[Q] Can't focus in low light - Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
I've been terribly fustrated by the inability of the Desire HD to focus in low light (i.e. pub/disco). Usually, my previous phones would use the led first TO FOCUS and then again to take the picture. The Desire HD doesn't do that and hence the pictures are 99% out of focus and over/under-exposed.
Do any of you know of any way to fix this? Any app? Or is it simply just that crap?
Thank you.

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exposure / autofocus flickering

Very happy with the HTC 10, certainly with audio quality when recording live music.
Anyhow: I have a problem with recording video in dim light situations: the video (whole screen) flickers now and then.
In good light situations (outside daylight) the issue seems not to be there.
The flickering is already visible in the live preview during recording (but even worse: also in the final recording)
Note that when you switch to "photo mode", the flickering is not visible in the live preview.
I think the cause can be that de Auto exposure is switching too fast, or is interfering with something.
For a very short example clip see: (here you see the flickering is also visible in the final recording)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2brDkD4Zjn8
This may look like an "artificial situation", but here also a real life situation (with nice live music )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujDZtrS0NXc
(flickering: second 1-3, second 15-18, second 38-41)
Firmware HTC 10:
1.95 / 1.95.401.3
Camera Version:
8.10.763406
Question is:
- Are any users experiencing this issue?
- Do you think this is a hardware issue? Or software?
- BTW: photo's look perfect, so I hope it is an issue that can be fixed.
- In daylight the flicker issue also seems not to be there
Tried so far:
- Deleted camera data / camera cache
- Cleaned the camera lens / autofocus lens
- Tried other camera apps (same issue), so if it's not a hardware issue, the issue is not in the camera app, but probably in the firmware.
Any ideas?
Update:
Maybe it can be related to 50 / 60 Hz interference ?
Also see: http://forum.xda-developers.com/htc-10/help/camera-flickering-video-recording-t3476842
Note: on my Mi5 I don't have this issue
BTW:
See this clip: Using 30fps video can create flickering artefacts in artificial light in PAL regions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxBB8HmJB6A
Currently the HTC 10 indeed records in 30 fps (actually 29.97), so maybe that is the cause?
If this is the case, then this issue probably only affects users in Europe ?
-> Update: see comment below: flickering is can also be reproduced without electronic lights
- Update: can also reproduce the flickering without electronic lights, so the 50/60 Hz looks like a different issue.
- The flickering seems to happpen in low light situation, with backlight (from a window by example), where +/- 50% of the frame is in low-light and the other 50% has backlight
I get serious flickering both with photo and video if there is ANY light interference in low light situations.
Example being aiming camera sideways on our couch (so 90 degrees away from TV on far wall), low light as evening, the TV is enough to send my phone in to overload, its more or less impossible to get a photo or video due exposure and who knows what changing what seems like hundreds of times a second, drives me nuts I have given up trying to take shots in such situations.
Can put in pro mode, then the colours jump all over the place from that interfering light.
edit: just to add to this, the TV of course is changing colours / light constantly so I believe that is what makes my phone have a meltdown. If say the TV light is static the camera will stay static I believe with little to no issue.
stretchnz said:
I get serious flickering both with photo and video if there is ANY light interference in low light situations.
Example being aiming camera sideways on our couch (so 90 degrees away from TV on far wall), low light as evening, the TV is enough to send my phone in to overload, its more or less impossible to get a photo or video due exposure and who knows what changing what seems like hundreds of times a second, drives me nuts I have given up trying to take shots in such situations.
Can put in pro mode, then the colours jump all over the place from that interfering light.
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Did you try if the problem is also there in other camera apps?
Try by example open camera.
In my situation the flickering is not gone, however, i did see that the "banding issue" is less in open camera, unfortunately it doesn't help against the flickering I experience.
BTW: what firmware are you on?
I have not tried another app, no
Can try that tonight though (8.21am in the morning now)
jan1000 said:
Did you try if the problem is also there in other camera apps?
Try by example open camera.
In my situation the flickering is not gone, however, i did see that the "banding issue" is less in open camera, unfortunately it doesn't help against the flickering I experience.
BTW: what firmware are you on?
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I also have made a topic with this issue. I've tried with Camera FV-5 which has the interference option to set 50/60 Hz and it makes no difference. With the TV i haven't any trouble making video/photo. No bands passing by.
The conditions are: environment with low illumination (the lower light the higher visible effect) and any source of electric light.
alex.oss said:
I also have made a topic with this issue. I've tried with Camera FV-5 which has the interference option to set 50/60 Hz and it makes no difference. With the TV i haven't any trouble making video/photo. No bands passing by.
The conditions are: environment with low illumination (the lower light the higher visible effect) and any source of electric light.
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What is your firmware version ?
