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Hey all, I was thinking of getting a g2 after my contract is ready for it, and ive got a few questions. I'm not really a noob to all this rooting and cyanogen mod, so i might understand some of the technical jargon. i've rooted my g1 with cyanogen 5.0.8
If you use visionary to temp-root your phone daily, is there any chance for bricking it? Are there are any known problems with using visionary?
what are the main benefits with getting permaroot as opposed to just temp rooting it everytime? im not that interested in roms like cyanogen, gingervillan,etc
can you use setcpu with the stock tmobile g2 rom?
is the hinge really that bad?
does tmobile really monitor tethering? some say that the original g1 plan includes tethering but that just sounds absurd.
what exactly does busybox do? i have asked this several times but havent gotten a clear answer; i know that it has to do with linux, but thats about it :/
theres a section on the wiki about g2 radios; i dont understand what is the problem with the stock radio and why someone would want to flash another one besdies for the reason of getting a better signal, but this leads me to the question of 'doesnt tmobile update the radio? why would we need to manually update radio'?
what are the main differences between using visionary temp to permaroot and the adb method? if i were to use the visionary one, at what point could i enable s- off and hboot?
that being said, is there any news about a new release of visionary?
can't people just ask tmobile for a sim unlock code after 1 year? why do we have to root it and do it?
Looking at the wiki, i dont understand what md5 is when the wiki provides downloads and what it means
what is hboot used for and whats the difference between that and a bootloader (whats a bootloader btw)
can both temp rooting and both versions of permarooting work on 1.19 and 1.12?
thanks!
kayway27 said:
[reposted from wrong thread]
Hey all, I was thinking of getting a g2 after my contract is ready for it, and ive got a few questions. I'm not really a noob to all this rooting and cyanogen mod, so i might understand some of the technical jargon. i've rooted my g1 with cyanogen 5.0.8
If you use visionary to temp-root your phone daily, is there any chance for bricking it? Are there are any known problems with using visionary?
what are the main benefits with getting permaroot as opposed to just temp rooting it everytime? im not that interested in roms like cyanogen, gingervillan,etc
can you use setcpu with the stock tmobile g2 rom?
is the hinge really that bad?
does tmobile really monitor tethering? some say that the original g1 plan includes tethering but that just sounds absurd.
what exactly does busybox do? i have asked this several times but havent gotten a clear answer; i know that it has to do with linux, but thats about it :/
theres a section on the wiki about g2 radios; i dont understand what is the problem with the stock radio and why someone would want to flash another one besdies for the reason of getting a better signal, but this leads me to the question of 'doesnt tmobile update the radio? why would we need to manually update radio'?
what are the main differences between using visionary temp to permaroot and the adb method? if i were to use the visionary one, at what point could i enable s- off and hboot?
that being said, is there any news about a new release of visionary?
can't people just ask tmobile for a sim unlock code after 1 year? why do we have to root it and do it?
Looking at the wiki, i dont understand what md5 is when the wiki provides downloads and what it means
what is hboot used for and whats the difference between that and a bootloader (whats a bootloader btw)
can both temp rooting and both versions of permarooting work on 1.19 and 1.12?
thanks!
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This late in the game jsut wait for the next wave of phones some will has dual core
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Might even see quad core by the end of the year.
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sorta didnt answer my question, dont mean to sound ungrateful;
i want the g2 b/c of the keyboard and other asthetics; dual core isnt that big of a factor for me.
As others have said there will be new phones coming out soon, faster processors, more cores, more megapixels, etc.
Another thing to consider is that I would expect new phones from T-Mobile to have radios capable of operating on AT&T's 3G network, making them more future proof.
OTOH If you are a keyboard guy I would expect these to be less and less common, as a former G1 user myself I can tell you the G2 keyboard is quite inferior to the G1 and thanks to better soft keyboards like Swype I rarely use the hardware keyboard anymore.
