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Insurance gave me a new evo, however, I found the lost evo, can I sell it?

Please read title. Thank you kindly.

Cant they track it?

You could sell it, but that's kinda morally objectionable.
Plus it will be flagged as having a bad ESN, so it won't be able to be activated on Sprint.

ShadowDrake said:
You could sell it, but that's kinda morally objectionable.
Plus it will be flagged as having a bad ESN, so it won't be able to be activated on Sprint.
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Yea But cant you still use it??

the point is you can do what you want but sprint is not going to let it be put on a line.The ESN has been blacklisted so if you want to use it as a music player or whatever you want that does not use phone service or data then yes but as a phone No.

I will buy it for forty dollars!
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Once you lose a phone, Sprint places it on a lost/stolen list. If you sell it, the purchaser will not be able to activate it.

Sell on ebay and state has bad esn

I think if you only went through asurion the phone might still work. I had a phone that was lost and I did it through the website and i gave the phone to someone else when i found it and they told me that it activated. So maybe have a friend try and see if it works.
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Ill Buy it for $50 dollars, no questions ask!! I want to start into development roms, and ill be good for me!!!

Why even ask a question like that? Once you accepted the condition to file the claim then the phone belongs to the insurance company. The only sense to this question is that you want to know if you will be in any kind trouble.
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i thought the same thing too when i lost my phone in the movie theatre after it fell out of my pocket. I filed a claim and got the replacment then i was able to find my lost phone shortly after. i checked the ESN and it was still clean. i was surprised but now i have two evos. You can always call them and check if its still a valid esn.

Because I don't want to cause anyone any undo trouble. I would like to get my deductible back so I will say bad esn on eBay for $100 as another forum member sugested. Thank you for all input into this discussion.
Why even ask a question like that? Once you accepted the condition to file the claim then the phone belongs to the insurance company. The only sense to this question is that you want to know if you will be in any kind trouble.
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You certainly can activate it still.
I lost my TP2 and got a new one thru insurance and then Sprint called me and told me someone turned in my lost tp2.
I reactivated my original the second I got home. I sold the new TP2. I called Sprint and they told me I was supposed to send the lost one to the insurance but it was up to me. They didn't really care.
Moral wrong..yes... doable .. yes.

if you call ausrion and get a replacement phone they send you another one out but by law or sprint policy (not sure which its to early for me to google it a few sprint employees have told me though) they cant contact sprint and flag it as bad ESN your suppose to do that yourself. So you can activate the old one if you like with 0 issues. Been their and have done it. (on accident found the missing phone like a week or 2 later) sold it to a friend and he is still using it.

There are methods to make a phone work on another carrier if it has a bad ESN on Sprint. Cricket and Metro PCS are the carriers that are most commonly used in the US. I actually bought an Evo on Craigslist a while back for a good price. It wasn't listed as lost/stolen, but it was still tied to a suspended Sprint account. I later sold it on eBay for $360 and listed it with a bad ESN and a bad headphone jack. I think the guy I sold it to was planning on using it in Mexico.
Even without activation, an Evo makes a pretty nice MID on Wifi. Just be warned that most Android devices won't connect to an ad-hoc Wifi network, so it's hard to tether it to another phone.

You could sell it for more than $100. Can't you hack it to work with VZW PRL? Maybe that'll sell for more.

Technically you could sell it to someone on metro pcs or cricket.. they dont care about esn's being blacklisted they'll activate it anyway.

nunyabiziz said:
Why even ask a question like that? Once you accepted the condition to file the claim then the phone belongs to the insurance company. The only sense to this question is that you want to know if you will be in any kind trouble.
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Oh God the moral police is here. Its a very valid question. I would do the same damn thing this Guy is doing. Just think of it as a way to recover that 10 dollars extra a month we are ALL getting hosed for every month.
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The "moral" thing to do is call the insurance company, explain that you found your old phone and you would like to return the phone and get your deductible returned as well.
I would think they would go for it as they make out in the end.
And you can sleep at night knowing they won't catch on to you some day and deactivate your phone. (highly doubt that could ever happen, but I tend to have a really guilty conscience. what's a $100 anyway.....)

[Q] Gave up RSA Keys, I've already got a replacement Evo, Will they give me another?

