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Hey guys,
I've had my Desire rooted for about 2 months now, and I've tried many different ROMs. At first, as I'm sure many of you did, I installed Cyanogenmod, but I didn't like the simplistic interface. Then I decided to install experimental stuff, like the Gingerbread ones, but I soon found out that they were still too laggy and buggy to be considered as a standard ROM.
Now, I've decided to re-install Cyanogenmod 6.1.1 because people love it and it's super fast. The problem is that I don't see the speed that everyone's talking about! My Quadrant score is lower than the Nexus 2.2 score and I cannot understand why. I even installed DeFroST but the results are still the same. The phone is too laggy, much slower than the Stock ROM with HTC Sense (which was pretty damn fast in my opinion). Does anyone knows why this happens? Does this have to do with the ext partition on my 16gb memory card or something?
Thanks in advance,
Louis.
Just how the rom is built. To be honest, anything above the score or 1100 we won't really notice much difference at all. When I've used it, I really tested the balls off it and my CPU score was making the difference. There are subtle differences between roms but we can't notice it so it doesn't matter. Anyway, benchmarks arn't really reliable, just a rough estimate.
I've installed my first ROM even some days ago and I'm getting 1160 on Leedroid 2.3d with a class 4 sd card. Speed is noticeably faster compared to the stock rom, it really is.
Maybe you could try another sd card ?
Don't know if it could help, I'm all new into this too.
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Do you fell laggy or slow? Quadrant doesn't show useful statistics... IMO Cyanogen is fast enough. But, if you want you can try MIUI, especially this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957291
It is really fast and battery saving
P.S.
If you want useful statistics use SmartBench from market, I have 877 and 1114.
SmartBench is better.
And for quadrant:
I have used a ROM which gave me extremly high scores (2200+), but in real life it was laggy and slow.
Now using a ROM which is around 1700, but is super-fast and no lags at all.
The problem is it does feel laggy and it's not a placebo effect because I didn't do the test and then thought that it felt laggy; it felt laggy so I ran the test for confirmation. Froyo 2.2 with Sense was much, much, much faster than a Vanilla CyanogenMod, and even though I never ran Quadrant on it I remember that it was much faster. That is simply not right. Maybe it takes some time for the ROM to "settle" or something?
I've been running Aurax TSense on my Desire since long now, it's v8.4 currently.
I've seen a number of new ROMs out there but am scared of testing them all because of the time needed to set it up for daily usage.
I've looked for a similar thread in the first two pages of this forum with no luck. That'd mean that any thread related to this very topic could be quite old.
Now, what I'm looking for?
0. decent battery life (1.5 days currently)
1. stability (of course)
2. the FM Radio and the 720p camera need to be fully working
3. the audio player needs to support both OGG and FLAC (I hate MP3s)
4. the alarm clock needs to support multiple alarms on a weekly basis.
I've been using Aurax because all of these features are in place there.
And I'd like to test something new for the sake of curiosity.
I'm not embracing any UI religion nor any other fancy thing: if it's compliant with the above list, it can be OK.
What'd be a good hint/choice, then?
Well do what i did switched from Neo's AuraxTSense rom to his ReflexTSense it's a DHD rom ,works just as good as his Aurax
As for other Sesnse rom's i dis-advise ,cuz they're old and not updated,and most DHD sense roms i've tested are laggy [except for Reflex]
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ReflexTSense it's a DHD rom
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DHD?
What's that?
It is a ROM ported from Desire HD.
Insertcoin hd 2.0.1 data2ext version
IMO the best HD rom you can use, incredibly stable, very fast, pretty much stock HD rom with a few tweeks
But, do HD ROMs work fine on non-HD phones?
i recommend you the great RCmixHD ROM
And yes it works good
I use oxygen rom and it's perfect for me. It has all the features you pointed out except flac playback (which I'm not sure of) but it can be done by installing 3rd party media player, tho. Bettery life is very long (longest of all roms I've been testing so far) and with normal use calling, texting, emailing, fb, internet, music etc. for me it lasts approx 35-40h. Of course can be even longer with some less "activity". And other thing is, oxygen is very up to date. You should try it for your Desire.
I use CM7.
