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[Q] Favourite ROM with Sense UI

Hi just about to to root my Desire - I wonder if anyone could tell me their favourite ROM with Sense UI included (I like it!)

bump! anyone? ... going to step in randomly in bit otherwise

I have Leedroid, it's pretty good, fast and stable and has apps2sd+ (for my the main reason to root and flash) but I dislike the duplication of many apps for which sense has an alternative (eg an android and htc dialer and phonebook) so you are confronted with a choice between these apps in many instances. I would choose teppic74's rom if I hadn't installed leedroid. That said it isn't annoying enough to go trough a a reinstall and setup of the phone, so I will stick with leedroid
I also tried Aurax-Sense but really didn't like the theme otherwise it seemed quite okay

Go for Aurex T-sense...Its the best,flawless and fast I have come across so far...

Alright cool thanks... I just DL'd Aurax - what was it about the theme that bugged you godutch? WIll check teppic74!

Btw whats' the advantage of apps2sd? surely the Desire has enough storage built in for a bunch of apps? And isn't the internal RAM faster?

If you don't like the theme of AuraxT you can always replace it with another one of stock. I did that and even imported the Rosie of Leedroid which has Drag and drop function.

shoemeistah said:
If you don't like the theme of AuraxT you can always replace it with another one of stock. I did that and even imported the Rosie of Leedroid which has Drag and drop function.
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That sounds good how do you replace a theme?
and what is the 'drag and drop' function? Thx!

i got leedroids rom dont seem to have a problem with it

jomtones said:
Btw whats' the advantage of apps2sd? surely the Desire has enough storage built in for a bunch of apps? And isn't the internal RAM faster?
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No actually it does not have a lot of memory for apps it gets full really fast, that's why everybody is using A2SD. Froyo has it's own A2SD but it's not as good as it can't install all apps to SD only those designed for it.
Personally I think it's a must.
I'm using the Alex-V 1.7 Rom, I like it as it is not too far off from an official Rom and has a couple tricks to save power. Now with S-OFF we can delete apps we dont want directly from the phone too so everything has become a lot easier.

pinky desire is also a stable one. with sense ui, no FC, and somehow long battery life. IMO. but it really depends on how you will use your phone. different people. different tastes. anyway you can try different roms. that's Android for you!

jomtones said:
Alright cool thanks... I just DL'd Aurax - what was it about the theme that bugged you godutch? WIll check teppic74!
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Well for starters it misses the little indicator to show you on which homescreen you are and I didn't like the transparent notification bar, looked too messy with the background and I didn't like the exorbitant use of color in the notification icons, also too messy
btw I would also stay away from roms that undervolt/underclock it's generally bad for your battery life because the CPU is much more energy efficient when it can enter its sleepstate. Underclocking makes tasks take longer and prevent the cpu from sleeping

Thanks for the advice everyone some good tips there I guess I'll do a bit more reading and try one out! Alex, pinky, Leedroid - ok!

[Q] Gingerbread vs Froyo

Hello
So recently Ive been wondering if its worth to install the Gingerbread over the 2.2 Defrost mod, I cant say im unhappy with it, cuz its awesome but just bored recently and maybe gingerbread runs even smoother and battery is better and has some more functions?
thinking about oxygen rom or villain rom
what do you guys think? also will all the apps work on the gingerbread? cuz heard something like launcher pro doesnt work on gingerbread?
thanks

I am using LauncherPro to write this, all apps work fine. Nandroid and try it out if you don't like it restore Froyo, not that there is anything to dislike.

Launcher Pro works great on Redux too.
I agree with @Kalavere - many of the Gingerbread ROMs are reliable enough for everyday use - give a couple a run and see whether you like it or not. You probably won't go back.

thanks guys for the info, could you just tell me of some visible advantages over froyo? well apart from the different graphics, like any new features etc etc?
just looked at some reviews and dont really see a point of upgrading to gingerbread unless theres some improvements on smoothness, and battery life?

cez10 said:
thanks guys for the info, could you just tell me of some visible advantages over froyo? well apart from the different graphics, like any new features etc etc?
just looked at some reviews and dont really see a point of upgrading to gingerbread unless theres some improvements on smoothness, and battery life?
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Just flash and see, there are screen on and off visualizations, better battery graph logging, new RAM, internal and external memory graphs. And a few other features and bits and bobs.

