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Has Eng S-Off Replaced Radio S-Off

Hello
My DHD is currently rooted and Radio S-Off. On the bootloader screen it states Ship S-Off so all is good. I have just gone through the procedure to apply Eng S-Off so I can flash a radio and now notice that at the bootloader screen it says Eng S-Off and not Ship S-Off. What im wondering is is the phone still Radio S-Off even though the bootloader screen shows Eng S-Off
Cheers

It is still Radio S-OFF.

yes you should have both of them and according to jkoljo you can verify that by checking first line of the bootloader, it should read ACE PVT ENG S-OFF. Bootloader>system info>CID should be 11111111.

Thanks for that

How do I know if I have ENG or Radio S-Off??

I have to be honest, I followed a fairly technical guide to root my DHD and although I got the gist of it, I'm not sure if it left me with just ENG S-Off or Radio S-Off as well.
Is there a way to check for both?
Cheers.

You can check in bootloader it will say if you are eng off or not and if your cid is 1111111111 your radio s off too
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- hold power button and select reboot then ok
- after hitting ok, wait 1 sec then press and hold power + vol down
- the phone will enter bootloader mode
at the very 1st line it should say ENG S-OFF
for RADIO S-OFF
- press vol down until you get more info
- if you see CID11111 that means you have RADIO S-OFF
else you don't

Excellent, thanks very much to both of you..........

Mine says
ACE PVT SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT.0.85.0007
....
...
...
...
..
What does that mean?
What s-off do I have?

Defectus said:
Mine says
ACE PVT SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT.0.85.0007
....
...
...
...
..
What does that mean?
What s-off do I have?
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That is only radio s-off.i believe
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Defectus said:
Mine says
ACE PVT SHIP S-OFF
HBOOT.0.85.0007
....
...
...
...
..
What does that mean?
What s-off do I have?
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Indeed that is radio s-off.
Hboot s-off looks like "ACE PVT ENG S-OFF"
The ENG stands for engineering.

Thanks guys. It's a bit confusing.
I'm gonna flash a new radio today. Do I only need radio s-off or do i need eng -s-off too?
If so, i guess you can apply it after you've radio s-off'ed?
Edit: So now I used the s-off easy one click tool.
Now I have ACE PVT ENG S-OFF
Do I still have the radio s-off?
As joliko stated you can have both. How does that work anyway?

Once you've entered the bootloader (Volume down + power on) if it says eng s-off you obviously have eng s-off you then select system info or something like that and it says the CID:xxxx. For example my phone which is now radio locked due to loading LeeDroid 1.3 based on the latest 1.72.405.3 ROM and not realising I needed to run Radio s-off says CID-VODAP021. What you want is CID:1111111 (not sure how many 1's but you get the idea). My advice after reading many pages it make absolutely sure you have radio s-off before running any updates or flashing any ROMs period. It is also highly reccomended to have eng s-off and also super user access (root access). From what I have read Radio s-off is a higher or more superior access to eng s-off. Having Radio s-off (otherwise known as Super CID) enables you to unlock any simlock and also load the latest HTC 1.72.405.3 ROM without loosing any root access or s-off.

Yoshi_523 said:
Once you've entered the bootloader (Volume down + power on) if it says eng s-off you obviously have eng s-off you then select system info or something like that and it says the CID:xxxx. For example my phone which is now radio locked due to loading LeeDroid 1.3 based on the latest 1.72.405.3 ROM and not realising I needed to run Radio s-off says CID-VODAP021. What you want is CID:1111111 (not sure how many 1's but you get the idea). My advice after reading many pages it make absolutely sure you have radio s-off before running any updates or flashing any ROMs period. It is also highly reccomended to have eng s-off and also super user access (root access). From what I have read Radio s-off is a higher or more superior access to eng s-off. Having Radio s-off (otherwise known as Super CID) enables you to unlock any simlock and also load the latest HTC 1.72.405.3 ROM without loosing any root access or s-off.
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actually you have more options with eng-s off as you can use fastboot commands. were if you just only had radio-s off you can't use fastboot but your right in the fact that you won't lose s-off were eng s-off is just the hboot been patched an so flashing new firmware with upgraded hboot you will lose the sercurity been off.

how do i know if I am ENG or Radio S-OFF
BOOTLOADER says:
VIVO PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT-1.09.0000
RADIO - 3805.04.03.22_M
eMMC-boot
what does that mean?
I am planning to change my radio to be compatible with ARHD 1.1.2

radio s-off but no eng hboot
Sent out of my Free Candy Van.

