[Q] where is defy's antenna located?? - Defy General

Hi. Could anyone tell me, in this pic, where is the radio atenna? Is it the sharp tower on the top of the board, above the camera? If so, could that mean that users are more prone to radiation?
Thanks.

Sure, just buy some anti-radiation patch to cover it up.
May as well put it in a copper-made safe.
Or just take some iodine tablets before you use the phone. (don't mind that cell phones don't make ionzing radiation)
Seriously, there's something called SAR rating, it's as good as it gets for laymen like us. Note that the value is different for US/UK... versions.

If a mobile was giving off radiation then I dont think it matters where the antenna is, its next to your head either way. Anyone worried about stuff like that should keep it at arms length and use handsfree or not buy one

Take more salt

ABC_Universal said:
Take more salt
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IANAP(hysicist), but according to what I've researched after the Japan earthquake, the radiation emitted by cellphones (non-ionizing) is quite different from that of materials for and generated by nuclear fission (ionizing).
Furthermore, taking salts (thus iodine) only helps you from absorbing radioactive iodine (iodine-131) into your body and kill your thyroid. It can not help you stop absorbing radiation.

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Is my Rhodium Safe ???

Cell phones emit radiation to send voice and text messages to the other caller. This we already Know .. Right ??
Well How do u feel, when u get to know that Rhodium is placed in top 20 mobiles based on d highest SAR value ..
Link to SAR values of Htc -http://www.sarshield.com/english/radiationchart-htc.htm
Top 20 Mobiles With highest values - http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6602_7-5020357-1.html
(Even though Rhodium not listed at the bottom i assume that it can be listed @ d 19th or 20th position due to its high values )
So i wanted to know if there is someway we can reduce the values ( Radiations) By applyin some software tweaks.... ??
How on earth have you come to the conclusions that it is 19th or 20th?
Its rating is 1.41 which is 0.4 lower than 19th and 19th is 0.4 lower than 13th - go figure
You don't work for the statistics department at the Daily Mail, do you?
ahnikhil said:
Cell phones emit radiation to send voice and text messages to the other caller. This we already Know .. Right ??
Well How do u feel, when u get to know that Rhodium is placed in top 20 mobiles based on d highest SAR value ..
Link to SAR values of Htc -http://www.sarshield.com/english/radiationchart-htc.htm
Top 20 Mobiles With highest values - http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6602_7-5020357-1.html
(Even though Rhodium not listed at the bottom i assume that it can be listed @ d 19th or 20th position due to its high values )
So i wanted to know if there is someway we can reduce the values ( Radiations) By applyin some software tweaks.... ??
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At work, I take my phone out of my pocket. At lunch I set it on the table. On my ride home I take it out of my pocket and hook it up to my 3mm jack. At home, I place it on my desk.
The phone obviously puts out some nasty stuff, be smart and don't carry it around in your pocket at all times.
There is no risk at all with radiation. Take this into consideration.
Your phone broadcasts at we will say 1 watt of radiation power. This is a conservative number being that phones typically radiate 1/4 watt. A radio tower can broadcast at around 50,000 watts. So if you stand anywhere near the tower you are getting so much more radiation. And the higher frequency signals in your phone penetrate less into you skin than do the radio tower low frequencies. So you have nothing to worry about.
You may not believe this but in todays world of things to worry about being killed by my cell phone is at the bottom of the list.
HT
of course cell phones emit radiation. thats what radio signals are. if you want a cellphone that doesnt emit radiation, you can find a nice piece of plastic instead. just saying: the laptop in your hands is probably releasing more radiation.
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of course cell phones emit radiation. thats what radio signals are. if you want a cellphone that doesnt emit radiation, you can find a nice piece of plastic instead. just saying: the laptop in your hands is probably releasing more radiation.
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Ah but the plastic is probably outgassing some sort of Toxic fumes or is made in China with somthing lead based. You could the two cans and a string method but that has issues as well. Was the can cleaned or does it have bacteria hiding in it? And then there is the whole mobility issue of having the string getting caught on everything.
I think its best if you fall back on the old stand by of shouting. If you have to make a long distance call then cup your hands around your mouth.
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Ah but the plastic is probably outgassing some sort of Toxic fumes or is made in China with somthing lead based. You could the two cans and a string method but that has issues as well. Was the can cleaned or does it have bacteria hiding in it? And then there is the whole mobility issue of having the string getting caught on everything.
I think its best if you fall back on the old stand by of shouting. If you have to make a long distance call then cup your hands around your mouth.
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I think progressive soup has a big network of string/cans...maybe you can hack into their system
There is the big yellow ball of radiation in the sky everyday. If you have ever been outside you have been exposed to a lot worse radiation than you are ever going to get from your phone or microwave oven. I suggest a full tin foil body wrap
a 3cm led fareday cage. tbh youre probably getting more toxic radiation from the remnants of when the first atomic bomb went off.

