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Hi,
I'm using OpenDesire 4.0.34 and have partitioned my sdcard to have 3 partitions:
1 - FAT32 14GB
2 - EXT3 512MB
3 - SWAP/CACHE 32MB
Now I have one question:
I have enabled the "Allow application moving" setting in Settings->CyanogenMod settings->Application settings and selected Install location: Internal the same screen.
My question is: I've installed a bunch of apps I often use and they used to leave me with only 19MB free in internal phone memory. Now it shows free internal memory around 120MB?! I've checked all the apps in the Manage applications and they are on the phone (at least it says so). I've mounted /sd-ext in recovery and all the apps are there...
Can anyone explain me what's goin' on here?
Thanks for your help!
Uhm... you do know that the partition of an ext3 sd-ext system is exactly to provide greater storage space for your applications, don't you?!
Guess not...
The /sd-ext is the mount point of my ext3 partition on the sd card?
Anyway, I didn't move any app to sd card (at least explicitily).
z7x8c9 said:
Guess not...
The /sd-ext is the mount point of my ext3 partition on the sd card?
Anyway, I didn't move any app to sd card (at least explicitily).
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When you use Ext3 partition youll get "A2SD+" and both your internal memory and your Ext3 partiton will become your new "internal" space on phone. So if the setting is set to "internal" the apps will go to ext3 and internal phone memory.
The internal phone memory counter however only show how much space you have on the internal phone memory where only small parts of the apps is installed.
I just removed my sdcard to see what would happen and all my apps are gone.
As such I assume they are all on the sdcard...
So when using the ext3 partition, how can I choose if an app is installed to the phone memory or to the sdcard? Is this possible at all?
Also, when I go to manage applications, I can "move to sd card" any app, but what does this do then?
I'm a bit confused...
Moved to Q&A as not development.
Please do not make new threads in development to ask questions
z7x8c9 said:
I just removed my sdcard to see what would happen and all my apps are gone.
As such I assume they are all on the sdcard...
So when using the ext3 partition, how can I choose if an app is installed to the phone memory or to the sdcard? Is this possible at all?
Also, when I go to manage applications, I can "move to sd card" any app, but what does this do then?
I'm a bit confused...
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you are getting apps2sd confused with the native android move to sd function!!, when you create an ext partition and use a rom that supports apps2sd, the developer has used a script that point the device to the /sd-ext as the INTERNAL STORAGE location, where as if you use the move to sd function in android, the apk's are move to the Androidsecure folder in the root of your sd card, as aposed to being stored in /data/app
I think I've got it...
On an a2sd enabled rom, I'm not required to do anything in order to install apps on the sdcard.
The move to sdcard button is the native android method to move apps to the sdcard.
I got confused because in OpenDesire in the Settings->CyanogenMod settings->Application settings there is an option to allow application moving, but all this does is enable me to move any app to the .android_secure using the move to sdcard button. It's got nothing to do with a2sd, right?
Thanks for your help!
Hi,
I'm running Gingervillain on my Desire. Today I moved every app possible to SD. De total MB of these apps is around 50MB, I only gained 2MB by moving these apps. Seems weird, I know apps take some space on internal memory anyway but this seems a little much.
Is there any way too fix this or at least see what's eating my memory? I have 17MB free now, while 1 only have 4 apps on internal(and 82 on SD).
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Stop moving apps manually on SD! They are moving automatically from the a2sd+ script. Also please post the partition info you see in the first page of titanium backup
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reemprive said:
Hi,
I'm running Gingervillain on my Desire. Today I moved every app possible to SD. De total MB of these apps is around 50MB, I only gained 2MB by moving these apps. Seems weird, I know apps take some space on internal memory anyway but this seems a little much.
Is there any way too fix this or at least see what's eating my memory? I have 17MB free now, while 1 only have 4 apps on internal(and 82 on SD).
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A2SD+ moves all apps you install automatically to the ext partition on your sd card. If you press "move to sd" in application settings, they were moved to the fat32 partition of the sd.
Basically move all the apps to the phone then in terminal emulator write
Su
A2sd reinstall
Then it will reboot after movr all the apps to the ext partition
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reaper7881 said:
Basically move all the apps to the phone then in terminal emulator write
Su
A2sd reinstall
Then it will reboot after movr all the apps to the ext partition
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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I've tried it, didn't work.
So, basically, when I install something no action is required with Gingervillian?
Oh, heres my TB first page: http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/5799539108/
You can test if a2sd+ is working on this way:
1.) Download connectbot from market
2.) Start it, choose "local", type any nickname and enter
3.) Enter
su
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and answer superuser request
4.) Now enter
ls -l /data
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Now you should see, the path for installation apps should have changed to /sd (like this: app -> /sd/app); if unsure, post screenshot.
