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A few people have been having the same issue as me with more recent AKU3.* ROMs, wherein the radio features (GSM/UMTS,GPRS etc) - cease to function. Symptoms include the connectivity icons becoming non-responsive to stylus-press, and phone calls starting, but no call being made (silence) - and calls refusing to end.
This has been driving me nuts, and just when I think a new ROM (CE or Radio) has solved it, it re-appears. I have been playing around with everything I can to either diagnose, or solve this problem, and this is what I have found:
The phone only locks up, when handover between GSM and UMTS has occurred several times. I use the Hutchison 3 network in .au, and the coverage in Sydney is a bit spotty - hence the frequent handover to 'Roaming', and back again. Now that I have disabled the GSM functionality (i.e. just use UMTS, in the 'band' menu in 'Phone' settings) - I haven't had a single phone lockup.
To the other people having this issue: does this pattern of use sound familiar? I.e. is your main carrier UMTS, roaming to GSM? I'd like some feedback to see if we can isolate this, or if this solution works for other people
Hey
Had this problem many times with all kind of roms.
Usually the icons would react to clicks, but internet wouldn't work and also calling.
When I would turn on flight mode, the right icon (your reception) would change and gets a little cross (telling its disabled). But the left one would still be stuck on G/U as connected. It would take a min or 2 before it finally updates to a little cross saying its disabled. Then I can disable flight mode again and the phone would work (most of the time)
I live around 70 km from my work and I drive back and fort every day. In the car my universal is in the charger and I have always live messenger connected and AS for email.
during this trip my reception is lost twice, besides that it switches a couple of times from Umts to Gprs.
I've updated my phone to 1.14 radio en helmi 3.5 aku rom. And have experienced a couple of times what you discribed. The 3G and G/U icons wouldn't react to the stylus and the phone seems to be stuck. The device itself still works. But I have to soft reset to get it going again.
So after reading your story I can say this scenario refers to my experience.
I'm gonna try your solution from off today and let you know
I have only GPRS here and this problem happens to me with all AKU3.x versions even with different radios (1.09 -> 1.14.10) ... I still believe it has nothing to do with ONLY hand-over ... I reverted back to AKU2 and it never happened since then
Same here....
I have similar experiences with UMTS and GSM handover issues. I observed that sticking to one band (in my case GSM since it is more prevalent than the other in countries I go to!) is the way to go. When in M1, I got dropped problematic calls and my SMS were delayed but when I stuck to GSM only then everything was back to normal. I have been trying out the new Radio Rom 1.14.10 with Helmi AKU3.5 for 3 days now and am not having handover issues! Could be the Radio Rom or the Rom itself but if it acts up again then I know what to do then! Hope this helps!!!
The problem is in rilgsm.dll file.
I can tell that it is solved in crossbow.
mamaich said:
The problem is in rilgsm.dll file.
I can tell that it is solved in crossbow.
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would replacing the file in the current aku3 roms with an older one fix it?
i myself dont have the problem but allot of 3.2 wizard testers do.
Good to know, that I'm not the only one with this problem. I have seen this behaviour in all ROMs, not just the AKU3 and can confirm that it iseems to be related to the switchover between UMTS and GSM.
It also only seems to happen only when you have the internet connection open, which will always be the case when you use push-mail.
I had similar problems with the MDA III, whish I used before. Maybe it will get fixed in Crossbow - but by then we'll likely all have new phones.
^^
My internet connection is also always active. I have now switched from AUTO network to WCDMA (umts).
Going to see if this helps. After that I'll try the GSM band to see if it makes a difference
But it's something my device always had problems with, so I guess it's ROM independent
I'd like to see if that rilgsm.dll can be re-used. Unfortunately, the coverage of UMTS in the area where I live is far too spotty to be comfortable with pinning the radio band to UMTS.
However, I'm interested in your thoughts.
I must say that I agree with biso007. This problem started to occur when I upgraded to AKU3 roms. Before, I was on AKU2 with the exact same radio rom (I didn't flash it!) and never had any issue. Combined with mamaichs comment that it is related to a DLL file, I would say that the problem is indeed not related to a radio-ROM but to the AKU ROM.
Just my 2 cents....
