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[Q] Very inconsistent 4G

I have a rooted evo with S-off. I used http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045 to root my device and did not have any problems. I live in a 4G coverage area but my 4 G in very inconsistent but if I turn on 4 G antenna, update profile it will connect. My RSA keys are intact and my MAC address matches what I pulled up on ADB. I have been reading through post for 2.5 days as not to ask the same question twice. My wimax radio is 24722. Which I see is an older one but from what I gather updating this radio could ruin wimax completely. I hope I have provided enough info. Thanks to all the dev and ROM creaters!!! I was a ROM flashing fool with my HERO and I want my EVO to be the same experience!!!
Thanks in advance
Todd

toddlmr said:
I have a rooted evo with S-off. I used http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829045 to root my device and did not have any problems. I live in a 4G coverage area but my 4 G in very inconsistent but if I turn on 4 G antenna, update profile it will connect. My RSA keys are intact and my MAC address matches what I pulled up on ADB. I have been reading through post for 2.5 days as not to ask the same question twice. My wimax radio is 24722. Which I see is an older one but from what I gather updating this radio could ruin wimax completely. I hope I have provided enough info. Thanks to all the dev and ROM creaters!!! I was a ROM flashing fool with my HERO and I want my EVO to be the same experience!!!
Thanks in advance
Todd
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If you flash a new radio yes it could ruin it. Big risk that way, if you update through you phone or ota it won't ruin it
sent from my EVO at the edge of hell

Today I'm in a really good 4g area and others with eve's have 4g but I get it for a few minutes if I update profile.
thanks
todd
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There is nothing wrong with the phone my friend i have been investigating this as well i need to do more tests but it seems once you flash a custom ROM your 4G is no longer as strong as it was from the factory. It wont matter if you flash a new radio, PRI or PRL, You can take a 100% virgin Evo and one that has been flashed over with the exact same RADIO PRI and PRL and you will notice a difference in the 4G Signal the stock phone will of course get a stronger signal. i have not tested this on a stock phone with just root access so im not 100% if this problem is Root related or Rom related but there is a difference.

T3hPWN said:
There is nothing wrong with the phone my friend i have been investigating this as well i need to do more tests but it seems once you flash a custom ROM your 4G is no longer as strong as it was from the factory. It wont matter if you flash a new radio, PRI or PRL, You can take a 100% virgin Evo and one that has been flashed over with the exact same RADIO PRI and PRL and you will notice a difference in the 4G Signal the stock phone will of course get a stronger signal. i have not tested this on a stock phone with just root access so im not 100% if this problem is Root related or Rom related but there is a difference.
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Whenever I was running a sense based rom I never had a problem with my 4g. Not to say that what your saying might not be true I'm just saying that I personally had no problem with 4g.
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I’m currently running a sense based Rom with all the same radios as the next guy I can literally put our phones side by side and his will pick up 4G where mine gets 3 bars of crappy 3G my friend down the hall same issue as me he’s running Baked snack I’m running Myns the other guy is stock we all got our phones at the same time so hardware is the same. I’m not *****ing just curious what’s causing the issue...

[Q] Best Radio for CM7

What radio is everyone using or would recommend for CM7?
I can't post in the development forums yet even though i've been here awhile just a lurker though.

2.15.00.07.28 There is a newer one I believe but I haven't tried it.
This question wouldn't belong in the development forum anyways. Here or Q & A. That is exactly why they make people wait to post in there =)

Noticed a bit of a stronger signal when I flashed the 11.19 radio (newest). As I understand it all phones are different though, I would test each one and see what works best for you.

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This question wouldn't belong in the development forum anyways. Here or Q & A. That is exactly why they make people wait to post in there =)
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Yeah but i would have just posted in the CM7 thread, but i understand.
I have the 11.19 radio right now (flashed it and hboot 92 while running SR 3.5 athena and it killed my wifi...) seems to be doing fine. Took about 3 tries to get CM7 working correctly for me though. Kept getting a boot loop forcing me to reflash.