Using Oxygen for some time now.... Try Gingerbread.... NEVER GO BACK!
Try it > http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=829734

On oxygen v2 rc5 battery lasted longer than now on latest miui (froyo). It wasn't pronounced that much on full load, but with screen turned off, i could get to first night with 80%. On miui, at best, 40-50%.
All the options were the same, and same apps were installed.
I went back to miui because on every other Tom i missed something.
On oxygen v2 rc5 3d didn't work, but that wasn't such a deal breaker for me.

borowatz said:
On oxygen v2 rc5 battery lasted longer than now on latest miui (froyo). It wasn't pronounced that much on full load, but with screen turned off, i could get to first night with 80%. On miui, at best, 40-50%.
All the options were the same, and same apps were installed.
I went back to miui because on every other Tom i missed something.
On oxygen v2 rc5 3d didn't work, but that wasn't such a deal breaker for me.
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That's really bad battery life no offence. Try a different kernel and radio. In 6 hours idle I go down to 90-95%

Cyanogenmod 7 vs Oxygen 2.0

Hi,
Im nog allowed to post this link in the development section, so im sorry if its wrong here. Can anyone tell me the differences between the CM7 rom and the oxygen rom? What are the pro's and con's of each rom? Tried a lot of google searches, but couldnt find it.
Patrick

still_the_same said:
Hi,
Im nog allowed to post this link in the development section, so im sorry if its wrong here. Can anyone tell me the differences between the CM7 rom and the oxygen rom? What are the pro's and con's of each rom? Tried a lot of google searches, but couldnt find it.
Patrick
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Depends if you want a technical explanation or simple?
As simple as it gets.. Nothing!
They are both GREAT Rom's by GREAT developers. However, they are also BOTH in "pre-stable" release status. This doesnt mean they arent stable, actually they are both insanely stable. It just means neither is a "Final Product"
Both share most of the same basic features and neither really has a downside or drawbacks.. it's all personal preference. I LOVED Oxygen when I was running it, but for me, the new features/tweaks/bugfixes of the CM7 nightlies just drew me in
Both have their own HBOOT, both support A2SD (though Cm7 is a seperate flashable zip) and both have a pretty stable following as far as theme support..
It really just comes down to you.. read through the threads/changelogs and see if one draws your attention more than the other.. remember, once you are rooted, it only takes a minute or two to flash a new ROM.. if you dont like the one you choose, try the other.

I find that CM7 actually works. I can't get Oxygen to install at all. The download messes up so the md5 is a mismatch and as such, when installed it doesn't. Just returns a bad request. But as mikeandjaimie said, there are very little differences. To be honest, you can't get someone to tell you what is better or not. It is down to you. Your own preference. Try them both out for a little bit and see which you like.

I've tried both over the last week (tried GingerVillain too) and I prefer Oxygen out of the 2 you mentioned. it's very basic, but I really like it. only had a problem with the Launcher Pro calendar widget, but everything else works fine. On CM I had some bad battery drain, but other people like it.

I actually managed to get Oxygen to work today and I am testing it a bit. Obviously there are still going to be bugs around but it's pretty stable. Oxygen is minimal. It uses the default Android launcher whereas CM7 uses ADWLauncher. I can't really tell the difference between them both really. Like I said above it is down to preference. There are no real differences at all.

mikeandjaimie said:
Both share most of the same basic features and neither really has a downside or drawbacks.. it's all personal preference. I LOVED Oxygen when I was running it, but for me, the new features/tweaks/bugfixes of the CM7 nightlies just drew me in
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What features do you prefer in CM7 as opposed to oxygen?
...just interested

Well I haven't used oxygen in a bit, but they hadn't added any of the CM specific tweaks and features yet.. mostly stuff like gestures, etc.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

CM patches are used for pretty much everything in Oxygen, so most features are alike. I like both, but prefer bleeding edge so CM nightlies FTW
Sent from a piece of ginger bread... Now with a little cyan tint

I have never used oxygen roms but its my first time to cyanogenmod 7 roms ever and I can say I am more then happy, I am have been using the first build nightly for well over a week now and its been absolutely fine, the only thing that does not work is video recording which but everyone is pre-warned about that until the nexus one files get dropped in.
Just flashed to 24th Feb nightly and still no hiccups, not getting the battery drain issues like people are posting, but there is no noticeable decrease or increase for me compared to the previous O2 branded froyo build.

what about ginger villain?

Haven't used CM7, but if you want a fast and lightweight ROM with excellent battery life (see the battery saving mods) then you cannot go wrong with Oxygen
Moreover,tt looks like now that the nexus one OTA has been extracted we will see a stable version of Oxygen very soon, so the problems with the Camcorder on RC7 (the dev didn't want any hacks in the ROM since he wanted it to be as stable as possible) will be ironed out!