I had same problems with Radio lockups on my UNIVERSAL. I've tried different ROMs with no luck. BUT after changing my Radio rom back to latest from T-mobile (1.10.03) everything back to normal- all day driving with GPRS on - no lockups at all!!! 100% solution is..... use old radio rom.
Would not mind downgrading...
I have lockup issues as well... if this really helps, I will downgrade the Radio ROM without hesitation. Where can I find thsi Radio ROM; is it on the xda-dev FTP site?
Thanks,
-Ireneus
Hi All!
Yes, this issue is the most annoying among all other issues, and it makes UNI impossible to use as the phone for business communications.
I confirm that lockup issue existed on EACH radio version I used and on EVERY ROM version.
I don't think this issue is caused by the GSM Band switch or Internet connection active or anything else specific, because this lockup happend even on networks with no 3G at all and no internet connection active and also BT and WiFi off.
It happens when I start intensivelly use my UNI for calls, sms, open contacts, view appointments (note: No 3-d party software at all).
I also mentioned that the issue happens more often with the battery level below 50% or so and almost rarelly happen on external power.
Another "good news" here is that if you receive an SMS during that intensive operations, you will permanently lose it after the phone lock up.
Thank you,
Dmitry.
I wonder is this is just a Universal issue? Or do other devices have the same issues; I mean as frequently as on the UNI.
If it is just the UNI than indeed it is useless as a phone and nothing more than a beeping, brick with a nice VGA screen. I basically fidn it hard to believe that this is the case and I would like to know if there is anyone out there, who does not have lock-up issues with the UNI and I would also like to know from the people who are testing Crossbow if the lock-ups still happen?
All input appreciated.
-Ireneus
I have read dozens of topics on flashing and gps for the xv6900. I flashed using imcokes unlocker, the new sprint radio/rom and finally omjs rom
now I went into my phone settings (via start - settings - phone location and set location instead of 911 on)
I use gps viewer and open google maps but no gps. should I try returning my location setting to 911 and then open gps viewer? I mean this should work but no go
and yes I have googled and search ppgeeks and xda vogue upgrade. no answer. can I get some help
For the first time, stand outside on a sunny day and be patient, it took me about 3 days to finally get it working solid. Keep the "Location On" setting, I don't think it will work with "911 Only"
okay I did get a satellite (5 really) on google maps 2 days ago outside but nothing since. I will try again but flash and everything was alright it was perfect even just weird. but I find my mogul as well did not pick up a gps signal either. that's weird
I don't use GPS a lot, so no guru on it working, but GPS Viewer, built in the ROM I'm using, picked up various sats for me. I used GPS Viewer first, only to see how well the GPS was in fact working, it seemed to be like a meter on muchsignal it was getting. From what I've seen, if you flashed it wrong, your Vogue wouldn't even turn on, so that shouldn't be the problem. There's really only a few things that come into play when getting it to work so check this:
"Location On", like you already have,
System Settings > External GPS:
"Programs" tab: Port "COM4"
"Hardware" tab: Port "NONE", Baud Rate "4800"
"Access" tab: Check "Manage GPS Automatically"
These settings may come like these as default on your ROM.
I've also seen one reg edit that may help:
HKLM > Software > HTC > SUPL AGPS > GPSMode
Try changing from 2 to 1 or 4, helped some people I believe.
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i have a vx6900 verizon toucch and i tried to put the gps program on the phone it did not work and now my phone thinks its a alltell phone and will not work anymore can any one help me please (email me at [email protected] please ) THANKS
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i have a vx6900 verizon toucch and i tried to put the gps program on the phone it did not work and now my phone thinks its a alltell phone and will not work anymore can any one help me please (email me at [email protected] please ) THANKS
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Huh? Are you saying you tried to flash your ROM? Need more info!!!!
dragon1541 said:
i have a vx6900 verizon toucch and i tried to put the gps program on the phone it did not work and now my phone thinks its a alltell phone and will not work anymore can any one help me please (email me at [email protected] please ) THANKS
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i tried the alltell gps flash and now my phone will not worh it boots up as if it is a alltel phone not verizon
dragon1541 said:
i tried the alltell gps flash and now my phone will not worh it boots up as if it is a alltel phone not verizon
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How do you mean by it boots up like Alltell? If you see an image with their logo, it doesn't mean much of anything, it's only an image, you can change it. But it sounds like you ran the RUU (ROM Update Utility) to install the Alltell ROM, which is a key step in upgrading the ROM. But did you unlock it first with ImCokeMan's unlocker, version 2.31 I believe?
