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Desire Z or Desire? Which one to get?

Hello
I have the choice between the Desire Z and the Desire for the same price, but I can't decide on which one to get. I have tried both, and the Desire Z was really nice, but what concerns me is that the Z-hinge seemed like it could break a bit easy, and it also seemed a bit wobbly when the phone lay flat.

The Desire is almost a year older than the Z, with inferior CPU, GPU and RAM specs. For the same price, I'd say the Desire is not a real contender compared to the Z. I'd consider the Desire HD, if its available in your market and you don't like the keyboard on the Desire Z. Otherwise, just get over the keyboard design. Nobody has yet to break the hinge from normal usage, AFAIK. If the screen is wobbly with the keyboard open, its a defective unit. Mine is solid and doesn't move.

This is a nobrainer. If all else was equal, the keyboard ALWAYS wins. As it happens though, even if you ignore the keyboard, the VISION is STILL far superior.
Before I bought mine, I had similar concerns about the hinge, and read all the nonsense written on this forum about hinge problems. I then went to rat shak to *look* at one and found a nasty and non-functional piece of cheap plastic, and I really hated it... but figured I might as well go for it since there is nothing else even REMOTELY up there AND having a keyboard. (I ****REFUSE**** to own a phone without a keyboard!) -- so went to a tmobile store (rat shak charges extra $50... WTF?).... which had a REAL unit on their demo shelf.... and it was good, so bought one.
And studying it for a good while, its pretty much built like a tank. The hinge is a little weird, but sturdy. If it did break, since YOU apparently don't consider the keyboard to be a make-or-break feature, you could always glue it shut (wait until AFTER it breaks though, might as well use the keyboard while it is still good ).

Does wildfire come with screen protector on?

i cant tell whether ther is one on or not.
can someone please confirm.
im asking because i only found out my t-mobile pulse had a screen protector when it smashed one day.

My factory sealed Wildfire did not come with a screen protector.

Mine didn't have one on it

Mine had one one it which had all writing on it to tell me to take it off. I just went and purchased an invisibleshield after that.

just the factory warning one with remove before use on mine

My son has a Wildfire and it had no screenprotector in the box, only the thin plastic wich should be removed.

You really dont need one, it has a freakin gorilla glass
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My factory sealed Wildfire with a screen protector.

analurgy said:
You really dont need one, it has a freakin gorilla glass
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I don`t think it has Gorilla Glass.

According to gsmarena, it does.
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According to GSMArena, the Wildfire has an Adreno 200 GPU, the same unit as on the Desire. So, I wouldn't go by what GSMArena says on the Wildfire, even though it is probably the mobile site of my choice.

nicky041192 said:
According to gsmarena, it does.
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According to me, it doesnt. When i bought it, i had to wait 3 days to get an invisibleshield protector, and i got a small almost unnoticeable scratch on there during that 3 day period, even tough i kept my wildfire in Golla pouch.

nicky041192 said:
According to gsmarena, it does.
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GSMArena sometimes messes up the specs on some phones...

Neither does mines

Mipery said:
According to me, it doesnt. When i bought it, i had to wait 3 days to get an invisibleshield protector, and i got a small almost unnoticeable scratch on there during that 3 day period, even tough i kept my wildfire in Golla pouch.
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According to Corning, the manufacturer of the gorilla glass, it does!
http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/featured-products

louiscypherbr said:
According to Corning, the manufacturer of the gorilla glass, it does!
http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/featured-products
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Now that`s interesting....
Funny thing, it was never a selling point for the Wildfire, like it was for other phones.

I put on a screen protector and after a week or two there is a big scratch on it that makes the touch feel much less smooth. I end up replacing it with a new one every three weeks or so.
Is this normal to do that?

Supercluster said:
I put on a screen protector and after a week or two there is a big scratch on it that makes the touch feel much less smooth. I end up replacing it with a new one every three weeks or so.
Is this normal to do that?
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No. I am still using a Screen Protector I put back in November last year.

Supercluster said:
I put on a screen protector and after a week or two there is a big scratch on it that makes the touch feel much less smooth. I end up replacing it with a new one every three weeks or so.
Is this normal to do that?
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Maybe you are using cheap, 3 for 2$ screen protectors. Those are pretty much crap.

