Goodbye Android! It's been fun! - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Android Development

I've been usin it for some time now, but i woke up with bad blocks today and i'm hopin i can go back to windows...
i've been usin scoot's cyanogen mod with system on nand and data on ext2 class 6 sd card... it was fun... but bad blocks aren't fun...
have i just lost all data on it? because it won't load anymore?
and can somebody recommend me some windows rom... i just want it to be fast, the look doesn't matter, because i will be using spb mobile shell...
thx!
good luck with android! i maybe try it some other time, when i get a new htc...

I am using ahmetfikry, and am very happy with it.
But still have android with Haret.
Best of both worlds

How many bad blocks?
What kernel were you using?

there are compromise between scoot cyanogen on 2.6.32 kernel an WM in term of stability : did you try kalt kaffe vanilj eclair with his custom 2.6.25 kernel
No bad block for a while here
The fact is that we have problem with today's androidonhtc both 25 and 32 kernel since they give bad stability (25 less than 32)

@fatiherdal
maybe i'll try haret, if it's really the best of both worlds
@modsRule
i don't know how many. the list was long. the last two were 451 and 471, but the first one wasn't 1 so i wouldn't say 400... i was using Clemsyn's kernel #63 at first, but then i installed another one, i'm not so sure anymore, i installed it about 2 months ago... it was a 32 with ext2
@chourmovs
i didn't try any other then cyanogen. it was stable enough. had some problems with calls, but not after installing the latest radio... it used to get slow, but not after uninstalling task killers... it was ok till last night. the music was playing, i fell asleep and in the mornig i saw the cyanogen logo, pressed reset, saw the bad blocks and that was it...
i just installed stock rom windows, all good...
still searching for the fastest windows rom... any suggestions?

what is the issue with bad block
very naive question but what is the issue if you have bad block?
I do see one bad block and also having trouble with android where I get the error like "Failed from sourcefrge" during first boot after installing it. Not sure if it is related to this.

dhalan said:
@chourmovs
i didn't try any other then cyanogen. it was stable enough. had some problems with calls, but not after installing the latest radio... it used to get slow, but not after uninstalling task killers... it was ok till last night. the music was playing, i fell asleep and in the mornig i saw the cyanogen logo, pressed reset, saw the bad blocks and that was it...
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Bad block are kernel related not rom relatd

dhalan said:
@fatiherdal
maybe i'll try haret, if it's really the best of both worlds
@modsRule
i don't know how many. the list was long. the last two were 451 and 471, but the first one wasn't 1 so i wouldn't say 400... i was using Clemsyn's kernel #63 at first, but then i installed another one, i'm not so sure anymore, i installed it about 2 months ago... it was a 32 with ext2
@chourmovs
i didn't try any other then cyanogen. it was stable enough. had some problems with calls, but not after installing the latest radio... it used to get slow, but not after uninstalling task killers... it was ok till last night. the music was playing, i fell asleep and in the mornig i saw the cyanogen logo, pressed reset, saw the bad blocks and that was it...
i just installed stock rom windows, all good...
still searching for the fastest windows rom... any suggestions?
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Try Kaiser Touch by af974. I tried few WM's and this one seems the best one in my opinion. Its not very fast but is really stable and can be used without stilus.

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"SCC" (Superstorage Crash Club)