Also, press & hold the power and camera buttons, then soft reset, it should but you in a multi-colored screen, the bootloader, what does it say?
As some devs are aware there are those of us who need 3G disabled on Android for our devices. Using the option to "Only Use 2G Networks" does not resolve this. (edit: also, neither does the *#*#INFO#*#*)
I thought it might be helpful to create a thread about it so that if anyone comes up with a solution or if a particular rom build can address this issue (I'm not an expert but it seems like it will have to be a rom based fix? which is why this isn't in software development) there's a place for it.
I use AT&T and have validated my APN settings and tried all manner of selecting the "use only 2g" option (restarting, manually selecting networks, automatically selecting networks, etc.) but it always goes back to 3G.
This can be disabled as if I disable 3G through WinMO it works and HaRET seems to behave when I use it that way (I still select 2g only though).
Personally I use HardSPL 3.56 and Radio 1.71.09.01.
Please help us out Perhaps we could start a bounty -- I'd like to start with $10 for a validated fix.
If someone would be willing to walk me through a build process for their rom perhaps I can test/fumble through C myself and create a "patch" or something that can be applied to other builds. Please feel free to PM me if you can do that and I'll keep any information on this thread.
Thanks for reading this and any help you can provide or direction you can point me in! This is a great community!
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As reported by Softec 2G/3G switching is working for Polaris (Pola100) using KaiserDroid 2.0
http://www.homecncfun.com/kaiserdroid/
Thank you slm4996!
I am trying to use KaiserDroid 2.0 on my Kaiser (Kais160) but thus far haven't gotten data to work. Stay tuned.
Hi
Thanks for starting this thread I am using the same phone (kaiser 130) same hard spl 3.34 and same radio.
I too live in an area where I need to disable 3g to have a usable phone, and have found the same - disable in Windows Mobile and load via haret and then android never tries 3g.
I like the idea of the reward, I'll match your $10 so that makes a $20 bounty on this one, I can test for anyone if they're trying to fix it.
There's a few different ways to accomplish this. All do the same thing but some may be easier for you to do based on your experience. I don't know if the ROMs need to be rooted but given that these are ports you should have no issues with that. You can search through my posts, the various threads or PM me if you need help with that.
Basically you are going to corrupt the (going off of memory here) /etc/apn-config.xml file to point to nonexistent APNs. You don't need to do both of these, these are just different ways to do this:
1.) Download Droidsans Tweaks Lite from Market (free) and you can use it to disable the APN, or you can just to to the APN settings and change the APN name
2.) Download APNdroid (free) and toggle connectivity
There's other ways, but giving you two options should be enough. If you are good enough at messing with ROMs, you can always just delete the apn-config.xml (or whatever it's called) in /etc (which is in the rootfs.img) and it will never connect.
I don't think these 2 actually turn off 3g just the data, my problem is the 3g signal is too weak to be reliable so I need to force 2g completely, not just disable the apn
then can't you just get one of the various (curvefish for example) widgets to toggle 2G/3G or go to settings and say 2G only?
Currently only via Haret
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I don't think these 2 actually turn off 3g just the data, my problem is the 3g signal is too weak to be reliable so I need to force 2g completely, not just disable the apn
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Well the only thing I can suggest is via haret.
1. Via windows goto com manager and disable 3g, and confirm that you have edge showing and connected.
2. Boot haret and you will be limited to edge.
short and sweet.....
the speed is decent enough for me to consider a nexus or desire on ATT's 850 mhz HSDPA/4g
Mo
ps. I hope your thread pushes for a solution via nand b/c its important.
disable 3g not workkint in android
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then can't you just get one of the various (curvefish for example) widgets to toggle 2G/3G or go to settings and say 2G only?
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Sorry n the dsiabling 3g when runing android does not work on the kaiser from our experience, the widget is just a shortcut to the menu.
As noted in post 7 and I tught above the only soluton is to run via haret and. Disable it in windows mobile to re-enable reboot the phone and enable in windows then run haret again.