Mine actually came with 2
One on the bottom (which attacts finger prints like ****)
And one above that one which was quite rigid when I had to take it off.

Gorilla glass on Evo?

Just read an article that claims HTC evo 4g has gorilla glass and gives the following link as evidence... can anybody confirm this or is that some PhotoShop magic.... and does having gorilla glass mean we can remove screen protectors?
http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/#featured-products
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No that's incorrect it doesn't have gorilla glass. Why don't you test it and find out!
~ d3rk

From the sheer number of shattered screens that have come into my store, I can soundly say that no, the Evo does not have gorilla glass. Whatever "proof" is offered is completely wrong.

starkillers said:
Just read an article that claims HTC evo 4g has gorilla glass and gives the following link as evidence... can anybody confirm this or is that some PhotoShop magic.... and does having gorilla glass mean we can remove screen protectors?
http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/#featured-products
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Are you referring to this article: http://www.tgdaily.com/mobility-features/55330-htcs-sensation-is-one-tricked-out-4g-smartphone
It's the HTC Sensation for T-Mobile. It allegedly will have gorilla glass.

I chuckled at where it says the HTC Hero has gorilla glass.... not...

Stuke00 said:
I chuckled at where it says the HTC Hero has gorilla glass.... not...
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Really, this is the legit website for gorilla glass and they don't have information that is even close to correct.

Why are people claiming it doesn't have Gorilla Glass? If Corning says it does, what makes you think it doesn't?
Gorilla Glass is strong but it's not unbreakable.

Mine cracked from a fall of ~12". Evo has been out for almost a year and I've never heard anyone else claim it has gorilla glass.

FEATURED PRODUCTS
Corning® Gorilla® Glass is used by more than 30 major brands and has been designed into more than 350 product models. Today there are more than 200 million devices with Gorilla Glass being used by consumers around the world. Due to customer agreements, we cannot identify all devices that feature Gorilla Glass. Your favorite device may include Gorilla Glass, even if you don't see it listed. Ask your manufacturer or retailer to learn more.
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From there website , interesting

Maybe Gorilla Glass is or will be used on newer EVO 4G models... Or they just want bragging rights!

If the Evo actually does have Gorilla Glass, just means that the I'm unimpressed.

http://youtu.be/cEN0iIzsiIo
this poor evo musta been terrified.

gilbydakid said:
http://youtu.be/cEN0iIzsiIo
this poor evo musta been terrified.
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That video didn't convince me, I wanted to see him stab it like other videos lol
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Dunno be nice if they did on the newer 0004 and so on lol.

I've dropped my phone enough to be convinced there is gorilla glass on here, end I've never had a screen protector. Not one scratch and almost a year how.
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[Q] How anti fingerprint is the Galaxy Nexus?

Hey guys,
I am planning on jumping ship, I am just curious if the screen is a fingerprint magnet, or does it repel finger prints like the new screens which have special oleophobic coatings on them?
Also all around the device, does it feel sturdy or just plasticy as the Galaxy S2? is the body a finger print magnet as well?
Thanks a lot in advance guys,
Cheers

jackie_jagger said:
Hey guys,
I am planning on jumping ship, I am just curious if the screen is a fingerprint magnet, or does it repel finger prints like the new screens which have special oleophobic coatings on them?
Also all around the device, does it feel sturdy or just plasticy as the Galaxy S2? is the body a finger print magnet as well?
Thanks a lot in advance guys,
Cheers
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You better do it quick - Christmas is coming up and there won`t be enough phones for everybody to buy.
Its hard to explain, but its quite less fingerprint magnetic compared to iPhone 4. Device feels posh and solid from front, but back is plastic and feels a bit cheap. I`m not also fan of this "snake skin" pattern.

rbs_uk said:
You better do it quick - Christmas is coming up and there won`t be enough phones for everybody to buy.
Its hard to explain, but its quite less fingerprint magnetic compared to iPhone 4. Device feels posh and solid from front, but back is plastic and feels a bit cheap. I`m not also fan of this "snake skin" pattern.
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lesser than iPhone 4 sounds fantastic, because I currently own a HTC Desire and a LG Optimus 3D which, well too seem to collect a lot of fingerprints on the screen. I know there are options of using an anti fingerprint screen protectors, but I simply don't want to degrade the experience of that gorgeous screen.
I will keep that in mind *places order now* xD
Thanks a lot for taking time out to reply,
Cheers