If you experiment Unexpected Freeze in splash screen, and only a hard reset (sometime not) will fix the problem, and you are using a SuperStorage ROM:
Welcome to the: "SCC" (Superstorage Crash Club)
For more information: here, or here, or here, or you can post your personal experience.
At the moment, the club have 3 member... Those who want to join as?
I ended up making myself a Big Storage ROM instead of SS. Havent had any major problems out of the Big Storage yet either.
I have problems too.. SuperStorage ROMs are not stable at all.. too many problems with those..
The thing is.. if you want a lot of storage space, go buy Kaiser..
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I have problems too.. SuperStorage ROMs are not stable at all.. too many problems with those..
The thing is.. if you want a lot of storage space, go buy Kaiser..
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Or a Micro SD card would work fine for *most* people
But agreed... kaizer is the way to go if you need more ROM Storage
I tried SuperStorage, andit was great. After a few days though, some of my program icons changed to blank icons and stopped working. A soft reset later, and the phone freezes at startup. This happened with a cooked and a Pandora ROM. Tired a non-SuperStorage Pandora ROM and it's Extended ROM was unstable - it kept losing everything I saved in it for no reason. Installed vp3g's WM6 ROM, then another Pandora and my Extended ROM has been stable since.
While I applaud the expert who managed to come up with SuperStorage, I think it's just that one step too far for our phones at the moment. Shame.
I tried one Superstorage and it was very unstable. But the chefs cooking them deserve credit for trying to develope...they will keep fine tuning them.
I have been using t-lite for a long time. no crashes, no problems. didn't freeze even once. but there are some memory leak problems.
ok, let's join the group also. in such a manner i don't feel alone.
happen to my buddys phone too.. SUCKS!
Ive used a handful of big storage and super storage ROMs (around 5) and have only experienced memory leaks, no crashes. But the leaks are enough to keep me away
edhaas's super d-lite
Do a search for Super d-lite. Not only is it a super-storage rom, it is the most stable rom of any type that I know about.
It seems from some of the posts I have read that the superstorage roms that are going bad are based on the new 3.62. T-lite, as burkay posted is solid and based on T-mobile's 3.60, and Super D-lite is a hybrid between that and the one before (3.54?).
Perhaps you guys are barking up the wrong tree.
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Do a search for Super d-lite. Not only is it a super-storage rom, it is the most stable rom of any type that I know about.
It seems from some of the posts I have read that the superstorage roms that are going bad are based on the new 3.62. T-lite, as burkay posted is solid and based on T-mobile's 3.60, and Super D-lite is a hybrid between that and the one before (3.54?).
Perhaps you guys are barking up the wrong tree.
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Tried also edhaas super d-lite and it had as well the same freezing issues as all
other superstorage roms I tried before. This is obviously not a kind
of issue in the ROMs themselves, but maybe a problem of several
devices floating around having flash memory cell problems (or
something like that). As you know I have created an own superstorage
rom and have same problems with freezing after some time of using
whilst many other people use exactly THIS rom for weeks now and
say it is awesome stable and have no problems at all. Myself ended up
in creating a big storage rom and use it stable since install. I though
use the extended rom space (unlocked) but with muuuuuuch care and
I feel not very comfortable with install programs in the extended rom
area.
With mtty.exe I discovered some bad blocks and maybe this is the key.
They can be recovered and show good now, but I am not sure if they
stay green now. There's some hints around how to recover. I posted
in one of the Shamanix threads (task 2a and so on). Maybe one could
point to the post and all affected people could run the test and post the
results.
Olioaglio
BTW: Great idea with the club, diezoo !! Maybe with the help of some others
the cause of the problem will be digged.
i've been running edhaas' super d'lite for a month now with zero issues.
venelar said:
i've been running edhaas' super d'lite for a month now with zero issues.
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As I said before... I am pretty sure edhaas' and also my own
superstorage rom is absolutely OK out of the box.
IMO the issues are the devices on which they are flashed.
Olioaglio
stuck in splash screen with pandora naked 6 version, but didnt stuck with pandora naked 5 nonbigstorage version..

htc hermes lag???