Can we change the thread to - Android via Nand on Kaiser Disable 3g solution required or something clearer
I would love to be able to run via nand
I have this problem too, i can't disable the 3G signal, i think this problem is only in Kaiser.
i like if someone can "fix" this for us.
Thank you guys for the suggestions. HaRET does work if the WinMO ROM hosting can disable 3G (which most have a switch or something).
I have googled for some time searching for a toggle/switch that disables 3G but as mentioned have only found ones that point to the menu rather than actually disable 3G.
As mentioned the menu does not work.
There's a $20 combined bounty on this already! Please help us out!!
Newest KaiserDroid
I am using a new RIL in KaiserDroid 2.0, have you tried it yet?
http://www.homecncfun.com/kaiserdroid/
If it works I can backport it to older roms till this one is more complete. Thank you for all you feedback on the KaiserDroid thread.
I'll give it a try and let you know...
2G/3G switch is working for me on Polaris Pola100
i finally can use me phone with Android!!!
thanks, great work!
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2G/3G switch is working for me on Polaris Pola100
i finally can use me phone with Android!!!
thanks, great work!
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You're welcome. Do you want to keep using 2.0 or should I backport it for you?
Thus far with KaiserDroid 2.0 I haven't been able to get any data to work. I didn't test making/receiving phonecalls. I plan on posting thoroughly soon but I want to play with it some more (perhaps I've done something ignorant, haha )
I've been using HaRET to test and left my MicroSD at home today will have to try more later this evening. I will also check out KaiserDroid 1.1.
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Thus far with KaiserDroid 2.0 I haven't been able to get any data to work. I didn't test making/receiving phonecalls. I plan on posting thoroughly soon but I want to play with it some more (perhaps I've done something ignorant, haha )
I've been using HaRET to test and left my MicroSD at home today will have to try more later this evening. I will also check out KaiserDroid 1.1.
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Try this update package, it fixes some of the APN's and adds a few more:
http://www.homecncfun.com/wp-content/plugins/download-monitor/download.php?id=15
(this is just an update, put it in your andboot folder and enter the install menu, choose "apply update" then quit)
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Try this update package, it fixes some of the APN's and adds a few more:
http://www.homecncfun.com/wp-content/plugins/download-monitor/download.php?id=15
(this is just an update, put it in your andboot folder and enter the install menu, choose "apply update" then quit)
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Doesn't seem to work, my results/attempt procedure posted here (in KaiserDroid thread)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5780033#post5780033
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You're welcome. Do you want to keep using 2.0 or should I backport it for you?
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Hello, it would be nice to have the opportunity to try different rom, can you tell us what to do if you would be very grateful.
For your rom I noticed that it is a bit slow, the data in WiFi will not work and above all the bateria takes very little.
Charged 100% no WiFi and only a few calls, it was switched off after 6 hours.
I tried the version 2.0, now I have downloaded version 2.1. Test and let you know.
Thank you very much.
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Hello, it would be nice to have the opportunity to try different rom, can you tell us what to do if you would be very grateful.
For your rom I noticed that it is a bit slow, the data in WiFi will not work and above all the bateria takes very little.
Charged 100% no WiFi and only a few calls, it was switched off after 6 hours.
I tried the version 2.0, now I have downloaded version 2.1. Test and let you know.
Thank you very much.
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Please read the thread for the rom you use!! These are all known issues with all ROMs flashed to NAND and to some extent under HaRET. the appropriate fixes and/or workaround have been posted in the thread. I am working a howto to back port the RIL but if you start poking around in the sysinit.rc it should be fairly obvious what files you need.
keep in mind that KaiserDroid 2.0/2.1 are ALPHA release and as such contain bugs.
Hello slm4996, it was not my intension held high controversy, I just wanted to clear up why do not I was using your rom and use the 3G off on another rom.
I looked at the file sysinit.rc as you recommended and I changed the line:
service ril-daemon /system/bin/rild -l /system/lib/libhtcgeneric-ril.so -- -d /dev/smd0
with
service ril-daemon /system/bin/rild
Then I replaced the file /system/bin/Rild from your new rom and it worked perfectly.
I can make and receive calls on 2G without problem. I have not tried the APN but I'll try to short
thank you very much.
