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Does push Gmail require my data connection to be on all the time? If so, how much battery drain does a constant data connection cause?
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Does push Gmail require my data connection to be on all the time? If so, how much battery drain does a constant data connection cause?
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no. ur using activesync so u have d choice of setting it to manual sync, or interval or immediate (always on)
if ur using edge, expect 8-9 hours.
3g, 6 hours top.
I’d just like to add my 2 cents in this so that people don’t get turned off by push email…
I happen to connect to an Exchange Server via Active Sync for my email. For 14 hrs a day, it’s set to sync “as items arrive” (i.e. push). During the night, I set the sync schedule to “manual”.
I get a moderate amount of emails each day and I have to say that I’ve not notice a substantial battery drain relative to an IMAP connection that polls every hour.
Push email doesn't require a constant connection as if you're always downloading something. It's more of a "pulse" connection. Try to research a bit into exactly how push email works and you'll see what I mean...
There are two ways to push gmail (or two that I've used recently). One is the new gmail sync, which is an Exchange server. Using that method, I was getting about 8 hours of battery.
The other method is the System Seven beta. I used this for a year+ on my Moto Q before gmail sync became available. I don't know how System Seven works -- it's not Exchange and it's not IMAP. But it works. It seems to be more reliable and quicker than gmail sync, at least for now. It never has gmail sync's problem with passing through attachments. On my TP2, with Seven, I can turn Direct Push off in Comm Manager, and I get more than 24 hours of battery. The only funny glitch with Seven is that on the TF3D home messaging tab, in the little envelope on the screen, instead of showing the beginning of the message, it says, "Click to view message." But that's o.k.; I wouldn't read messages on that screen anyway.
I recently switched back from gmail sync to Seven, and for now it's better. I expect that in a short while, gmail sync will iron out some bugs and become more responsive, and maybe I'll switch back.
One feature that neither of them have, and I'm dying for: The ability to synchronize flags, to mark a message as "Follow up" in Pocket Outlook and have it star the message in gmail. Gmail sync allows the flag, and it will sync with Outlook, but not directly with gmail on the web.
System Seven is here: http://community.seven.com/main.php
It's free and seems likely to remain so...
I have a de-branded Orange Desire and I applied the OTA update with a goldcard in. Everything seems to be working ok except for push email.
I have tried deleting all the stored details (cache etc) of google mail, HTC mail etc which is recommended when others have had problems with push email.
So anyone else noticed any issues? Is there a problem with gmail which happens to have co-incided with when I did the update or is this a problem with the update?
OK I have done some more playing and I am fairly sure that update has broken this.
on 1.15 I was getting push notifications from my gmail account (I think anyway...) in the HTC mail app. Now I am not
I have just re-enabled notifications in the google mail app and this now pops up as soon as I send a message from my PC. No matter what I do the HTC app does not seem to want to play.
Even when set to sync every 15 minutes this did not seem to want to pick up any email (it did work sometimes but not consistently).
I much prefer the HTC mail app (and widget) to the google one but as it stands I can only get notifications from google. I did think I could just leave google app for notifications and mail app for checking but the google notifications do not get cleared when you open HTC app which is a tad annoying.
Anyone else suffering from similar issues or have some ideas about what the best solution might be?
I had the same problem. I am on a debranded and updated rom but using the Orange network.
I found that my email was not being pulled down from two POP accounts. Everytime I adjusted settings I recieved messages about not connected to server etc or host cannot be found etc.
about 24 hours later it all works great... emails come in properly and I can send. It might be worth setting it up. checking that you have a network connection to Orange and that you have set your auto download times. Then leave it to get on with it for a while.
GMail has continued to push mail to my phone fine since the update, however my other two email accounts (one IMAP and one Exchange ActiveSync) which are polled often stop sync'ing until I do it manually. The same also appears to be true of my other sync accounts... Facebook and Twitter. I haven't been able to work out what causes them to stop sync'ing, and what later then enables them to randomly start sync'ing again. It's annoying, it makes sync and notifications for these services totally worthless because you can't just assume it's working, you always have to manually check.