[Q] Magnetic Floatation Holder.

Hi there, I am currently making a magnetic floatation holder compatible with any android phone. I recently came across these threads and was wondering if anybody knew how I could shield the internal apparatus from magnetic interference? The phones are currently floating in mid air within the holder box but they refuse to function correctly due to the immensely powerful magnetic field surrounding it. Any advise at all would be greatly appreciated?
Have you tried a rubber lining? That may help...
Tried many linings
Hi, thanks for the speedy response. I have tried everything from Aerospace Aluminium, plastic, rubber and Titanium. The only material that currently works is lead and that has to be 3mm thick which makes it way too heavy. If there is maybe anyone you know that could literally coat each mechanism and distribution board within the device with lead that would be great but also impractical for multiple cellphone compatibility. I am sooo close but yet soo far. I have managed to adjust the magnetic frequency to allow minimal interference but it still leads variable damage in multiple areas. I have recently applied for a patent but I pray I can find an unknown material. I am just missing something but cannot put my finger on it. Anyways thanks for your kind response but I am 2 minutes away from burning everything......Sooo frustrating. If you come up with any ideas pweeez let me know, my brain is fried.
Thanks Guys and Dols
Thanks for your help KT, I managed to get in touch with one of the guys responsible for Maglev train magnetic composite technologies and he agreed to help me for a small percentage of total profits. It will be ready about March next year for initial testing, maybe you guys at XDA can use a few 1hundred units for testing? It seems to me this is the best arena to get a feel for the product? Thanks anyway, I will be looking into it.
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I'm extremely confused to why u would need this... Even more confused about how u would market them...
Great Toy, Looks Alien.
Don't you just hate scratched cellphone/tablet screens. Well now(4months time in S.A) you can simply throw your phone into the invisible magnetic field and when there is no contact with the ground your face cannot be scratched. When you get into your car, simply plug it into your sig lighter and your phone etc can be held in mid air. No more key scratches, no more make-up marks on your device. And it looks really space age, your glowing Android etc phone hovering in mid air. And it will also charge automatically while in the magnetic spectrum. Use it as a night clock/light and place it on(or rather over) your night stand table.
Well at least I hope people would use this because I have spent an infinite amount of time and energy, not to mention hard capital, on this adventure of mine. The ride has been great and tough at times but hopefully the law of thermodynamics will ensure at least a 60% return on energy invested. The guys at Maglev where ecstatic so I am sure they would not help me out as they have unless they knew it was a sure bet. Anyways, thanks for the constructive criticism.
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Don't you just hate scratched cellphone/tablet screens. Well now(4months time in S.A) you can simply throw your phone into the invisible magnetic field and when there is no contact with the ground your face cannot be scratched. When you get into your car, simply plug it into your sig lighter and your phone etc can be held in mid air. No more key scratches, no more make-up marks on your device. And it looks really space age, your glowing Android etc phone hovering in mid air. And it will also charge automatically while in the magnetic spectrum. Use it as a night clock/light and place it on(or rather over) your night stand table.
Well at least I hope people would use this because I have spent an infinite amount of time and energy, not to mention hard capital, on this adventure of mine. The ride has been great and tough at times but hopefully the law of thermodynamics will ensure at least a 60% return on energy invested. The guys at Maglev where ecstatic so I am sure they would not help me out as they have unless they knew it was a sure bet. Anyways, thanks for the constructive criticism.