the problem I have is anytime I open anything theres a lag of 1 to 3 seconds at times. when I type it takes 1-2 seconds for it to catch up with what I had typed. its getting real annoying and don't have much programs open, is there some kind of tweak that can fix this. it would really turn my productivity up ten folds... thanks
ezsoulja said:
the problem I have is anytime I open anything theres a lag of 1 to 3 seconds at times. when I type it takes 1-2 seconds for it to catch up with what I had typed. its getting real annoying and don't have much programs open, is there some kind of tweak that can fix this. it would really turn my productivity up ten folds... thanks
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yea dude, flash a new rom, what happened is your windows directory got loaded and is slowing down the preformance on your entire ppc.. some of the newer roms have fixed this.
but se I had recently flashed over to crc's 14.1.
ezsoulja said:
but se I had recently flashed over to crc's 14.1.
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when you open file explorer and browse into windows directory. how long does it take to load?
CRC is usually fully loaded, hence it will be slow. Try a lite ROM and see if you have any performance difference.
ai6908 said:
CRC is usually fully loaded, hence it will be slow. Try a lite ROM and see if you have any performance difference.
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this could thoretically happen on a light rom also, if he were to install allot of apps that are heavy on installing to the windows directory.
joshkoss said:
this could thoretically happen on a light rom also, if he were to install allot of apps that are heavy on installing to the windows directory.
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Agreed, performance goes down once you start installing many applications or quit flashing for a few days
Wasn't it with CRC's roms that Odd numbered roms were the stable roms and even numbered roms were in developement?
Could be using a developement rom that has a few bugs to be worked out....
Cheers...
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CRC is usually fully loaded, hence it will be slow. Try a lite ROM and see if you have any performance difference.
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Just use CRC r13, its stable and more performance than r14.1
Visit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387990
im currently running now 13.0 stable but still the same, is there something within the registry i can do or something or could it be the auto word completion thing?
i do have quite some software on my phone but majority of them are utility programs that help me clean and or tweak my settings.
i dont wanna crank up my core speed as that will already kill the juice of my battery of what little i do get out of the day,
Use advanced config to make sure you are running with .net framework 3.5... I found a few of the newer roms have it listed as "disabled"...
I can confirm this slowdown. I tried different roms with and w/o manilla 2d interface. Recently, there has been a weird change in the codebase that causes an extreme slowdown in some applications. For example, I am a regular POWDER player, which is an awesome roguelike game. a month or two ago, I had no problems playing POWDER. But the last few roms gave me great trouble. Now the game freezes every 5-10 seconds for a few seconds. I know there is something wrong with the roms because the game is the same game I played 2 months ago. And I don't install many applications to use /windows directory. actually, I install almost nothing and this slow down hits even without installing any applications.
I always use naked roms, but recently there has been a serious lack of them. The reason "may" be the sort of bloated roms. I just hope that somebody comes with a truly naked (.net only) rom so that we can test this hypothesis.
I guess I found the source of the problem. fonts. extra fonts.
One of the programs I install by default after every flash puts three different fonts into the \windows folder. I renamed these fonts and restarted the pda. The annoying slowdown when playing POWDER is now almost gone. Once in a while it still gives me a short freeze, but these freezes are not as frequent as before. The game is much more playable now.
by the way, when I was wandering through my windows folder, I realized that there are an enourmous number of youtube files in it. How unfortunate, because I never use the youtube application. Appearantly, too much storage space is wasted for a program that I never use. I will definitely consider a non-youtube non-manilla non-htchome ROM for the next flash.
burkay said:
I can confirm this slowdown. I tried different roms with and w/o manilla 2d interface. Recently, there has been a weird change in the codebase that causes an extreme slowdown in some applications. For example, I am a regular POWDER player, which is an awesome roguelike game. a month or two ago, I had no problems playing POWDER. But the last few roms gave me great trouble. Now the game freezes every 5-10 seconds for a few seconds. I know there is something wrong with the roms because the game is the same game I played 2 months ago. And I don't install many applications to use /windows directory. actually, I install almost nothing and this slow down hits even without installing any applications.
I always use naked roms, but recently there has been a serious lack of them. The reason "may" be the sort of bloated roms. I just hope that somebody comes with a truly naked (.net only) rom so that we can test this hypothesis.
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here is a very naked 20924 build for you to test your theory on dude! it's still beta but will be release soon
http://captfiero.com/roms/joshkoss/Tests/V11_Light3G.rar
joshkoss said:
here is a very naked 20924 build for you to test your theory on dude! it's still beta but will be release soon
http://captfiero.com/roms/joshkoss/Tests/V11_Light3G.rar
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downloading... it is sort of late now to flash and test but I will do it first thing tomorrow morning.
burkay said:
downloading... it is sort of late now to flash and test but I will do it first thing tomorrow morning.
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ok, couldn't wait till morning. I have been testing the rom for last hour and oh God!... this is the best, fastest, most stable ROM I have flashed in a while. I installed my regular set of software and it is still lightning fast. the windows directory loads in under a second. Probably something like 0.3 seconds!!! All applications are so responsive and everything works so fast, I am finding it difficult to not to cry. Let's see what will happen after a couple of days. But seriously, my hermes hasn't been this awesome for the last two months.
the links not working
Look around, there are a heap of Lite roms available at the moment... Try Darkvision or Tai_SW's rom... Just to name a couple...
I'm following... so heres my idea. I'm not gonna flash my phone just yet (I got a good rom working on it), but...
Can someone either point me to an ultra light rom that has titanium home, or possibly explain how to get titanium onto a non-titanium rom? I know thats like asking "how do you build an engine" or something, but is there a good starting point?
All I want is a rom thats fast, has titanium home, and has the Touchflo 2d phone skin (for big fingers).
P.S>. Why do roms slow down over time for no reason? I've noticed the latest crop of 6.5 roms run good for a day or two, then start going REALLY slow. I can't nail it down.. I try Oxios but it doesn't help. I'm not installing anything either. The honeycomb gets jerky, the "red end button" starts getting a lag / not working at all, etc.
Thanks.