Also I can certainly sympathize with wanting to upgrade from the G1, the G2 is unbelievably more snappy, I don't think could go back to the G1 again.
One other option is to look at picking up a used device off Swappa (something like a MyTouch 3G Slide) to hold you over until the new hotness comes out later and renew your contact then.
BusyBox is a set of Linux tools that is pretty much essential for a rooted Android phone.
I have never heard of using Visionary only for temp rooting causing any problems, it only gets dicey if you try to use it for permanent root.
As for advantages of permanent root over temp root, I guess in your case it's mainly a matter of convenience, though I found some rooted apps don't behave properly with Visionary temp root.
I haven't heard anything about a newer version of Visionary and I don't think I'd expect one.
The gfree method isn't too difficult once you have ADB working, I'd just do that.
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I'm no expert but I'll try to answer some things. As for temp rooting, Visionary appears to be relatively safe, but many people warn of using it to perm root as there's a good chance of bricking the phone. It just seems to be less of a hassle to perm root and be done with it. The gfree method seems to be the one that is least risky. I have yet to root my G2 but will probably follow a method that uses Visionary for temp root and gfree for the perm part.
As to the radios, there is often no need to flash a new one and its generally advised NOT to unless you have a very good reason and know exactly what you're doing. The hinge can be bad on some G2s, not so bad on others. Mine is on the loose side but its not really a big deal to me. I can post the link to the "Easy Root" thread if you like. There are a lot of posts from people who used it and have yet to see a reported failure. I'm trying to steel myself up to go through with it. Just wanna have everything in line.
A lot of people it seems are saying wait and don't bother with the G2. Not so sure. It's an awesome phone if you like a physical keyboard. It's plenty fast and capable, even more so when rooted. Playing the technology waiting game is pointless, IMO. There is ALWAYS something bigger and better right around the corner. Everyone is touting the current wave of dual core phones, and soon those will be kicked aside by the tech elites in favor of quad core phones, then THOSE will be swatted aside when something else comes along. Android phone technology is moving faster than any tech I've seen so I think it's better to find a phone you like and chill. So what if some dude you know has a dual core phone? That fact doesn't make a phone like the G2 suddenly slow and incapable. Sure, relatively speaking it's less powerful but that's technology for you. I say if you find a phone you really like, jump on it.
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Hi all,
sorry for my bad english iam a german user.
I have an Magic and a Desire, my Magic is rooted because the original Rom is stupid and slow....
Why should i root my Desire. I Like the original rom, its fast, very good functions (like sense, htc tether, and the other htc features)....
i dont know if there a desire rom that has all the same functions include root....
Thanks for your help..
Erm...then don't root it.
he's asking if by Rooting it he loses the HTC functions
Why shouldn't you root?
You can have the same exact ROM as the stock, but with root. Check the rooting procedure from modaco.
By rooting, you'd lose nothing. If I had a Desire, I'd surely root it even if I decided I wanted to keep the stock ROM. There's little to no risk, so no reason to hold back
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And how about warranty?
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And how about warranty?
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same question,
on my magic i can recover all (SPL, Recovery, ROM etc) with the sapphimg.nbh and on the desire?
stingerpl said:
Why shouldn't you root?
You can have the same exact ROM as the stock, but with root. Check the rooting procedure from modaco.
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He's basically said he loves the features, he's happy with it and everything is working fine...so I'm saying, use it and leave it.
Why root if there's no specific reason to do so apart from "you can"?!
It's like the thread that's just popped up asking if SetCPU is working yet...why? Is the CPU too slow as it is? Just because you can doesn't mean you should for no good reason other than you're bored.
the good reason to root the phone is to get apps2sd which currently isnt working too well for some people,
however, apparently google with the 2.2 software which will be out soon will bring the apps to sd functionality, so i will wait till then as so far dont see the point of doing so
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Hi all,
sorry for my bad english iam a german user.