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My 2c (worth even less )
It sounds very cool, and very techy and geeky, however I don't know if I see the mass market potential for this type of device?
Also I have a couple of questions:
Does the phone hold its position once placed in the magnetic field? Or is it able to rotate freely?
What about the potential effects on wristwatches and other non sheilded devices? I don't want to put my phone in a mag field and have my watch go blank.
That being said I wish you luck - hopefully I'm wrong and you can retire on this idea
Spot On
You are absolutely correct, containment, extrapolation, dispersion on a lateral effect and cross intensification are issues that are currently being worked on. As of yet nobody in S.A has the mechanical techniques nor tools that I require to enclose the radial disturbance, only one company in Germany can manage the calibration needed. And this has only recently been developed through discoveries made on the Large Hadron Collider. Fortunately, the guys at Maglev's, ITSC, have a ready made and diverse magnetic operating coil for my device. With ought going into all the technical babble, I have got a free travel package to Germany next month and they say my mind will be blown away when I see the solution they came up with. And, retirement, no way, my brain could not handle being idle for 5 seconds. These guys are brilliant, I gave them blueprints a week ago and they already have a model I need to sign off on. So I am sure all your devices will not be affected in any way. Gonna hit the waves now, have not surfed in 3weeks. I hope I can count on xda to distribute a few working units when I get back? When you guys O.K a device, it's future is certain.....
I'm a novice so this might be stupid. Your focus seems to be on insulation. Have you tried going the opposite way? Maybe construct some sort of golden faraday cage?
Also, If I got one of those testing units, that would be tits.
im not certian a faraday cage would work. but it would definately be worth trying, not gold though (gold wont conduct magentic flux very well), ferrite, iron, anything that conducts magnetism very well with very little remaining magnetic field when the source is removed (there is a property specified for that, but i cant remember the name). had part would be covering the screen and not being an eyesore. im not gonna watch the thread so OP can pm me for a bit more info if they wish.
any snap shots i know it might be a no but i really want to see this very intrested
Hey sorry, been out of town for a few days. No problem, as soon as I got the reworked casings in place I can send you a pic. Just a tad dicey at the moment due to copy right etc. Oh and brilliant, the Faraday cage worked perfectly in my initial testing +-1year ago but it blocked the entire device off and stopped easy insertion of the phone. All the kinks are pretty much sorted, you can throw the phone from 3metres away and the field will capture it. Received a vid from MGLEV tests, it was lank hilarious, I am so stoked my baby is almost sorted. thanks guys for input, how can I get in touch with xda management, want to organize initial releases for +- 1000 members? Just require delivery reception details and a few agreements, no cost to you at xda at all? Thank you, God Bless.
I think this guy is screwing with us. He sound like a back to the future movie.
And you waited all this time to tell us? (read the last date it was posted).
I see what you mean though, kinda too good to be true or, at least, too expensive to buy commercially
This is not too good to be true. The magnetic levitation technique has been demonstrated even with living beings in lab. There are adornments in market that float in free air with magnetic levitation.
http://www.google.com/search?source...pw.r_cp.&fp=200a4278d8f8f451&biw=1024&bih=655
However, I guess it's far fetched to use it for cellphones since the inteference and damage to components will be too high. However, I doubt the authenticity of this post as MagLev trains have little in their design that'd help shielding a mobile phone.
If scratched surfaces annoy you, use a woolen holder.
hmmm any updates?
I'd love to do testing; got like 4 different phones to test with

Betavoltaic Supplementary Battery that lasts 12 years?

