly filling it up with apps
Can I save apps to the SD without rooting it or is there any other workaround/tip?
Thanks and sorry guys.
Hello,
I dont now which phone to choose. I like both of them. I like Htc sense and touchwiz too. What i need from the phone ?
1. Good media player
2. Good internet browsing
3. good gps
Im thinking to buy a galaxy S, but i heard about cool thing for htc desire called OpenDesire. This thing makes desire really super phone. How do you think will something similar will be gor galaxy S ?
OpenDesire is a stock Android ROM, removing all the HTC Sense gubbins, and isn't something 'available' for the Galaxy S as it's written specifically for the Desire...
im really confused because i dont which phone to choose :/.
Definitely go Desire all the way.
I have heard people complaining the Sammy is slow in menus and GPS is super crap. Takes long to get a lock etc.
MisterMonitor said:
Hello,
I dont now which phone to choose. I like both of them. I like Htc sense and touchwiz too. What i need from the phone ?
1. Good media player
2. Good internet browsing
3. good gps
Im thinking to buy a galaxy S, but i heard about cool thing for htc desire called OpenDesire. This thing makes desire really super phone. How do you think will something similar will be gor galaxy S ?
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hello, I had both Galaxy S as well as the Desire I returned the Galaxy S after just 3 days of use as the battery life was just appalling! It was laggy, hated the UI (very slow compared to previous versions of TouchWiz) and also hated the "iPhone style" in the menu.. I hate iOS which is why I got Android! Also, the screen is very nice, but I really could not put it into my own pocket! Anyways whats the differance 0.3 inches eh?
Now that I('ve got the Desire, I just love it! Sense UI, fast, snappy, and NO lag! NEVER! Notofications bar, better than any notificatio0ns you get on any other phone, pull it down and sellect what you want! Love it! Camera is, well, equal, I dont use it that much to notice!
Music player, very good however in the Desire you dont get an equalizer! Once again, I love the phone!
It may seem that I am being biased, but thats the way I feel Just one more thing, when you type, you make mistakes, just like everyone, on the Galaxy S you have to use you fingers to get that little line to move where you want to correct, whereas on the Desired, you can use the Track Pad! Love this feature!
ohh and about the GPS.. well Galaxy S has accuracy of 5-30 meters (didn't get to test myself, thats what I've read), and on mine Dersire, 1-3 Meters! now you know which to pick!
hope this helps! good Luck!
Thanks for your post. Really helpfull.
But samsung galaxy S is getting 2.2froyo with a lot of fixes and also GPS fix. So i think they will fix lag . Also there's a lagfix for samsung.
Hi, why don't you go to a store, check them both, and buy the one which steals your heart
that's what I do if I need to chose between several phones
You now you can try each of them. But you cant try GPs and other stuff. Its better to ask in forum, because people owns that phones and can say much more prons/cons than you find by trying them
I own both phones. In fact I had a Desire and got rid of it for an iPhone but recently upgraded my contract and got a Galaxy S.
It's a great phone with some nice features such as 720p mkv video playback, streaming is nice too and the Super AMOLED screen is MUCH nicer than the SLCD in the Desire now. Movies look gorgeous on this thing.
However I chose to use the Desire again because it's got a few extras which I missed such as flash, LED notifications, the amount of custom roms available currently including Cyanogenmod 6 (currently use) and also the lag on the Galaxy S was driving me nuts in the end! Even with custom roms and lag fixes applied it would still lag sometimes, especially when trying to answer phone calls. The battery in the Galaxy did seem to a last a bit longer than the desire but I'm sure that can be sorted by watching what apps I use / finding the perfect rom.
At the end of the day they are both great phones and I'm sure you would love whichever one you had. My Dad borrowed my phone today and was watching mks in his dinner hour at work and was so impressed!
Its so hard to make a decision. Desire with OPenDesire ROM is super phone. So fast and battery lives longer and much more. I very like Galaxy S, but he have a buggy OS
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Its so hard to make a decision. Desire with OPenDesire ROM is super phone. So fast and battery lives longer and much more. I very like Galaxy S, but he have a buggy OS
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I had the problem after returning the Galaxy S, I had 2 choices, SE X10 or the Desire, was not disapointed
so the best choice now from androids is HTC Desire ?
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so the best choice now from androids is HTC Desire ?
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If you are asking it on Desire forum, what else would you expect? I personally have desire and I'm very satisfied with it. Earlier I had Galaxy Spica which was ok also over the earlier non-android phone.
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so the best choice now from androids is HTC Desire ?
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Given the Desire is nearly 6 months old now, I'd be inclined to wait a month or two if I were you as new models should launch shortly.
Regards,
Dave
But i heard that samsung have a buggy OS. And have no costum ROMs and etc. There's a lot of good roms for Desire, including the OpenDesire which makes your phone super
Personally I would prefer the Desire over Galaxy S.
I've had a little look at the Galaxy S and I think the camera app is a bit superior over the HTCs built in stuff - and when it gets the FroYo update it will probably be even more so.
But everything else seems nicer, smoother in the Desire.