I have a TP2 which has been good as gold since I bought it about six months ago, but now trying to use GPS for the first time I cannot get a signal. Can anyone please assist?
TomTom 7 and Google Maps; Neither program is complaining that it cannot find GPS, it's just that GPS does not pick up any signal.
Under QuickGPS I've got everything ticked and agreed to! I've also manually updated it three times now.
Under "External GPS" settings I've tried COM4 and COM0 and baud rates 4800 and 9600. I'm now settled with COM4 and baud rate 4800 (with corresponding settings in TomTom) and I can confirm that the GPS device is certainly recognised, because if I change the settings or if I select a different GPS device in TomTom I get "No GPS device!", whereas with correct settings I get "Waiting for a valid GPS signal".
Likewise Google Maps sits for ever showing "Seeking GPS Satelites (0)...".
I've just come back from a day visiting friends in London. For half of the 45-minute journey there I had the phone sitting on the dashboard with TomTom open, and for the second half Google maps, and then the same again for the 45-minute journey home, and not once at any point did I pick up any satellite signal.
Can anyone please offer any suggestions?
Many thanks.
Could possibly be a bad GPS unit in your phone. There is an HTC GPS Tool available on the boards here that you can try and test with. I'll do a search for you in once sec.
One quick thing to double-check, in Settings | System | ABPS Settings > Make sure you've got the AGPS Service turned on.
ETA: Here's the thread where you can download the GPS Tool - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=360477
I'd be very grateful, thanks.
ABPS Settings? What's that?! I have no such setting under Settings/System! (I'm running WM 6.5 pro)
GPS is new to me, and while clearly a nice little piece of kit the HTC GPS tool doesn't give any instructions! However, I've set it to my COM and baud rate and hit "Open" and there's a lot of action; under the "Satelite" tab I see changing red satellite points (between one and four and I'm still indoors) so I'm presuming this indicates that my GPS is functioning?
Could my issue therefore be something to do with my non-existant ABPS/AGPS Settings?
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GPS is new to me, and while clearly a nice little piece of kit the HTC GPS tool doesn't give any instructions! However, I've set it to my COM and baud rate and hit "Open" and there's a lot of action; under the "Satelite" tab I see changing red satellite points (between one and four and I'm still indoors) so I'm presuming this indicates that my GPS is functioning?
Could my issue therefore be something to do with my non-existant ABPS/AGPS Settings?
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"aGPS" = Assisted GPS, it uses more than just the satellite signals to help pinpoint your location quicker. The TP2 is capable of aGPS, but it's disabled by default. You'll need an app such as "Advanced Config" (attached below) to access and activate that setting. Once you have it installed, just open the app, and you'll see a "GPS" heading in the list of options, under that is the aGPS switch.
Much appreciated, thanks. In fact I already have "Advanced Config" installed, and all GPS options already activated, including AGPS.
Could you be so kind as to let me know whether you think, from the description in my last post, that my GPS is working? And if so, might you have any idea why it's therefore not speaking to either TomTom or Google maps?
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Much appreciated, thanks. In fact I already have "Advanced Config" installed, and all GPS options already activated, including AGPS.
Could you be so kind as to let me know whether you think, from the description in my last post, that my GPS is working? And if so, might you have any idea why it's therefore not speaking to either TomTom or Google maps?
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Without being able to lay eyeballs on it, it does sound like the GPS tool did indicate that you could at least locate some satellites, but I can't say for sure if you're locking/triangulating any...
There is one more setting that I've read has helped on some odd occassions, it's worth a try if nothing else. In the same GPS settings area where you changed the port and baud rate, the last tab should be "Access". On that tab is only one check box, for "Manage GPS Automatically...", and it's probably checked by default for you. Even though it sounds backwards, go ahead and uncheck that box, and see if it makes any difference in your ability to acquire sats. It may not, but it doesn't hurt anything.
Also...just to be sure...on the "hardware" tab there, do you have the "GPS hardware port" set to "none", yes?
Your other option, of course, is to load a different radio.
have you tried running quick gps?
I have also had problems with my GPS since flashing a new ROM, a reset seems to have sorted it out.
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I have also had problems with my GPS since flashing a new ROM, a reset seems to have sorted it out.