Before, after I had used Easy Eng S-Off Tool, I had Ship S-Off. After that I found out I can't flash splash img using fast boot, I ran the tool again and I had now Eng S-Off.
But in the system info, the CID is not 111111.
Does that means I had lost my Radio S-Off?
I'm now on CyanogenMod7 RC-1 with Eng S-Off.
I just now tried this One click Radio S-OFF (windows recognized well my DHD in Device Manager), but it said "Unknown Error, probably connections" (usb cable works fine).
Edit: I restored the backed-up rooted 1.32 and do Radio S-Off. Things ran smooth. Now I have both Eng S-Off and CID 11111.
And by doing so I realized how big Sense Roms are. Clean backed-up rooted Sense 1.32 = 525MB. TB Fusion 3d (Sense 2.1 + 3.0) with some apps (not big): 765 MB. Clean MIUI 1.7.5 = 232 MB. CM7 RC1 with many apps = 457 MB.

[Q] I can't root my HTC DHD

Hello, i'm strange , but popular problem, i can't root my DHD.
I tried AAHK but after download and put ruu on my sd card DHD restart and i get red triangle. AAHK say a must do: V+ ald power i click reboot, i did this and second time red triangle, after this same it go to bootloader and nothig do, AAHK says to try again hack if downgrade is succesful, but downgrade isn't succesfull. I tried wih goldcard method too, but in bootloader isn't happened too.
I read this:
"Downgrade Image Won't Flash
If the downgrade image won't flash from hboot, it is because you did not read above. Relock your bootloader by typing fastboot oem lock into a terminal/cmd prompt, then rerun the kit."
But my bootloader is already locked
Bootloader:
*** LOCKED (OOW) ***
ACE PVT SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT-2.00.0029
MICROP-0438
RADIO-26.14.04.28_M
eMMC-boot
System:
Version android 2.3.5
HTC Sense 3.0
number 3.13.110.4
I think the problem may be in LOCKED OOW and S-OFF, but i buy this phone with it.
Please help me, if you speak Polish please answer in this language

had the same problem download stock rom with baseband 1.32 or less put the rom on the root of the sd card now use andriod control to put ur phone in bootloader after the installation finishes use visionary plus to root the phone hope this helps...

[Q] Back to Stock ROM - available from any working DHD?

Hi,
I am in trouble. C.a. 6 months ago my DHD had to go to service because of headphone icon still standing at the taskbar and it was not possible to talk with anybody. After this i received new motherboard. Before that i had fully unlocked phone (root, S-OFF), but when i get it back from service, there was newest firmware installed, and of course s-on, no root. I rooted phone somehow, but s-on stayed still. And I can flash custom roms, but everytime I am doing this, I have to flash boot.img. Is it possible to turn S-ON to S-OFF? I tried many ways (AAHK, gold card + PD98IMG), downgrade to older version. Nothing was successful. The problem is, I think, that when any stock rom i am trying to flash with RUU, after rebooting to fastboot phone is locked on screen with HTC logo on black background. There is no progress bar of flashing, no screen with bootloader. What can I do to flash stock rom, can You help me?
On my bootloader screen already looks like this:
ACE PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT - 2.00.0029
MICROP-0438
RADIO-26.14.04.28_M
eMMc-boot
Dec 22 2011, 14:28:19
I will be very thankful for your help.

sampras83 said:
Hi,
I am in trouble. C.a. 6 months ago my DHD had to go to service because of headphone icon still standing at the taskbar and it was not possible to talk with anybody. After this i received new motherboard. Before that i had fully unlocked phone (root, S-OFF), but when i get it back from service, there was newest firmware installed, and of course s-on, no root. I rooted phone somehow, but s-on stayed still. And I can flash custom roms, but everytime I am doing this, I have to flash boot.img. Is it possible to turn S-ON to S-OFF? I tried many ways (AAHK, gold card + PD98IMG), downgrade to older version. Nothing was successful. The problem is, I think, that when any stock rom i am trying to flash with RUU, after rebooting to fastboot phone is locked on screen with HTC logo on black background. There is no progress bar of flashing, no screen with bootloader. What can I do to flash stock rom, can You help me?
On my bootloader screen already looks like this:
ACE PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT - 2.00.0029
MICROP-0438
RADIO-26.14.04.28_M
eMMc-boot
Dec 22 2011, 14:28:19
I will be very thankful for your help.
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Why is the hack kit not working? Is your bootloader unlocked?
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glevitan said:
Why is the hack kit not working? Is your bootloader unlocked?
Sent from my GT-N7000 using xda app-developers app
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Do you mean with HTCDev page? I tried this, but in step 14(i think) when the screen from android should appear to commit bootloader unlock operation, then happens nothing - the answer in command line window is ok - suitable to one in tutorial on HTCDev, but on the phone I can't see any changes. Well.. AAHK needs to install downgrade version and then there is the same problem like with RUU - phone cannot flash this version.

[q] please help!!!!