I have an Magic and a Desire, my Magic is rooted because the original Rom is stupid and slow....
Why should i root my Desire. I Like the original rom, its fast, very good functions (like sense, htc tether, and the other htc features)....
i dont know if there a desire rom that has all the same functions include root....
Thanks for your help..
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yep the rooted rom is exactly the same except root access and the super user app, would translate this but i know it wouldn't make much sense due to german sentence structure etc.
slaming said:
yep the rooted rom is exactly the same except root access and the super user app, would translate this but i know it wouldn't make much sense due to german sentence structure etc.
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hmm ok, but how about warranty?
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Why should i root my Desire.
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Do you want it to do something it doesn't already do? If not, leave it alone.
On a more personal note, I'd hold off rooting for a couple of months at least. Let all the guys at the bleeding edge get hurt and bloodied by the rooting process. Then once things have settled down and the initial niggles are resolved, see what benefits it brings. The phone is very new after all. Surely you can't be bored of it yet?
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I'm thinking of getting a Desire SIM free - will this come with bootloader unlocked and engineering SPL as standard do you think?
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I'm thinking of getting a Desire SIM free - will this come with bootloader unlocked and engineering SPL as standard do you think?
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The only advantage in getting a sim free version is you can use any sim card with it. That's it. No special bootloader and stuff.
Sorry for resurrecting an old thread, but searching around on google for an answer I came across this.
Aitese said:
He's basically said he loves the features, he's happy with it and everything is working fine...so I'm saying, use it and leave it.
Why root if there's no specific reason to do so apart from "you can"?!
It's like the thread that's just popped up asking if SetCPU is working yet...why? Is the CPU too slow as it is? Just because you can doesn't mean you should for no good reason other than you're bored.
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What kind of advice is this? Seriously? Yes, you should do things because you can. You should learn and explore, become educated about the world around you. There's enough bigotry, ignorance, and lethargic mind states out there without telling others to hold back. This very technology was founded on forward thinking and sharing of community knowledge. As a counter to your statement why should I -NOT- root my device other than "because I can"?
What I want to know, and I believe op does as well, is what are the advantages of rooting? Are there any? Most of what I've looked up is fairly old (1+ years) and the biggest boon I've seen people talk about is being able to tether, this is something I can already do with my HTC Desire. I see plenty of answers for the second half of my question, what are the disadvantages, and there seems to be a hearty agreement that there really isn't one.
So what would I stand to gain from rooting?
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Sorry for resurrecting an old thread, but searching around on google for an answer I came across this.
What kind of advice is this? Seriously? Yes, you should do things because you can. You should learn and explore, become educated about the world around you. There's enough bigotry, ignorance, and lethargic mind states out there without telling others to hold back. This very technology was founded on forward thinking and sharing of community knowledge. As a counter to your statement why should I -NOT- root my device other than "because I can"?
What I want to know, and I believe op does as well, is what are the advantages of rooting? Are there any? Most of what I've looked up is fairly old (1+ years) and the biggest boon I've seen people talk about is being able to tether, this is something I can already do with my HTC Desire. I see plenty of answers for the second half of my question, what are the disadvantages, and there seems to be a hearty agreement that there really isn't one.
So what would I stand to gain from rooting?
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You can gain much.....
One of the reasons I rooted mine is so that I can control the CPU speed using SetCPU and improve my battery life.
You can install firewall apps to control iptables and keep your phone a little bit safer from the "perils" of internet.
I have also installed a cache removal and a move2sd app to help save a bit more space in the internal memory.
And, obviously, you can flash custom ROMs and extend functionalities (I haven't done this....yet)
All of which are possible through rooting.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
I cannot see a reason to root a phone if you want to keep the original ROM. Mine is rooted but I cannot do anything that I couldn't do before on the original rom.
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I cannot see a reason to root a phone if you want to keep the original ROM. Mine is rooted but I cannot do anything that I couldn't do before on the original rom.