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I presume you mean a full, cold reset? I've run several standard cleanups and warm resets, and yes, I've also run QuickGPS a number of times as well.
I was beginning to wonder myself whether it was to do with flashing the new ROM, although it was an official ROM (WM 6.5 Pro), Vodafone and Windows certified and downloaded through the Vodafone website, so it should have been thoroughly checked.
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I presume you mean a full, cold reset? I've run several standard cleanups and warm resets, and yes, I've also run QuickGPS a number of times as well.
I was beginning to wonder myself whether it was to do with flashing the new ROM, although it was an official ROM (WM 6.5 Pro), Vodafone and Windows certified and downloaded through the Vodafone website, so it should have been thoroughly checked.
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Yes, if you loaded a new official ROM, you most likely got a new radio with that ROM (offical ROMs include the radio, many aftermarket ones don't)...in that case Epoh is correct and you'll want to find out what radio was on your device with the previous ROM, and try flashing that same one (or one of the other available options) in place of whatever one the new ROM included.
Again, many thanks.
But I'm afraid you've lost me technically! I'm certainly PC literate and able to tweak and crack and play, but where my TP2 is concerned my knowledge is more limited. I'm afraid I would need instructions to guide me through the process you suggest. If anyone has the patience and kindness to provide some I'd be most grateful, otherwise it's a bit out of my "do it yourself" league.
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Again, many thanks.
But I'm afraid you've lost me technically! I'm certainly PC literate and able to tweak and crack and play, but where my TP2 is concerned my knowledge is more limited. I'm afraid I would need instructions to guide me through the process you suggest. If anyone has the patience and kindness to provide some I'd be most grateful, otherwise it's a bit out of my "do it yourself" league.
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Start > Settings > System > Device Info > Software Info
It will have your radio version there. I'm not sure which ROM you were using before, but you should be able to find what radio it was using. Then go to the ROM development forum and read about flashing your radio!
AidanBell said:
Again, many thanks.
But I'm afraid you've lost me technically! I'm certainly PC literate and able to tweak and crack and play, but where my TP2 is concerned my knowledge is more limited. I'm afraid I would need instructions to guide me through the process you suggest. If anyone has the patience and kindness to provide some I'd be most grateful, otherwise it's a bit out of my "do it yourself" league.
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Flashing a radio is very similar to flashing a (custom) ROM, it just doesn't wipe everything, and it only replaces the radio (actually the set of drivers for all the radios in the phone). Different radios can improve your reception on any of them (3G, Bluetooth, GPS, etc), but you may have to try a couple to find the one that works best for you.
A list of available radios, and links to detailed instructions, are in THIS thread
Many thanks for the help. OK, I think I'm on the case, but here's what's still confusing me: The thread you've sent me to explains how to determine your ROM by going to the start menu, settings, etc. However what I need to know is what the ROM WAS before I updated to my current one, no? If I understand this correctly I am trying to return to the old radio that I had before I updated the ROM, yes? In which case, how do I know which radio to choose?
If it saves time, I can tell you that I am in England, my unit is a Vodafone HTC TP2, purchased in August last year.
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Many thanks for the help. OK, I think I'm on the case, but here's what's still confusing me: The thread you've sent me to explains how to determine your ROM by going to the start menu, settings, etc. However what I need to know is what the ROM WAS before I updated to my current one, no? If I understand this correctly I am trying to return to the old radio that I had before I updated the ROM, yes? In which case, how do I know which radio to choose?
If it saves time, I can tell you that I am in England, my unit is a Vodafone HTC TP2, purchased in August last year.
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Correct, but if it uses the same radio then there is no need to flash a radio and you have a different problem, which is why I suggested checking to see if they use the same radio. If the ROMs use different radios, you can download the radio from your earlier ROM to see if it fixes GPS.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Rhodium/Shipped_Roms
I see! Cheers.
OK, my current ROM is 1.86.161.0 (67102) WWE, and radio 4.49.25.17 (09/25/09).
However ... since I have no idea what my ROM or radio were before I updated the ROM, how am I to know whether the radio is the same!?
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I see! Cheers.
OK, my current ROM is 1.86.161.0 (67102) WWE, and radio 4.49.25.17 (09/25/09).
However ... since I have no idea what my ROM or radio were before I updated the ROM, how am I to know whether the radio is the same!?