Have tried most of the Desire ROMs available on XDA but at the end of the day, I always go back to Cyanogen. I feel (and please don't quote me on this, I'm only speaking for myself) that CM is one of the fastest and smoothest ROMS out there even though I only get around 1500 on quadrant. Also, battery life is pretty good as well I also like the range of customization available for this ROM.
BTW, this is my first ever post on XDA even though I've been coming here almost every day for the last 6 months.
I love android because of you guys....thanks everyone
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I use oxygen rom and it's perfect for me. It has all the features you pointed out except flac playback (which I'm not sure of) but it can be done by installing 3rd party media player, tho. Bettery life is very long (longest of all roms I've been testing so far) and with normal use calling, texting, emailing, fb, internet, music etc. for me it lasts approx 35-40h. Of course can be even longer with some less "activity". And other thing is, oxygen is very up to date. You should try it for your Desire.
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Oxygen 2 lacks 720P Camera. Try Cm7 @ OP
Giiar said:
I feel (and please don't quote me on this, I'm only speaking for myself) that CM is one of the fastest and smoothest ROMS out there even though I only get around 1500 on quadrant.
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I dont trust benchmarks anymore. I've seen some benchmarks giving better scores with certain roms even though the tests took longer to finish. I wont say names because thats just lame, but it seems wise to trust your feelings instead of your numbers. Plus, if you are happy with a certain rom and it feels fast and responsive, scores wont change that.
rcmixhd rom is the best white robocik
I vote for Redux and GingerVillain!
Starburst with datatosd looks promising. I'm trying it out currently.
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what is the difference between this roms, and whats the difference in speed, stability and batterylife?
I found that CM7 works as it is developed better although I've not tried the new Oxygen update. There are prob going to be subtle differences but try them both and see what you like best.
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I think a lot of what you get told will be opinion. I think the one thing I can tell you that is unquestionable fact is that you'll have a little more room for data/apps with Oxygen than with CM7 if you use their respective HBOOT layouts.
I've been switching between CM7 and Oxygen 2.0.3 for the last couple of days, and i think the Oxygen is running a bit smoother than CM7. Differences in these ROMs is that with CM7 you get 720p camera and all the CM features, and Oxygen gives you more room for apps (assuming you're going to use their custom HBOOT layouts).
Linpack and Quadrant doesn't seem to differ much between these two, about 40 Mflops, and 1100-1200 i Quadrant score.
I went with CM7 (for now), because i really dig the Render effects and 720p cam
Thanks, for your comments
CM7 is known for it's customisation and development for the end user, it's brilliant and has a lot of tweakable features. I personally don't use it, as it has "too much" going on for what I want (I'm a minimalist).
Whereas Oxygen is pretty basic, sure it has a few tweaks/hacks here and there, but the overall footprint of the ROM is tiny, roughly 50mb, can't really complain with that.
I read in Development forums that the new Nitrous rom is
an updated stock rom that is much faster. I have flashed
many roms and kernels in the past and never saw a speed
difference (unless overclocked). Well I tried Nitrous and again
noticed no difference in quadrant or nenamark2 scores (I game).
I flashed the hotspot hack and it did not work, so I flashed
a supposed faster anthrax kernel. Nothing got faster, but now
the hotspot wifi works. So Nitrous is a good looking rom, but
I don't get how everyone is saying it is faster. The only bugs
I found is that set cup or cpu master, as well as sd speed increase
tweeks do NOT stick after reboot. Anyone have any ideas on that?
And can people post their quadrant and nenamark2 scores to
show if it is really faster? Thanks
hotstocks said:
I read in Development forums that the new Nitrous rom is
an updated stock rom that is much faster. I have flashed
many roms and kernels in the past and never saw a speed
difference (unless overclocked). Well I tried Nitrous and again
noticed no difference in quadrant or nenamark2 scores (I game).
I flashed the hotspot hack and it did not work, so I flashed
a supposed faster anthrax kernel. Nothing got faster, but now
the hotspot wifi works. So Nitrous is a good looking rom, but
I don't get how everyone is saying it is faster. The only bugs
I found is that set cup or cpu master, as well as sd speed increase
tweeks do NOT stick after reboot. Anyone have any ideas on that?