Give each radio a test drive yourself for a few days. Asking what radio you should use is like asking someone to tell you what your favorite color should be.
Baseband performance is extremely subjective based upon your individual variables. As such, someone else's experience isn't necessarily a reliable indicator of what you can expect on your own phone in your location.

I'm running 11.19 now on rooted 2.2 and I seem to be getting better signal now than I did before. I was at Camp Old Indian over the weekend and was getting 2 bars consistently while everyone else got "no service". Anyone in Scouting that knows the upstate area of South Carolina knows exactly what I'm talking about.

I'm using 7.28. I was using 11.19 for a about a month before going back. Cell reception is the same but 3g is faster on 7.28. Atleast for me it is. I never use gps so cant speak for that.

I just flashed 11.19 and I'll be trying it out for a few days. My work has some sort of issue inside the building -- there are "dead" places all over the building and it tends to eat my battery when I spend time in those areas. It's very predictable (on the old radio) so I'll know pretty quick if any difference has been made.
There is a thread in the development forums that is a must-read if you are considering a radio flash so you A)know what to do and B)don't permanently brick your phone.
Read it...

kenneu said:
I just flashed 11.19 and I'll be trying it out for a few days. My work has some sort of issue inside the building -- there are "dead" places all over the building and it tends to eat my battery when I spend time in those areas. It's very predictable (on the old radio) so I'll know pretty quick if any difference has been made.
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The next time you have to reboot your phone, go ahead and pull the battery too. It might help to completely power down the device. It may not help, but it can't hurt.

i have been using the 11.19 radio for a couple of months and it works well for me.

Flashed 11.19 and things didn't seem any different in terms of call quality, battery life, or signal strength. I flashed the 9.xx version and it didn't seem any different, either. I'm going to put all three on the phone and record signal strength in the same place at the same time of the day and do various d/l speed tests and see if I can find a definitive radio that meets my needs. If anyone has any suggestions for a testing methodology, please let me know....

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Flashed 11.19 and things didn't seem any different in terms of call quality, battery life, or signal strength. I flashed the 9.xx version and it didn't seem any different, either. I'm going to put all three on the phone and record signal strength in the same place at the same time of the day and do various d/l speed tests and see if I can find a definitive radio that meets my needs. If anyone has any suggestions for a testing methodology, please let me know....
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That sounds great actually. I am usin the new evo 4.08 radio n went from -85 on 11.10 to -78. All from my house, i tested right b4 i flashed new radio.
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Ok, so I ran 10 trials each for the three kernels about 1 minute apart and measured dBm and kbps UL and DL speeds using speedtest from the market....
Having testing it and reflecting on the data, it's impossible to test meaningfully with just one phone.
The upload and download speeds vary too much from moment to moment and within an hour apart, 11.19 went from an average DL speed of 480kbps to 1150kbps. This is clearly just a function of who is currently sucking up bandwidth and unless I have three phones with the three versions of the radio side by side running the tests, I don't know how I can make it meaningful.
I did compare the dBm on each kernel and they were within -1 dBm of each other consistently. The phone was placed in the exact same location and I watched for changes in the number until the screen blanked. I then opened it again and monitored it again until it timed out and so on... 10 times for each radio version. The difference was so small it would have to be considered insignificant.

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That sounds great actually. I am usin the new evo 4.08 radio n went from -85 on 11.10 to -78. All from my house, i tested right b4 i flashed new radio.
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Flashed 4.08 about an hour ago. *228 afterward even though it has never made a difference locally. No difference. I place my phone in the EXACT same spot facing the exact same direction and monitor the dBm level. The best I've seen from that spot is -93 dBM and worst is -99dBm. Each radio has displayed that range and pinned right at -94 to -95.
I'm beginning to believe that the radio itself has a "fixed" send/receive strength and that no amount of software can change a hardware limitation. Maybe it can change rules like how long a GPS waits to lock based on number of acceptable satellite grabs or something like that, but I'm not seeing one bit of difference in radios.

