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I noticed that my new Desire had close to 100% awake time (Settings>About phone>Battery), which has historically been an issue for other HTC devices (Sprint Hero). So I checked the Battery info (punch in *#*#4636#*#* in the phone dialer), and under “Battery history” it shows “Running” as 100%, which indicates the same awake time. If I change the top pull-down to “Partial wake usage” it shows me that the calendar is running more or less constantly.
Could this be an underlying cause of poor battery life? (not that it’s that bad in my opinion – seem to get 15-20 hrs out of one charge – But my Hero could last 2 days or more)
Would someone please bother to retrace my steps on their devices to see if they get the same results?
UPDATE APRIL 21 2010: PARTIAL SOLUTION FOUND: The problem is the calendar app. It can be solved partially by force closing the calendar in “manage applications” and then starting it up again. After doing this, the phone sleeps correctly. So something in the calendar app is preventing the phone from going to sleep – And by restarting the app it works correctly again.
Unfortunately this is only a temporary fix, since it has to be done every time the phone is powered on (rebooted) and also every once in a while without rebooting, since the calendar app for some reason resumes it bad behaviour after a day or so.
So everyone with the problem should let HTC know about it - Assuming they listen..
UPDATE APRIL 24 2010: SCREENSHOTS ADDED: I added screenshots of the issue as well as how it's supposed to look on a handset without the issue.
UPDATE APRIL 28 2010: PERMANENT SOLUTION FOUND?: Remove Flickr Sync. Go to Settings>Accounts & Sync>Flickr. Then press remove account at the bottom of the screen and reboot the phone - Please report back in the thread if successful!
UPDATE JUNE 07 2010: The issue has been resolved by OTA update to 1.21.405.2.
This is not the case with my phone. Running is at 20%.
The above command does nothing for me.
I charged my battery while the phone was on yesterday and it said it'd been fully charged. I then switched my phone off and the yellow charge light was on, indicating the battery wasn't full. I waited for it to go green and got an extra hour or so charge time, hopefully the charge will last longer now. I think it's a firmware issue with reporting the battery is fully charged when it isn't.
madmossy said:
The above command does nothing for me.
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Are you remembering to reverse the * & # at the end?
The full command is:
*#*#4636#*#*
gens6200 said:
Are you remembering to reverse the * & # at the end?
The full command is:
*#*#4636#*#*
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Its ok worked in the end, phone was just going slow for some reason.
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Its ok worked in the end, phone was just going slow for some reason.
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Was your awake time (partial wake) very high as well?
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Was your awake time (partial wake) very high as well?
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Partial Awake since last unplug for me just shows media at around 30-40% followed by Android at ~10% rest are all low <1%
I did a factory reset last night and it didn't change anything. I'm starting to think it's a hardware issue, since other users seem to have a normal ratio between awake time and up time (50% or less)
I also see that my calender is causing huge issues with my baterry life. i may try disabling calender from task killer
Think mine was a faulty battery, replaced it lastnight with a brand new one, turned phone off, charged till full and left phone on with wifi enabled. Battery was at 88% when i got up this morning.
Normally having wifi enabled over night would of used 30-40% of the battery.
Interesting find. I have the same results.
I use the calendar widget, I wonder if that's why it's so high? Do any of you use it?
Ive found on mine that turning off the live wallpaper gives me at least a day and a half of useage. FYI, since turning my phone on this morning @ 7am, ive now got 84% left and ive been on a few calls, txt's activesync for email etc and a bit of browsing over wifi etc. so not too bad as good as my HD2 ever was.
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I have found today that my awake time was the same as uptime , even though my phone was left alone for over an hour ... Something is keeping the phone from going into sleep mode ??? For a start I have removed all widgets from my home screens, and rebooted, to see what effect that has on the awake time.
EDIT: even after rebooting without widgets and leaving the phone alone for 15min, the awake time is exactly the same as uptime. using the *#*#4363#*#* menu, calendar is the first app in partial awake time and the blue bar is about 75% (dont understand completely what this means).
Anyone having more advice for me?
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Same here. Don't know what's causing it though.
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It seems calander app is also keeping mine awake.