And can people post their quadrant and nenamark2 scores to
show if it is really faster? Thanks
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Quadrant scores dont really tell you anything and can easily be manipulated, linpack scores are a slightly better judge for performance but still not truly accurate and easily manipulated, your best judge for true performance increase is to use it for several days preferably a week and see how it runs for you
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That's kind of my point. I have tried many roms/kernals and no matter
what speed claims they have, they are all the same (sense based).
I would think that 3d games like Shadowgun, Nova, or Dungeon Hunter
would seem faster/smoother with so called faster roms and kerrnels
like Nitrous/Anthrax, but they are exactly the same speed as Sprint
Stock HTC Evo 4g? All these roms floating around are visually different,
but the speed is exactly the same, so why do devs claim their rom
is faster?
I watched a guy on youtube flashed 119 roms/kernals and said
SavageZen/MUII or something is twice as fast (quadrant), but
the guy lost the ability to mount the phones SD card and 4g!!!
So, my question is:
For the Sprint HTC Evo 4g rooted,
what is THE fastest sense rom/kernel?
Or are they really all the same speed?
Mainly interested in faster gaming, and I do have chainfire installed.
Thanks
Damn Hotstocks at this point I don't think there is anything different anybody can tell you that would really meet your demand... Perhaps maybe you can seek the opinion of notorious XDA Guru "Captain Throwback" and see what he thinks on this matter, this dude forever has a good tip on just about any relevant issue.
Hmm, it would just seem that people around here would
know what is the fastest kernel/rom for full Sprint HTC evo 4g
sense compatibility. Unless I am mistaken, all the sense roms
are the same speed and people are lying when they say they
are faster (Nitrous). I can see how Cyanogen or a senseless rom
could be faster, but all the sense roms I have tried were no faster
than Sprint HTC stock. Maybe a Nitrous user can chime in here.
Hey,
I am not sure what he did to the software of the phone but it appears to me that he didn't tweak the system speed at all but if you noticed transitions are faster and he changed a lot of the animation settings to no dealy so they move faster and gives the Rom the appearance it is faster but the Rom itself has no physical speed changes. That's my two cents anyways
I hope I helped if I did please hit the thanks button
Stevo
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You do realize the evo is almost 2 yrs old and is severely limited in capabilities by its hardware right? No one can answer your question because every evo is different and every user is different what makes my evo fast may make your evo crawl and vice versa, you also have to wait several days after flashing for the rom and kernel to settle in before your really see any performance difference, you cant flash a rom for an hour or 2 and then judge it they HAVE to settle
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You do realize the evo is almost 2 yrs old and is severely limited in capabilities by its hardware right? No one can answer your question because every evo is different and every user is different what makes my evo fast may make your evo crawl and vice versa, you also have to wait several days after flashing for the rom and kernel to settle in before your really see any performance difference, you cant flash a rom for an hour or 2 and then judge it they HAVE to settle
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This is pretty much what it is hotstocks, just keep in mind these are just a few factors that may vary results from user to user.
Thanks for the info. I know the hardware is not dual core or the newest.
And I do let the rom settle in for 10 minutes. I don't see any reason why
it would need to settle in for a week, but will use it for a week. And the
statement that my evo will be a different speed than yours makes no sense.
If we both have a Sprint HTC Evo 4g running the same rom and kernel at the
stock 1ghz, they will be both the exact same speed and should quadrant the same.
Obviously if I have a bunch of programs running in the background, that changes, but I am talking about after a fresh clean flash.
hotstocks said:
Thanks for the info. I know the hardware is not dual core or the newest.
And I do let the rom settle in for 10 minutes. I don't see any reason why
it would need to settle in for a week, but will use it for a week. And the
statement that my evo will be a different speed than yours makes no sense.
If we both have a Sprint HTC Evo 4g running the same rom and kernel at the
stock 1ghz, they will be both the exact same speed and should quadrant the same.
Obviously if I have a bunch of programs running in the background, that changes, but I am talking about after a fresh clean flash.
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U obviously need to read some more, there are 3 different hardware versions of the evo 002-004 and all have slightly differnt hardware thus they all act differentlu with different software, it takes much longer than 10 minutes for hardware to adjustbto new software which it why it needs to settle in for several days
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Thanks for the info. My hardware says 0004
Does that mean I have the newest/fastest hardware?