Also I don't like the iPhone-esque of the Galaxy S - didn't like the iPhone - felt it was restrictive and thus went to Android in the first place... it was either that or the win Phone 7 - and that seems more orientated towards Xbox...
i were almost buying Galaxy S, but then i heard about super thing called OpenDesire. And heard that samsung OS is buggy, laggy. And no costum ROMs
HTC Desire HD/Ace is out soon apparently and looks nice, as is the Desire Z (but that might be US only)
EddyOS said:
HTC Desire HD/Ace is out soon apparently and looks nice, as is the Desire Z (but that might be US only)
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As I understand it, it will be released as the Desire Z in Europe, and the G2 in the US.
However, reports today suggest that the processor is underclocked to 800Mhz, which may mean it is being pitched as a lower end phone than the current Desire. Time will tell, as clock speed isn't everything!
Regards,
Dave
Not very smart to ask this in this section
Okay so I am new to the pro coming from an incredible...and well when i first got the incredible there really wasnt anything as far as rooting and roms go..but the pro has been out since november..it has root..however it doesnt seem like a lot of people are interested in porting roms and making customs ones for it..i mean is fission the only thing being worked on? no miui or cynagen?
That seems to be the case. I am actually researching how to cook Roms to see if I could do it since no one else seems to be.
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yeah im thinking about learning to do it too...its just finding time with school/work
I also came from the Incredible. The development for that device was amazing within a few months. However, for the Pro, it's really a sad state of affairs--no ROM to speak of. There is a Fission ROM RC1, but it's definitely not a daily driver and there's been nothing since that first release.
I LOVE the physical keyboard of the Pro, but I miss the fun of the Incredible. I'm sure I'll soon sell my Pro for the upcoming Incredible 2 or thunderbolt. I'll never buy a Motorola Android device again.
Yeah. It's kind of too bad. I have a Droid Pro and a Droid 2 (was given the Droid Pro), and recently switched to the Droid Pro as my everyday device. I love the keyboard and form factor, but would prefer to be able to run something closer to AOSP stock (have the most recent build of Fission on the D2).
I'm guessing that there just aren't enough Droid Pros out there for anyone to be interested in developing ROMs. Too bad, because it's a great phone, although I can see people not being interested in a "high-end" phone with an HVGA display.
Maybe the next version of MotoBlur will be better than the current one (although I've been happier with the stock software on the Droid Pro than I was with the Motoblur on the Droid 2 when it came out).
I mean for me its not so much as the UI...i actually dont mind moto blur at all and aside from missing the favorites widget for contacts and the default clock..i like it a lot better than sense...but the thing that i want is custom kernels and what not for speed/battery management and the other extra things
where are the chefs............?????????????
its pity, great phone with great hardware but dump software, we need chefs here..... where are you??????
please dont let droid pro to go down the drain, please......
we need a stable and fast AOSP ROM .......if possible......donating not a problem
please guys.....
Yeah I am really hoping for a Cynagen port of 2.3 onto this device
Really? This is where we stand on this? Nothing since February?
yah i know it sucks i want to learn to port so i can take the roms made for dx or d2 i really want cyn
Isn't the bootloader locked on this thing? That's why not really any roms?
Bootloader on the Droid X and Droid 2 are locked as well but both have some custom ROMs available..
Think it's more of an issue with the lack of numbers....not any devs have this device and not a huge number of Droid Pro users compared with the others....with the similarities with the X and Droid 2 you would think it wouldn't be too hard to port over a ROM to the Pro....
if you go check out droid forums you will see there is a guy working on CM7 for the PRO i cant wait for the first beta
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/motorola-droid-pro/154369-gonna-build-cyanogenmod-7-pro.html
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I also came from the Incredible. The development for that device was amazing within a few months. However, for the Pro, it's really a sad state of affairs--no ROM to speak of. There is a Fission ROM RC1, but it's definitely not a daily driver and there's been nothing since that first release.
I LOVE the physical keyboard of the Pro, but I miss the fun of the Incredible. I'm sure I'll soon sell my Pro for the upcoming Incredible 2 or thunderbolt. I'll never buy a Motorola Android device again.
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Well the problem is the pro was targeted at corporate America. Not the IT guys or nerds but the exec's that loved the blackberry. The result is you don't have a lot of pro owners that know what xda-developers.com is, let alone a custom rom.
Bashing motorola? For realz? Damn man I love my Droid X, I do product reviews on just about every phone on the market and I have to say my original Droid X is still my favorite and I don't pay for service, phones or anything. I have my pick... and it's the Droid X. I've been thinking about switching to the Droid X 2 which is just as outstanding, the only problem is I don't want to reward them for not going 4G with it. I don't really need a processor upgrade and I have a 32 gb micro in the Droid X 1 (which I was surprised it recognized to be honest).
Anyway, Droid X 1 with MIUI FTW
Only thing it is holding me back because it isn't popular phone so I might don't have much of support or any help for rooting, hardware issue or anything like that. I could just save $150 and go for HTC Desire, but I like 8mpx, front camera and the screen on HTC Incredible S. I like HTC Desire because it is quite popular and it has a lot of support, but Incredible S sounds and look much cooler.