The Galaxy Nexus, like the Nexus S before it, has an oleophobic coating on the screen.

jackie_jagger said:
Hey guys,
I am planning on jumping ship, I am just curious if the screen is a fingerprint magnet, or does it repel finger prints like the new screens which have special oleophobic coatings on them?
Also all around the device, does it feel sturdy or just plasticy as the Galaxy S2? is the body a finger print magnet as well?
Thanks a lot in advance guys,
Cheers
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I'm also in Dubai.. where are you planning on getting the Nexus from? I contacted Samsung and a few retailers but they don't have a clue to when they phone will arrive. If the SGS2 release is any indication, it will take 2 more months to get here!

I'm finding that the screen doesn't have a lot of fingerprints left on. I don't usually leave as much fingerprints as most other people anyway (I have pretty dry hands) but compared to other touchscreen devices I have it is leaving noticeably less fingerprints.
As for the rest of the body, the phones doesn't have a glossy finish so there will be no fingerprints at all. From what I have compared to my friend's S2, the device feels similar in the hand in terms of weight and shape, as they are both "plastic" phones.
Having said that I tend to disagree with people who say plastic phones feel cheap compared to metal phones. The Galaxy Nexus feels pretty solid and premium in my hand, with no creaky plastics or awkward edges. Sure it doesn't have the weight you get with metal but I'm not sure why having a heavy phone is a good thing.
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Chrono_Tata said:
Having said that I tend to disagree with people who say plastic phones feel cheap compared to metal phones. The Galaxy Nexus feels pretty solid and premium in my hand, with no creaky plastics or awkward edges. Sure it doesn't have the weight you get with metal but I'm not sure why having a heavy phone is a good thing.
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This.
I was worried about the feel of the phone too after coming from an HTC Desire but I'm glad I made the move as it feels solid and very well made.
Rik.
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I agree, i came from a Nexus One and loved the build of that and was a bit hesitant about the Galaxy's plastic build but it does feel solid. My sister has an S2 and IMO the Nexus feels and looks a much better build quiality, also the colouring of it makes it not feel as plastic.
I still would of preferred a metal backing to the device but i'm not dissapointed with the way it is.

For my part:The device feels solid, well built, classy. This compares to the Optimus Black (my outgoing device) which had all those qualities, but felt somehow 'less premium', The device before that was the Desire HD - a metal phone that was so badly built it was thrown back, the device before that the first Desire, reasonably well made, slightly plasticy button feel! and before that the Hero - felt bulletproof at the time!
Fingerprints: My better-half has the 4S ... "much less fingerprints than the iPhone" her words, not mine!
A friend has the Galaxy S2, handling it for a few hours around a month ago - is why I waited for the Galaxy Nexus!!

I heard rubbing RainX on it once a week will eliminate fingerprints.
Good to know about the coating. My Asus Transformer was nasty until I threw on a nifty screen protector (I wanted one anyway for that 10 incher). I've never tried RainX. My G2x stays pretty clean.