Do both these have Bluetooth gamepad support
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

would love to see some posts with info about what made someone to move from one mod to another
(just a bump)

I loved Oxygen, loved it. Very fast and minimal allowing me to add to it the way I see fit, the way it should be really. Problem was I was one of the few that experienced bootloops constantly. On average once a day. Sometimes it would go into a boot loop at idle, and I wouldn't notice for over an hour, and by the time I got it back on, the screen being on and displaying the boot animation had drained some serious battery.
So I tried Ginger Villian, I had the same issue with bootloops, so I tried redux. I was quite happy with it, except it didn't work as a phone. It dropped calls every few minutes to multiple numbers, and it refused to send or recieve mms (Yes I checked the APNs). That's when I decided to try CM7, and found that it just works for me where the others didn't. Yes it's a little more heavily featured than I would like, yes it can be a bit laggy and slow every now and then, but it's the stability and reliability that keeps me here for the moment.
I wasn't S-Off when running Oxygen though, so I will delete the ext partition on my SD card and reinstall Oxygen with the oxygen hboot to see if maybe it makes a difference. Something must, there's a lot of people out there claiming to have never had a boot loop, though I would miss the T-Mobile theme enginge that CM7 ships with.
Probably more than you wanted to hear, but that's basically what made me jump from Oxygen to CM.

i really love a stable rom. that's why i prefer cyanogen and used cm6 for a long time. but i also want the latest android version. that's why i use oxygen at the moment until cm7 becomes "FINAL".
the most important thing about cm is that they do not modify the rom all the time. they create a rom, they test it as beta/rc (ONLY for bugfixing - no new (maybe buggy) features all the time) and one day you get a final rom which is no longer changed and STABLE.

I used CM6.1 for quite some time, I love AOSP ROMs, Ultralinx persuaded me to try Oxygen RC2 and I changed HBOOT to go with it. I love the minimalist, hack free aspect of the ROM. And because Oxygen 2.0.1 is so stable and lightweight, and that I can't be bothered to change HBOOT again I think I am going to stick with Oxygen until I am due to upgrade phones.

I used Oxygen since I first rooted, it was a froyo rom, but I used it all the way up to the most recent version. Today I tried cyanogenmod, just to see what differences (if any) there were.
So far, I've noticed the for a2sd+ on cm, you need to flash an additional script. But the main benefit of cm is that I can, for the first time since rooting, send mms again. I could receive them on oxygen no problem, but couldn't for the life send them. Definite benefit for me there.

hidinginthebush said:
I used Oxygen since I first rooted, it was a froyo rom, but I used it all the way up to the most recent version. Today I tried cyanogenmod, just to see what differences (if any) there were.
So far, I've noticed the for a2sd+ on cm, you need to flash an additional script. But the main benefit of cm is that I can, for the first time since rooting, send mms again. I could receive them on oxygen no problem, but couldn't for the life send them. Definite benefit for me there.
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Sorry of topic now but:
What do you mean by flashing a script for the app2sd? I only have a app called S2E, and an ext3 partition. And that app does the job, just by restarting my phone the apps moves to the ext3. But I do realize that my internalmemory goes down when I have a lot of apps. Like now i got 96 mb free. Am I doin it right?
Thanks

xziaz said:
Sorry of topic now but:
What do you mean by flashing a script for the app2sd? I only have a app called S2E, and an ext3 partition. And that app does the job, just by restarting my phone the apps moves to the ext3. But I do realize that my internalmemory goes down when I have a lot of apps. Like now i got 96 mb free. Am I doin it right?
Thanks
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Less than a minute of searching:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10675412&postcount=2

xziaz said:
Sorry of topic now but:
What do you mean by flashing a script for the app2sd? I only have a app called S2E, and an ext3 partition. And that app does the job, just by restarting my phone the apps moves to the ext3. But I do realize that my internalmemory goes down when I have a lot of apps. Like now i got 96 mb free. Am I doin it right?
Thanks
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If you haven't moved your dalvik cache to SD then your internal memory will decrease. Dalvik takes up so much storage space.

Question with Desire Roms, please help!!