If a2sd+ is working, you have to do no move actions.
If the problem persists then format sd card (both partitions), wipe all , reflash
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MatDrOiD said:
You can test if a2sd+ is working on this way:
1.) Download connectbot from market
2.) Start it, choose "local", type any nickname and enter
3.) Enter and answer superuser request
4.) Now enter
Now you should see, the path for installation apps should have changed to /sd (like this: app -> /sd/app); if unsure, post screenshot.
If a2sd+ is working, you have to do no move actions.
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Here is the screenshot: http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/5799084381/
Is this what it's supposed to be?
reemprive said:
Here is the screenshot: http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/5799084381/
Is this what it's supposed to be?
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Seems like its ok... But let someone else confirm it..
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reemprive said:
Here is the screenshot: http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/5799084381/
Is this what it's supposed to be?
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Congrulations a2sd is working. To explain it: Standard path for apps the /data partition of your desire's internal memory. The symbol "->" means "was moved to".
So:
Standard partition + folder for apps: /data (internal memory) /app (folder in this internal partition)
was moved to (->)
/sd-ext (ext partition on sd card) /app (folder in this ext partiton)
It's the same with app-private (they belong together).
For you means this, all apps you install will be moved automatically to /sd-ext. You don't have to do anything.
I hope, this is understandable.
Thank you! TB restores will be on SD Ext too, I assume?
Yes. Restoring apps is nothing else than installing an app, merely and simply with user data.
I did what's explained on mattman's site, installed the terminal emulator and gave in those two commands.
http://www.mattman.org/index.php/ginger-villain/70-ginger-villain-internal-space
is app2sd just an app that moves apps to sd or does it do more?
don't know if you mean the app2sd FEATURE of Froyo+ or the app2sd (app2sd+) script-things-in-custom-roms thing...
Lothaen said:
don't know if you mean the app2sd FEATURE of Froyo+ or the app2sd (app2sd+) script-things-in-custom-roms thing...
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There is also an app in the market called app2sd, which allows you to quickly manage your apps/send to sd/clear cache and more. I used it as an app manager when I was in froyo, cause I found the android ones too laggy. It's a nice little tool
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As GV uses Darktremor A2SD there is an app in the market called a2sdgui.
With this app you can activate app2d, cache2sd and a few other things.
I use RCmixS v2.0 with A2SD and i have two security apps i want to have installed on the internal memory and not on the sd-card...
How can i move them?
hi,
there is many way s to do this
1/android => menu/settings/application choose your app and move it to internal
2/ use an app like titanium backup choose your app and select "move to internal"
(need to be rooted to do so) i suppose your are since it is a custom rom.
hi
i tried to search but didnt find
i have desire 8 gb sd card rooted ( can see super user)
silky rom
now when i download apps most apps goes to internal memory
like goole maps you tube dish pointer
all goes to internal memory
some like fruit ninja and angry bird goes to sd card but liek this my internal memery will be full
is it not possible to send app to sd card strange internal memory is less
plz if some 1 can guide
thanx
Did you create an ext partition on your sd card?
Did you check the /sd-ext/app directory? Thats where the apps are installed.
Jan
Try A2SD GUI from market, set default install location to A2SD.
Also you can try movik dalvik cache to SD, will free up 100mb+ of internal memory.
you can use "a2sd" to move the dalvik-cache to sd card.
1. open terminal emulator
2. type su
3. type a2sd help will give all the commands
a2sd check - to check the support of the SD EXT
a2sd reinstall - Moves free and paid apps to the ext2/ext3/ext4
partition on your secure digital card. Removes
the No A2SD flag file.
a2sd cachesd - to move dalvik cache to sd card
for rest of the commands refer below link
http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=158826790833326
I managed to get my phone rooted and installed nlooooo's 2.3 ROM with the help of a bunch of kind users from here. I'm now having trouble moving some apps to the sd card. I mainly want to move facebook, handcent, maps, es file explorer. Tried moving them through the 'Manage Applications' menu but the 'move to sd card' button is greyed out. I have A2SDGUI installed (came with the ROM) but not sure if and how I can use it to move these apps.