Another way in which HTC has let itself down with poor s/w quality, IMHO
No problems for me here in my debranded Orange black Desire
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Gmail still working fine, FB and Twitter (official app) both update as expected every hour...don't use any other email as my phone is setup for my DJ work
I'm getting the same issue, GMail is fine but push email through Exchange isn't happening.
Presumably it's one of the reasons TMobile has now pulled the update. Hopefully a fix will be out soon
Hi everyone, lately after the OTA update of my Desire HD with Android 2.3.5 ( 3.13.707.4 ) i experience strange problems with the Mail application. The mail applications was setup before and now with my gmail accound, using ActiveSync. Before the update my mail was pushed well to say so, every time i received an email in seconds was on the phone.
Now, the settings in the Mail app are the same, push mail, but when i receive an email, even i see that the Mail client is syncing the mail will not appear, after several manual refresh the mail appears.
Another strange thing, during the day i don't receive the mail as was supposed to, although the mail is setup to push mail. If a let the phone alone and i do not check the mails manual, after 2-3 hours the client suddenly sync all the emails..
Dose anyone experience this problem?
P.S. i setup the Gmail program on my HTC and this is working well but i don't really like the program, i want to use Mail.
Thank you for being patient to read this...long post
Same Problem On DHD 3.12.405.8
Hy there,
it's been a while, since 3.0 Sense (1st Gingerbread update); even custom roms for our device or from other porting have this issue. I have stock www3.12.405.1
Now it seems to me i found a way out. Go to your google account on the web, and make sure pop3 is disabled in account settings.
Let me know if it works.
Bye.
Francesco
Italy
Hello, ok now i disable the POP access from Gmail settings, today i will test to see if the mail behavior is ok and i will post the results.
Till now, after i disable tht POP access i test by sending an e'mail from another account and still no luck, the mail didn't come on my DHD, i will wait more and see if other mail are pushed on the device.
Thaks
This strange problem happened with me both in Gmail and Yahoo. I finally figured out the solution. Go to the account settings and manually change the settings. You will find that the mail application has added "htc" in the incoming server settings. Just delete "htc" and you will be good to go.
SO incoming settings for Gmail should be:
imap.gmail.com
NOT
htc.imap.gmail.com
This also applies to Yahoo mail if you use it, just remove "htc" from the server address.
Ok, but imap.google.com is for IMAP, i use exchange settings and in Mail application m.google.com
Ok, till now no change in the Mail behavior, still syncs whenever it wants apparently.
In Gmail settings POP3 is OFF and IMAP ON
Any one, any idea?
Strange thing....i observed that if i setup the default gmail application to sync mails the Mail app syncs to
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Any ideas about this behavior?
yesterday i let the phone to sync only the exchange account and my mails were downloaded randomly, there were situations when the mail won't download even if i open the Mail app and refresh manual. I have to refresh for about 3-4 times for the mails to be sync....all without an error
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Hi everyone, lately after the OTA update of my Desire HD with Android 2.3.5 ( 3.13.707.4 ) i experience strange problems with the Mail application. The mail applications was setup before and now with my gmail accound, using ActiveSync. Before the update my mail was pushed well to say so, every time i received an email in seconds was on the phone.
Now, the settings in the Mail app are the same, push mail, but when i receive an email, even i see that the Mail client is syncing the mail will not appear, after several manual refresh the mail appears.
Another strange thing, during the day i don't receive the mail as was supposed to, although the mail is setup to push mail. If a let the phone alone and i do not check the mails manual, after 2-3 hours the client suddenly sync all the emails..
Dose anyone experience this problem?
P.S. i setup the Gmail program on my HTC and this is working well but i don't really like the program, i want to use Mail.
