How do I downgrade HBoot - Wildfire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi all, i know im prob repeating a few other posts but im having trouble finding some clarity, I got a wildfire yesterday and it came with 2.2.1 on it which means hboot 1.02.0002, I really really want to get rid of sense and stick on cyanogen mod, is there anyway this can be done, I've heard I can turn the S-off and downgrade but I have no idea how to do that without an XTC clip, is there a software solution yet, or do i have to take it to a phone shop and get them to do it for me, can someone enlighten me to whats going on with the scene atm and if its even possible yet.

Take it to a phone shop and get it S-OFF'ed using an XTC Clip, No software only solution yet.

yeah, and stop being lazy and scroll through the forum first next time, it's not so hard!

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[Q] Desire rooting problems - Anyone had a similar experience??

Hi guys and gals
My mate got his HTC Desire about 4 days ago, he wasted no time in trying to root it but seems to have fu**ed up. According to his own words:
"I did the unlocker method (made the gold card), got into the boot loader but upon loading the custom and reboot I lost the screen. phone still works but no display, I am still trying various recoveries"
Has anyone had (or know of) any similar experiences? I been thinking about rooting my Desire but now I'm worried...not had mine long either.
Thanks!
DJ Anon said:
Hi guys and gals
My mate got his HTC Desire about 4 days ago, he wasted no time in trying to root it but seems to have fu**ed up. According to his own words:
"I did the unlocker method (made the gold card), got into the boot loader but upon loading the custom and reboot I lost the screen. phone still works but no display, I am still trying various recoveries"
Has anyone had (or know of) any similar experiences? I been thinking about rooting my Desire but now I'm worried...not had mine long either.
Thanks!
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sounds like your mate has an slcd screen and tried to downgrade his device too an incompatible hboot (f it doesn't mention amoled on the box you have slcd). this is completely recoverable. although a little tricky - see:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=748498&highlight=brick
Cheers!
Thanks debully,
Will pass on your comments to my mate.
I must say tho, his experience has sort of freaked me out a bit. I am looking to root my Desire (I wanna be able to connect with a Wii controller) but am feeling a bit aprehensive now...
Go for it man.. I just bought my telus desire last tuesday and by the end of thursday I had rooted and flashed LeeDroid to it.. and havent looked back since. While some of the instructions may seem complicated, once you actually do it, it's really quite easy. I originally used unrevoked without the SLCD support, and it still works, just shows a black screen when doing the updates. Earlier today I re-flashed unrevoked with the SLCD support and switched to Cyanogen 6 RC2, and it was a walk in the park! The advanages of the custom ROMS (and 2.2) far outweigh the chance of a scare. And if you still feel aprahensible about it, just check out the howardforums.com telus HSPA forums, there is a post with a REALLY easy walkthrough, and several success stories for our specific model of the phone.
Thanks mikeandjaimie
i'm gonna go ahead and be a lazy bas**rd, could you please provide a link to this forum u speak of?
Thanks!
try to avoid over the air upgrades to froyo as this throws a nasty spanner in the works should you wish to get root afterwards. Lots of screen presses on a blank screen - not for the faint hearted. Stick with 2.1 and its quite a bit easier to root, then upgrade to froyo via a custom rom.
I only know this because I did an OTA update within minutes of getting out of the box, only to find that this has practically ruined my chances of rooting my device, for the time being at least, until some bright bugger finds a reasonable way round it.
debully said:
try to avoid over the air upgrades to froyo as this throws a nasty spanner in the works should you wish to get root afterwards. Lots of screen presses on a blank screen - not for the faint hearted. Stick with 2.1 and its quite a bit easier to root, then upgrade to froyo via a custom rom.
I only know this because I did an OTA update within minutes of getting out of the box, only to find that this has practically ruined my chances of rooting my device, for the time being at least, until some bright bugger finds a reasonable way round it.
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I hear you mate. I updated my Android OS to Froyo 2.2 almost on the same day I got the phone. However there are some guides on how to downgrade your Android OS to 0.83 or lower before rooting it so I'll be giving it a try shortly.
Please let me know how you get on and save the links to the guides you use - if you don't mind.
Good luck
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Does US Cellular Desire have Root