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You can use certain applications from the market that required root such as setcpu.
I have the EVO from Sprint.
Software 1.32.651.6
My questionis this:
Now that there is a root method for the OTA update are there any real advantages to that update over the software I already have?
I'm thinking no.
But I'd like others to help me decide.
I've been paying for the Hotspot Service, but it seems to be real buggy, it does not maintain an internet connection for very long. Seems to connect and disconnect from the internet frequently, sometimes only stay connected for a few minutes. I complained to Sprint and they gave me a credit refund for the service. But I'd rather not pay for something I don't have to.
Well, supposedly, the newest ota adds wireless N and is supposed to increase performance of wifi (or something like that). It also fixes some screen grounding/responsiveness issues, and it seems like one more thing that slips my mind.
Now, if you want to root and you are asking which route to take, I would say since you have the earlier version that you should do toasts method 1 and 2. Then you can find a rom that has the update incorporated.
And if the hot spot feature doesnt work for you, then stop paying the 30/month for sure. Like you said, no point spending all that money if the feature is crap for you. Especially when you could root and use wireless tether for free.
Why toast's method, as opposed to simple root?
Would there be a reason that toast's method would be easier/superior to simple root?
I have only used toasts guide, so I would not know about the other
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Would there be a reason that toast's method would be easier/superior to simple root?
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I tried both. Toast's method is far more detailed, so it forces you to learn the ins and outs of using adb, which is huge plus. Simple root is a few click method. Works fine, but you do not learn anything from it. Do you already know adb? If not, I strongly suggest using toasts method so you can learn. If you already know it, just use simple root.
From what I understand simple root uses all of toasts stuff anyway so it's basically the same.....
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Still learning and being cautious
To be honest, I don't even know what adb is yet. I want to get my feet wet without too much risk of bricking my phone.
I've been reading the forums and gradually getting a sense of the Android world, but I also can see that there is some confusion in the rooting process, especially with newer phones.
But I will learn more about adb, thanks.
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I'm rooted now with PC36IMG.zip
Now what to do? (actually I'm starting a new thread with this Q)
Hi Everyone, this is my first time here in this section of XDA developers, but I have an interesting situation.
I recently acquired the Merge (Verizon's G2 variant that is still in limbo) and I'm thinking of rooting it. I have tried the instructions on the wiki for gfree 02, but it seems that as soon as I enter adb shell and type in su, I get permission denied. I read the wiki for hot to use gfree and also how to install adb but I have not been able to find an answer.
I'm trying to get the merge SIM unlocked and because this is the first android phone I have ever owned, I would really like to be able to use it on AT&T's network. Anyways, I would like to get some help as to why I am getting the permission denied response when I did everythng as the gfree wiki said to do. Is it possible that the merge is so internally different that gfree will not work on it even if it's a variant?
It's GSM coming from verizon?
If you're trying to use gfree to gain s-off, I would HIGHLY recommend running it with the "-s" flag (no quotations) just to be on the safe side
Even then, I still wouldn't recommend running gfree on the merge as it was made to gain radio s-off on the htc vision.
I would suggest using the rage method for now for root. See if that works.
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@ ratchetrizzo: no, it's just a world phone version for verizon users to use in different countries
@ Pancubano: So you would recommend against using gfree on the merge then? I'm trying to learn how to perform this rage method, but I have no experience in android whatsoever so even while reading the wiki, it seems there are a few things that are omitted or assumed that is common knowledge. By using the rage method, will I be able to achieve sim unlock status?
p.s thanks for replying!
The problem is, the merge is a CDMA device, so I'm pretty sure the sim unlock that gfree achieves with our HTC Vision's would not work on the merge. It involves copying partition 7 (on our phones) and making various hex edits to set the secu_flag to 0, supercid to 11111111 and simunlocking the phone, then copy's the modified partition back to the phone. All of which is taken care of by gfree.