Thank you for being patient to read this...long post
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I have the same issue. After coming out of airplane mode If I manually refresh for new mail across several exchange and pop accounts including GMAIL. It seems as if nothing happens for ages before it completes. However if you start the refresh, immediately cancel it and refresh again it works as it should...
Thanks! I will try this today and post the results
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ActiveSync is not pop or imap... it's exchange.
Do not configure anything in your mail app or gmail app.
Go in Configuration->Account and sync->Add account.
Choose 'Enterprise' and fill this info of Exchange mail.
For ex:
\[email protected]
password
server=m.google.com
tic 'SSL'
then follow instruction, you're done (and leave auto/push for frequency)
All your mail will be in the default mail app.
those are exact my settings, today i delete the account and create another one, thinking that my be a problem because the account was created previously the OTA update.
THE PROBLEM...is annoying!!! In the first hours the mail came as it supposed to ( push mail ), around 2PM, after several hours of good time ( no relations, just as a fact ) the mail was, again, syncing but no mail.....that was strange, i click and open the Mail app, refresh manualy, no new mail......i check the gmail account on my computer and were several mails in the inbox. After that i click refresh in the Mail app and still nothing, i click the button for 3-4 times and the mails appears. WHY???
i wand my nokia 3310 back (
kidding....
hum... then I can't understand.
I have no idea if it's on your phone side or server side.
You have to compare... but not easy.
You have to find a way to isolate phone and server. If you have another phone, configure it to check. If you have the same effect with more than one device maybe it's on server side. You can also try to flash another ROM. I'm with ICS and it's working smoothly (4 exchange account and 1 IMAP).
Sorry to not be able to help more, never encounter this problem.
For me it's pushed with exchange, so the sending is manage by the server.
Make sure also that you're still connected to a network. Try browsing Internet.
Just ideas... good tricky question...
Thanks!
I tested out a few days ago, i configured the Gmail app from my HTC to sync the e-mails.....at the same time, the Mail app was configured as today. Surprise! when an e-mail arrived ( pushed ) in Gmail app arrived in Mail app as well
I thought that the problem was resolved and i disable the sync for the Gmail app leaving just the Maill to sync.....then you now all.....the mail arrives when my phone wants to )
Still an interesting thread
today i decided to do a factory defaults.....i erased everything and the SD too.
still the same problem, for the first mails arrived was ok...were pushed. after 15-20 min. the rest of the incoming mails no push, only after i have to do a manual refresh for 3-4 times
i will eat this phone!
Does this problem happen to you on Wifi and 3G? If it only happens on 3G then I think your network provider uses server caching. I have the same problem with my network and Whatsapp.
I tried both, 3g and wi fi....the same
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Ok....i think i have the answer for this incredible behavior of this Mail app
Yesterday i was talking with a friend about this strange behavior and we start doing some random tests with different settings in the Mail app till we discover this:
The default settings of peak time start was 08:00 and peak time end 20:00
We change this to: peak time start 07:00 peak time end 6:59
now it's working well....i think it's a bug here because i use the peak time till the OTA update with this settings:
peak start 07:00 peak end 22:00 and i had no problem.
Thank you for your answers all !!!!
i think we can close this thread
Glad you figured it out
Now it's weekend....and my mail starts again.....my mails are pushed when the Maill app wants. Hope it's just for weekend.....
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I'm having trouble getting Push Email working in Jelly Bean 4.1.1 without Auto Sync on.
With ICS (and all previous versions of Android 2.2 and 2.3) I was able to still have my emails pushed to the phone without having Auto Sync enabled. For some reason it own't work in JB.
I don't want to have Auto Sync as i try to turn as much off as i can to save battery life.
Has anyone heard of something being changed on JB to not allow Push to work without Auto Sync.
Thanks in advance for any info provided.
I initially had the same problem. Here's what worked for me, no guarantee it will work for you. When setting up my account I cleared the default port setting and just left it blank. Then my work server set the proper number.
Been having the same issue.
Now trying your potential solution and will see.
Update:
This does, oddly, seem to have worked.