Cyanogenmod 7 vs Oxygen 2.0

Hi,
Im nog allowed to post this link in the development section, so im sorry if its wrong here. Can anyone tell me the differences between the CM7 rom and the oxygen rom? What are the pro's and con's of each rom? Tried a lot of google searches, but couldnt find it.
Patrick
still_the_same said:
Hi,
Im nog allowed to post this link in the development section, so im sorry if its wrong here. Can anyone tell me the differences between the CM7 rom and the oxygen rom? What are the pro's and con's of each rom? Tried a lot of google searches, but couldnt find it.
Patrick
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Depends if you want a technical explanation or simple?
As simple as it gets.. Nothing!
They are both GREAT Rom's by GREAT developers. However, they are also BOTH in "pre-stable" release status. This doesnt mean they arent stable, actually they are both insanely stable. It just means neither is a "Final Product"
Both share most of the same basic features and neither really has a downside or drawbacks.. it's all personal preference. I LOVED Oxygen when I was running it, but for me, the new features/tweaks/bugfixes of the CM7 nightlies just drew me in
Both have their own HBOOT, both support A2SD (though Cm7 is a seperate flashable zip) and both have a pretty stable following as far as theme support..
It really just comes down to you.. read through the threads/changelogs and see if one draws your attention more than the other.. remember, once you are rooted, it only takes a minute or two to flash a new ROM.. if you dont like the one you choose, try the other.
I find that CM7 actually works. I can't get Oxygen to install at all. The download messes up so the md5 is a mismatch and as such, when installed it doesn't. Just returns a bad request. But as mikeandjaimie said, there are very little differences. To be honest, you can't get someone to tell you what is better or not. It is down to you. Your own preference. Try them both out for a little bit and see which you like.
I've tried both over the last week (tried GingerVillain too) and I prefer Oxygen out of the 2 you mentioned. it's very basic, but I really like it. only had a problem with the Launcher Pro calendar widget, but everything else works fine. On CM I had some bad battery drain, but other people like it.
I actually managed to get Oxygen to work today and I am testing it a bit. Obviously there are still going to be bugs around but it's pretty stable. Oxygen is minimal. It uses the default Android launcher whereas CM7 uses ADWLauncher. I can't really tell the difference between them both really. Like I said above it is down to preference. There are no real differences at all.
mikeandjaimie said:
Both share most of the same basic features and neither really has a downside or drawbacks.. it's all personal preference. I LOVED Oxygen when I was running it, but for me, the new features/tweaks/bugfixes of the CM7 nightlies just drew me in
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What features do you prefer in CM7 as opposed to oxygen?
...just interested
Well I haven't used oxygen in a bit, but they hadn't added any of the CM specific tweaks and features yet.. mostly stuff like gestures, etc.
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CM patches are used for pretty much everything in Oxygen, so most features are alike. I like both, but prefer bleeding edge so CM nightlies FTW
Sent from a piece of ginger bread... Now with a little cyan tint
I have never used oxygen roms but its my first time to cyanogenmod 7 roms ever and I can say I am more then happy, I am have been using the first build nightly for well over a week now and its been absolutely fine, the only thing that does not work is video recording which but everyone is pre-warned about that until the nexus one files get dropped in.
Just flashed to 24th Feb nightly and still no hiccups, not getting the battery drain issues like people are posting, but there is no noticeable decrease or increase for me compared to the previous O2 branded froyo build.
what about ginger villain?
Haven't used CM7, but if you want a fast and lightweight ROM with excellent battery life (see the battery saving mods) then you cannot go wrong with Oxygen
Moreover,tt looks like now that the nexus one OTA has been extracted we will see a stable version of Oxygen very soon, so the problems with the Camcorder on RC7 (the dev didn't want any hacks in the ROM since he wanted it to be as stable as possible) will be ironed out!
Do both these have Bluetooth gamepad support
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would love to see some posts with info about what made someone to move from one mod to another