So I bought a new phone last week and tonight it has come up with this message!!! I have no clue about phones or computers can someone please please help me.
*** LOCKED ***
***Security Warning***
ENDEAVORU PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-1.72.0000
CPLD-NONE
MICROP-NONE
RADIO-5.1204.167.31
eMMC-bootmode: disabled
CPU-bootmode: disabled
HW Secure boot : enabled
MODEM PATH : OFF
Jun 21 2013, 18:24:41
Battery level is too low to flash
FASTBOOT
<VOL UP> to previous item
<VOL DOWN> to next item
<POWER> to select item
HBOOT
REBOOT
REBOOT BOOTLOADER
POWER DOWN

katie1 said:
So I bought a new phone last week and tonight it has come up with this message!!! I have no clue about phones or computers can someone please please help me.
*** LOCKED ***
***Security Warning***
ENDEAVORU PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-1.72.0000
CPLD-NONE
MICROP-NONE
RADIO-5.1204.167.31
eMMC-bootmode: disabled
CPU-bootmode: disabled
HW Secure boot : enabled
MODEM PATH : OFF
Jun 21 2013, 18:24:41
Battery level is too low to flash
FASTBOOT
to previous item
to next item
to select item
HBOOT
REBOOT
REBOOT BOOTLOADER
POWER DOWN
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Does the phone not go past this screen?
Did you update the phone before this happened? It looks like someone's tampered with the phone and tried to relock it while running a custom operating system, in return the phone will throw a Security Warning.
Head over to www.htcdev.com and sign up, unlock bootloader.
Sent from my One X using Tapatalk

humzaahmed155 said:
Does the phone not go past this screen?
Did you update the phone before this happened? It looks like someone's tampered with the phone and tried to relock it while running a custom operating system, in return the phone will throw a Security Warning.
Head over to www.htcdev.com and sign up, unlock bootloader.
Sent from my One X using Tapatalk
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Can't be, the bootloader is still originally locked, the flag on the bootloader should say relocked already if they did that. I think it's a issue with the battery as it seems very low looking at that message a bit down below.
Never advise people to unlock a "locked" bootloader because it could break potentially good warranty !

Mr Hofs said:
Can't be, the bootloader is still originally locked, the flag on the bootloader should say relocked already if they did that. I think it's a issue with the battery as it seems very low looking at that message a bit down below.
Never advise people to unlock a "locked" bootloader because it could break potentially good warranty !
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All very true, knowing how hboot firmware works; Security Warning seems to show up when the /system partitions been altered. But this seems new.
Here Katie, try to install this on your phone: http://androidruu.com/getdownload.p...Radio_5.1204.162.29_release_302015_signed.exe you will not require a bootloader unlock. You're going to have to run this using a computer, if you get "phone not detected" issues, install this: http://www.mediafire.com/?eqrqb44r3ot18g1
Good luck.
Sent from my One X using Tapatalk

You can't mess with a system on a s-on hox without a unlocked bootloader or s-off, so it should say relocked in any way. Even if it was s-off, making an s-off hox back to locked and s-on will proper brick the device !
That ruu will not work. The device is s-on and has a hboot of 1.72 and you can t downgrade a hox that is s-on. That ruu contains a Hboot of 1.39.
@katie1
Save yourself the hassle and don't try the ruu, i already know the outcome. You have 3 choices
1: turn the phone off via the fastboot/bootloader menu, if it doesn't turn off or charge you can try the battery charge script via fastboot. Download the following file and place it in the fastboot folder on the pc and execute it with the phone in fastboot usb mode (bootloader)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/aaah8gqz8j024xz/Batt script.bat
It will continuously reboot the bootloader and charge the battery. It's worth to try......
2: claim your warranty at the seller (at least contact the seller about this issue because it can't be your fault at all)
3: unlock the bootloader via the HTC dev site (which may break your warranty) and flash a custom rom. But you need to get the device charged first, see #1
I would go for option #2 first

problem with one x
i have the same problem, but the reason is different becuase t tried to install a new rom. and that has gone very wrong
i come in the same screen.
with
*** relocked ***
*** security warning****
endeavoru pvt ship s-on rl
hboot - 1.72.0000
clpd none
microp none
radio - 5.1204.167.31.
how can i install a working rom on my phone.
true sd card is impossible
the only way is a ruu, i think, but where is that to find?
who can help me?
jan

janusm said:
i have the same problem, but the reason is different becuase t tried to install a new rom. and that has gone very wrong
i come in the same screen.
with
*** relocked ***
*** security warning****
endeavoru pvt ship s-on rl
hboot - 1.72.0000
clpd none
microp none
radio - 5.1204.167.31.
how can i install a working rom on my phone.
true sd card is impossible
the only way is a ruu, i think, but where is that to find?
who can help me?
jan
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You already had an unlocked bootloader so unlock it and flash a custom recovery, from there you follow procedures to install a new rom.

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Mr Hofs said:
You already had an unlocked bootloader so unlock it and flash a custom recovery, from there you follow procedures to install a new rom.
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thanks. that works,