Pretty much borked myself out of 4G, I just unrooted my phone back to stock, ready to take it to Sprint tomorrow. Just a few questions before I do so.
Q1: When i first got my evo they gave me one with a broken volume down button, i went back and they replaced it, telling me i can't get a refund now. =_= Does this mean i cant return my current Evo? (2nd one)
Q2: How do i come at them about replacing my phone? Do i say i updated to the most recent OTA and now my 4G doesnt work? or Do i report it stolen or lost? I dont know what to do. I just dont want to end up paying for a brand new one or refurbished one.
Q3: Should i just switch over to Boost mobile and cancel my account with sprint since i dont have 4G anymore? This would be more positive thinking if i cant get a free Evo replacement again.
Q4: Just reassuring myself, Theres no way to create a wimax image using the RSA key info from my RSA_oem.key file? I read some where that you can use the hex editor to change info on a wimax template to work with your phone.
It was dumb of me, i remember it like it was yesterday. I had no 4G connection, but i had my Keys. (not backed up of course) So i figured it was my Wimax/Radio, next i formatted Wimax and lost my keys. (Eternally screwed) Dont EVER do this if you're reading this. First thing I'm gunna do when i get my new Evo is back up my RSA keys.

Do you have insursance on it? If not then your SOL. I had same issue with my 4g and I told them I had been updating my profile and prl (after flashing stock rom) and it dropped and shut off, then after reboot I couldn't get 4g. They took it for testing and I came back and got a new phone. I had insurance

Yes i have insurance thank god. Did they make you pay a deductible? sorry for the late post i had forgotten of this post. I talked to a customer at my local sprint store and he told me i should just pay the 100$ deductible and write it off as damage cuz they'll give me an Evo 3D they're not handing out evos anymore, but i still want to try :3

jasmnjosh said:
Yes i have insurance thank god. Did they make you pay a deductible? sorry for the late post i had forgotten of this post. I talked to a customer at my local sprint store and he told me i should just pay the 100$ deductible and write it off as damage cuz they'll give me an Evo 3D they're not handing out evos anymore, but i still want to try :3
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Sprint store reps won't know if you would be getting a 3D for insurance replacement, you would have to contact Asurion about that. Some people have been getting the 3D, but some have still been getting the OG Evo. All depends on what they have in stock when you make your claim.
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quick idea, instead of paying $100 for a replacement thru your insurance for a refurbished phone, you could go onto craigslist and buy a new evo slightly used for the same price thats probably in better condition. Just throwing the idea out there.

JollyGrnReefer said:
quick idea, instead of paying $100 for a replacement thru your insurance for a refurbished phone, you could go onto craigslist and buy a new evo slightly used for the same price thats probably in better condition. Just throwing the idea out there.
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I have a rooted evo with a new LCD for sale.
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I just "lost " my old evo and they sent me a new one that's what I would do and its brand new
sent from my fresh a$$ EVO

slaterdahater said:
I just "lost " my old evo and they sent me a new one that's what I would do and its brand new
sent from my fresh a$$ EVO
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You only have to pay a deductible if theatre physical damage. If your wimax is damage just flash a stock rom and when you bring it in say you were updating the prl or profile and it dropped and when you turned it on 4g wasn't working. They will take it for testing then give you a new one.
Positively works
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Insurance Claim questions

So I heard you can possibly get the Evo 3D as a replacement and I was considering doing this if that was the case. My phone isn't broken per say or lost/stolen so I had some questions regarding making a claim.
My phone does have some slight physical damage but it's not too bad but I've had it for a little over a year and a $100 to get the Evo 3D for the next year until my contract is up and ready for an upgrade would be pretty nice I think. With that said here are my questions.
1. If I make the claim and say my screen is completely broken/shattered, will they make me send the phone back to them? Or would I be able to use this as a backup phone?
2. If I report it lost/stolen again would I be able to use it again as a backup or do they block this phone from ever being used on Sprint?
Just trying to figure out if it's worth spending the $100 when I don't necessarily need a new phone....It would just be nice to have a brand new Evo 3D for the next year though. With the possibility of having my old Evo sitting around in case I ever need it if that's possible.
Thoughts?

If you report it lost or stolen that would be considered insurance fraud
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evo4gnoob said:
If you report it lost or stolen that would be considered insurance fraud
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Hmm I certainly don't want that then. What if I claim the screen no longer turns on or just doesn't boot because I dropped it? Still insurance fraud? And if not could I possibly use it as a backup phone?

Sniggity said:
Hmm I certainly don't want that then. What if I claim the screen no longer turns on or just doesn't boot because I dropped it? Still insurance fraud? And if not could I possibly use it as a backup phone?
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Technically, lying to the insurance company or filing a false claim is insurance fraud, regardless of the reasoning.
You have to send the phone into them unless it is lost or stolen. If you report it lost or stolen then the ESN is blacklisted and you won't be able to activate it again. There's really no way to do what you're trying to do without committing insurance fraud. You may be able to sell your Evo and buy a used Evo 3D for not much more, I don't really know the asking price for either phone used.
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If I recall someone is selling a 3vo for 250 in the marketplace rooted and s-off if you want to check that out
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Insurance fraud doesn't help anybody. Sell ur Evo and buy a 3d if that's what u want. Check out the going prices for each and determine if you can afford the difference. If not stick with what you have. Man up
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Looking for blacklisted tmobile s2

Any1 looking to sell his blacklisted tmobile s2 ?? For cheap offcourse..
Send me a pm .. I'm looking for a friend as she only uses wifi...
Its true that if i like the device i'm going to keep it with me..