I've pulled the widget off my home screen and have stopped it syncing so I'll check again in a day and see how its going.
As for removing the live wallpaper....no way its too nice
My calender usage is really really low (around 5%), i only really use this big month view widget. strange
Phil750123 said:
My calender usage is really really low (around 5%), i only really use this big month view widget. strange
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Thanks for replying!
Just a question: Is your 'Settings>About phone>Software version' similar to this?:
Firmware version:
2.1 –update1
Baseband version:
32.30.00.28U_4.05.00.11
Kernel version:
2.6.29.97da29ed
[email protected] #1
Build number:
1.15.405.4 CL155070 release keys
Software number:
1.15.405.4
Browser version:
Webkit 3.1
my calendar has been syncing non stop all morning, can't work out whats the matter with it.
i was using the android widget and it would sync past 10.10 am just removed widget and it's now updated to 11.58
also i use call log which i tried uninstalling and deleting calendar as it had synced the same phone calls over and over again, not sure if that was a cause or a victim of the stalled calendar sync as that was all happening around 11.17 which was after the calendar sync had already stalled.
I sent this to HTC support - Let's see what they say:
I have a brand new HTC Desire that I’m very happy with and I only have one real issue so far: Battery life is only 10-12 hours on a full charge.
Going to “Settings>About Phone>Battery” it shows me that up time and awake time are the same, which seems to indicate that the phone doesn’t suspend correctly as it’s supposed to (and as other Desires do – as well as my old HTC Hero).
In the battery info console (pressing *#*#4636#*#* in dialer) it shows me that the calendar is active 80-90% of the time (by going into “battery history” and changing top dropdown to “partial wake”). To compare android system is only around 5% or less. Some Desire owners seem to have the same issue, but others also report calendar usage to be much lower and awake time much smaller than up time.
In “Settings>Applications>Running Services” it shows “ObexService” and “ConnectivityService” listed as running under Calendar.
I’ve done two factory resets of the phone to test if it had anything to do with my particular setup or apps (synchronising mail, contacts and calendar from Google as well as work e-mail and calendar through exchange). But the problem persists after the factory reset without installing anything or syncing with exchange.
Is this a firmware issue that will be updated? Or is it a particular issue with the hardware on my handset? Can I do anything to make it suspend correctly?
From “About phone”:
Firmware version: 2.1 –update1
Baseband version: 32.30.00.28U_4.05.00.11
Kernel version: 2.6.29.97da29ed, [email protected] #1
Build number: 1.15.405.4 CL155070 release keys
Software number: 1.15.405.4
Browser version: Webkit 3.1
I bought the phone from 3 in Denmark.
Kind regards and thanks for any help,
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Guys,
We all know about the "magical 4636 menu" which provides a lot of interesting information as well as battery usage history. Now, talking about Battery, there is a submenu which is called "partial wake usage". I have googled a lot (both on XDA and beyond) and still could not find any exact explanation on what _exactly_ that thing was
Everyone is writing smth like "well, if you see some app there, that means that it doesn't let your Desire to sleep... err... "completely".. but the phone is not "fully" awake either.. err.. yeah..."
So, if someone could clarify this, I would be very grateful. What interests me exactly is:
- if I see (for example) MortPlayer app on top of the "partial wake usage" list - does that mean that the app was ACTIVELY running in background even when the display was off?
- if yes, does that mean that my device consumed just as much power as if it was awake, "minus" the energy consumed by OLED screen?
- so, "partial wake" mode itself - how is that defined? Does "partial-wake" equal "fully-actively-running-device-but-the-screen-does-not-consume-power"?
- when listening to mp3 (with the screen off) - is that "partial wake"?
Thanks in advance.
erm.. anyone?...
Maybe this help!
Hi mate,
I'm no expert on Android or anything but will share what I thought partial wake option shows from my own experience.
I was using Seven to get my hotmail push to my Desire and I was getting very poor battery life from it.
when I checked via the battery history I had to select from the top drop down list "partial wake usage" and "since last unplug" from second drop list.
and it clearly showed 70% of my battery was getting used up by seven. so I uninstalled it right away.
after that now I'm getting almost 2 days worth of battery life while on the other hand before I was running out of battery before even 18 hours.
seven was a beta software and unapproved as well, so I guess it will cause the problem.