Re-Update:
Nope. Back to non-functioning.
furryfrog said:
Been having the same issue.
Now trying your potential solution and will see.
Update:
This does, oddly, seem to have worked.
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Seconded.
This worked. The battery on my Nexus S was drained in 5 hours of stand-by yesterday and the battery usage was 70% Exchange. Checked my work email via the pc and I had about 50 emails that didn't get to my phone.
Found this thread, went to my exchange settings and removed the "0" from the port setting, clicked save and voila, emails rolling in fine.
There is no way to make it work!!!
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I am desperated. A couple of days after installing JB 4.1.1 the automatic official update from Google, the Exchange email account suddenly gave up working. After deleting and recreating several times the account the email still could not be synchronized. I configure everything in automatic option but it does not work. I delete the port number and leave it blank but it does not work.
I always get the same error inside the Exchange application with emails previously synchronized, that the application cannot connect to the server but the server is up and running and the configuration is correct. When I delete the accound and recreate once more again and open Exchange app it remains long long time waiting for sync, but it never syncs.
Sometimes when trying to tweak the configuration I get the system message that the account is not found.
It drives me crazy. After trying everything explained above several times I finally succeed to synchronize by activating the general sync button in the main desktop applet (the one for Energy saving which has GPS, WiFi, screen light level, Sync and Bluetooth) and waiting for the system to ask me for reactivating the Security - Device Manager options to allow the security policy specified by the email server.
Do I have to set always the general sync button on?. It will drain the battery, won't it?. Why suddenly it looses the connection and I have to make all this mess to recoup the connection to Exchange server and sync again my corporate email?
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I am desperated. A couple of days after installing JB 4.1.1 the automatic official update from Google, the Exchange email account suddenly gave up working. After deleting and recreating several times the account the email still could not be synchronized. I configure everything in automatic option but it does not work. I delete the port number and leave it blank but it does not work.
I always get the same error inside the Exchange application with emails previously synchronized, that the application cannot connect to the server but the server is up and running and the configuration is correct. When I delete the accound and recreate once more again and open Exchange app it remains long long time waiting for sync, but it never syncs.
Sometimes when trying to tweak the configuration I get the system message that the account is not found.
It drives me crazy. After trying everything explained above several times I finally succeed to synchronize by activating the general sync button in the main desktop applet (the one for Energy saving which has GPS, WiFi, screen light level, Sync and Bluetooth) and waiting for the system to ask me for reactivating the Security - Device Manager options to allow the security policy specified by the email server.
Do I have to set always the general sync button on?. It will drain the battery, won't it?. Why suddenly it looses the connection and I have to make all this mess to recoup the connection to Exchange server and sync again my corporate email?
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I have done the same with no luck either.
I currently have the trial version of Touchdown installed to use for syncing in the meantime, but that's not what I want.
Yes, the sync button will drain battery, and I have gotten Exchange to work with that turned on. I want my simple push email to always function regardless of the system background data sync being on or off - like it used to.
furryfrog said:
I have done the same with no luck either.
I currently have the trial version of Touchdown installed to use for syncing in the meantime, but that's not what I want.
Yes, the sync button will drain battery, and I have gotten Exchange to work with that turned on. I want my simple push email to always function regardless of the system background data sync being on or off - like it used to.
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By now it's still working fine. Let's cross fingers. But always with Sync button on. My conclusion is that also we must be careful with the device manager option the security settings. It allows Exchange to access system security settings. If not, the system perhaps blocks the synchronization. Battery does not look to drain much faster than before with Sync button off.