Of course in order to process all of this, you're going to need at the very least temp root first, so, I would highly recommend doing more research into the rage method, but, do not try the gfree method yet, as I can't truely confirm if it will work with the merge with just the "-s" flag.
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"Rooting the Merge" sounds dirty...
You might actually have more luck in the HTC Evo Shift 4G subforum - that's Sprint's version of the G2 (more or less), and thus the internals are more likely to be similar to the Merge than the G2 would be.
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You might actually have more luck in the HTC Evo Shift 4G subforum - that's Sprint's version of the G2 (more or less), and thus the internals are more likely to be similar to the Merge than the G2 would be.
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Actually the merge is closer to the G2/DZ than the Shift 4G, right down to the keyboard and hinge, although I see the point since Sprint is CDMA although this phone is CDMA/GSM
well, thanks for everyone's attempt to help, but I finally realized that Verizon is evil and even if I unlock it, it'll simply be on 2G (EDGE) so there's no point of me having it.
EDIT: so I sold it to someone who is on verizon and will take care of it.
how did you get a hold of one? for some reason i dont believe you even had it from the start, haha. because it hasnt been released yet, and you must of been lucky enough to get an early production version.
I got it from a reviewer of the merge when it first came out. The mod who had it decided to sell it so i took a chance and bought it from him. After trying to unlock it, I finally gave up and because I got a leery of rooting it.
believe me or not, I had it, got to test it out, and finally had to give it up.
check htcmerge.com if you don't believe me. My username is the same as it is here.
EDIT: btw, why would I post this if I don't have it? It seems idiotic for me to post a thread asking for help on a phone that does not technically exist. No, I do not care for the attention. I was tempted to root it but as I said, I simply chickened out.
mputtr said:
I got it from a reviewer of the merge when it first came out. The mod who had it decided to sell it so i took a chance and bought it from him. After trying to unlock it, I finally gave up and because I got a leery of rooting it.
believe me or not, I had it, got to test it out, and finally had to give it up.
check htcmerge.com if you don't believe me. My username is the same as it is here.
EDIT: btw, why would I post this if I don't have it? It seems idiotic for me to post a thread asking for help on a phone that does not technically exist. No, I do not care for the attention. I was tempted to root it but as I said, I simply chickened out.
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Okay okay, its just a lot of speculation about this phone has been floating about and I didn't believe you. How did it run?
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App
It ran as well as the G2. What I did like alot was that unlike the evo shift 4g, the slider mechanism is spring loaded so it snaps upwards. the battery backing is odd since you have to pry the bottom part then unhook 2 minihooks on the side.
The heft of it is probably heavier than the G2, but it feels good in the hand and doesn't feel like it will slip at all.
Most of all the design is amazing!!
I definitely like the feel of the physical build. It feels tough, sturdy, and simply a phone that a man should have.
I think I might have only 1 gripe and that it's still stuck with bing since the one I bought was the Verizon version. (this was before the rumor that it was pulled back to be fitted with 4g).
In the end, I had to give it up, because I am on AT&T and verizon will never let their phones work on any carrier but theirs.
anyone been able to root a merge? I just got a merge. Didnt know about the phone beforehand and am using it on gsm(it is a worldphone). Once i got home and googled around and checked these forums... its still not released apparently :s so anyone have any idea on how i can root it?
and I'm new to this android stuff, completely. So I was wondering what kinda mods can I do to this phone and what should I do to it.
You should root it and apply a bunch of roms in the development section to see which one you like. Almost all of the roms have none of the bloatware that your provider demands your phone have on it, and some of them have custom looks to fit your aesthetic needs. More importantly, most of the roms will be easier on the battery of your phone, so you don't have to plug it in every 4 hours.
A good question is are you use to the process of modifying your phone?
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You should root it and apply a bunch of roms in the development section to see which one you like. Almost all of the roms have none of the bloatware that your provider demands your phone have on it, and some of them have custom looks to fit your aesthetic needs. More importantly, most of the roms will be easier on the battery of your phone, so you don't have to plug it in every 4 hours.