So basically the partial wake usage menu shows you what app you or the system running even when your display is off.
now the reason I think it shows other app on the list bcoz of Android's nature of always connected to net. like Android system, maps, facebook and stuff.
which keeps updating behind if you run them once after you unplugged and got out of them by pressing home button.
Also remember by the second menu gives you option to select either "since last unplugged" or "total since boot" or "total in all time" so obviously a lot off app going to show up on the list.
and yes playing mp3 with screen shut is consider partial wake usage as my cube player shows up on list.
PARTIAL_WAKE_LOCK means that the CPU will continue running in sleep mode only the Screen and the Keyboard will powerd off
FROM ANDROID API-DOC:
*If you hold a partial wakelock, the CPU will continue to run, irrespective of any timers and even after the user presses the power button. In all other wakelocks, the CPU will run, but the user can still put the device to sleep using the power button.
wake-locks are needed for some apps who have timers or counters in backround etc. 'cause without the cpu the timer will not work
http://developer.android.com/reference/android/os/PowerManager.html
Not recommended to keep CPU running unless you really need it - kills power efficiency by stopping CPU sleep modes.
I have a notification widget on the task bar to access the Testing menu since the first week which allows all those stats and more. I found about a week back that the application WorldWideTime had 99% battery usage as partial wake since the last unplug with over 6hours devoted to it and the next highest being Android at 2s of use. I rarely used the app -> Uninstalled.
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Thank you for your replies!
I have noticed that after listening to mp3 using MortPlayer (the screen is off, device in pocket ) it appears on the partial_wake_usage list. So, this means that when I am listening to mp3 via MortPlayer, the CPU stil runs as if my Desire was fully awake.
Does anyone know how that is with the original music player?
I can't answer your specific question, but any music player running when the screen is off must be using an awake lock to keep the CPU running. Same as any browser/application which is downloading content. Without the CPU running, such tasks won't be possible. There is power saving with a partial lock, as other unused hardware is put to sleep.
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I can't answer your specific question, but any music player running when the screen is off must be using an awake lock to keep the CPU running. Same as any browser/application which is downloading content. Without the CPU running, such tasks won't be possible. There is power saving with a partial lock, as other unused hardware is put to sleep.
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Thanks, that clarifies a lot!
Partial wakelock with Palmary Weather
I am sad to report this but the awesome weather app J
(Palmary) is unfortunately taking up the largest majority of partial wakelock on my Desire Z. Looks like I need to uninstall it.
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I have a notification widget on the task bar to access the Testing menu since the first week which allows all those stats and more. I found about a week back that the application WorldWideTime ........... -> Uninstalled.
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gnocchi_ny said:
I am sad to report this but the awesome weather app J
(Palmary) is unfortunately taking up the largest majority of partial wakelock on my Desire Z. Looks like I need to uninstall it.
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I use Palmary, without the widget, as my primary weather app. I have it set to manual refresh and I have no problems at all. Unsurprisingly.
SousukeUK said:
Hi mate,
I'm no expert on Android or anything but will share what I thought partial wake option shows from my own experience.
I was using Seven to get my hotmail push to my Desire and I was getting very poor battery life from it.
when I checked via the battery history I had to select from the top drop down list "partial wake usage" and "since last unplug" from second drop list.
and it clearly showed 70% of my battery was getting used up by seven. so I uninstalled it right away.
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I just uninstalled Seven...still in beta btw. I was using it to sync Hotmail since it syncs junk mail as well. Anyway, only found out about this wake lock stuff. Went into spare parts and saw that Seven was taking about 70% also. Charging now...hopefully this will solve my battery issues...tried everything else.
I have my phone running 99.6% of the time in spare parts and it shows android system as the culprit holding a partial wakelock.
so my question is, how do i fix this? i've tried a factory reset three times, am updated to 1.21 ota and have slowly started to reintegrate apps but it always starts again and always after a different app.
i'm getting pretty frustrated anyone got any ideas?