Newest doesnt mean fastest so no it all depends on what they had when it was made they have different logic boards different cameras different screens different brands of memory but all have the same processor just different combos all run differently
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Thanks. I know my phone isn't the latest and greatest.
But I am holding out for the LTE Sprint phones coming this
summer. It would be silly to waste my 2 year upgrade on
a Galaxy SII with wimax, when I will need an LTE phone this
summer. Plus it will probably be a quad core 1920x1080 monster
also. Right now I am just trying to make my phone as fast as
possible. It is overclocked to 1.13ghz, have sd speed increase at 2048.
I thought there would be a SIMPLE answer to which sense rom and
kernel were definately the fastest, but I guess no one can answer
that simple question. I have been working on computers for 30 years,
I can install windows XP, windows vista, and windows 7 on three identical computers, I can also flash old and new bioses to the motherboards,
and I can DEFINATELY then benchmark the same machines with different bios (rom) and kernel (windows version), and tell you what is the fastest. I fail to
see why this is so difficult to do with a smartphone like the evo 4g. I would think that the rom/kernel with the highest quadrant (graphics) score and highest Nenamark2 score would be the fastest rom/kernel. Games or 3d graphics is where the phone runs into a bottleneck.
not all evo's are created equal bud, that's just how it is
Every computer, phone, tablet, game console, router, etc. is going to have significant performance variances at an individual device level. Even ones that are identically configured, running the same OS, software, firmware, drivers, etc. A 20+ year career as a network engineer showed me that, and nothing has changed in that regard with more modern electronics.
I'm running the Nitrous ROM as my daily driver so I'm rather familiar with it, and I really don't see how you can claim that anyone lied to you. The ROM has simply been tweaked to speed up the UI, transitions, and a few other things. Read the first section of the OP for that thread -- it clearly states what has been improved. Nowhere in there does it claim overclocking or anything that would improve phone gaming. The improvements related to data/Wi-Fi have quite a few other factors at play, including the base level variances between devices that I mentioned in the first paragraph. I haven't really noticed an improvement in Wi-Fi, but have noticed an improvement in 3G.
All that said, the ROM is visibly faster and "prettier" (which usually don't come together in one package) on my EVO 4G than any other Sense ROM I've put on it. You need to read/understand what the dev did and not let your expectations get so out of whack. If you want better game performance, you're simply going to have to get a better phone. For its time, the EVO 4G was an absolute BEAST. Now? There are quite a few better phones.
Thanks, and I agree. The evo can still play almost any game on the market (not gta III) with acceptable performance. Nitrous is a nice looking rom, my 3g is same speed. I am using it as my daily, but it is misleading that it is claiming to be faster than stock, it is the same. I also seem to have a problem with sd speed not sticking between reboots, even though I have checked it. Same with CPU master free (set cpu) settings not sticking thru reboot. I also think the live wallpaper wasn't sticking thru reboot, but that was on 1.2.7, haven't tried it on 1.3.1., just wastes battery.
hotstocks said:
Nitrous is a nice looking rom, my 3g is same speed. I am using it as my daily, but it is misleading that it is claiming to be faster than stock, it is the same.
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We'll just have to disagree on that one, because overall it's a much faster ROM for me. However, I use my phone as just a smartphone (multimedia, light browsing, email, texting, etc.) where the Nitrous tweaks would be more obvious and beneficial, and then use my Acer tablet far more for gaming.
I think you should just pick a Sense or AOSP ROM that you like and is well supported, and then focus your efforts on various kernels and trying out their options/settings to try to get the most out of your "old" hardware while you wait to get a new phone.
Thanks, I actually did that and it is how I found Nitrous.
I think it is the best sense rom right now, but it has a few
little bugs. I can't post yet in the dev forum for Nitrous,
but the live wallpapers definately do not stick with reboot,
goes back to Nitrous default wallpaper. Other than that
I am pretty happy with Nitrous and Anthrax kernel (for oc
and wireless tether). Real stable. I was just saying that
when the dev says it is much speedier, and his lock screen
says "Nitrous Oxide System", I expect to see a noticable
speed increase. If you put Nitrous Oxide into a Corvette or
Mustang, it doesn't just get get 1% faster, it gets 25% faster!