oscillik said:
The Galaxy Nexus, like the Nexus S before it, has an oleophobic coating on the screen.
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This is great news, thanks !
gabster21 said:
I'm also in Dubai.. where are you planning on getting the Nexus from? I contacted Samsung and a few retailers but they don't have a clue to when they phone will arrive. If the SGS2 release is any indication, it will take 2 more months to get here!
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Sources have indicated a mid December launch if you are looking at an official one, but I'm sure it will cost about ~2.6k+ when it does, pick it up from expansys.ae
Chrono_Tata said:
I'm finding that the screen doesn't have a lot of fingerprints left on. I don't usually leave as much fingerprints as most other people anyway (I have pretty dry hands) but compared to other touchscreen devices I have it is leaving noticeably less fingerprints.
As for the rest of the body, the phones doesn't have a glossy finish so there will be no fingerprints at all. From what I have compared to my friend's S2, the device feels similar in the hand in terms of weight and shape, as they are both "plastic" phones.
Having said that I tend to disagree with people who say plastic phones feel cheap compared to metal phones. The Galaxy Nexus feels pretty solid and premium in my hand, with no creaky plastics or awkward edges. Sure it doesn't have the weight you get with metal but I'm not sure why having a heavy phone is a good thing.
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^ this clears all my doubts, I also do tend to wipe the screen after every use, and now seeing there are barely any prints I am happy !!
Build quality was something I was having doubts about, but I guess they seem to have nailed it this time.
aindow said:
This.
I was worried about the feel of the phone too after coming from an HTC Desire but I'm glad I made the move as it feels solid and very well made.
Rik.
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I too am moving from the Desire to this, tbh, do you miss the smart dialer and other sense features?
dumb donkey said:
I agree, i came from a Nexus One and loved the build of that and was a bit hesitant about the Galaxy's plastic build but it does feel solid. My sister has an S2 and IMO the Nexus feels and looks a much better build quiality, also the colouring of it makes it not feel as plastic.
I still would of preferred a metal backing to the device but i'm not dissapointed with the way it is.
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I agree, metal backing would've been ace.
FatherD said:
For my part:The device feels solid, well built, classy. This compares to the Optimus Black (my outgoing device) which had all those qualities, but felt somehow 'less premium', The device before that was the Desire HD - a metal phone that was so badly built it was thrown back, the device before that the first Desire, reasonably well made, slightly plasticy button feel! and before that the Hero - felt bulletproof at the time!
Fingerprints: My better-half has the 4S ... "much less fingerprints than the iPhone" her words, not mine!
A friend has the Galaxy S2, handling it for a few hours around a month ago - is why I waited for the Galaxy Nexus!!
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This is great, in Nexus we trust.
player911 said:
I heard rubbing RainX on it once a week will eliminate fingerprints.
Good to know about the coating. My Asus Transformer was nasty until I threw on a nifty screen protector (I wanted one anyway for that 10 incher). I've never tried RainX. My G2x stays pretty clean.
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This is the first time I've heard of RainX doing that, but I think that is a bit of overkill lol !
Thank you everyone for your valuable feedback.
Cheers

I never had a Nexus One, so I cannot compare to that. I've had an HTC Magic and HTC Desire in the past, but I don't remember too much about fingerprints on them. I can say that the cases of the HTC's didn't show fingerprints at all (the Magic was white, so it would have never shown at any rate). I currently have a Samsung Galaxy S, and I can say that the Galaxy Nexus's screen is way way more fingerprint-resistant than the Galaxy S - I'm looking at them right now - the GN has one small smudge on it, and the GS is covered (screen-wise).
The GN case is matte, so it doesn't pick up fingerprints at all.

By sheer coincidence I ran into the Regional Manager for Samsung in the UAE - he was carrying a Samsung Note and I wanted a closer look so I approached him. He said the Note was being released in Dubai today (Nov 29th) at Dubai Mall. He also, with a lot more hesitation, said the Galaxy Nexus would be released too. I don't necessarily believe him, but I'm going to check it out. He said the event will be close to the Ice Rink at around 630-7

Juve88 said:
By sheer coincidence I ran into the Regional Manager for Samsung in the UAE - he was carrying a Samsung Note and I wanted a closer look so I approached him. He said the Note was being released in Dubai today (Nov 29th) at Dubai Mall. He also, with a lot more hesitation, said the Galaxy Nexus would be released too. I don't necessarily believe him, but I'm going to check it out. He said the event will be close to the Ice Rink at around 630-7
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Are you sure he was the regional manager of Samsung? The Note has been available in Dubai for at least a week, I've seen it in Virgin MOE and at the airport.

No I'm not sure..he didnt have a business card on him. I think he was referring to the actual release event. I am sure they had a soft release earlier. Also I just called Eros (Samsung dealer in Dubai) and they said the Nexus will be available in Jan - no specific date or price mentioned though.

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Juve88 said:
By sheer coincidence I ran into the Regional Manager for Samsung in the UAE - he was carrying a Samsung Note and I wanted a closer look so I approached him. He said the Note was being released in Dubai today (Nov 29th) at Dubai Mall. He also, with a lot more hesitation, said the Galaxy Nexus would be released too. I don't necessarily believe him, but I'm going to check it out. He said the event will be close to the Ice Rink at around 630-7
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that isn't possible, the launch date already passed, there is another event today - with regard to the Note - the Note World Tour, sadly I am not in the clear to give out the location of this event's location.
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Are you sure he was the regional manager of Samsung? The Note has been available in Dubai for at least a week, I've seen it in Virgin MOE and at the airport.
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Yes, I confirm, Note has been out for a while.
Juve88 said:
No I'm not sure..he didnt have a business card on him. I think he was referring to the actual release event. I am sure they had a soft release earlier. Also I just called Eros (Samsung dealer in Dubai) and they said the Nexus will be available in Jan - no specific date or price mentioned though.
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If you go by the way Samsung handles launches here, then yes, Jan is what you are looking at, I'm hearing a mid dec. launch from sources but then again, they tend to push the dates when they feel like. So I can't vouch for that.