Still not clear to me if this is an software issue, or that we maybe have a device with a hardware issue.
This beacuse I don't see a lot of reports about this issue. If this would affect all users, I would expect more reports.
I have the same issues, combined with some dropped frames AND a weird panning effect (have a look at the HTC 10 Camera Thread).
You can check my videos here , here and here.
But, if you put the slider for the exposure all the way down, or lock AF/AE to a bright source, the flickering disappears, no matter if you pan from a bright to a dark area or not.
jan1000 said:
What is your firmware version ?
Still not clear to me if this is an software issue, or that we maybe have a device with a hardware issue.
This beacuse I don't see a lot of reports about this issue. If this would affect all users, I would expect more reports.
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Neither to me if it's hardware or software. I have the 1.92.709.1 firmware of the 10h unlocked version.
Due to the variable conditions, i tend to think that is fixable via software update, but well, i don't know...
Hi, I've the Taiwanese version of HTC 10 and I can confirm this issue. It should be noted that D4v3 is right. If you lock AF/AE the flickering effect dissappear. Please long press over a light source until AF/AE block message appears. You'll see the problem is gone.
I guess the problem is firmware related because if it's a hardware issue why can we fix this blocking the AF/AE? I think it's related with how the firmware manages changes of lights.
[D4v3|R4v3] said:
I have the same issues, combined with some dropped frames AND a weird panning effect (have a look at the HTC 10 Camera Thread).
You can check my videos here , here and here.
But, if you put the slider for the exposure all the way down, or lock AF/AE to a bright source, the flickering disappears, no matter if you pan from a bright to a dark area or not.
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Jadraker said:
Hi, I've the Taiwanese version of HTC 10 and I can confirm this issue. It should be noted that D4v3 is right. If you lock AF/AE the flickering effect dissappear. Please long press over a light source until AF/AE block message appears. You'll see the problem is gone.
I guess the problem is firmware related because if it's a hardware issue why can we fix this blocking the AF/AE? I think it's related with how the firmware manages changes of lights.
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I agree this looks like it could be fixed with software, but the fact that so few users report this issue, makes me think it is not affecting all users.
If it would affect all users I would expect a LOT of reports, since in fact recording in dim results in very poor quality.
@ Jadraker is saw your threat about a new update: 1.96.709.5 -> Does this update fix the issue?
It could be too that not all users uses the camera to record video in such low light circumstances. For example, I noted this issue when I read your post. It's probably that without reading the post I would never realized that flickering.
About the update I'll test the phone at night and I'll publish the result accordingly.
jan1000 said:
I agree this looks like it could be fixed with software, but the fact that so few users report this issue, makes me think it is not affecting all users.
If it would affect all users I would expect a LOT of reports, since in fact recording in dim results in very poor quality.
@ Jadraker is saw your threat about a new update: 1.96.709.5 -> Does this update fix the issue?
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Unfortunately the flickering issue wasn't fixed with the update I received.
Jadraker said:
It could be too that not all users uses the camera to record video in such low light circumstances. For example, I noted this issue when I read your post. It's probably that without reading the post I would never realized that flickering.
About the update I'll test the phone at night and I'll publish the result accordingly.
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The question is if HTC is even aware of that. Don't know how to point this out to them, since it's really annoying and not just happening in low lit areas but also during daylight
It seems HTC 10 is not the only device with flickering issues while recording video. Please see: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7/help/samsung-s7-camera-flickering-t3337032
I don't know if it is the same problem but at least it's very similar, isn't it?
Jadraker said:
It seems HTC 10 is not the only device with flickering issues while recording video. Please see: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7/help/samsung-s7-camera-flickering-t3337032
I don't know if it is the same problem but at least it's very similar, isn't it?
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Jadraker said:
It seems HTC 10 is not the only device with flickering issues while recording video. Please see: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7/help/samsung-s7-camera-flickering-t3337032
I don't know if it is the same problem but at least it's very similar, isn't it?
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I could not find a lot examples on youtibe of the S7, but based on the text I would indeed think it is similar.
I also own a Xiaomi Mi5, and compared it with the HTC 10 in the exaxt same situation, the mi5 doesn't flicker at all, whilte the HTC 10 flickers.
It looks like the Mi5 is change the exposure more gradually.
I think there are 2 issues with the HTC10 camera:
1. Flickering caused by (eletronic) light in dim situation (scenario: +/-50% of surface dim +/- 50% of surface bright)
2. Issues when panning the camera
I find it still difficult to define an exact reproduction path.
But part of the problem also seems to be white / shiny surfaces, see this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PZQYZvJ8lI

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