I know it was only released yesterday, but I know nothing about the current Desire models. I come from the realm of CDMA Hero's and am moving to the Samsung Epic. My brother just picked up a desire and wants to root it.
Is the current Desire a GSM or CDMA phone?
And has anyone who has gotten the new USC Desire, have you tried the current root method to see if it works. I have doubts that it will.
I am going to assume after looking through this forum a little bit that the current model being developed for here is GSM.
The US Cellular Desire is the first CDMA phone to be called "HTC Desire". Tread carefully. But please also report any positive/negative results so that others can learn from your win/fail.
cmstlist said:
The US Cellular Desire is the first CDMA phone to be called "HTC Desire". Tread carefully. But please also report any positive/negative results so that others can learn from your win/fail.
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Thankfully I am pretty Android savvy. I just wasn't sure if it was CDMA or GSM - No radio updates for this phone .
If the current root method does not work I will attempt the ones for other devices running 2.1 and might even try the new EVO/Epic root for 2.2.
I'll get this thing rooted if I have to find my own.
Kcarpenter said:
Thankfully I am pretty Android savvy. I just wasn't sure if it was CDMA or GSM - No radio updates for this phone .
If the current root method does not work I will attempt the ones for other devices running 2.1 and might even try the new EVO/Epic root for 2.2.
I'll get this thing rooted if I have to find my own.
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I can't wait to get my US Cellular Desire and I'm really hoping for root. Let us know if you have any luck.
So what are the actual chances that it will work on the uscc desire? I got mine so I guess ill just have to try it tonight.
The us desire has a bootloader 0.98.xxxx you will have to downgrade to a different hboot plus I'm pretty sure all the roms only support a gsm radio.
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The us desire has a bootloader 0.98.xxxx you will have to downgrade to a different hboot plus I'm pretty sure all the roms only support a gsm radio.
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Again, tread with caution... if a different HBOOT bricks the phone... there's not much recourse!
From what I have read/observed, the USCC Desire is basically the same phone as the Nexus One. I would like to know what is different about this thing that would prevent me from rooting and/or upgrading to 2.2.
Anyone have any advice? I can't wait to upgrade this piece.
CreepingDeath said:
From what I have read/observed, the USCC Desire is basically the same phone as the Nexus One. I would like to know what is different about this thing that would prevent me from rooting and/or upgrading to 2.2.
Anyone have any advice? I can't wait to upgrade this piece.
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Well, Desire is CDMA. Nexus one is not. completely different cellular radio HARDWARE. and that pesky slcd is also a problem.
Gonna have better luck adapting a cdma android root. (incredible, evo, etc..) at least they use the same radio technology.
i thought the incredible was supposed to get the slcd also...... that would help alot.
I know this doesn't provide any technical information, but just as an FYI I did ask HTC what their policy on rooting is. They said:
"Of course the Desire is your phone. If you would like to root the phone or install 3rd party software to it, you are more than welcome to. It's just that with any 3rd party software, HTC did not create it so we do not have information on how it works therefore, we can not support it. As far as voiding any warranties, I do not have that information. You may contact our Warranty Deparment at 1-800-229-1235 (8:30 AM - 5 PM EST M-F). They will be able to verify that information with you. HTC has repaired some phones that had the incorrect ROM on them. There may have been a fee for this, I am not certain."
I hadn't gotten around to calling about the warranty. I had read elsewhere that as long as the damage wasn't a result of the rooting that they would still repair a rooted phone under warranty, but I don't know if there's any truth to that.
Anyway, I don't know if this helps alleviate any concerns about experimenting with it or not. I had gotten as far as making a gold card for it yesterday, but I'm kind of afraid to go any further until I can get some more information on this specific phone. I feel like there may be a chance with this method since it takes information from your actual device. Anyone have any thoughts on that?
psychache said:
I know this doesn't provide any technical information, but just as an FYI I did ask HTC what their policy on rooting is. They said:
"Of course the Desire is your phone. If you would like to root the phone or install 3rd party software to it, you are more than welcome to. It's just that with any 3rd party software, HTC did not create it so we do not have information on how it works therefore, we can not support it. As far as voiding any warranties, I do not have that information. You may contact our Warranty Deparment at 1-800-229-1235 (8:30 AM - 5 PM EST M-F). They will be able to verify that information with you. HTC has repaired some phones that had the incorrect ROM on them. There may have been a fee for this, I am not certain."
I hadn't gotten around to calling about the warranty. I had read elsewhere that as long as the damage wasn't a result of the rooting that they would still repair a rooted phone under warranty, but I don't know if there's any truth to that.
Anyway, I don't know if this helps alleviate any concerns about experimenting with it or not. I had gotten as far as making a gold card for it yesterday, but I'm kind of afraid to go any further until I can get some more information on this specific phone. I feel like there may be a chance with this method since it takes information from your actual device. Anyone have any thoughts on that?
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Once you make a gold card, which rooting technique are you going try? Unrevoked is the simplest overall but I think HBOOT 0.98 fixed the exploit that Unrevoked uses.
I tried unrevoked the other day and it said that it was unsupported. I don't know that I'll go as far as trying to root at this point. I was kind of hoping that someone else would try it first, ha . . . Initially I was doing the gold card just to see if I could at least unbrand it so I could install the OTA update. But then I run into the original issue of whether or not it supports CDMA and/or SLCD. Is there any way to tell aside from actually attempting to flash it? Maybe it would be safer to try one of the methods for the Incredible? Not sure what version of HBOOT that has on it. Honestly, I'm pretty far from being any kind of expert on this. So far I've only had experience with rooting the Moto Droid and that was pretty much cake since the phone is so old at this point.
psychache said:
I tried unrevoked the other day and it said that it was unsupported. I don't know that I'll go as far as trying to root at this point. I was kind of hoping that someone else would try it first, ha . . . Initially I was doing the gold card just to see if I could at least unbrand it so I could install the OTA update. But then I run into the original issue of whether or not it supports CDMA and/or SLCD. Is there any way to tell aside from actually attempting to flash it? Maybe it would be safer to try one of the methods for the Incredible? Not sure what version of HBOOT that has on it. Honestly, I'm pretty far from being any kind of expert on this. So far I've only had experience with rooting the Moto Droid and that was pretty much cake since the phone is so old at this point.
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There's only one set of RUU that support CDMA at this point. Pretty much any other attempt will brick your desire. You could try one of those RUU's and see if it downgrades where you could root then.
Yeah, I think I'm going to wait until some sort of tested method is worked out. I'm not at any kind of skill level to be figuring this stuff out on my own. Overall I'm pretty pleased with how the phone worked right out of the box. My only major complaint is the lack of internal storage for apps and the fact that you can't remove any of the preinstalled crap. This is the only reason I was really even looking into rooting or unlocking at this point. I just hope that the fact that the EVO and Incredible got their updates means that one can't be far off for the Desire.
psychache - I feel ya there. I got mine and I love it. However, was kinda skiddish on testing on this new unit. Whether or not the insurance would cover it if I bricked it. Even then, would still be another $100 deductible.
I am willing to try something. I already tried the Universal Androot to no avail... no brick or anything, it just didnt take.
Well, if anyone else is up to the challenge you could always call the number I posted above to get a definite answer on whether you would still have coverage if you did brick. I had actually had several replies back and forth with them before I asked specifically about rooting and was very impressed by how responsive and open-minded they were. I'd say of any of the manufacturers they're probably the most likely to be "cool" about it. And you're right, primerorico, worst case scenario is you could do an insurance claim and pay the $100 (you know, because you "lost" it). I know that's not cheap but it's a heck of a lot less than paying the full retail for a new one. Just food for thought for anyone who actually knows what they're doing . . . (unlike myself)
Someone has made some progress in rooting. Not sure if he needs some help but here is the thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7917553
heavymetalmage said:
Someone has made some progress in rooting. Not sure if he needs some help but here is the thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7917553
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Thanks for the link. I'll definitely keep an eye on it.