The new 4.08 radio is working good for me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1035955

kenneu said:
Flashed 4.08 about an hour ago. *228 afterward even though it has never made a difference locally. No difference. I place my phone in the EXACT same spot facing the exact same direction and monitor the dBm level. The best I've seen from that spot is -93 dBM and worst is -99dBm. Each radio has displayed that range and pinned right at -94 to -95.
I'm beginning to believe that the radio itself has a "fixed" send/receive strength and that no amount of software can change a hardware limitation. Maybe it can change rules like how long a GPS waits to lock based on number of acceptable satellite grabs or something like that, but I'm not seeing one bit of difference in radios.
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As far as receiver sensitivity goes...I was an electronics technician at one time in my life, and I too believe the hardware is the limiting factor. E.g: My phone is setting in the exact same spot, facing the same direction, and I updated from 11.19 to 04.08, and only noticed -1db difference. I am using the Real Signal app. And it shows the relative strength of both signals that our CDMA phones use.

[Q] Flashing radio

What is the best radio for me to flash? My father has been having connection issues with his INcredible lately. He has been dropping calls in areas where my Eris has a very clear connection. He is currently running the newest stock rom and everything is normal except I have rooted the phone. What is the best Radio for me to flash when it comes to reliability?

I'm speaking from PERSONAL EXPERIENCE ONLY, and cannot say that what I did will help you out, but I flashed 11.19 (Evo) on my rooted Froyo just to see how it works. Surprisingly, I noticed that GPS locks on almost instantly with very little "searching for satellites". Also, one of the Boy Scout camps we attend on a regular basis has almost zero coverage as it's in the mountains. We were there last weekend and the first thing I noticed is that I had 2 bars all over camp where I usually had no signal / no service.

bump, i kinda wanna feel reassured before i flash a radio

johnston9234 said:
bump, i kinda wanna feel reassured before i flash a radio
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With personal experience, 11.19 wasn't all that great for me. I kept losing signal randomly. The newly leaked 04.08 is a beauty though. Amazing signal and doesn't drop as much. Each phone is different though.

Yep just depends on the phone, there is no "best" radio. For my phone, the 11.19 radio works best, I tried the new one but lost signal. Don't worry about it too much, just check the md5 sum, make sure your card is formatted fat32, and make sure the file is named PB31IMG.zip

Houston We Have A Problem...Perfect signal, horrible reception:

Like the thread title states...I have perfect reception in the house thanks to the airave and get staticy/interrupted voice calls. I leave the house and go miles down the road. And the same thing happens. Only this time I don't usually have full signal.
I am currently running the Classic v1.0 rom from tommytomatoe and using the updated 4.67.651 radio, wimax, pri and nv. I have noticed it doing this for about 2 months now, maybe longer. I have had the airave for roughly 6 months. And haven't had any issues with it at all.
I have flashed and older version of the radios...I forget which one to be honest. But I know it was the ones said to fix wake lock...
What do I do? keep flashing older radios until the issue fixes itself? or is there some other type of fix I can do?
Any and all help would be greatly appreciated.
Adam.

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Like the thread title states...I have perfect reception in the house thanks to the airave and get staticy/interrupted voice calls. I leave the house and go miles down the road. And the same thing happens. Only this time I don't usually have full signal.
I am currently running the Classic v1.0 rom from tommytomatoe and using the updated 4.67.651 radio, wimax, pri and nv. I have noticed it doing this for about 2 months now, maybe longer. I have had the airave for roughly 6 months. And haven't had any issues with it at all.
I have flashed and older version of the radios...I forget which one to be honest. But I know it was the ones said to fix wake lock...
What do I do? keep flashing older radios until the issue fixes itself? or is there some other type of fix I can do?
Any and all help would be greatly appreciated.
Adam.
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Mazda, how about punctuation?
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mazdarider23 said:
lrp tnereffid a hsalf ot deen uoy taht eb dluoC.....srussi erom on dna eliforp ym detadpu dna lrp tnereffid a dehsalf I tub langis ym langis htiw seussi dah I
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This made my day, and I fully agree. I've done extensive testing with radios and it seems that the latest is always the best, but plr, nv, wimax, wifi, etc, do not always follow this rule. It's a pain in the butt to test this out, but ironing out the kinks can save you from ruining an important call.
Remember to try flashing a different kernel too, I have had similar issues on Anthrax and savagedzen.
Just my 2 cents

Thanks for the insight guys. I flashed the 60677 prl and so far things seem to be okay. Had a 45min phone call and not one bit of static or interference...