A good question is are you use to the process of modifying your phone?
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nope. I've never modified a phone before. Which is why I'm so interested in doing so now since I have a good phone lol. How do I "root" my phone n all that..
You're right. You do have a kick ass phone and you should take full control of it and do what you like to it, since you bought it.
The method I used to root my phone is an older method, which is posted at the top of this forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=837315
Watch it SEVERAL times before trying. People say their root didn't complete, but let me tell you, the battery pull is oh so necessary.
After that, go into the development section to start flashing roms. Each rom comes with instructions to flash, but they're basically all the same.
My suggestion would be to wait until you have familiarized yourself with this forum and Read until you understand what you are doing and why you are doing it. HERES A GOOD PLACE TO START. Its really easy to mess up your "good" phone doing stuff to it that you don't fully understand.
While the root method suggested above by enserio has worked and I my self used Visionary to root (not with this video though), it has caused so many bricked bootloops I can even guess a number, by far the most risky way to root. It is the least technical way, but with the most dangers. Hope you can afford to buy a new phone because your taking a big gamble rooting this way.
The method I recommend and anyone who has been in this forum long enough to know better would be HERE XDA WIKI, it uses Rage to temp root then Gfree to permroot. This is the safest way to root your phone, even if you mess up more than likely your phone will survive. This requires some technical knowledge but you can gain this by reading and searching and looking for tutorial videos on how to use ADB. Plus the skills learned would be indispensable.
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You're right. You do have a kick ass phone and you should take full control of it and do what you like to it, since you bought it.
The method I used to root my phone is an older method, which is posted at the top of this forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=837315
Watch it SEVERAL times before trying. People say their root didn't complete, but let me tell you, the battery pull is oh so necessary.
After that, go into the development section to start flashing roms. Each rom comes with instructions to flash, but they're basically all the same.
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I read someone on the forum got their phone bricked from some method.. My phone won't be harmed will it??
joemm said:
My suggestion would be to wait until you have familiarized yourself with this forum and Read until you understand what you are doing and why you are doing it. HERES A GOOD PLACE TO START. Its really easy to mess up your "good" phone doing stuff to it that you don't fully understand.
While the root method suggested above by enserio has worked and I my self used Visionary to root (not with this video though), it has caused so many bricked bootloops I can even guess a number, by far the most risky way to root. It is the least technical way, but with the most dangers. Hope you can afford to buy a new phone because your taking a big gamble rooting this way.
The method I recommend and anyone who has been in this forum long enough to know better would be HERE XDA WIKI, it uses Rage to temp root then Gfree to permroot. This is the safest way to root your phone, even if you mess up more than likely your phone will survive. This requires some technical knowledge but you can gain this by reading and searching and looking for tutorial videos on how to use ADB. Plus the skills learned would be indispensable.
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awesome. thanks, I start studying n looking into all this now.
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I read someone on the forum got their phone bricked from some method.. My phone won't be harmed will it??
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if you screw up, it will.
also, rooting and installing custom roms does not at all mean better battery life.
it varies greatly depending upon what you use the phone for and how often you use it.
I, in fact, have LOST a lot of battery life since rooting, because I have been using it more than I would if I hadn't rooted/installed custom roms.
my suggestion:
play with the phone as it came from the factory, read around here and see if there is any functionality you could gain from modding/rooting/custom roms, and go from there.
*sigh*
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App
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I read someone on the forum got their phone bricked from some method.. My phone won't be harmed will it??
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Most of the bricks came from the Visionary method; as stated above, the best/safest means to root is in the wiki, that's the method the guys/gals who found the exploit created.