(just a bump)
I loved Oxygen, loved it. Very fast and minimal allowing me to add to it the way I see fit, the way it should be really. Problem was I was one of the few that experienced bootloops constantly. On average once a day. Sometimes it would go into a boot loop at idle, and I wouldn't notice for over an hour, and by the time I got it back on, the screen being on and displaying the boot animation had drained some serious battery.
So I tried Ginger Villian, I had the same issue with bootloops, so I tried redux. I was quite happy with it, except it didn't work as a phone. It dropped calls every few minutes to multiple numbers, and it refused to send or recieve mms (Yes I checked the APNs). That's when I decided to try CM7, and found that it just works for me where the others didn't. Yes it's a little more heavily featured than I would like, yes it can be a bit laggy and slow every now and then, but it's the stability and reliability that keeps me here for the moment.
I wasn't S-Off when running Oxygen though, so I will delete the ext partition on my SD card and reinstall Oxygen with the oxygen hboot to see if maybe it makes a difference. Something must, there's a lot of people out there claiming to have never had a boot loop, though I would miss the T-Mobile theme enginge that CM7 ships with.
Probably more than you wanted to hear, but that's basically what made me jump from Oxygen to CM.
i really love a stable rom. that's why i prefer cyanogen and used cm6 for a long time. but i also want the latest android version. that's why i use oxygen at the moment until cm7 becomes "FINAL".
the most important thing about cm is that they do not modify the rom all the time. they create a rom, they test it as beta/rc (ONLY for bugfixing - no new (maybe buggy) features all the time) and one day you get a final rom which is no longer changed and STABLE.
I used CM6.1 for quite some time, I love AOSP ROMs, Ultralinx persuaded me to try Oxygen RC2 and I changed HBOOT to go with it. I love the minimalist, hack free aspect of the ROM. And because Oxygen 2.0.1 is so stable and lightweight, and that I can't be bothered to change HBOOT again I think I am going to stick with Oxygen until I am due to upgrade phones.
I used Oxygen since I first rooted, it was a froyo rom, but I used it all the way up to the most recent version. Today I tried cyanogenmod, just to see what differences (if any) there were.
So far, I've noticed the for a2sd+ on cm, you need to flash an additional script. But the main benefit of cm is that I can, for the first time since rooting, send mms again. I could receive them on oxygen no problem, but couldn't for the life send them. Definite benefit for me there.
hidinginthebush said:
I used Oxygen since I first rooted, it was a froyo rom, but I used it all the way up to the most recent version. Today I tried cyanogenmod, just to see what differences (if any) there were.
So far, I've noticed the for a2sd+ on cm, you need to flash an additional script. But the main benefit of cm is that I can, for the first time since rooting, send mms again. I could receive them on oxygen no problem, but couldn't for the life send them. Definite benefit for me there.
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Sorry of topic now but:
What do you mean by flashing a script for the app2sd? I only have a app called S2E, and an ext3 partition. And that app does the job, just by restarting my phone the apps moves to the ext3. But I do realize that my internalmemory goes down when I have a lot of apps. Like now i got 96 mb free. Am I doin it right?
Thanks
xziaz said:
Sorry of topic now but:
What do you mean by flashing a script for the app2sd? I only have a app called S2E, and an ext3 partition. And that app does the job, just by restarting my phone the apps moves to the ext3. But I do realize that my internalmemory goes down when I have a lot of apps. Like now i got 96 mb free. Am I doin it right?
Thanks
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Less than a minute of searching:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10675412&postcount=2
xziaz said:
Sorry of topic now but:
What do you mean by flashing a script for the app2sd? I only have a app called S2E, and an ext3 partition. And that app does the job, just by restarting my phone the apps moves to the ext3. But I do realize that my internalmemory goes down when I have a lot of apps. Like now i got 96 mb free. Am I doin it right?
Thanks
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If you haven't moved your dalvik cache to SD then your internal memory will decrease. Dalvik takes up so much storage space.

