is developers still working root on htc wildfire ???
Probably yes. However, there is nothing concrete which proves or disproves it.
If you follow unrevoked's twitter feed you would know that they are (on and off)
there is a temp root at the moment, but does not lead to a permanent root.
Many inquiries have been made to HTC concerning the issue of the permissions of the HBOOT which are required in order to obtain root. they do not specify which devices they are going to update or when, but there's still hope for the future eh?
The only way to root at this current time is via the XTC clip, just ask if you want details to root via XTC clip, done it myself and it's not overly complicated.
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Hi,
i'm newbie but first of course I read wiki, guides and others about rooting etc.
I've already applied OTA update on my Desire Z. My question is: am I able to root my device and get new non original ROM's and S-OFF? I can't find a straight answer here about it.
second answer is that i run bootloader on my device and choose "simlock" and push power button and somthing was done, then it prompt for restart which i made. What did I do?
Thanks,
Mat
I assume that 'simlock' option would re-do the network lock if you had used a code to unlock,.... I ASSUME.
Use that wiki you have already gone through to find out how to root etc with gfree. It's all in there. Looks pretty straight forward,.... not that I have had time to do it myself just yet.
As far as I know, it's currently impossible to root the new OTA. You'll have to downgrade to the pre-OTA to get root and you can find the guide here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905261
Of course, my info might be outdated as I'm a G2 owner and not a DZ owner
EDIT: IT IS POSSIBLE!!!! Just ran across this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=886023
omarsalmin said:
As far as I know, it's currently impossible to root the new OTA. You'll have to downgrade to the pre-OTA to get root and you can find the guide here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905261
Of course, my info might be outdated as I'm a G2 owner and not a DZ owner
EDIT: IT IS POSSIBLE!!!! Just ran across this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=886023
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Appologies, as Omar said, Wiki is not up to date. Sorry for leading you up a blind ally. I might have a go at updating the wiki later if someone doesn't beat me to it, and if I can grow bigger balls.... don't want to be shouted at if I do something wrong!!
There's a guide on how to get temp root on 1.72 on the dev forum. You can turn that into perm root using the same commands as with the perm root part of rage.
Sent from my HTC Desire Z
I have had a few pm's from users asking for help rooting their phone.
The reason your device may not bee rooted is because your phone is not S-off
Gingerbreak only works for S-off devices and as mine is S-off it allows me to root my phone.
So remember people if you want root at the moment you need S-off and the only way is by using the xtc clip.
Hi imlgl, and thanks for these news.
I am new with Android Stuff, and I am just wonder about "S". I own a Wildfire S.
But what does it mean to have an "S" phone, and what are the advantage and disadvantage to make one S-off?
thanks
Hi.
The S just stands for the new version of the Wildfire. The same as the Incredible S and Desire S.
S-off allows you to have full root accesss to the phone with no limitations. And it also allows rooting as the new phones have the encrypted bootloader. There are many advantages to S-off some of which I don't even know.
hi,
thanks, and do you think it will never work without this xtc clip?
bye
Andy
Not for the time being. There could be an exploit which allows no hardware, or HTC could unlock the bootloader for the Wildfire S
Folks,
Just wondered if Revolutionary is working on a Wildfire S (My Son's phone) solution for S-OFF'ing ?
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Folks,
Just wondered if Revolutionary is working on a Wildfire S (My Son's phone) solution for S-OFF'ing ?
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Had you used the search function, you wouldn't be wondering anymore...
Hi,
I have no practise yet with custom ROMs but anyway I think the following points (my goal: increase the internal memory) could interest most of Wildfire S users as this one is extremly small (118 MB ONLY!)...
Installation of a custom ROM for Data2SD is really useful...
May I summarize some facts first?...
Normally rooting of HTC works like that: unbranding (if necessary) by CID and GoldCard (whatever GC is) and clean Firmware, then rooting by “reflash_package.exe" (unrevoked3) and then inserting custom ROMs by ClockworkModeRecovery.
The device can stay in s-on mode here. (s. http://einsteinno1.de/htc-wildfire-custom-rom-tutorial/#custom)
Remark: There seems to be still another easier method to root a mobile phone instead of unrevoked3:
Team C-Skills: installation of a wrapper App around Gingerbreak exploit: 'Gingerbreak.apk'.