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OriginalGabriel said:
Most of the bricks came from the Visionary method; as stated above, the best/safest means to root is in the wiki, that's the method the guys/gals who found the exploit created.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App
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That's not to say that there aren't other ways to brick your phone. Someone messing around in things they don't understand can easily turn your G2 into a paperweight. Its always just a safe rule to research first
Grats on the phone.
I lurked on here and read for a few weeks to make sure I had a full understanding before attempting anything.
Since doing lots based off of the dev forums I've been extremely happy. Just be careful and do your due diligence and you should be fine as long as your halfway technically inclined.
I'm thinking about getting a new phone. Maybe someone can offer me some info to help me choose. I have a htc evo 4g now. I've been thinking bout rooting it. But a new phone might just be better. I really like my htc though so I was thinking bout a evo 3d maybe. Possibly another brand. I'm not much of a fan of motorola or samsung. But they seem to be getting better. I want to have wifi tethering so I know i'll have to root if I stay with htc. I really like the sense 3.0 my gf has on her evo 3d. The other thing is the ram for storing apps. I only have 512 with my evo and even less is usable. My toshiba thrive has 3gb, I've heard app space is all in the software. Is there a possibility to get a rom that runs sense 3.0 with ics? Would this give me more room to store more apps as well? Thanks.
Edit: My sprint contract is almost up. I think the beginning of july. I don't know if I'm going to stay. Might take whatever phone I get to boost or something.
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blwnv8 said:
I'm thinking about getting a new phone. Maybe someone can offer me some info to help me choose. I have a htc evo 4g now. I've been thinking bout rooting it. But a new phone might just be better. I really like my htc though so I was thinking bout a evo 3d maybe. Possibly another brand. I'm not much of a fan of motorola or samsung. But they seem to be getting better. I want to have wifi tethering so I know i'll have to root if I stay with htc. I really like the sense 3.0 my gf has on her evo 3d. The other thing is the ram for storing apps. I only have 512 with my evo and even less is usable. My toshiba thrive has 3gb, I've heard app space is all in the software. Is there a possibility to get a rom that runs sense 3.0 with ics? Would this give me more room to store more apps as well? Thanks.
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I would wait till that new Evo drops if you have a upgrade coming.. If not and you can buy a 3D still try one out..
reaper24 said:
I would wait till that new Evo drops if you have a upgrade coming.. If not and you can buy a 3D still try one out..
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Thanks. I edited my post. Dunno if I'm going to stay on sprint. I was thinking the 3d cause they can be had relitavely cheap and won't change my contract. Can switch to boost or whatever if I like.
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I would definitely NOT recommended upgrading to an Evo 3D. Wait for the Evo 4G LTE if you want to stick with the Evo line. There are other, better phones out there than the 3D, even from other manufacturers.
As for rooting your current Evo 4G, there are Sense 3.0 roms available. I don't believe there are any ICS + Sense 3.0 roms, but I don't keep up with Sense at all. If you need more app storage, you can always partition your SD card and use the SD-Ext partition to store apps & data. You do, of course, need to be rooted to take advantage of an ext partition. Without partitioning, the Sense 3.0 roms will actually leave you with less storage space. AOSP roms will generally give you more space. With a decent sized SD card, you won't have to worry about space for apps.
Since my suggestion is to wait for the LTEvo, I'd go ahead and root the 4G. From there you can use the wireless tether, and/or flash any rom you want. Just be sure to read, read, and then read some more. Understand what you're doing before you do it. With the latest hboot (2.18), you have to use the HTCdev method to unlock the bootloader. You'll still be s-on, and you'll have to flash via fastboot. I'd suggest going ahead with Captain Throwback's method to downgrade and get s-off. From there, your options are limitless.
The fine folks here at xda will be happy to help you out along the way,, just be sure to do your own research. If you get stuck in the process and searching hasn't yielded any answers, then post questions (or send me a pm, I'm happy to help),
Good luck! Hopefully you don't jump the gun and get an Evo 3D, there are much better phones out now and coming out in the near future. The 3D is barely even an upgrade.