Noob here with a few questions.

Hello everyone I have been surfing these forums for some time and finally want to root but I have some questions and have searched so please I will just take a minute of your time.
First I have a stock evo with all the current up dates. I want to root by unrevoked3 and maybe do the forever part also, but the outer cover part on my camera is cracked and my camera doesn't look good anymore and I am also getting a good amount of dust under my screen so I am thinking about gettin my evo replaced.
So here are my questions.
Would I be able to get my evo replaced with out going through insurance because my screen has dust under it, but since my camera is cracked I feel like they would say it is damaged and make me pay.
Would I be able to unroot my phone so I can get it replaced even if I do the forever part. I feel like the answer is yes but I haven't been able to find a 100% clear answer.
And finally I want the hulu app on my phone but I am not 100% sure I need to forever my phone for that app.
Thank you all for your time.
Unrevoked forever is included in unrevoked 3.21. With that said yes you can unroot you will just need to flash the s-on tool from the unrevoked web site prior to unrooting. Now as far as unrooting im not sure if there are any changes to the unroot process since you have the 3.29 ota update. I know for sure it can be unrooted but unfortunatly the pc36img zip that dj re3z posted if for 3.26.
Edit: from what I have read over at android central on the unroot sticky there is a link to grag the latest pc36img that should work with the ota.
I thank you for your reply but I am a little confused on what you are talkig about.
I know that you can unroot from stuff that is provided on unrevoked's website and now I realise my question wasn't very clear but I mean that if I root my phone it breaks the warranty but if I unroot it is there a way sprint can tell that it was rooted and tell me I don't have a warranty and have to pay. Incase I ever want to get a warranty replacement. (If I even can regarding my first question)
To answer your question yes if you unroot Sprint will have no idea you were rooted prior. But what I was trying to let you know is that from what I've read the new ota (3.29) can not be unrooted as of yet that I know of.
From what u r describing i can almost garantee u they will refuse to replace it for free. I sugguest u avoid all that nonsense and just report the phone lost and pay the 100 to have it replace.
Sent from my HTC-Evo Using Tapatalk
@warpkgb
okay now I under stand thank you. Now I will not be rooting, I did not know you couldn't unroot the newest ota.
@ eusthebest
I have been out of town for a while now but am heading back soon and once I do k will go to the sprint store up there cause here is a very helpful guy that works there and I will try and talk him into replacing my evo if he wont then I'll do what you said.
Thanks guys
I really wouldnt bother going in there, if they see the damage and think you did it they will note it in the system. This will look very funny to them when a day or two from now you call and say you "lost" the phone. Just my 2 cents

[Q] Has anyone managed to root the Wildfire with the new H-Boot yet?

title says it all really but just wondering if anyone has found a software solution yet for rooting the HTC wildfire after you've updated to 2.2.1?
Its a good thing to look around in this forum then you would learn that nobody found a solution for to do it with software. The only thing that works is with a piece of hardware.....With all the new models i think the people who can do it are not so interested in the wildfire anymore. So maybe it stay this way........
andyhubbert said:
title says it all really but just wondering if anyone has found a software solution yet for rooting the HTC wildfire after you've updated to 2.2.1?
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About the 150th time I saw this kind of thread.
if u are asking for a free software solution, the answer is noo.
i heard that xtc clip is a hardware which is to be purchased to root htc android phone. yes xtc clip roots wildfire with 2.2 successfully.