[Q] Are the relatively newer ROMS too heavy for Desire Z ?

Hi guys,
I have question regarding my HTC Desire Z .. Ever since I rooted the phone about 1.5 years ago, and have been trying out the newer ROMs, I've slowly realized that my phone is getting slower, slower, and slower .. I'm currently using a Jellybean ROM, and its *extremely* slow ! I mean, at times I receive a call, and the ringer rings about 5-6 times, and during all this time, the phone doesn't have the juice to switch to the phone app, so that I can 'accept' the call ! Ultimately the call disconnects itself!
A friend recently suggested to me that maybe the newer ROMs are two powerful for my phone, and that I need to move to an older Android version ROM, which my Desire Z CAN handle, without this much lag !
Also, I hardly have any apps installed on my phone at all, in an attempt to keep the load low .. I also use 'Advance Task Killer' regularly to kill background apps, but it doesn't really improve anything ..
What can I do to improve the speed of my phone !? I really pisses me off to see a 10-15 second lag when I call someone !
Get rid of the task killer first of all...
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i own desire z. installed flinnys 128 (jb) and everything works EXTREMELY smooth! no lag!!!!
just try it!
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Get rid of the task killer first of all...
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Task Killer is not the issue, as I only installed it the other day .. The condition was same before as well ..
d_gkal said:
i own desire z. installed flinnys 128 (jb) and everything works EXTREMELY smooth! no lag!!!!
just try it!
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I dont think it will make any difference .. I've tried many different ROMs, and its always the same condition with all ... Sometimes my phone become *so* unresponsive that I just feel like smashing it on the ground ! (When I really get upset!)
Also, on another note, when I open Advanced Task Killer, it shows me the amount of free RAM on the top .. Most of the times this value is between 60 MB ~ 100 MB, and sometimes between 100 MB ~ 140 MB .. If never seen this value go above 135 MB or so ... And Desire Z is supposed to have 512 MB of RAM
just full wipe and reflash the rom
d_gkal said:
just full wipe and reflash the rom
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If I do that, it will initially be fast .. Even if I install all my apps on the first day, it will still be okay in terms of speed ... But give it a week, it eventually becomes slow .. very slow! .. And the odd thing is, during this week, I don't necessary install/uninstall anything .. the phone just ****s itself in somehow ... And then from then on, it remains slow, no matter what ...
I open Google Maps, takes like 15 seconds to open .. takes another 60 seconds to go to Google Navigation, and then further lags after that ..
Basically there's a lag in *everything* !
Is there a way I can see what is slowing down the phone ?!
Also, is it true or not whether an older phone, such as Desire Z, can or cannot handle a relatively newer Android version ROM ? Maybe this is why the latest Android versions are NOT officially available for phones many times, because the manufacturer knows the device cannot handle that newer Android version ?
If your rom supports ext partitions, make sure all of yours are formatted that way. Chances are you have sopme bad apps, a logcat may hedlp determin abused wake locks or memory leaks. Also you can try downloading battery batt stats or watchdog for more infor
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ahmadka said:
Hi guys,
I have question regarding my HTC Desire Z .. Ever since I rooted the phone about 1.5 years ago, and have been trying out the newer ROMs, I've slowly realized that my phone is getting slower, slower, and slower .. I'm currently using a Jellybean ROM, and its *extremely* slow ! I mean, at times I receive a call, and the ringer rings about 5-6 times, and during all this time, the phone doesn't have the juice to switch to the phone app, so that I can 'accept' the call ! Ultimately the call disconnects itself!
A friend recently suggested to me that maybe the newer ROMs are two powerful for my phone, and that I need to move to an older Android version ROM, which my Desire Z CAN handle, without this much lag !
Also, I hardly have any apps installed on my phone at all, in an attempt to keep the load low .. I also use 'Advance Task Killer' regularly to kill background apps, but it doesn't really improve anything ..
What can I do to improve the speed of my phone !? I really pisses me off to see a 10-15 second lag when I call someone !
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i had a play with elitemod ics the other day & it was defiantly slower than the GB version... it was using more or less double the ram which i suspect is the real problem.....
Yes its true the newer versions are more hungry. We touched on it in one of the andromadus threads recently. I believe the issue to be the cpu. The nexus s has the same amount of ram as us and although its not as good on there as the gnex, its still good. Having bumped my lower cpu limit a notch, its much better. I also tried a few upper limits and found that 1200 to be best as it suffers with animation under that.
But then all dz's are different. Stay on your rom and bump up the lower limits a few clicks and let us know what you think.
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I've noticed the slowdowns happening with negligible CPU load and no memory constraints. I suspect a problem with the kernel. At the times it happens, the phone seems to be just doing *nothing*.
demkantor said:
If your rom supports ext partitions, make sure all of yours are formatted that way. Chances are you have sopme bad apps, a logcat may hedlp determin abused wake locks or memory leaks. Also you can try downloading battery batt stats or watchdog for more infor
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Is there any other thing I can try apart from logcat ? I installed Watchdog a few hours ago, but so far it hasn't reported anything out of the way ..
What does have ext partitions do ? How does that speed up the OS ?