Thanks plainjane. The evo 3d is cheap round here. Usually $125-150. The ram is doubled and a 1.2ghz dual core would be better than what I have. I don't see the htc one being much of a upgrade either. I don't care much bout the speed of the camera and taking pics fast. Plus i'm not sure i wanna sign another 2 year contract. The one thing that really turns me off is the non removable battery. Hopefully it will have really good battery life. I still like to have the option to buy extended batteries if i want. What other phones would you suggest?
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I agree with the previous comments about waiting on the new HTC phones to upgrade, I wouldn't waste your upgrade on a 3D.
I think you should definitely explore rooting your current Evo to check out some of the awesome custom Roms that are out there, including Sense 3.0 roms. Rooting and partitioning your SD card (maybe upgrade your card) will give you all the storage space you need. It will bring new life to your phone and help pass the time until your contract is up. Me personally, I'm waiting to see how Sprint rolls out the network upgrades/LTE before I get into another 2 year contract. I have a rooted Evo and it does everything I need, I don't need a new phone that is restricted by slow 3G.
Do you know which Hboot you have? Do some rooting research actually, do a lot of research and ask questions. Its not as hard as it seems.
And remember to back up your SD card and Nandroid if do decide to root.
Good luck
gonowhere said:
I agree with the previous comments about waiting on the new HTC phones to upgrade, I wouldn't waste your upgrade on a 3D.
I think you should definitely explore rooting your current Evo to check out some of the awesome custom Roms that are out there, including Sense 3.0 roms. Rooting and partitioning your SD card (maybe upgrade your card) will give you all the storage space you need. It will bring new life to your phone and help pass the time until your contract is up. Me personally, I'm waiting to see how Sprint rolls out the network upgrades/LTE before I get into another 2 year contract. I have a rooted Evo and it does everything I need, I don't need a new phone that is restricted by slow 3G.
Do you know which Hboot you have? Do some rooting research actually, do a lot of research and ask questions. Its not as hard as it seems.
And remember to back up your SD card and Nandroid if do decide to root.
Good luck
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Thanks. I def wouldn't waste my upgrade on a 3d. I was just going to sell my evo and buy a 3d on craigslist. Might even be able to break even. I rooted my vizio vtab so I'm kinda familiar. Once you root a evo do you have to flash a rom? When I rooted my tablet it was the same as it was before, just had superuser access. Only did that to free the update service. I've been doing alot of reading. I know I have the newest hboot. From what I've read it will be some fun rooting it. Where can I learn more bout flashing roms and kernels? I've done a good bit of reading but are there any good informative videos?
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blwnv8 said:
Thanks. I def wouldn't waste my upgrade on a 3d. I was just going to sell my evo and buy a 3d on craigslist. Might even be able to break even. I rooted my vizio vtab so I'm kinda familiar. Once you root a evo do you have to flash a rom? When I rooted my tablet it was the same as it was before, just had superuser access. Only did that to free the update service. I've been doing alot of reading. I know I have the newest hboot. From what I've read it will be some fun rooting it. Where can I learn more bout flashing roms and kernels? I've done a good bit of reading but are there any good informative videos?
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No, you won't have to flash a rom but, you will probably want to after all the work to unlock it. It took me a week or two to flash after unlocking, and I was on the previous hboot that was a little easier. There should be rooting guides in the development section of the forum and there's also videos on youtube. I used Android Forum a lot at the beginning, they are very user friendly to what may seem like a silly question. Flashing is easy compared to the unlocking aspect, just remember to backup everything, make a Nandroid and wipe everything except sd card prior to flashing.
Does anyone know if you need to unroot before getting the new EVO LTE?
bard77 said:
Does anyone know if you need to unroot before getting the new EVO LTE?
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No, I don't think you'll have to even turn over your phone. When I get a new phone I'm keeping my Evo to continue flashing and using it as a kind of media toy!!!