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custom kernel comparison

noob kernel knowledge here.
is there a way to run test on different kernels to see which is more efficient or has an improvement? i'm about to flash ManU 2.0

For battery efficinecy - just the long run test.
Other way you can try test like - RL Benchmark, Quadrant, Antutu, Neocore, SD Speed Test etc.

i cant seem to find any other custom roms for desire besides ManU and MoDaCo Custom Kernel (MCK). are there any others out there and which is 'better'?

do0b said:
i cant seem to find any other custom roms for desire besides ManU and MoDaCo Custom Kernel (MCK). are there any others out there and which is 'better'?
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Hi.
I think you wanted to say "any other custom kernel for desire". If this is true take a look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809328 at the 3rd post. There you have kernels for AOSP ROMS and Sense ROMS.
Hope it helps you.

do0b said:
i cant seem to find any other custom roms for desire besides ManU and MoDaCo Custom Kernel (MCK). are there any others out there and which is 'better'?
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Coutts was doing awesome kernel's but he abandoned project i think, you can still search the forums for it. (they are kinda outdated now)

kinda seems to me all the kernel are kinda like an 'in built' setCPU

UsManyDead said:
Hi.
I think you wanted to say "any other custom kernel for desire". If this is true take a look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809328 at the 3rd post. There you have kernels for AOSP ROMS and Sense ROMS.
Hope it helps you.
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Such a great thread thanks for that, never seen it before

[Q] Flashing new kernel fail (Kernel Manager or 4EXT)

Hi there,
Am trying to update the kernel on my Desire running Runnymede 2.2 AIO.
Have been trying to do this with kernel manager but no luck. kernel downloads, gets verified, and system then restarts into recovery and nothing happens.
I then have to reflash Runnymede in order to get it to boot at all.
The only one i've tried is the Tiamat kernel.
Can anyone give me any pointers?
Thanks a lot!

velkrosmaak said:
Hi there,
Am trying to update the kernel on my Desire running Runnymede 2.2 AIO.
Have been trying to do this with kernel manager but no luck. kernel downloads, gets verified, and system then restarts into recovery and nothing happens.
I then have to reflash Runnymede in order to get it to boot at all.
The only one i've tried is the Tiamat kernel.
Can anyone give me any pointers?
Thanks a lot!
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Tiamat is an AOSP kernel
Runnymede is a Sense ROM
you need to flash a compatible Sense kernel
i've only flashed kernels with through clockworkmod recovery, no problems doing so, just have to check compatibility

ah, thanks eddiehk6! starting to make a bit more sense now. not sure why an AOSP kernel would show up on the list in kernel manager as I thought that was the whole point... only showing compatible kernels.
this brings me to my next question, is there a list of kernels (with details!) somewhere?
Thanks!

velkrosmaak said:
ah, thanks eddiehk6! starting to make a bit more sense now. not sure why an AOSP kernel would show up on the list in kernel manager as I thought that was the whole point... only showing compatible kernels.
this brings me to my next question, is there a list of kernels (with details!) somewhere?
Thanks!
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hah starting to make a bit more sense....
look here, scroll down and u'll find a list.
i'm no expert, but by logic assume you would need a sense gingerbread kernel...check compatibility by searching or asking in the respective thread. otherwise just make a nandroid before each kernel flash just in case.
a word of warning, people's experiences with different kernels differ wildly in the threads, so most of the time you'll have to use trial and error to find one that works best for you, as long as you have the patience. also a bit more terminology to learn...

[Q] ICS

What ROM is able to be a daily driver with the defy for T-Mobile?

BUMP........

Can someone please just tell me what ROM is a stable driver for ICS on the regular TMO Defy?

seriously? read the threads don't be lazy

mckarty said:
seriously? read the threads don't be lazy
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I've read parts of each thread but there is no thread with a sum of all the roms and up to date info. It is impossible to read through 1000 pages to determine which rom is usable. Why can't someone just help someone out?

hah2110 said:
I've read parts of each thread but there is no thread with a sum of all the roms and up to date info. It is impossible to read through 1000 pages to determine which rom is usable. Why can't someone just help someone out?
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Why can't you just wait to let the devs finish their work? All ROMS are kind of pre-alpha status, so if you want to have a reliable phone, stick with your stock software. Elsewise try experimenting and find the ROM fulfilling your needs!

PRE-ALPHA? I didn't know they were all Pre-Alpha. Which one is the closest to daily driver but doesn't have every bell and whistle? I have a Defy as a secondary phone and want to give ICS a whirl.
Thanks

hah2110 said:
PRE-ALPHA? I didn't know they were all Pre-Alpha. Which one is the closest to daily driver but doesn't have every bell and whistle? I have a Defy as a secondary phone and want to give ICS a whirl.
Thanks
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From my own experience I can recommend Epsylons' build from 19-March
http://defy-cm.net/defy-cm9-nightly/

Swift2603 said:
From my own experience I can recommend Epsylons' build from 19-March
http://defy-cm.net/defy-cm9-nightly/
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Ok and then is anything else necessary to get it working, IE new kernel, etc.?