Better be careful with this... buying possibly stolen merchandise ( or reported as stolen ) can get you in some trouble
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Will be using it on WIFI ONLY, NO SIM ..
Help me get one please...

sanchitgrover said:
Will be using it on WIFI ONLY, NO SIM ..
Help me get one please...
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The problem is brother,the phone my have been stolen.Which is a crime.So you may now own evidence in a crime.I would not mess with this.
From a galaxy better than yours.

I think its his decision to make if he wants to take that risk or not. He had been told what can happen and now its up to him.
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Sir, i'll be using it in india.. Where there is nothing called BLACKLIST.. Hehehe..
Come on, some1 might be looking to sell one.. I'll be helping u recover ur lost money

sanchitgrover said:
Sir, i'll be using it in india.. Where there is nothing called BLACKLIST.. Hehehe..
Come on, some1 might be looking to sell one.. I'll be helping u recover ur lost money
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Try the marketplace and make a thread there, duh !

KillaHurtz said:
Try the marketplace and make a thread there, duh !
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Uh no u can't sell blacklisted items in the marketplace duh!
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pretty sure discussion of stolen devices is against the rules here(don't argue, if it's blacklisted then it's either stolen or not paid for)
don't be a cheapskate and let the scammers make money..seriously..have some damn morals

Its possible that someone could report a phone lost or stolen....and then find it later. It has happened to me before.
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AznDud333 said:
pretty sure discussion of stolen devices is against the rules here(don't argue, if it's blacklisted then it's either stolen or not paid for)
don't be a cheapskate and let the scammers make money..seriously..have some damn morals
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I really doubt it.
Did you not see the long thread in FAQ with the guy whining about nobody telling him how to change his IMEI and how its stupid that Tmobile blacklist with people agreeing with him?

If your friend is only gonna use it for wifi just get a kindle fire for her. For 199 that's hella cheap. A blacklisted sgs2 will cost the same or more.
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Guys .. calm down.. I was just thinking that if someone has been scammed and now he has nothing except a mp3 player left with him,then I can take it.. not looking for a thief to steal one for me...

sanchitgrover said:
Guys .. calm down.. I was just thinking that if someone has been scammed and now he has nothing except a mp3 player left with him,then I can take it.. not looking for a thief to steal one for me...
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I support this all the way.
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Devi0124 said:
Its possible that someone could report a phone lost or stolen....and then find it later. It has happened to me before.
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then return it, you should not profit from it..if you reported it stolen and got a new one, the old one is no longer your "property"

if reported lost and then found at a later time... i dont see a problem selling it... AS LONG AS its not sold for more than you paid for your replacement device from Tmobile
so if you paid $150 to have it replaced after reporting lost.... do not sell the device for more than $150 to recover your money..... no way should you profit from it

clninja said:
if reported lost and then found at a later time... i dont see a problem selling it... AS LONG AS its not sold for more than you paid for your replacement device from Tmobile
so if you paid $150 to have it replaced after reporting lost.... do not sell the device for more than $150 to recover your money..... no way should you profit from it
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let see how the system works
you buy a 600dollar phone
pay 7bucks a month for insurance
"loses" it, gets a replacement that cost the firm 400dollars
finds old phone, sell it for 200
insurance company doesn't profit, so insurance is raised
if ever one thought of things the way you do, we won't see any insurance firms around..

Most of the guys don't buy outright.. they pay 200$ for the phone.. with a contract..
But this thread wasn't about discussing .. I wanted to buy one only..
And 150$ is what I had in mind too.. so anyone with an offer??
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AznDud333 said:
let see how the system works
you buy a 600dollar phone
pay 7bucks a month for insurance
"loses" it, gets a replacement that cost the firm 400dollars
finds old phone, sell it for 200
insurance company doesn't profit, so insurance is raised
if ever one thought of things the way you do, we won't see any insurance firms around..
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you say that now... but if you were the person who had lost their phone... and bought a new one... and then found it a month or 2 later.... i guarantee you would not call up Asurion and send it back to them