With Nitrous you REALLY should notice the speed difference.
Yo Hotstocks I'll give you credit for sticking to what you feel son LOL I'm shock you still debating in this thread however if it's ok with you let me give you a little tip since I noticed you might be a little excited to comment on the Dev once you get more than 10 post... Be very gentle with what you say over there because these people spend a lot of time and effort behind what they do for somebody to come and talk smack about their work... Chances are they'll rip you a new one if you cross the line... Just saying son don't take it to the heart either.
Hello,
I am new to HTC Wildfire, I have rooted it, installed cwm, flashed various ROMS (cyanogenmod family). Now I have noticed that every single rom is much like very slow or laggy or how to say it, i mean user interface reacts way too slow etc. I have Xperie X10 mini, which is also let's say old phone, but i.e. on cyanogemnod 7.2 it runs hell fluently.
Am I missing something? I have never seen such a slow phone. -- That said, I just want to know if "yes, this is it, this is wildfire" or am i missing something to do to make it fluent.
Thank you and cheers!
Marek
much1 said:
Hello,
I am new to HTC Wildfire, I have rooted it, installed cwm, flashed various ROMS (cyanogenmod family). Now I have noticed that every single rom is much like very slow or laggy or how to say it, i mean user interface reacts way too slow etc. I have Xperie X10 mini, which is also let's say old phone, but i.e. on cyanogemnod 7.2 it runs hell fluently.
Am I missing something? I have never seen such a slow phone. -- That said, I just want to know if "yes, this is it, this is wildfire" or am i missing something to do to make it fluent.
Thank you and cheers!
Marek
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1) this is wildfire
2) try sense roms rather than cyanogen roms
3) i hope you do overclock your phone.
4) the fastest rom is jokerdroid 4.3, rempuzzle, jokerdroid 4.2
The above roms are all sense based roms. They will comparatively be faster.
X10 mini has an adreno 200 gpu if im not mistaken whereas wildfire has none. So everything including graphics run through the cpu on a wildfire, whereas on x10 the graphics run through the gpu greatly freeing up the cpu.
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much1 said:
Hello,
I am new to HTC Wildfire, I have rooted it, installed cwm, flashed various ROMS (cyanogenmod family). Now I have noticed that every single rom is much like very slow or laggy or how to say it, i mean user interface reacts way too slow etc. I have Xperie X10 mini, which is also let's say old phone, but i.e. on cyanogemnod 7.2 it runs hell fluently.
Am I missing something? I have never seen such a slow phone. -- That said, I just want to know if "yes, this is it, this is wildfire" or am i missing something to do to make it fluent.
Thank you and cheers!
Marek
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sorry for being honest, i'm also not going to offend you in any way (; why do people are so stupid?? firstly, if you start ur adventure with rooting, roms etc. then why you install cyanogen as ur first custom rom?? i can't get it. cyanogen roms are not so easy to set them up to be fast. you have to try different kernels, different cpu settings (and trust me, 768mhz isn't faster than 729 for example in that case), different scripts and everything to have more effective working wildfire. of course it is typical low end, i probably won't be wrong when i say that it is one of the weakest android phones, but if you know what u do then you can make it faster than any better phone. of course not in games because of gpu. i recommend to you to nake ext partition, install rem puzzle or any other sense rom. then read something about setting up your phone with cyanogen roms and still try, like in logical game and i have to prevent you that cm9 and other ics roms also are not as fast as stock or modded sense roms again, sorry for being honest and sometimes rude. i don't want to offend anyone here and it is my opinion about it and i think that all of you will agree with me :3
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As i said before comparing it x10 mini is not a fair comparison because of willies lack of gpu, I agree with poster above that with some work cm roms can be improved but straight out of the box it does take a bit of work to keep it that way.
Wildfire is a great phone and would have been, if not was the best of its time in its price range. The problem it has now is it cannot compete with other phones that moved into that price range simply because it lacks a gpu, it doesn't matter about overclocking or scripts, the way android runs itself causes the problem for a gpu'less phone with a small cpu.
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