Epsylon3's build from 19.03 is for the Froyo Kernel. You can use this kernel only with the Defy (green and red lens), not with Defy+. For Defy+ you need a build for the GB kernel (the latest being the one from 18.03 by quarx).
So, if you have a Defy and you're on the Froyo kernel and CM7 you can simply flash the 19.03 ICS build after wiping data, cache and Dalvik cache (and after flashing ICS wipe cache and Dalvik cache again). You'll also need to flash the new ICS gapps.

I assume you are familiar with rooting, 2ndInint, CWM and so on?! If not follow this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1216982
Otherwise you should start over with this:
Flash a fixed sbf with Froyo from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=966537.
Install CM7 (latest stable) from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1553782
And afterwards CM9 from here: http://defy-cm.net/defy-cm9-nightly/
And don't even think of porting all your apps with Titanium to CM9 - this can give you lots of trouble. Just make a clean install. If you have any trouble just use the forums' search function 99% of the questions you may want to ask, have been asked and answered already. Don't be lazy

Read the threads next time 90% of them tell you the state in the 1st post, if you would read them you would know, why ask the same question a hundred times, it clogs the forum
teamwork makes the dream work

[Support] [FAQ] [BL7] working GB-based ROMs for green lens defys

Hi @ all.
I want to start a support thread for all those unlucky ones who flashed a BL7-sbf on their green-lensed defy.
NOT the Defy+ or red lens, because the green one is the one for real trouble.
I am aware that you can always install a CM10 by quarx, but I wanted to have a more smooth and stable solution.
You should verify, that you are on a BL7. If you don't know what that means, you should not be here, Do not use these rooting instruction unless you know, you are on BL7. If you're questionning here, what are advantages, or disadvantages, or how you can find out what BL you have, please leave NOW.
This thread is for those who know what's cookin'.
I cannot stress this enough - be sure. search the forums. Don't flood this with useless questions.
I'll try to keep the first posts updated regularly, so that there should be no reason to read the whole thread everytime.
Now let's get started:
1. As far as I know, Froyo is no longer an option.
So, your options start with GB ROMs plus the camera fix. Please comment if they work and how.
I am sure somebody already built such roms.
2. You can also use a 2ndboot-based CM7 build like ms2ginger.
I don't know how many of those exist.
3. What I need you for:
Please add your own rom, when you know it's working on BL7.
Please add the rom you're using, when you're on BL7 with working SOC cam.
Questions:
It would be really helpful to know if ANY GB ROM will work with the camera fix.
It would also be helpful to know, if we should use custom MB525 or MB526 builds as base rom.
Working Roms:
1. MS2Ginger
2. tbc.
3. tbc.
First try (all flashed via custom recovery):
1. I managed to get a working CM 7.2, from early may 2013 with GB Kernel. (cm72-20120506-NIGHTLY-Defy+.zip)
2. Rooted via Defy+ BL7 method (sig)
3. Sndinit 2.3 (you should use 2.0, because some said they had problems with the 2.3 version) i am writing this a week later, so I hope this is correct
5. camera did NOT work
What I did NOT get to work (yet):
1. update-CyanMobile-eXperience-Defy-20130502-Release.zip
2. WajkIUI_multilang_3.1.27.zip
3.
Unfortunately "not working" means usually no more bootups, no way to get into custom recovery for restoring or reflashing, so you'll have to start all over again:
1. Flash first sbf (sig)
2. Flash second sbf for root (sig)
3. Install SndInit 2.0
4. boot into recovery
5. flash your new flavour
...tbc

for supporters
If someone managed to get a custom ROM to work, please provide following informations:
Build# of the "wrong" sbf
sbf's used for root (there are already 2 known combinations, CN & CEE)
used SndInit (should be greater than 2.0 i guess)
full flash instructions
which recovery used for wiping
which one for flashing
how many reboots
approx. duration of the process
ROM Version and build
Information about 2nd boot or 2nd init and when to set it
Does the camera work?
Please, ONLY BL7 stucking ROMs, this is a special thread for special cases.

reserved
reserved.

THK For start this thread.
I am on DFP231 BL7 Green Lens.
By flashing rooted SBF BL7 AND quarx CM10 (2nd boot)
Camera Work.
http://quarx2k.ru/cm10-2ndboot-nightly-defy(+)/CM10-20130409-NIGHTLY-mb526.zip
But my Battery not work.

first CM7 known to work
Look here:

jalal-jap said:
THK For start this thread.
I am on DFP231 BL7 Green Lens.
By flashing rooted SBF BL7 AND quarx CM10 (2nd boot)
Camera Work.
http://quarx2k.ru/cm10-2ndboot-nightly-defy(+)/CM10-20130409-NIGHTLY-mb526.zip
But my Battery not work.
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Thanks, but this thread is GB-based ROM's only.
I wanted to have a snappier / more responsive / smooth ROM instead of feature-rich slow/laggy ones. - See OP.
To clarify: 2.3.x-based ROM's only.
Thanks anyway.