Exchange Email on Jelly Bean 4.1.1 - Waiting for Sync forever
today I got my new galaxy nexus phone with JB 4.1.1 and I am facing the same issue as mentioned by other members. I have tried the following and none of them have worked so far
I am able to connect to my exchange server but its the "waiting for sync" that's not working
1 - removing and recreating my corporate email account more than once
2 - removed the PORT and let the app set it for me didn't work
3 - went to settings and did sync from there for my account didnt work
4 - enabled auto sync and that didn't work
I'm not sure everyone is understanding the proper use of Syncing. Basically yes your account has to have Sync on. The other option is only the Method it will use. For example if you choose "Automatic (Push)" that just means that when your work server gets an email it will push it to your phone (i.e. your phone doesnt check at all... it waits for communication from the server which is the best battery saving sync option). So if you turn Sync completely off your phone will no longer receive the push emails (you can turn sync off on all other accounts).
Removing the port will likely not do anything. It will either just use the default (443) or not use one and it wont work at all. As an example I have a hotmail calendar that I share with my girlfriend (we keep our social stuff in it). When I create the account I choose not to sync anything but the calendar and set it to "Automatic (Push)". This means that my phone should almost never use battery on that account until one of us adds something to it.
If it worked in ICS it was likely a bug that was fixed in JB. When you turn Sync off it means no syncing will happen at all (push or otherwise)
My problem with exchange is.
Setting up configuration = all ok
Server verifies = all ok
But my company requires a security verification through pin. In ICS it automatically made that security option available.
In JB I'm stuck in exchange setup (name, signature, ...)
Synchronizing loop
(send from Nexus S JRO03E)
Email Security settings issue
sheepz said:
My problem with exchange is.
Setting up configuration = all ok
Server verifies = all ok
But my company requires a security verification through pin. In ICS it automatically made that security option available.
In JB I'm stuck in exchange setup (name, signature, ...)
Synchronizing loop
(send from Nexus S JRO03E)
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Same issue here.. It just doesnt show the menu to activate PIN and the email doesnt sync... Need help!!!
Can you not just go ahead and set a PIN before trying to Sync? If its already there the phone wont ask you to do it
any fix for this Jelly Bean bug? It just waiting for the sync.
I use 3 separate exchange accounts and dont have this bug at all. I'm not even really sure what it is. Each time I add my Exchange account right after I click "Activate" I get a little notification that says I need to update my security and I put in my PIN and away I go
I had the same error because of limited internal storage. This is what happened:
1. After update to the new OS, all the apps automatically downloaded and installed on the internal storage.
Note: You may want to check your internal storage first to make sure that you have the same issue [Settings->System Settings->Storage].
2. Sometime after that my email stopped syncing.
3. I did reboots and add/delete many time, but still got the "waiting to sync" message.
What worked !
1. Settings -> Manage apps ->Downloaded (scroll left).
2. Click on individual apps and then click "Move to USB storage".
Once space was freed on the internal storage, everything started working.
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chkamran said:
I had the same error because of limited internal storage. This is what happened:
1. After update to the new OS, all the apps automatically downloaded and installed on the internal storage.
Note: You may want to check your internal storage first to make sure that you have the same issue [Settings->System Settings->Storage].
2. Sometime after that my email stopped syncing.
3. I did reboots and add/delete many time, but still got the "waiting to sync" message.
What worked !
1. Settings -> Manage apps ->Downloaded (scroll left).
2. Click on individual apps and then click "Move to USB storage".
Once space was freed on the internal storage, everything started working.
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Note: I did reset the phone before the update which resulted in the automatic download and install.
raghav12 said:
Same issue here.. It just doesnt show the menu to activate PIN and the email doesnt sync... Need help!!!
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Nexus S runnning 4.1.1 stock
This worked for me:
remove port in the incomming server setting
set update to "push"
enable the SYNC button
I used to manualy sync, whenever i needed to access my cooperate mail.
Good luck!
I've tried the stock exchange email app a few times and found it to be overall fairly good. however until I can have the inbox show mail from all folders then it's useless as a mobile email client. I cant be going into each folder (I have 30ish separate email folders with rules on exchange that automatically puts mail from x client into x folder)
I this something that can be done or am I missing a trick. also having to go into each folder and set it's sync options individually is a bind. I'd really love to use the stock client as it looks and behaves far better than (touchdown) but without a unified inbox from all the email folders it's a no no.