(s. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1044765)
The problem e.g. with HTC's Gingerbread V.2.3 of S-models now is that the boot loader is locked (encrypted?). So here the boot loader cannot be modified by unrevoked3 (or Gingerbreak.apk) anymore. Now there must be done s.th. that the device does not boot with this boot loader anymore. This can only be done by setting it to s-off (disabling the HTC's security mechanisms), right?
And this can only be done by the xtc clip (~100€)! It is plugged to the SIM card contacts... What does it do in detail here? Does anybody know?...
However, after using it the device 'suddenly' is s-off and rooted.
After having used xtc clip custom ROMs can be installed like usual.
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Now I read that HTC announced to offer a 'boot loader unlock' software for all those models with encr. bl soon. So then xtc clip is not needed anymore, right?
(hope 'soon' does not mean another half year of waiting...)
However, if that lasts too long, is there anybody in south-west Germany who would lend me his xtc clip then?...
Before doing A2SD+ (or even much better Data2SD) it is necessary to create a second SD card partition with e.g. 'ROM Manager'.
But is there already a reliable Data2SD custom ROM for Wildfire S? Does anybody has practise with 'Everything Data2SD.zip' already?...
And then, as the whole processing now always passes the device's SD card interface: Did anybody notice any disadvantages with this mobile during Data2SD usage? (lower speed, bad stability, etc.)
Please correct me now if there is anything wrong in my description!
Now I have some further little questions:
1.) Can I rollback A2SD+ or Data2SD?
2.) Can I rollback S-off to S-on ? (getting back guarantee) Remark: Gingerbreak seems to offer an option for this
3.) What happens at an OTA upgrade? S-off or Data2SD keeps as it is?...
4.) Is there a way to do S-off just once (no temproot)?
5.) Where can I find a collection of custom ROMs?
5b) Can I add Bluetooth profiles by custom ROMs?
6.) Can I copy system apps from a rooted mobile (to run on a simular model)
I know, this is a lot. Hope that does not overload anybody... ;-)
Thank you for all your comments to it!
Many greetings.
Yes you need a second partition which you can make in Rom manager to use the app2sd function.
At the moment there is zero roms available for the Wildfire S.
When I used the app2sd function on my original Wildfire I had no changes in stability etc. Just that when I restart the phone I had to wait a few minutes for the apps to be available
Now for you other questions:
1) I wouldn't know. I assume you can
2) No. You cannot make S-off back to S-on but I doubt anyone would check if you needed to send it off. And if they did just say it was S-off when it was bought and the warranty guidelines say nothing about it being voided if it was S-off
3) S-off Will stay and root etc will stay as the bootloader and security flag is unlocked.
4) No Need as S-off is permanent.
5) In this forum when they are made
5b) Wouldn't know until roms become available.
6) I think you can but it would depend if they would work and are compatible with the rom.
I hope I have helped you a bit
thank you very much for answering!!
There are just some points left now...
1.) is all of it correct what I wrote/summarized in the beginning (before the line) of my last message?
2.) What do you say to the mentioned second rooting method of Team C-skill instead of unrevoked3? Does it really work as well?...
3.) Is it correct that xtc clip is not necessary if bootloader is unlocked?
3b) Do you think from what you have heard of HTC and the past activities of them in general that HTC will release this announced software (soon)?...
4.) What does xtc clip do in detail?
5.) Do you know about the progress of custom ROM development? And which of them are currently under development?
6.) I have read that bootloader of model Wildfire (without S) is encrypted as well. So how is it possible that there are already easy solutions to root it (without xtc clip)?
7.) My question 5b was ment generally: is it generally possible to add Bluetooth profiles by custom ROMs?
8.) Have you heard that HTC intends to release a Wildfire S+ version with increased internal memory? Could we expect it maybe?...
Thank you so much again. Hope youknow about the answer to my further questions...
Best wishes
1) Yes it is
2) There is no other method. I used gingerbreak to root mine. Took about 2 mins maximum. Unrevoked is not needed or the other method you mentioned. Also AlphareX is now in public beta so you could make your S-off by using that software but you need to be running Linux.
3)Yes if your phone is already S-off the clip is not needed
3b) I expect it will be shortly after the sensation release as they are making software to unlock the bootloader
4) It unlocks the bootloader by turning off the security flag allowing you to have full control over the phone.
5) I don't know of any progress, as its a new phone not many devs will have had a chance to get it.
6)This is because the bootloader is lower. 2.1 was able to be rooted using unrevoked but if you updated OTA to 2.2 the bootloader became encrypted and you would need the xtc clip to root it.
7)I wouldn't know for sure unless I had access to custom roms.