mobilefirmware.com/index.php?route=product/category&path=7618_7654
Jó ez a defy+

retekevo said:
mobilefirmware.com/index.php?route=product/category&path=7618_7654
Jó ez a defy+
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Bizony-bizony

erdnuesse said:
Thanks, but this thread is GB-based ROM's only.
I wanted to have a snappier / more responsive / smooth ROM instead of feature-rich slow/laggy ones. - See OP.
To clarify: 2.3.x-based ROM's only.
Thanks anyway.
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Last CM7 ROM`s Epsy is custom kernel & camera work.
But that rom have a wifi bug.
http://defy.wdscript.fr/defy-cm7-releases/
Sorry For english.

defy
ToMpI97 said:
Bizony-bizony
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jo de melyik megy onnan ?

jalal-jap said:
Last CM7 ROM`s Epsy is custom kernel & camera work.
But that rom have a wifi bug.
http://defy.wdscript.fr/defy-cm7-releases/
Sorry For english.
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M on build number 4.5.1-134_DFP-231, (BL7) Unable to install any of the custom gingerbread Rom, You said Epsy Last Rom worked for you... can u tell me which ROM and what was the wxact procedure. M stuck on stock ROM.. It's laggy and battery hungry.. So please any one can assist me out of here.

Niteeshkanungo said:
M on build number 4.5.1-134_DFP-231, (BL7) Unable to install any of the custom gingerbread Rom, You said Epsy Last Rom worked for you... can u tell me which ROM and what was the wxact procedure. M stuck on stock ROM.. It's laggy and battery hungry.. So please any one can assist me out of here.
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last Cm10.1 Quarx is good.
http://quarx2k.ru/cm10.1-nightly-defy+/2.6.32/cm-10.1-20130607-NIGHTLY-mb526.zip
CM7--> Set default boot to 2ndboot
http://defy.wdscript.fr/jordan-nightly/CM72-20121126-NIGHTLY-Defy.zip
CM9--> Set default boot to 2ndboot
http://defy.wdscript.fr/defyplus-cm9/CM9-NIGHTLY-121118-Defy+.zip.md5sum

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15073332
Confirmed working. :good:

Well, sorry for huuge delays, but I am now on MoKee 34.1 because Rom lags or responsiveness is no longer an issue on Android 4.3
(OK, i missed some features as well)
I might remove the restriction of GB based Roms, but basically every 2nd Boot Rom works so i might collect only Rom trees, no single versions. Any opinions on this?
Sent from my MB526 using xda app-developers app

I have BL7 and i have blocked for few days in rom 2.3.6 4.5.1-134_DFP-231.
Then i have rooted it by install fixed sbf, and found a good sbf MistyOS-BL7-4.1.2.sbf (if any one want it i will upload it)
this fixed sbf install CM10.1 and u can make it a start point to install CM10.2 and CM11
Now i have CM10.2 work fine, just battery charger only with computer

Help here!

I want to know if I need to install a custom rom or a custom kernel or a combination of both so that I can overclock my phone(1ghz single core). Please help. Why is everybody so silent here, so unwilling to answer a simple question as this. My fourth post of the same question.

hey dude....
todopertin said:
I want to know if I need to install a custom rom or a custom kernel or a combination of both so that I can overclock my phone(1ghz single core). Please help. Why is everybody so silent here, so unwilling to answer a simple question as this. My fourth post of the same question.
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if u install a custom rom it is obvious that a custom kernel will get installed automatically...
any way there is a app called setCpu that helps u overclocking the phone required your phone is rooted...
u can also use "seeder" an app that tries to add smothness to the kernel....

todopertin said:
I want to know if I need to install a custom rom or a custom kernel or a combination of both so that I can overclock my phone(1ghz single core). Please help. Why is everybody so silent here, so unwilling to answer a simple question as this. My fourth post of the same question.
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You would only require a custom kernel for your purposes.
anurag.dev1512 said:
if u install a custom rom it is obvious that a custom kernel will get installed automatically...
any way there is a app called setCpu that helps u overclocking the phone required your phone is rooted...
u can also use "seeder" an app that tries to add smothness to the kernel....
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Custom ROMs can be built with stock kernels so that's not always true.

hey listen...
Anu6is said:
You would only require a custom kernel for your purposes.
Custom ROMs can be built with stock kernels so that's not always true.
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cyanogen offers cpu overcloacking but stock kernel doesnot offer this stuff..
if u build cyanogen with stock kernel then rom wont be smooth....

anurag.dev1512 said:
cyanogen offers cpu overcloacking but stock kernel doesnot offer this stuff..
if u build cyanogen with stock kernel then rom wont be smooth....
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The question asked did not specify a specific ROM. The question was what would be required to perform OC. What is required is a custom kernel that allows tweaking. Telling someone if they install a custom ROM they automatically get a custom kernel is misinformation.

plzzz be clear
Anu6is said:
The question asked did not specify a specific ROM. The question was what would be required to perform OC. What is required is a custom kernel that allows tweaking. Telling someone if they install a custom ROM they automatically get a custom kernel is misinformation.
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i think u need to read the question properly..
he is asking about custom kernel and rom as well....
if u use stock kernel then it would work only with aosp based roms with only minor changes not the change that allows processor tweaking...
and one more thing the stock kernels used to be part of custom roms of gingerbread ...