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that link has a list of known ROMs and the Radio they use.
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I see! Cheers.
OK, my current ROM is 1.86.161.0 (67102) WWE, and radio 4.49.25.17 (09/25/09).
However ... since I have no idea what my ROM or radio were before I updated the ROM, how am I to know whether the radio is the same!?
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On that list Burton linked for you, it shows that the originial shipped ROMs from Vodaphone (which I'm assuming is what was on yours previously) were version 1.14.161.6 (50207), with radio 3.44.25.27.
Hi,
I'm currently on radio version Radio_12.35d.60.140fU_26.08.03.07_M_Test running CoreDroid Desire HD V4.6.
As I'm using my phone for Geocaching, I'm not very happy with the GPS accuracy.
My /system/etc/gps.conf is set to NTP_SERVER=europe.pool.ntp.org.
I've tried the usual reset and download A-GPS using GPS Status, and I get a fix pretty quick.
When I go Geocaching my friend with an iPhone4 (!) has a much more accurate GPS. I miss my target with 10 m.
So my question is, are there any differences in the GPS accuracy in the different Radio versions?
BR,
C
crusher88 said:
Hi,
I'm currently on radio version Radio_12.35d.60.140fU_26.08.03.07_M_Test running CoreDroid Desire HD V4.6.
As I'm using my phone for Geocaching, I'm not very happy with the GPS accuracy.
My /system/etc/gps.conf is set to NTP_SERVER=europe.pool.ntp.org.
I've tried the usual reset and download A-GPS using GPS Status, and I get a fix pretty quick.
When I go Geocaching my friend with an iPhone4 (!) has a much more accurate GPS. I miss my target with 10 m.
So my question is, are there any differences in the GPS accuracy in the different Radio versions?
BR,
C
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I think the only way to answer this question is to suggest that you try different radios and see what works best for you.
The success or failure of the radio depends on so many factors.... where you live, carrier, rom, signal strengths, etc, etc..... and also on what you are looking for from the radio ie battery life, phone signal, gps signal, etc.
There is no definitive answer!
Some days ago I struggled with some GPS troubles too.
It took me quite a while to figure this out but it is well reproducible on my DHD (everything performed outside, for sure):
GPS from the radio 12.28e.60.140f_26.04.02.17_M2 from WWE 1.72 or the 12.35d.60.140fU_26.08.03.07_M_Test radio behave like this: When you start GPS status for the first time after boot the DHD starts to fix one satellite after another and then keep them ALL fixed. When you now quit GPS Status and restart it the DHD starts to fix satellites again but then lose some of them just to fix them again a second later or so, then loses some of them again and so on. Sometimes you then have just 3 or 4 satellites fixed. The only way for me to get rid of this strange behavior is to make a cold restart then GPS status is fine again for the first start, but after restarting GPS Status same again.
When I use the radio from the 1.32 WWE this does not appear after restarting GPS Status, it always fixes as much satellites as possible and KEEP them CONSTANTLY fixed (here in Austria regularly around 9). When I use my DHD for car nav I don’t care too much about it but I guess this might play a rule when you use it for geocaching (and need more accuracy, which is provided by more fixed satellites, if I am not wrong) … hope that helps a little bit.
This is the Desire HD's only flaw, the GPS. Well for me anyway.
You can get it working to a point. And i think all the guys cooking ROMs have got this right now.
For example i am running CM7 RC4 and i can now always get a lock but it bounces a lot. What i mean is, take google maps for example, the GPS locks, and almost never loses the lock now, but the circle that fixes your position on the map is constantly on you then way off you all the time. So it knows that you are 'somewhere there'. which for a GPS in an urban area 'somewhere there', anything from 10m - 500m, is not good enough.
In reality it is not very good at all and is very disappoint as the big screen makes using maps a big plus
I have given up on trying to get this to work now. My Desire contract is up for renewal soon so i will get another phone and at this point an HTC phone may not be my next phone. HTC has mostly great build quality but they don't seem to care if the phone features work or not. Which is sad because if they addresses this issure, and its been the same for a good while now, they would be the the best phone for sure.
Personally i think that they could do better with the camera and GPS, the hardware.
Oh and i have also tried many different radios.