Weak signal in my house and other areas?

I've been having a lot of 3G connectivity issues in my house, and a lot of the times outdoors. I've tried CM7 and CM9 all with different kernels. I'm using the 2.15.10.12.20. I've also tried *228
Should I try a different radio? I've tried even using a network refresh to no avail. What should I try?

Recon0212 said:
I've been having a lot of 3G connectivity issues in my house, and a lot of the times outdoors. I've tried CM7 and CM9 all with different kernels. I'm using the 2.15.10.12.20. I've also tried *228
Should I try a different radio? I've tried even using a network refresh to no avail. What should I try?
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Try different radios, you can get them here http://dinc.does-it.net/radios. The evo radios on that page also work for the inc, as evos and incs are so alike.

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Try different radios, you can get them here http://dinc.does-it.net/radios. The evo radios on that page also work for the inc, as evos and incs are so alike.
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It appears I have the latest one, does that not make it the best?

Recon0212 said:
It appears I have the latest one, does that not make it the best?
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No it does not make it the best. When it comes to radios its a what works best for me may not work best for you type deal. Many people report that they get the best signal on older radios. For me the newest radio is the best signal i have ever got, while others say it made there signal worse.

So I've tried a number of radios, with little improvement, if any at all. I've tried *228 and even tried a signal refresher. However, I still have poor signal, while my friends with other phones do not.
Any advice?

Recon0212 said:
So I've tried a number of radios, with little improvement, if any at all. I've tried *228 and even tried a signal refresher. However, I still have poor signal, while my friends with other phones do not.
Any advice?
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It may just be that your friends have newer radio hardware as their phones are newer. If new radio software or *228 dosent help, there isnt really anything else you can do .

Really? Are you sure it might not be a defect? I mean it is a refurb I got after my first one broke. Or is it one of those things where it either works or doesn't work?

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Really? Are you sure it might not be a defect? I mean it is a refurb I got after my first one broke. Or is it one of those things where it either works or doesn't work?
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12.20 was the worst radio I ever used, I can't believe that verizon pushed that to all dinc users last month who were on stock. I've been using the EVO 12.19 radio and it seems to be the best for my phone but like everyone says it varies. I would keep trying some of the other radios until you find something a little better. I recommend trying 07.28 and 07.07, Particularly 07.07 if your phone had better reception about a month ago. If you got the replacement more recently than that then i guess it would be hard to tell but you can still try it. 07.28 is a froyo radio but I had it for a very long time before i realized that when I downgraded to root I also had downgraded my radio and it worked just fine. Anyway, best of luck to you but if none of these helps, more than likely, like cmlusco said, it might be time for a new phone. You can buy used phones for fairly cheap online so you won't have to wait until your contract is up.

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12.20 was the worst radio I ever used, I can't believe that verizon pushed that to all dinc users last month who were on stock. I've been using the EVO 12.19 radio and it seems to be the best for my phone but like everyone says it varies. I would keep trying some of the other radios until you find something a little better. I recommend trying 07.28 and 07.07, Particularly 07.07 if your phone had better reception about a month ago. If you got the replacement more recently than that then i guess it would be hard to tell but you can still try it. 07.28 is a froyo radio but I had it for a very long time before i realized that when I downgraded to root I also had downgraded my radio and it worked just fine. Anyway, best of luck to you but if none of these helps, more than likely, like cmlusco said, it might be time for a new phone. You can buy used phones for fairly cheap online so you won't have to wait until your contract is up.
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I get an upgrade the end of August! Just the wait will kill me

Hey guys just a heads up. Verizon sent me another Incredible and it fixed all my issues. I now dropped from -105 to -85. Thanks again!