Also, I'm probably going to be re-flashing another ROM soon, so please suggest me a ROM ... I'm looking for maximum longterm stability and responsiveness here, so even if a ROM isn't the newest or the most feature-filled, I can still try it out ..
And what is Superwipe (read it in another thread) ?
Normally, when I restore stuff after installing a ROM, I download a fresh copy of the app from the Store, and only restore the app's data using titanium .. is this okay ?
For the sake of starting fresh, flash the ext 4 recovery and flash mimicry as your rom. Read all suggestions in the first few post on mimicry, to flash 4ext I made a thread, you'll find it the first page or so in the general section (dzhboot or something)
Mimicry is one of the best made best performing full featured ics roms for our phones, partitioning everything to 4ext (easily done through recovery) will make it far better. Other bonus tweaks will be added in.
There (in my opinion) are beter performing gingerbread roms, but I do sugest mimicry as it is amazing and the dev has laid out a wealth of knowledge in the first few posts
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For the sake of starting fresh, flash the ext 4 recovery and flash mimicry as your rom. Read all suggestions in the first few post on mimicry, to flash 4ext I made a thread, you'll find it the first page or so in the general section (dzhboot or something)
Mimicry is one of the best made best performing full featured ics roms for our phones, partitioning everything to 4ext (easily done through recovery) will make it far better. Other bonus tweaks will be added in.
There (in my opinion) are beter performing gingerbread roms, but I do sugest mimicry as it is amazing and the dev has laid out a wealth of knowledge in the first few posts
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I'm assuming you're referring to this thread: http://www.forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1714187
Well this is the ROM I'm currently using, which I flashed about 2 months ago, which is giving me all these performance issues ..
I went through the first few pages, but I didn't find any instructions on 4EXT ... The only thing I found was in the OP's FAQ in the start, which said that you should apply ext by downloading 4ext from Play Store, if you get lags ..
Anywhere else I can look ?
Look in general section, somewhere in the first page I posted a thread called dzhboot on g2 or something to that extent, one of the first few posts I eplain how to flash 4ext recovery.
One of the fastest roms I have used is elitemod cm7, maybe try that
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I have been wondering the same as the OP. I have been using andromadus and andromadus mimicry roms for the past few month. I tired cm9 unofficial but it was no different to mimicry in terms of lag. Currently on flinny's jb beta http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2005136. Lag is not terrible but too often I am looking at a white screen waiting for something to happen.
I often experience lags opening apps like phone and browser (any browser). Phone hanging when trying to make a call is particularly annoying because my wife asks "why is your phone so ****?"
I would love to have a really smooth experience like others report but even with a fresh wipe I seem to have trouble. When I try to reduce the process limit i still seem to have too many processes running. What should i look for in logcat in terms of tracking down the problem?
Maybe 4ext will sort it out? I am very loathe to go back to a cm7 rom.
Ext4 worked really well for me to speed up my phone.. I highly recommend it.
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I have been wondering the same as the OP. I have been using andromadus and andromadus mimicry roms for the past few month. I tired cm9 unofficial but it was no different to mimicry in terms of lag. Currently on flinny's jb beta http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2005136. Lag is not terrible but too often I am looking at a white screen waiting for something to happen.
I often experience lags opening apps like phone and browser (any browser). Phone hanging when trying to make a call is particularly annoying because my wife asks "why is your phone so ****?"
I would love to have a really smooth experience like others report but even with a fresh wipe I seem to have trouble. When I try to reduce the process limit i still seem to have too many processes running. What should i look for in logcat in terms of tracking down the problem?
Maybe 4ext will sort it out? I am very loathe to go back to a cm7 rom.
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It's gotta be a certain app your installing thats hogging all your memory, I been running mimicry ever since blk released it n have had very few slowdowns.
Never had a problem receiving/making calls 'wiping' is not the same as 'superwiping' its different then just the name, I suggest you do some reading up before flashing any more roms.
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It's gotta be a certain app your installing thats hogging all your memory, I been running mimicry ever since blk released it n have had very few slowdowns.
Never had a problem receiving/making calls 'wiping' is not the same as 'superwiping' its different then just the name, I suggest you do some reading up before flashing any more roms.
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i superwipe, and i've been flashing roms since the g1. I am not seeing any particular process hogging resources. this current jb beta is pretty good but still get some lagging at random.
if that were the case I would love to try and find out what it is.
it seems to me that a minority of users report lags in rom threads and are dismissed without ever really getting to the root of the problem.
I would really like to try and get to the bottom of it. I am going to move to ext4 but if there are other troubleshooting steps to take I am all ears.
Ext4 alone will make a huge difference, and most of the rest of the slow downs will be do to apps/running services which can be seen with a logcat what is continually trying to use cpu resources
If only a minority report slowdowns then either that minority has a different idea of how the phone should run/ they use the phone in a completley different way/ or have different settings and apps then most have.
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Should I reinstall the original ROM?