AznDud333 said:
let see how the system works
you buy a 600dollar phone
pay 7bucks a month for insurance
"loses" it, gets a replacement that cost the firm 400dollars
finds old phone, sell it for 200
insurance company doesn't profit, so insurance is raised
if ever one thought of things the way you do, we won't see any insurance firms around..
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You didn't factor the monthly insurance payments. If someone has been paying $7 per month for several years without a claim, the insurance company is not losing anything.
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insurance and refurb questions

I dropped my phone and destroyed the screen, still worked but the screen was shattered and cracked real bad. First phone I ever broke from my own negligence.
I called and requested a new phone and was sent a refurb. After making it clear I was not accepting a refurb and wanted a new one it was sent to me.
I am glad I did since I am now seeing threads on problems with the refurbs. I have had nothing but trouble with them so far; between a droid 2 global and an env touch I received close to two dozen bad phones that were refurbished.
Is there another insurance company that is more willing to take care of their customers? An insurance company that cares about its customers; I know. But I am looking for other options or companies.
I always keep the insurance/extended warranty on all of my phones but all that is ever sent is a phone what was broken and sent back already. I think its a rip off to have a deductible and monthly payment unless there is a new phone to replace the phone I purchased new.
Any input or thoughts? Suggestions on other insurance plans?

Honestly, there is nothing wrong with refurbs. I had a hardware revision .10 Gnex originally, and I messed it up and wouldn't boot. I got Verizon to send me a new one at no cost to me and it's hardware revision .09 but it is identical to my original phone. No need to stigmatize refurbished phones... Half of the refurbs have never even been touched by another owner.

If you get into a car accident you pay the deductible and get your car repaired. Not a brand new car. So, you dropped your USED phone and you think you should get a brand new one from the insurance company? pfft.... If that were the case every asshole would be dropping their phones at the 8 month mark to scam a brand new one. I'm rooting for the insurance company on this one.
good day.

Insurance =brand new phone and u pay the deductible.
Warranty =refurbished phone for free
So did u go through insurance or the warranty as Verizon will not honor user error, ie breaking the screen
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john631 said:
I dropped my phone and destroyed the screen, still worked but the screen was shattered and cracked real bad. First phone I ever broke from my own negligence.
I called and requested a new phone and was sent a refurb. After making it clear I was not accepting a refurb and wanted a new one it was sent to me.
I am glad I did since I am now seeing threads on problems with the refurbs. I have had nothing but trouble with them so far; between a droid 2 global and an env touch I received close to two dozen bad phones that were refurbished.
Is there another insurance company that is more willing to take care of their customers? An insurance company that cares about its customers; I know. But I am looking for other options or companies.
I always keep the insurance/extended warranty on all of my phones but all that is ever sent is a phone what was broken and sent back already. I think its a rip off to have a deductible and monthly payment unless there is a new phone to replace the phone I purchased new.
Any input or thoughts? Suggestions on other insurance plans?
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Square trade us a great alternative as long as you don't lose the phone.
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justin94 said:
Insurance =brand new phone and u pay the deductible.
Warranty =refurbished phone for free
So did u go through insurance or the warranty as Verizon will not honor user error, ie breaking the screen
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I paid the 100.00 deductible. I know verizon does not cover user error but that's why there is the insurance and why I was not going to accept a refurbished phone.
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If you get into a car accident you pay the deductible and get your car repaired. Not a brand new car. So, you dropped your USED phone and you think you should get a brand new one from the insurance company? pfft.... If that were the case every asshole would be dropping their phones at the 8 month mark to scam a brand new one. I'm rooting for the insurance company on this one.
good day.
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Maybe they looked at my account and realized I am not that asshole and that I am in fact the guy that has had insurance on my phones since my Blackberry 8703e and have yet to file a claim.

justin94 said:
Insurance =brand new phone and u pay the deductible.
Warranty =refurbished phone for free
So did u go through insurance or the warranty as Verizon will not honor user error, ie breaking the screen
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Insurance such as Asurion is typically a refurb replacement and is not obligated to send a new phone as a replacement. For that matter, it doesn't even necessarily have to be the same model or manufacturer that they replace it with.
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The first time, ask for a new phone, not a refurb.
You're complaining they don't take good care of you when they sent you two phones when they were only obligated to send you one?

Why didn't u just do a screen replacement. =p
I'd do whatever it takes to keep the original.

joshnichols189 said:
The first time, ask for a new phone, not a refurb.
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Second paragraph first sentence. Haters gonna hate.
Was curious about different options on insurance (not me) and peoples experiences with refub gnexes. I do not know who does the refurb but I personally went through plenty of them with laundry lists of issues.
Maybe samsung does a good job with QC while motorola does not. Broken camera on a the first refurb Droid 2 Global is a perfect example.