Hi guys,
I got a Desire for testing, I'm trying to make it very stable with everything working. So I have been testing the following ROMS:
Stock (2.2): Very stable, bad energy management, no voice search, ran out of internal memory fast, you cannot switch 2G/3G easily.
Stock (2.3): Good, but wifi drops (Is there a solution for this?), voice search works.
CM7 (Any version, but I think I haven't tested the new RC2): Very good and fast, but the video app is bad I cannot play 720p MP4 (With the stock one it plays fine) I don't want to pay for a videoplayer when the stock and when a SMS is not delivered it doesn't show the option "Send again" (Yes, in some places where I got the network coverage sucks, so I need that feature), no voice search.
Oxygen: No radio FM (I use that), no send again in the sms and no 720p video player, no voice search. Fast.
Ledroid: I haven't had time to create a partition (In fact I need a faster SDCard), but if you use it, does it have voice search? Can you send again failed SMS? Radio FM? 720p video playback?
Sandvol ICS 0.7: Very fast! Good looking, no FM radio, no playback for 720p videos, didn't check about voice search and send again failed SMS. Had some crashing using the camera. I hope it keeps going to the 1.0 version.
So, will I have to create my own ROM (I wish).
Please help me.
It's easy I just want a 2.3 or ICS rom with FM radio, good video playback 720p, not bloatware, send again failed SMS, etc. Stable...!

http://forum.oxygen.im/viewtopic.php?id=2365
Android 2.3 - check.
FM support - check.
720p plaback - check.
No bloatware - check.
Everything working & stable - check.
You wont find anything better than that.
Use Oxygen r2 hboot if you're S-OFF.

k3lcior said:
"Web Address"
You wont find anything better than that.
Use Oxygen r2 hboot.
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Thanks for your fast answer, I have already tested oxygen 2.3.2. Is that a new version? I don't understand well.
Will it play 720p mp4 out of the box? FM radio?
Best regards.

peikojose said:
Thanks for your fast answer, I have already tested oxygen 2.3.2. Is that a new version? I don't understand well.
Will it play 720p mp4 out of the box? FM radio?
Best regards.
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Yes to both questions.

For the longest time I have been using the ROM in my signature as my daily driver. I liked the ring lockscreen etc but:
1. 2.3 with sense 2.1 / 3.0 or hybrids of the two
Battery life, it's abysmal compared to stock gb or froyo, even leedroid was waaaaaay better. Speed is good, but there is always some lag, if you count a steamboat or two after unlocking the screen then using it the lag is minimal. Battery life though, fantastic if you don't use your phone. If you use it, epecially for calls (you know, as a phone!) you can drain it fast
2. Sense 3.5 ROMs
All the eye candy is there. Truth be told, the sense 3.5 email app, and music are pretty sweet. The new amaze camera is awesome. There is much less lag with the lock screen too. Overall though, be prepared for lags, lockups, sense restarts, reboots et al. All of the runny ROMs, and I do mean all of them run fast and smooth for a few days, then lag immensly.
3. Gingerbread "stock / old" sense 1.9 ROMs
There are a few good ones, andler, droidzone, and coolsense are a few updated ones
Battery life is great on all of them, you can actually use your phone! Storage space is a non event (I run 130 apps) on all.
After much testing, because I got tired of constanly flashing new kernels in the search for the best speed / battery life compromise with sense 2.1 ROMs, I prefer coolsense 3.0 by coolexe. This ROM is a themed "old sense (1.9)", or basically stock gingerbread with a few extras, like quick settings on the notification menu. I have been on this for 2 weeks now, no slow downs, reboots, minimal lag (same as stock gb), and has all the features you asked about. I may have to change my sig soon, I may have found my new daily driver.
Sent from my GT-P7510 using XDA Premium HD app

k3lcior said:
Yes to both questions.
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Thanks for your fast answer. Can you check if a SMS fail can you longpress and "Send Again"?
What about apps2sd? Is it neeed?
Does if have wifi drops like Gingerbread?
Sorry for party asking, but I'm tired of reinstalling everything and configuring everyhting after installing a new ROM!