I'm really frustrated with my Desire, I been tested differents ROMS in two years, not because I needed new features, but because I only wanted a modern and functionally UI like the one of Android 4.0+, but everytime I got thousands of bugs...not a single ROM was bugfree with the Camera, Videos never really worked and so on.
I can't really stand more this situation, I just want a bugfree OS... should I come back to the Original Sense (sigh...) ROM?
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I'm really frustrated with my Desire, I been tested differents ROMS in two years, not because I needed new features, but because I only wanted a modern and functionally UI like the one of Android 4.0+, but everytime I got thousands of bugs...not a single ROM was bugfree with the Camera, Videos never really worked and so on.
I can't really stand more this situation, I just want a bugfree OS... should I come back to the Original Sense (sigh...) ROM?
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Try mildwild's redux v14 ROM. It's kitkat themed.
It seems a nice ROM, but I'm afraid to do again the same error: install a ROM and then found so many bugs that make everything an awful experience.
I'm pessimistic but I would give a try.
Right now I got the Cyanogenmod (doens't receive an update since months...) and I need to wipe everything. But this time I got problems to get into the Recovery Mode (tested with volume-down button and power button but doesn't work)...how can I do that?
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I'm pessimistic but I would give a try.
Right now I got the Cyanogenmod (doens't receive an update since months...) and I need to wipe everything. But this time I got problems to get into the Recovery Mode (tested with volume-down button and power button but doesn't work)...how can I do that?
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Try power down+ back button, then select bootloader, then recovery.
Mildwild redux v14 doesn't have any known major bugs. Try it, trust me.
The first impression is good, the reaction time is another world in comparison to the Cyanogenmod.
However, I just found a first big problem: I can't log to my Google Account, it puts automatically the @googlemail.com (even if mine is @gmail.com)...I tried to force it with [email protected] and only username + password (double checked) but I still doens't found it correct.
EDIT: fixed http://mattimeo.com/mattimeo/2012/07/android-your-username-and-password-do-not-match-error/
MildWild
abaaaabbbb63 said:
Try power down+ back button, then select bootloader, then recovery.
Mildwild redux v14 doesn't have any known major bugs. Try it, trust me.
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+1 to abaaaabbbb63 suggestion. Besides, MildWild has an Oxygen based ROM which is very light in resources consumption. MildWild 5.0.
Good luck.
I have been tested the ROM for all this time, and I'm really disappointed... the first impression was good, but after some experience I'm again frustraded with the Smartphone. Auch with Mildwild there are all the type of Problems: bugs, screen not responding, error messages, impossibility to answer some call and so and so on...
The everyday use is still a bad experience that I would like to avoid. There's no hope to find a REAL stable Rom or I should really come back to the original from HTC? In this case, what should I expect?
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The lack of response saids it all really. I've been using Mildwild-14 for a month or so and its by far the most stable rom for me.
If you want everything to work you should learn how to cook a rom because you seem not so satisfied about any roms. If you had no problems with the original rom by no means go back to it..
I'm sure original roms have more bugs than custom ones so good luck choosing.
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I have been tested the ROM for all this time, and I'm really disappointed... the first impression was good, but after some experience I'm again frustraded with the Smartphone. Auch with Mildwild there are all the type of Problems: bugs, screen not responding, error messages, impossibility to answer some call and so and so on...
The everyday use is still a bad experience that I would like to avoid. There's no hope to find a REAL stable Rom or I should really come back to the original from HTC? In this case, what should I expect?
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Maybe your Desire just doesn't like custom ROMs. I had one like that. Just return to stock and you should be fine
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MildWild is by far one of the most stable roms you can find for a Desire. I did have a Desire for almost 3years and had this ROM and had absolutely no problems with it.
Sounds like a cliché but make sure you wipe completely everything before installing anything new. Yes there are times when your phone just "jacks off" and it's for absolutely no reason, Desire is a senior, and no longer n.1 smartphone. You got to remember this. If you are experiencing this on a daily basis with many roms and you are totally sure it's not your fault, then it's just your phone. It got old... get rid of it or get used it cheers !
btw. my Desire is still working !
Thanks for all your answers.
Yes, I have done the complete wipe before install any type of ROM, but everytime I got some kind of problems.
I can remember that with the original Sense ROM I didn't got all those type of bugs...but right now I wondering if the new apps still works with the old Android OS. Someone use the Desire with the original ROM right now?
GB AOSP ROMs are generally the most stable for the Desire, so those based on Oxygen rarely if ever had stability issues for me.
Are you using a partition with these ROMs, and how did you create it? Should be done with gparted or 4EXT recovery only (not minitool)
MildWild 14 vs. MildWild 5.0
I have tried every MildWild ROM since I don't remember when.
Recently, I gave MW 14 a try, and it went mostly ok. Only problem? After a while (3 or 4 days), the calls became muted. I mean: I was able to hear the caller, but he/she wasn't able to hear me. A reboot would temporarily fix the problem, but not knowing whether you will be able to answer your next call or not is not something I could stand.
So I went back to MW 5.0. It is sort of an attractor, for me. Every now and then, just for the sake of injecting some innovation into my old desire's veins, I switch to some other ROM. But I always, invariable, after only some days, keep returning to the oxygen-based MW. It is, in my experience, the most stable ROM ever for my device, not to mention that it's very light in resource consumption.
So, MattSid, if you haven't tried MW 5.0, and if you have the patience to try one more ROM, try it.
On the other hand, I believe yours can simply be a perceptual issue. When I buy some new device, I always see it shining, wonderful. Marvelous. Magic. And that memory sticks to my brain, so nothing can compare to it. But if I, trying to be objective and true to myself, compare that to new developments, age shows up. Try you original Sense-based ROM. Perhaps you won't find it as beautiful this time as you recall?

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