UPDATE In my case it was network time abusing wireless location service that was causing the problem and hence the reason a factory reset didnt solve it, i switched off network time and voila!
just to clarify, no live wallpapers, and phone is in airplane mode to avoid any data usage drainig the battery.
i have got beautiful widgets homescreen small clock and pure cal widget installed at the moment but even when i uninstall them it doesnt fix it, also im running launcher pro 0.4.2 but also had the problem when i reverted to sense.
and i have read every other thread here about battery life that i could find but no-one seems to have this problemo
anyone with any advice on why my phone wont sleep?
A long shot, but go in to Mobile Settings and untick Enable always-on mobile data.
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A long shot, but go in to Mobile Settings and untick Enable always-on mobile data.
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ok cool, giving that i try now but i had been leaving it in airplane mode to try and take the vagaries of data out of the equation.
this started about a week ago and i really noticed it when i was in a 6 hour long meeting and my battery basically draines 60% even though the phone was in airplane mode
ok tried that but with my phone just factory reset, airplane mode and no apps installed other than spare parts it's showing running 94.1 % of the time and all of it is android system.
that cant be right
i have restored data, maybe i shouldnt restore data either but that just seems plain crazy
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What exact foreground and background processes/services do you have running when this is happening, any idea?
Apps like System Panel can show you them and some useful other details. That is certainly too high.
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What exact foreground and background processes/services do you have running when this is happening, any idea?
Apps like System Panel can show you them and some useful other details. That is certainly too high.
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ok right now there is
com.android.syncml.service
sense
market
messages
people
rss reader
syncml provider
sys panel
touch input
updater
and then a load of inactive cached applications
do you see anything unusual there?
ok so i downloaded system app and killed all apps except excluded and sytem apps and my running usage has gone down, now thats no suprise in and of itself but now i need to see if it stays down.
i've just checked again and the percentage is still going down, so it's either an inactive app which i didnt list ( is that even possible if its inactive) or one of the items i listed above.
has anyone got any thoughts.
What do the logs say upon going to standby? (Use aLogcat to watch/save system log).
I had same problem I tried the turning off network always on to off, didn't change anything. the thing that worked for me was turning off my flickr account!? For some reason it kept my calendar awake so keeping system from sleeping, don't ask me why as I can't figure it out, though since doing this I'm now getting up to 2 days of average use from the battery. Also I've done the usual of reducing the different accounts sync timings etc.
Have you typed *#*#4636#*#* into the phone key pad to look at what is happening? This can give valuable info on what's draining the battery.
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I had same problem I tried the turning off network always on to off, didn't change anything. the thing that worked for me was turning off my flickr account!? For some reason it kept my calendar awake so keeping system from sleeping, don't ask me why as I can't figure it out, though since doing this I'm now getting up to 2 days of average use from the battery. Also I've done the usual of reducing the different accounts sync timings etc.
Have you typed *#*#4636#*#* into the phone key pad to look at what is happening? This can give valuable info on what's draining the battery.
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I have the same problem as OP since the latest update. The *#*#4636#*#* code is not helping in this case. The partial wake lock is displayed as Android System - which doesn't tell me anything.
I read something about the Calendar issues but I am unable to stop the calendar in running processes.
How did you solve your problem?
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I have the same problem as OP since the latest update. The *#*#4636#*#* code is not helping in this case. The partial wake lock is displayed as Android System - which doesn't tell me anything.
I read something about the Calendar issues but I am unable to stop the calendar in running processes.
How did you solve your problem?
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Ok i seem to have had some luck since last night though i'm not sure of the exact reason.
i did as th3 said and downloaded system monitor and then killed all background active and inactive tasks and that seems to have solved the problem. I have no idea why that would be the case though and i am watching it carefully to see if it stays fixed.