jmitr said:
For the longest time I have been using the ROM in my signature as my daily driver. I liked the ring lockscreen etc but:
1. 2.3 with sense 2.1 / 3.0 or hybrids of the two
Battery life, it's abysmal compared to stock gb or froyo, even leedroid was waaaaaay better. Speed is good, but there is always some lag, if you count a steamboat or two after unlocking the screen then using it the lag is minimal. Battery life though, fantastic if you don't use your phone. If you use it, epecially for calls (you know, as a phone!) you can drain it fast
2. Sense 3.5 ROMs
All the eye candy is there. Truth be told, the sense 3.5 email app, and music are pretty sweet. The new amaze camera is awesome. There is much less lag with the lock screen too. Overall though, be prepared for lags, lockups, sense restarts, reboots et al. All of the runny ROMs, and I do mean all of them run fast and smooth for a few days, then lag immensly.
3. Gingerbread "stock / old" sense 1.9 ROMs
There are a few good ones, andler, droidzone, and coolsense are a few updated ones
Battery life is great on all of them, you can actually use your phone! Storage space is a non event (I run 130 apps) on all.
After much testing, because I got tired of constanly flashing new kernels in the search for the best speed / battery life compromise with sense 2.1 ROMs, I prefer coolsense 3.0 by coolexe. This ROM is a themed "old sense (1.9)", or basically stock gingerbread with a few extras, like quick settings on the notification menu. I have been on this for 2 weeks now, no slow downs, reboots, minimal lag (same as stock gb), and has all the features you asked about. I may have to change my sig soon, I may have found my new daily driver.
Sent from my GT-P7510 using XDA Premium HD app
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Thanks for your answer!
Can you post the link for the "Coolsense 3.0 by Coolexe"?
What is your opinion about Leedroid?

peikojose said:
Thanks for your fast answer. Can you check if a SMS fail can you longpress and "Send Again"?
What about apps2sd? Is it neeed?
Does if have wifi drops like Gingerbread?
Sorry for party asking, but I'm tired of reinstalling everything and configuring everyhting after installing a new ROM!
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There are no sms issues.
About apps2sd read first post.
Never heard of it, did you tried updating radio?
Btw. i wouldnt call Sense roms "bloatware free", really.

k3lcior said:
There are no sms issues.
About apps2sd read first post.
Never heard of it, did you tried updating radio?
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There was a problem with gingebread droping wifi signal below 88 db, you can do a google search ( i cannot post links ).
I didn't try updating radio, I'm newbie still. If you have a link about that I'll appreciate it.
Best regards.

You need latest radio for GB ROM's that might be the problem with SMS and low wifi signal.
How to flash radio
Latest Radios

k3lcior said:
You need latest radio for GB ROM's that might be the problem with SMS and low wifi signal.
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Thanks for your answer.
I couldn't get here:
"5.When you are at the screen with the red triangle and the phone, plug in the usb cable"
Because I have installed revolutionary-0.4pre4
I'm open to ROM without Sense.
Edit: I'm checking and with the Stock ROM I have the latest radio "5.17.05.23". If I change the ROM, will I keep that radio?

And if i create a partition and use app2sd so I have more room, what would happen if I remove the sd card or connect the phone to the pc to transfer files?
Thanks!

Here is the link to coolsense
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1279016
Leedroid is good, but unless your comfortable tweaking on your own coolsense is more upto date.
You will need a a partioned SD card for most newer ROMs, use gparted. It is available as a bootable cd if you do not use a Linux distro.
Also, google alpha rev for mtd partions, then use fastboot manager or something similiar to quickly switch between hboots when testing ROMs.
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk 2

k3lcior said:
You need latest radio for GB ROM's that might be the problem with SMS and low wifi signal.
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I installed the rom you suggested, very good, vainilla stock GB 2.3, very light. No problem with SMS, FM Radio or Video playback, the only problem was that it seems to have the wifi problem. Under 88db it wouldn't detect wifi signal
I'm looking how to solve that to go back to that one!
Thanks

I am very happy with miui xj. Worth a try. Also, with fancy widgets you get the sense like weather and clock...

Battery life..

I'm running sms by rsk ROM, which is nice and stable, has the brilliant amaze cam (I like the panorama mode) and sticks everything on my 16gb sd card, so I don't worry about app storage.
Only problem I have, and it's a biggie, is battery life. I carry 2 spare batteries with me to see me through a day, lots of facebook, a bit of kindle, occasional angry birds..
So, what am I doing wrong? Should I change to a different rom, or a setting somewhere?
Thanks

Battery life is normally 1 day..depends how much is your device old

frosty68 said:
So, what am I doing wrong?
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You're not reading the forums.
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk 2

Thanks.
A bit more reading done and I flashed the ManU kernel, which not only killed wifi, but also added some interesting green stripes to the status bar (i did flash the gingerbread version), so I guess I got something wrong there
Going (back to?) the droidzone #18, wifi back working.
Now using Rom Toolbox to set cpu to Ondemand (was on performance) so I'm guessing that's going to make a big difference

Flashing aosp kernel on top of Sense rom is failblog material mate

erklat said:
Flashing aosp kernel on top of Sense rom is failblog material mate
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I guess I read enough to get just a little less information than I needed
Going for another install of the ROM, this time adding the rosie options which I think allows me a little more power tweaking...kinda embarrassing having friends with iphones have their phone last all day, while I change batteries after a few hours