8)No I have never heard of a Wildfire S+ I don't think there will be one.
Hallo,
so these are my final responses to you:
1.) Where can we get Data2SD custom ROMs? There is no extra place at XDA-developers...
1b) I suppose that a custom ROM can be - dependant from its function - dependant just from the Android version, even phone model specific or completely independant from both, right?
How is it with Data2SD?... (s. brutzelstube.de/2011/data2sd-installieren-die-losung-aller-speicherprobleme: no dependancy is specified!)
2.) To 2, repeated again to make it really clear: you can use either Gingerbreak (Win), AlphareX (Linux) or unrevoked3 (Win) up to HTC's Android 2.1. for rooting. There is no difference in result between them... For >= Vers. 2.2: if boot loader is unlocked you just cannot use unrevoked3, but AlphareX and Gingerbreak. If boot loader is locked here you can only us xtc clip instead. Correct?
3.) To 3: you misunderstood my question. I didn't talk about S-off but about locked boot loader. I supposed that xtc clip is necessary ONLY if the boot loader is locked. Otherwise rooting can also be done with S-on. Correct?
4.) To 4: that is what I knew already. No, I was just asking myself HOW xtc clip can unlock a boot loader. It seems to be plugged to the SIM contacts for that... If you know more about the meachnism it would be fine but this question is not so important anyway. Just interest.
5.) To 5: Means that it will last about half a year until Data2SD custom ROM will be available (for Gingerbread or Wildfire S)? I just would like to have an idea...
On the other hand aren't there already plenty of Data2SD custom ROMs as those seem to be independant from Android version or phone model (s. 1b)!?...
6.) To 7: so there really never was any custom ROM adding a Bluetooth profile yet??...
Sorry, that I still did not come to an end asking you... ;-)
Hope, this is the last time now.
Anyway I now decided to wait until the release of Sony-Ericsson Xperia Mini as it is available in July already. This model is even more compact and internal storage shall be 320 MB. So Data2SD might not be necessary here. But if I like this one as well, I will see...
Many greetings to you.
Reminder
Hallo community, hallo Imlgl,
is there really nobody being able to answer my last questions below?...
Would be really very nice.
Thank you so much!
Sorry for asking this but I come from Desire HD and things seem more straight forward there in regards to root and custom roms.
I see that WFS is rootable but then S-OFF has not been broken yet. What's the difference with XTC-Clip then?
From what I understood, the only way to root WFS is XTC-CLIP which allows you to have root access, install custom ROM and recovery but it will not allow you to install radio and kernel? Please correct me if I'm wrong.
My main requirement is to be able to install apps on sd and use apps like titanium backup to freeze/remove bloatware. What do I need for this?
I see that I can upgrade to latest 2.3.5 since it's not available for my region. If I do so, will it still be rootable or I will lose this and then need to downgrade like with DHD?
Again I apologise for asking all these but you see I follow a complete forum on DesireHD and I don't have time reading here as well. I want to complete this as fast as possible for my wife.
EDIT: Oh now I see, XTC-Clip is hardware. So apart from using this, WFS is non-rootable unless S-Off is achieved?
andreasy said:
Sorry for asking this but I come from Desire HD and things seem more straight forward there in regards to root and custom roms.
I see that WFS is rootable but then S-OFF has not been broken yet. What's the difference with XTC-Clip then?
From what I understood, the only way to root WFS is XTC-CLIP which allows you to have root access, install custom ROM and recovery but it will not allow you to install radio and kernel? Please correct me if I'm wrong.
My main requirement is to be able to install apps on sd and use apps like titanium backup to freeze/remove bloatware. What do I need for this?
I see that I can upgrade to latest 2.3.5 since it's not available for my region. If I do so, will it still be rootable or I will lose this and then need to downgrade like with DHD?
Again I apologise for asking all these but you see I follow a complete forum on DesireHD and I don't have time reading here as well. I want to complete this as fast as possible for my wife.
EDIT: Oh now I see, XTC-Clip is hardware. So apart from using this, WFS is non-rootable unless S-Off is achieved?
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If you make your phone s-off with the XTC clip you can root your phone or flash anything you want..
You have to be s-off to remove bloatware by HTC.
You can upgrade to 2.3.5 and it will still be rootable if you s-off it..
Thanks. However, I'll need to buy that clip which I don't intend to right now so for me, it's not rootable until S-OFF is managed. Correct?
But there's a temproot http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1296916 here..