i dont have a flickr account setup
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Djet, I installed alogcat and have found all references to wakelock, rather than post the entire log
D/PowerManagerService( 77): wakelock: PARTIAL_WAKE_LOCK 'NetworkLocation Check Location' activated (minState=0)
D/PowerManagerService( 77): wakelock: PARTIAL_WAKE_LOCK 'NetworkLocation Check Location' activated (minState=0)
D/PowerManagerService( 77): wakelock: PARTIAL_WAKE_LOCK 'keyguardWakeAndHandOff' activated (minState=0)
D/PowerManagerService( 77): wakelock: FULL_WAKE_LOCK 'keyguard'ACQUIRE_CAUSES_WAKEUP activated (minState=3)
there are also some entries in red like this one
E/vold ( 53): Unable to lookup media '/devices/platform/msm_sdcc.1/mmc_host/mmc0/mmc0:0001'
and a load of errors to do with global search etc but this is all pretty much gobbledegook to me, what am i looking for?
thanks
ok so based on that log i have switched of the use wireless networks to find my location (not gps i hardly ever use that anyway) and now the running % is dropping fast.
i will keep you posted as to whether it keeps coming down or not.
it is going to be an enormous bummer if i cant use wireless location, thats one of a smartphones greatest powers, why would this suddenly start happening now ( started about a week before the ota update) and continues even when i factory reset.
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ok so based on that log i have switched of the use wireless networks to find my location (not gps i hardly ever use that anyway) and now the running % is dropping fast.
i will keep you posted as to whether it keeps coming down or not.
it is going to be an enormous bummer if i cant use wireless location, thats one of a smartphones greatest powers, why would this suddenly start happening now ( started about a week before the ota update) and continues even when i factory reset.
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I suppose it's not the feature itself guilty but the applications using it. I had the same issue with battery running out because of Location service wake locks. It turned out one of the Locale app plugins was abusing this service. Having it uninstalled battery run became normal.
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I suppose it's not the feature itself guilty but the applications using it. I had the same issue with battery running out because of Location service wake locks. It turned out one of the Locale app plugins was abusing this service. Having it uninstalled battery run became normal.
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Yes i know what you mean, how did you go about diagnosing that? also i have done several factory resets and it still happens
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There are a many app settings that drain battery and the stock setup is nothing I am fond of. Location/locale was one of them for me, calendar, network time and widget/app syncs being the others. A non-stock app causing such problems was NetCounter.
Calendar was fixed by killing it and restarting it. It's a known bug for many.
If many widgets are running sync very often, then you can imagine battery draining fast.
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There are a many app settings that drain battery and the stock setup is nothing I am fond of. Location/locale was one of them for me, calendar, network time and widget/app syncs being the others. A non-stock app causing such problems was NetCounter.
Calendar was fixed by killing it and restarting it. It's a known bug for many.
If many widgets are running sync very often, then you can imagine battery draining fast.
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th3 you are legend, it was network time, i switched that off and all is now well in the world. cheers dude
Good find. I had the thing off anyway, but it is good to know.
Hey there,
Auto rotation in the basic apps (sms, mail, internet) is feeling slow.
well - it works - but i compared to my mate with his desire (no hd)
and he is like 1 seconds. im like at least twice the time.
using froyo 2.2 with most updates
but not all - i rooted it with visionary.
using ad.launcher.ex
juice defender + ultimate juice
startup cleaner
adv. task killer.
i know those are some, but im a bit sure this time didnt change
since i tried sms when i had my phone new ...
anyone having the same problems ?
what shall i do ?
strang thing: the game "U CONNECT" which can also rotate the screen
is only needing about 0.3 seconds ...
i'd try and disable those other apps you have running, ie juicedefender, task killer etc. and see if that makes a difference?
I replaced my first defy because i hear the echo of my voice during a call (also the new one has same problem),
in the new defy some applications crash, also home, sometimes when I was surfing appeared the notice of the high consumption of CPU at 100%, but i use "Task Manager" that closes automatically after 10min of inactivity some applications
has also been updated to 2.3.6 ( the bild 231 that is not yet "rootabile") and reset to default, I tried adw launcher launcher and go but I notice, however, sometimes chashes applications and it's slowness to commands
is there an other phone like defy+ that hasn't this problems? like xperio neo, xperia ray...
Well, what was the original phone OS before updated? There is a known bug in the usa versions of 2.2.1 that causes CPU max-out. But I suppose it could be in some of the other builds. The only easy solution was to set debugging to ON. Might be worth a try if you haven't already.
first there was 2.3.4
debugging usb?