Been using my new toy all day today and I can say WOOW - screen is really clean, very very little fingerprints even with my oily fingers. Impressive, well done Sammy!
iPhone 4 just looked terrible

[Q] Call quality and reception

Hi everyone.
I recently bought a Lumia 920, but is having some serious problems with the vibrator. I have exchanged the phone to a similar one, but I am going to Exchange this one too. I can't live with the Rattle.
I had the One S earlier, but I didn't like it because it had a static noise whenever I talked to someone, and had to lower the volume to a degree where I couldn't here them. Is that also a problem with the One X.? I know the One X uses a different processor than then One S, and probably a different chip for noise cancellation.?
And how is the reception on it.? Nokia is picking up 3G where I previosly couldn't with my iPhone, is the polycarbonat body helping the One X in similar way.?
Any help would be highly appriciated.

One X has none of the problems you just described. It's a nice phone, and only it's average battery life gets in the way.
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Ok. I looked at the One X at the store today, and if there really isn't any problems with it(despite battery) i'm going back to Android.
I do Work in a place with crappy coverage and was told the S3 was one of the worst, the store couldn't say if the X had that problem, but had never heard of it.

Just don't do it. The one x is the worst pos phone for build quality I have ever owned. Do some research and buy something decent like an s3
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I did some research, but couldn't find the answer I was looking for. There have been a research in Denmark, that tested the S3 and iPhone 5 to have the worst antennas, I am therefore a bit worried about exchanging it with the S3.
How bad is the quality of the One X, and what is wrong with it.?

I dont know what exactly the other user meant by "The one x is the worst pos phone for build quality I have ever owned.", but so far the One X is on my top list for design and material strength, bought my phone 6 months ago, barely any scratches on screen and 0 scratches on body(i've dropped it from 1 meter height around 5 times, indoors), the polycarbonate body is very flexible and there is a very thin coating of self-healing material (not sure about black model).
The problems with One X :
1- glass lens is a little loose and easily scratch-able
2- the phones signals (wifi/3G/GPS) go insanely bad if you apply bending forces on the phone.
3- screen is "bulging out" and if you drop the phone facedown on rough surface(asphalt/rocks) you will definitely break the screen. (which phone wont :S)

jmpmjmpm said:
Just don't do it. The one x is the worst pos phone for build quality I have ever owned. Do some research and buy something decent like an s3
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Are you seriously comparing One X build quality with the Galaxy S3 of all phones? No one compares build quality of any phone with Samsung. Period. Any Samsung phone, even if it has very good internal hardware, always feels like a cheap Chinese phone due to Samsung's inane choice of materials.
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Ok.
I exchanged it to a Samsung SG3 instead. Couldn't really decide, but I read that the One X had problems with WI-FI, and that really was the only thing that made me choose Samsung. Love the One X design and the SG3.
Thank you for your help, and as a note. If you consider buying the Lumia 920, don't. I went to 3 different stores, and they are all sending the remaining phones in as DOA because of the Rattle problem. Tried 6 phones and they all had the Rattle.

Damn, that's messed up. I didn't expect that from Nokia. How did they miss such an obvious issue during manufacturing?
One X doesn't have any major WiFi issues, at least none that I've noticed in daily usage. There was something about WiFi reception gaining/dropping if the back is flexed real hard (don't remember properly). But if you're a heavy phone user, and you use your phone a lot when you're outside and don't want to be crippled by battery, you did good by getting the SGS3.

sashank said:
Are you seriously comparing One X build quality with the Galaxy S3 of all phones? No one compares build quality of any phone with Samsung. Period. Any Samsung phone, even if it has very good internal hardware, always feels like a cheap Chinese phone due to Samsung's inane choice of materials.
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Erm, having owned both, yes I am. The one x is a true pos for build quality IMHO.
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