You can find a shop near you that has the clip and unlock it.
I previously owned an HTC One M8 which I rooted using the weaksauce/firewater method. I recently banged up the phone and bought a Samsung Galaxy G5 which I also rooted (took forever) but I didn't like it so I bought and just received a new (used) Verizon HTC One M8 (HTC6525LVW) running Android 5.0.1 which I would like to root.
I've googled, checked the forums and have found a ton of information so I'm looking for some very high level guidance. I'm up for just about anything including downgrading my version of Android but I'm not sure of the best move. I'm only interested in root. Any other benefits are fine but my goal is to get root access so I can run my ad blocker, titanium backup etc.
I don't need any sort of step by step instructions just an indicator of the best method and I'll do all the rest. Thank you for the help!
Verizon version doesn't allow unlocking the bootloader via HTCDev.com. So I think kingroot is your only choice. You can probably find more info on the VZN M8 forum sections.
Although it costs money, you might also consider going S-off with Sunshine, which also unlocks the bootloader. Then you can go back and root the usual way with TWRP. You still need Kingroot to get Sunshine working, though.
jshamlet said:
Although it costs money, you might also consider going S-off with Sunshine, which also unlocks the bootloader. Then you can go back and root the usual way with TWRP. You still need Kingroot to get Sunshine working, though.
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I can't remember if kingroot is temp or perm root (or if its both, whether both work on the M8). If its perm root, then the need to spend money on sunshine s-off is somewhat wasted money. If temp, then you're right that temp root by kingroot, then sunshine s-off, unlock bootloader and SuperSU to root, is the way to go. As temp root will likely not fulfill the needs of the OP (reason they want root).
redpoint73 said:
I can't remember if kingroot is temp or perm root (or if its both, whether both work on the M8). If its perm root, then the need to spend money on sunshine s-off is somewhat wasted money. If temp, then you're right that temp root by kingroot, then sunshine s-off, unlock bootloader and SuperSU to root, is the way to go. As temp root will likely not fulfill the needs of the OP (reason they want root).
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Hi, redpoint73...
When I tried Kingroot myself around a year ago on my M8, it most definitely was temporary, and left my bootloader with the SOFTWARE MODIFIED flag set and no root! This concerned me at the time, because the Marshmallow OTA was waiting in the wings, and I suspected that this might interfere with the OTA.
It all got sorted out in the end, thanks to @ckpv5 and his seemingly massive collection of Nandroid backups, whereby I was later able to restore back to unmodified stock Lollipop before Marshmallow rolled out.
I should have known better really than to look for easy shortcuts for rooting.
Anyhow, I ended up rooting it the old fashioned way, via fastboot and HTCdev.com...
...which I appreciate isn't an option for the OP.
I subseqently remember reading that Kingroot was only useful on the M8 when running Sunshine to gain S-OFF ('cos Sunshine required temp root).
Although eventually I S-OFF'ed myself later (I was going to change my CID, but in the end I never bothered), I still keep an eye on the Sunshine thread, and I understand that Sunshine now temp roots for you, effectively doing away with the need for Kingroot.
Anyway, just some thoughts...
Rgrds,
Ged.
Sent from my HTC One_M8 using XDA Labs
GedBlake said:
When I tried Kingroot myself around a year ago on my M8, it most definitely was temporary, and left my bootloader with the SOFTWARE MODIFIED flag set and no root!
Anyhow, I ended up rooting it the old fashioned way, via fastboot and HTCdev.com...
...which I appreciate isn't an option for the OP.
I subseqently remember reading that Kingroot was only useful on the M8 when running Sunshine to gain S-OFF ('cos Sunshine required temp root).
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Thanks. Good info, all around (didn't want to quote the whole post, and clutter up the thread).
A lot of this, I was aware of; but I usually leave it up to the user to research and learn on their own (although certainly nice of you to post the info).
I have seen a number of users that had the same issue (kingroot didn't actually root, but tripped the SOFTWARE MODIFIED flag in bootloader). But it did seem to work for others, for no apparent rhyme or reason that I saw.
GedBlake said:
I still keep an eye on the Sunshine thread, and I understand that Sunshine now temp roots for you, effectively doing away with the need for Kingroot.
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I saw sunshine provided temp root off and on; the usual cat and mouse game, where the devs tried to update it, as HTC patched the root exploits. I do believe you are right, that the current sunshine version does temp root on Lollipop (which the OP is on), but I don't think will temp root Marshmallow.