[Q] how to root htc desire

Hello People
I have a HTC Desire ( A8183) & want to root, I dont have the confidence in doing this myself as i dont want to brick my relatively new toy yet.
I live in Perth WA & looking for a techie that can do this for me. i have tried 2 different telephone repair shops & neither could do it, both had the phone for 3 days each. If they cant do it i am not confident at having a go myself.
Does anyone know of a techie that can do this for a reasonable cost.
Thanks in antisipation
Search for unrevoked.com and do of yourself. It's supereasy and has video tutorials. Check also on the stickies
[Sig] dId you know? If you Insert a Coin on your Desire, then it levels up to HD, Z or S :[/Sig] !!!! 10 post limit for off topic NOW!!!!
Read then read again, then read again. Unfortunately in depth information is a bit fragmentated, but general "how to's" are available.
How do you know "techie" won't mess it up? Best to do it yourself, but do your research beforehand. Everyone here was in the same boat as you, but they done it. As long as you are careful, don't rush things, and follow guides chances of messing it up are very slim.
Good place to start.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696189
just use the Noob Proofed Guide, you cant do anything wrong. I was in the same situation like you. I didnt want to brick my phone, but I rooted yesterday evening for the first time without any problems. If you're not confident just take enough time. Plan an evening that you spend with your Desire. Watch all the videos and dont be afraid of all the codes and stuff! It looks much more complex than it realy is!
good luck!
ySchaub said:
just use the Noob Proofed Guide, you cant do anything wrong. I was in the same situation like you. I didnt want to brick my phone, but I rooted yesterday evening for the first time without any problems. If you're not confident just take enough time. Plan an evening that you spend with your Desire. Watch all the videos and dont be afraid of all the codes and stuff! It looks much more complex than it realy is!
good luck!
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Am i the only one who doesn't like video how to's, but like step by step instructions with or without pics? It's just so much easier to go back a few steps to recheck that you done it right.
I like it if I can do a step while someones making the exact same thing and I can see it live. in tutorials often things arent mentioned 100% clear or arent the same.
After Rooting my Desire only (no Rom install) still i will get 2.3 OTA update ????
2020shyboy said:
After Rooting my Desire only (no Rom install) still i will get 2.3 OTA update ????
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You may get, but if you update you will unroot
[Sig] dId you know? If you Insert a Coin on your Desire, then it levels up to HD, Z or S :[/Sig] !!!! 10 post limit for off topic NOW!!!!
2020shyboy said:
After Rooting my Desire only (no Rom install) still i will get 2.3 OTA update ????
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And anyway, there are loads of aosp 2.3 roms to choose from that will be better than OTA!
gilberc said:
Hello People
i have tried 2 different telephone repair shops & neither could do it, both had the phone for 3 days each.
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don't pay someone to do it, it's REALLY easy
i used this with the Unrevoked method and the Clockworkmod Recovery
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=HTC_Desire_(GSM):_Full_Update_Guide
otherwise, i'm in Sydney, i'll do it for you
i just used the Noob Proofed Guide excellent step by step.
Also turkey has a very good tutorial you could check out
Just press the search button
[Sig] dId you know? If you Insert a Coin on your Desire, then it levels up to HD, Z or S :[/Sig] !!!! 10 post limit for off topic NOW!!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696189
this thread will get u to what u want.
remember that chances to suceed are 99%
I recommed Unrevoked, it's super-easy.. just open it, plug the phone. and wait the process to finish eheh quite easy indeed
gilberc said:
Hello People
I have a HTC Desire ( A8183) & want to root, I dont have the confidence in doing this myself as i dont want to brick my relatively new toy yet.
I live in Perth WA & looking for a techie that can do this for me. i have tried 2 different telephone repair shops & neither could do it, both had the phone for 3 days each. If they cant do it i am not confident at having a go myself.
Does anyone know of a techie that can do this for a reasonable cost.
Thanks in antisipation
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Thanks to everybody who answered my call for help!
HTC Desire rooted.
THANKS AGAIN

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