Any ideas?
no need to open another thread on another common issue...
going to link you to another guide, should explain a bit more why you shouldnt need to move apps. you should have read it after being pointed to it previously
as long as you've created your sd partition properly, the script should automatically move them. A2SDGUI app should also let you know.
i also recommend to install 'diskusage', it'll let you browse all your partitions so you can see how space is being used. you may find that your apps are already on sd partition
eddiehk6 said:
no need to open another thread on another common issue...
going to link you to another guide, should explain a bit more why you shouldnt need to move apps. you should have read it after being pointed to it previously
as long as you've created your sd partition properly, the script should automatically move them. A2SDGUI app should also let you know.
i also recommend to install 'diskusage', it'll let you browse all your partitions so you can see how space is being used. you may find that your apps are already on sd partition
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Just had a look at the guide. Do I need to follow the 5 steps underneath "Assuming you are rooted"? I was under the impression that the ROM I installed already includes Apps2SD functionality.
A2SDGUI says "Apps are on SD" when I open it, however, when I went to 'Manage Applications' I managed to move some apps to the SD card manually, meaning that they aren't all on the SD card.
I've installed diskusage and can confirm that the apps I mentioned in my previous post aren't on the SD Card.
lambada24 said:
Just had a look at the guide. Do I need to follow the 5 steps underneath "Assuming you are rooted"? I was under the impression that the ROM I installed already includes Apps2SD functionality.
A2SDGUI says "Apps are on SD" when I open it, however, when I went to 'Manage Applications' I managed to move some apps to the SD card manually, meaning that they aren't all on the SD card.
I've installed diskusage and can confirm that the apps I mentioned in my previous post aren't on the SD Card.
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to be honest, i don't think you've read all of the guide, otherwise you wouldnt be asking these questions. read the whole thing, underneath where you referred to. then start at the top and read the whole thing a few more times (trust me i did this several times before i understood)...you can repeat this for many internet guides lol
i've read through your other 'insufficient memory' thread, so have assumed that you've created your sd-ext partition properly using 4ext.
if A2SDGUI reports "Apps are on SD" i'm nearly certain it's already working, it means the apps are on the partition (which is why you made it in the first place).
basically, all your used memory (apps, dalvik cache, data) has to be stored somewhere. when you open diskusage, select the sd-ext option to browse it. the app is quite useful for looking at /data (your 'internal memory') and /system too.
the reason why you might not be able to move some apps depends on the rom, these are likely system apps. you can't move these to sd, and you won't free up any internal memory even if you could move them
lambada24 said:
Just had a look at the guide. Do I need to follow the 5 steps underneath "Assuming you are rooted"? I was under the impression that the ROM I installed already includes Apps2SD functionality.
A2SDGUI says "Apps are on SD" when I open it, however, when I went to 'Manage Applications' I managed to move some apps to the SD card manually, meaning that they aren't all on the SD card.
I've installed diskusage and can confirm that the apps I mentioned in my previous post aren't on the SD Card.
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If you have problems using my rom you should ask me for help.
Rom has Darktremor a2sd script included and A2SDGUI app should work. However, sometimes it can happen that after a fresh install A2SDGUI doesn't so you have to do the following:
-install Terminal app
-type su (and grant superuser rights)
-type a2sd reinstall and let it finish and reboot your phone. Reboot can last a little bit longer.
After that try to use A2SDGUI, and move apps and dalvik to sd-ext.
Read this thread, there you have all explanations about how to use a2sd.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=719151
nlooooo said:
If you have problems using my rom you should ask me for help.
Rom has Darktremor a2sd script included and A2SDGUI app should work. However, sometimes it can happen that after a fresh install A2SDGUI doesn't so you have to do the following:
-install Terminal app
-type su (and grant superuser rights)
-type a2sd reinstall and let it finish and reboot your phone. Reboot can last a little bit longer.
After that try to use A2SDGUI, and move apps and dalvik to sd-ext.
Read this thread, there you have all explanations about how to use a2sd.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=719151
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I followed your instructions and they seemed to have worked. To be sure of that, I switched off the phone, removed the SD Card and rebooted it. As expected, many of the apps weren't available. Problem is, when I put the card back in only a few apps re-appeared! What could be happening?
lambada24 said:
I followed your instructions and they seemed to have worked. To be sure of that, I switched off the phone, removed the SD Card and rebooted it. As expected, many of the apps weren't available. Problem is, when I put the card back in only a few apps re-appeared! What could be happening?
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There's a big difference between apps you moved manually from app management and apps you moved with a2sd. The first one are moved to fat32 partition of your sd card while the second are moved to sd-ext.
You shouldn't do that because you brake symlinks created by a2sd. Go to A2SDGUI and choose move dalvik and rebuild, or execute the same command via terminal.
nlooooo said:
There's a big difference between apps you moved manually from app management and apps you moved with a2sd. The first one are moved to fat32 partition of your sd card while the second are moved to sd-ext.
You shouldn't do that because you brake symlinks created by a2sd. Go to A2SDGUI and choose move dalvik and rebuild, or execute the same command via terminal.