Also excuse me for posting in wrong section, I couldn't find a correct section for general discussion of android phone (hardware).
EDIT: I posted this thread in both section Desire and Incredible S for unbiased opinion.
Two words. Incredible s. If you can wait get a sensation
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Incredible S defenietly has better specifications, but it indeed does not have the same customrom / supportuserbase on xda yet.
Like stated above, the Sensation will be out in 1-2months, and thats a great phone. If you cannot wait and want a new phone now, perhaps the Desire HD is a valid option also (Better than regular Desire, similar specs to Incredible, but awesome support/userbase here on XDA).
Blah id get the lg optimus 2x for that amount of cash (dual corez)
But if i had to choose incredible s (desire is booring)
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I got an Arc to wait for the Sensation with root, I am considering to sell it and get a Desire or DHD just because the Arc while it has root it doesn't have any custom rom!
I sold my 1 year used N1 for 330$ 2 weeks ago so I think selling a Desire or DHD in 2 months will be pretty the same, whereas the SE price droping fast and its lack of popularity will mean that I will sell it for even less than a Desire.
So if you can't live without custom roms more than 2 weeks...buy a good old Desire or DHD!
The Sensation will be out between the 8th and 15th June, add to that another month to find a root and the price to decrease
Well, guys, thanks for replying, but why would you ever mention Sensation? I have a budget and I couldn't shell out that much of money and what I heard, dual-core is a battery drainer plus I don't want 4.3" screen as it's too big for me. Even 4" is, that's why I was going for Desire which is 3.7" or something.
Can you put custom ROM on Incredible S?
^If you're that worried about budget and everything, you might want to look into the Nexus S, it runs better than any of these phones (except dual-core), has decent dev support, is factory-unlocked, and it's more pocket-able than 4.3" phones.
If you're absolutely tied between the Desire and the Incredible S, then go for the Incredible S because of significantly better specs, a newer version of Sense and WAY more onboard memory.
To be honest, the main reasons people here work on custom roms, is because we don't have Sense 2.0 on the Desire without an Ace rom (DHD), because of memory limitations (147MB on stock partition table, vs 1.1GB in Incredible S), to make it run faster, or to run MIUI or AOSP.
Sense is great, and with the Incredible S, your phone will run better than a Desire running sense ever would, so go with that!
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^If you're that worried about budget and everything, you might want to look into the Nexus S, it runs better than any of these phones (except dual-core), has decent dev support, is factory-unlocked, and it's more pocket-able than 4.3" phones.
If you're absolutely tied between the Desire and the Incredible S, then go for the Incredible S because of significantly better specs, a newer version of Sense and WAY more onboard memory.
To be honest, the main reasons people here work on custom roms, is because we don't have Sense 2.0 on the Desire without an Ace rom (DHD), because of memory limitations (147MB on stock partition table, vs 1.1GB in Incredible S), to make it run faster, or to run MIUI or AOSP.
Sense is great, and with the Incredible S, your phone will run better than a Desire running sense ever would, so go with that!
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I couldn't go for Google Nexus S because it doesn't have support in Moscow, Russia e.g if I have hardware failure or such, I couldn't take it to the support.
Sounds like I wouldn't need to change ROM on Incredible S but I would like to be able to root it to have full power on it. Is Android applications depended of which phone model do you have (I'm already aware it's depended of android version)?
Also, is dev support is that important? If it is, then I guess I should fall back down to HTC Desire.
Also, I'm pretty tired of this 5 minutes limit for editing/posting, when will it get removed?
If you are in desperate need of a new phone and you can afford something more expensive than Desire, I think you should get either Incredible S or Nexus S.
If you can wait and still afford the price when it comes to the market, I think Sensation would be the better option.
The good old Desire is still a good option to get. Despite of all its weaknesses due to being an old model with old specs, Desire is very cheap at this moment, especially the second handed one.
I had a Desire about a year ago, then moved to the Samsung Galaxy S.
But just today I bought a Desire for £200 brand new, I couldn't resist as it's just such a good phone!
Running AdamG's Oxygen ROM on it now, it's so awesome!
Oh well I just discovered the weather from Sense 3.0 has been ported to DHD in a 100% workingl rom, the Desire will follow shortly
I guess it boils down to price for you by the sounds of it. Also consider if you are big in to gaming and video as Incredible GPU is much better than Desire from what I can remember. Is the Incredible locked though, as in bootloader/ROM's? Also something to bear in mind.
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If you can I'd get a desire s sounds about right for you.
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Ill sell u my white htc desire good condition with 16gb class 10 card (13mb write 23mb read) and all manuals headphones usb charger. Unlocked running miui 1.4.29
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Can someone tell me which is better..the desire hd or htc incredible s?
Someone is offering to trade their incredible s for my dhd and I am tempted mainly cause of the front facing camera that the incredible s has.
I know that the dhd has a bigger screen but is this a fair trade or am I loosing if I was to go ahead with it.
Overall the Incredible S is better. The only places where the DHD seems to outshine is a larger display and 1.5 GB of ROM compared to the IS's 1.1 GB ROM.
That is what I was also thinking
Thanks for chiming in bro much appreciated.