Other than that the exchange client works perfectly for me on 4.1.1 (AOKP)
Hi all.
Same issue as others and bk13 After the JB update, Exchange stopped working, as well as Hotmail connection.
I can get the set up done like another here, it is confirmed, but gets stuck at Waiting for Sync endless circle. It is set up to automatic (push) and sync email.
I tried the leave port blank, and it filled in with the 443 default port.
Please help.
I can't get the hotmail to work either, and I see from other forums, it is an issue. what a pain.
Found this on another forum and it work for me. I will see if it will let me set up my Hotmail account now.
It worked for my Hotmail account also. I had to go back and re-check the Auto Data Sync but it worked. Finally, back to normal...
I've found a solution here. Credit goes to Keith Hurst.
JellyBean 4.1.1 Sync | AVForums.com - UK Onlineolution:
Settings --> Data Usage --> Menu --> and check Auto Sync Data
Try setting up Exchange account again and you'll see the prompt to activate a Device Administrator this time.
Thanks,
no connection
when I add my exchange account with the correct settings I do not get a connection?
when I use the same credentials on a Samsung Galaxy SII or SIII instead of my own Samsung Galaxy Nexus it works fine???
I'm Runing JB (4.1.1) and my @work exchange account version = Exchange 2010 SP2 rollup 4
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apoc [t.i.m.] said:
when I add my exchange account with the correct settings I do not get a connection?
when I use the same credentials on a Samsung Galaxy SII or SIII instead of my own Samsung Galaxy Nexus it works fine???
I'm Runing JB (4.1.1) and my @work exchange account version = Exchange 2010 SP2 rollup 4
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used this to fix it:
http://www.nonstop.co.il/kb/view.php?kb=29
(yes you need to be sys.admin or else ask your sys.admin to do so)
Emoze push mail for ICS
sniperIT said:
I'm having trouble getting Push Email working in Jelly Bean 4.1.1 without Auto Sync on.
With ICS (and all previous versions of Android 2.2 and 2.3) I was able to still have my emails pushed to the phone without having Auto Sync enabled. For some reason it own't work in JB.
I don't want to have Auto Sync as i try to turn as much off as i can to save battery life.
Has anyone heard of something being changed on JB to not allow Push to work without Auto Sync.
Thanks in advance for any info provided.
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I had similar issues with weird behavior of the push and sync and I installed Emoze Push client which gives me the ability to push any type of email ,obviously Exchange and IMAP but even POP3 which is very limited email protocol.
I've done benchmarks with the stock ICS email client and with several third party clients like Touchdown, Moxier, K9 and I find that Emoze has the advantage in almost every aspect.
Push notification is stable and fast ,less than 60 sec.
Battery consumption is low ,I’m able to work in push mode without charging for 22 hours.
I’m quite a heavy email user so it was kind of a surprise to me because I used to have 6-8 hours max with only one account working in push.
I have 5 email accounts which is about 100-200 email per day so no kidding ,this one really improved my life ,I’m less paranoid about my battery.
Other features which are quit useful are the security options that allows you to find the device location by SMS or email
and also to remote wipe or block by SMS.
This is cool because you don’t need PC connected to the internet to get the job done ,you can simply send SMS to your phone number to activate the security process.
I've noticed,since switching from HTC Hero to Gnex,that my stock Email client won't refresh with no matter what version of ROM.
I never use Gmail app,only a default one with 5 inboxes combined. Refresh time is set 5mins primary and 1hr other. No matter i put SYNC button on or off,I recieve no notifications,only when entering the app.
On my Hero with Gingerbread it worked flawlessly with even whole Sync turned off.....app checked the inbox as I set.
What could be the problem?
Possible solutions are settings in gmail app, Google account settings
in main settings, sync enabled on toggles, bad gapps download etc.
If all else fails d/l ROM and stable gapps again backup with adb and
reflash.
I use stock e-mail client,not a Gmail one...