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A2SDGUI didn't solve it but the terminal commands did - THANKS!
What's the quickest way of checking which apps are on internal memory / fat 32 / sd ext? I've installed 'diskusage' as recommended above but I can't seem to find the internal memory on it.
diskusage is good enough.....
lambada24 said:
A2SDGUI didn't solve it but the terminal commands did - THANKS!
What's the quickest way of checking which apps are on internal memory / fat 32 / sd ext? I've installed 'diskusage' as recommended above but I can't seem to find the internal memory on it.
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i use "FreeSpace" from the play store, its simple but good.
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lambada24 said:
A2SDGUI didn't solve it but the terminal commands did - THANKS!
What's the quickest way of checking which apps are on internal memory / fat 32 / sd ext? I've installed 'diskusage' as recommended above but I can't seem to find the internal memory on it.
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Sometimes A2SDGUI gets bugged. You can try to uninstall it with Titanium backup (clear data first) and to install it from market, to store it to internal memory, not on system partition.
However terminal is everworking solution...
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lambada24 said:
A2SDGUI didn't solve it but the terminal commands did - THANKS!
What's the quickest way of checking which apps are on internal memory / fat 32 / sd ext? I've installed 'diskusage' as recommended above but I can't seem to find the internal memory on it.
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i tried to explain...
eddiehk6 said:
basically, all your used memory (apps, dalvik cache, data) has to be stored somewhere. when you open diskusage, select the sd-ext option to browse it. the app is quite useful for looking at /data (your 'internal memory') and /system too.
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your internal memory is the /data option.
basically you want to ensure all your user apps are on the sd-ext partition, and not FAT32
in future, whenever you run into low space warnings, always use apps like these to check what's taking up the space first
nlooooo said:
Sometimes A2SDGUI gets bugged. You can try to uninstall it with Titanium backup (clear data first) and to install it from market, to store it to internal memory, not on system partition.
However terminal is everworking solution...
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Did that but Market installed it on the SD Card for me. Can I transfer it to internal memory by using the 'Convert to system app' option in Titanium Backup?
eddiehk6 said:
i tried to explain...
your internal memory is the /data option.
basically you want to ensure all your user apps are on the sd-ext partition, and not FAT32
in future, whenever you run into low space warnings, always use apps like these to check what's taking up the space first
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Can't see an 'sd-ext' option in diskusage. Is it the /system/sd ?
lambada24 said:
Did that but Market installed it on the SD Card for me. Can I transfer it to internal memory by using the 'Convert to system app' option in Titanium Backup?
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It's ok as long as it's not located in system folder. Do not convert it to system app cause you'll do exactly what you shouldn't!
nlooooo said:
It's ok as long as it's not located in system folder. Do not convert it to system app cause you'll do exactly what you shouldn't!
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Well, it's stored in the same place as Messages, Google Services, Gmail and HTC Sense. Is that fine?
lambada24 said:
Did that but Market installed it on the SD Card for me. Can I transfer it to internal memory by using the 'Convert to system app' option in Titanium Backup?
Can't see an 'sd-ext' option in diskusage. Is it the /system/sd ?
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try the "FreeSpace" app i suggested in earlier post, it tells u how much memory in system, cache, sdcard, ext, internal. it doest say whats using the space but atleast u will know if its being used
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lambada24 said:
Well, it's stored in the same place as Messages, Google Services, Gmail and HTC Sense. Is that fine?
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It shouldn't be. Anyway uninstall it and use terminal for commands.
jmcclue said:
try the "FreeSpace" app i suggested in earlier post, it tells u how much memory in system, cache, sdcard, ext, internal. it doest say whats using the space but atleast u will know if its being used
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Installed it and it says I have 5Mb free under 'System' - is that normal?
nlooooo said:
It shouldn't be. Anyway uninstall it and use terminal for commands.
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Would it be a good idea to execute the terminal command you gave me earlier once every few weeks to ensure all apps are on SD? How can I move dalvik to sd-ext via terminal?
lambada24 said:
Installed it and it says I have 5Mb free under 'System' - is that normal?
Would it be a good idea to execute the terminal command you gave me earlier once every few weeks to ensure all apps are on SD? How can I move dalvik to sd-ext via terminal?
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5Mb free on system-normal just don't put anything there anymore.
Type a2sd cachesd.
nlooooo said:
5Mb free on system-normal just don't put anything there anymore.
Type a2sd cachesd.
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Does the command 'a2sd reinstall' move apps from the internal memory to the sd card or simply reinstalls a2sd functionality? If the latter, what command should I use to move the apps?
Nevermind, I googled it and discovered it moves both current and future non-system apps to the SD Card.
Thanks to all of you for your assistance