Hi, I searched and cannot find this topic anywhere, but I had an idea and I'm wondering if its dumb. Also not sure if this is the right place for it.
Betavoltaic batteries are batteries that use nuclear decay to generate power. They do this somewhat like solar panels, only the nuclear material is emitting beta particales, or rather, electrons. And a semiconducting material is used to collect the electrons and turn it into usable current. Right now they are looking at using them for pace maker batteries because the material they use is safe.
Tritium is the material they will use, the beta particles it emits cannot penetrate a piece of paper let alone skin so it is safe unless ingested. Tritium has a half life of 12 years, so they would be useful for at least 6 years. And they can be made small or large.
Could we use a betavoltaic battery to keep our phones charged? Now I know that it would be difficult to generate enough power to run the phone on betavoltaics alone, the output is very small, but what if we had a 500-1000mah battery tied into a betavoltaic battery that would trickle charge the battery when not in use?
Or maybe even just make a extended case like we have now, that have batteries in them, only its betavoltaic!
I'm just imagining never plugging in my phone again, just leaving on my bed stand, its charging away, and in my pocket all day long, charging away.
I LOVE this thought, if it were possible!
I know I could have explained this a lot better, but do you get the idea? Does someone who is more knowledgeable than myself have any comments or criticism as to how it would work? Could work? Or wouldn't work?
Thanks for your time,
-Tom
EDIT: looking closer at THIS source I listed, I realized a company already had the idea for this battery for use in cell phones. But their website is down :/
Some sources: http://peswiki.com/energy/PowerPedia:Beta_voltaic
http://peswiki.com/energy/Directory:BetaVoltaics
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betavoltaics
I know it is long but please read everything before replying
Initially, the idea sounds extremely dangerous. What if the battery is opened or falls apart and the nuclear substance falls out? You will have to quarantine the area. Looking deeper, when a substance undergoes nuclear decay, it releases a range of three things: alpha, beta and gamma. These things are quite dangerous. You mentioned beta, which is identical to an electron. If this is fired at you, it could ionize an atom in your body and this can lead to a range of things like death, prolonged critical illness etc.
You are wrong about the tritium part. All substances give off three ranges of things like I mentioned. Beta will always penetrate through a lot of things. It is alpha that won't. You may have confused the two. Alpha was the substance used to kill the Russian ambassador a while back. He ingested it and died. And it cannot be traced since it is distributed by the digestive system and cannot penetrate so cannot be detected outside the body.
Theoretically, the idea is fullproof. But it doesn't seem practical AT THE MOMENT. Maybe later on. I assume they are still working on the idea. I mean, they are working on wireless charging for gawd sake. It won't be long since this concept is a reality.
Thankyou very much for the post Tom. It feels great to reaccess the science I learnt in school. Please do not be offended by the "YOU ARE WRONG" part. Only trying to help you to improve. You may want to research into the science first. I just get a bit picky at these sort of things. After having a quick look over my stuff I could spot a few errors.
You were unlucky to get someone like me to reply with my nerdy science
Never thought I would discuss this in an Android forum though.
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Thank you very much for your reply, I did not realize there was so much to it! I'm mobile right now, but I will respond more fully when I get home tonight. I'm not offended at all, I'm glad someone more knowledgeable can explain it to me and others who might search for the same question.
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What a load of bull.. misinformation and paranoia. Let's start from the top.
Deftone said:
What if the battery is opened or falls apart and the nuclear substance falls out?
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It's quite easy to enclose battery (or at least radioactive part) in such a way that it's at least very hard compromise the shielding. Full metal casing and you are done.
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You will have to quarantine the area.
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Another false statement. It's not a nuclear fallout from A-bomb or powerplant-gone-wrong that spreads with the wind. It's usually solid piece of material, I can't imagine anyone building battery with amount of radioactive material that needed more than couple of meters to be safe. Tritium is a gas (isotope of hydrogen) and if released would quickly dissipate and be harmless. You can buy keychains filled with tritium so they glow.
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Looking deeper, when a substance undergoes nuclear decay, it releases a range of three things: alpha, beta and gamma. These things are quite dangerous. You mentioned beta, which is identical to an electron. If this is fired at you, it could ionize an atom in your body and this can lead to a range of things like death, prolonged critical illness etc. You are wrong about the tritium part. All substances give off three ranges of things like I mentioned. Beta will always penetrate through a lot of things. It is alpha that won't. You may have confused the two.
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When substance undergoes decay it CAN release ONE OR MORE of the three types of radiation you mentioned. Not all nuclear decay processes produces all three.
Alpha particle is helium nucleus, that is two protons and two neutrons
Beta particle IS an electron
Gamma is high energy photon
There is also (often ignored but no less dangerous) neutron radiation (stream of neutrons)
While you are right that it COULD ionize an atom in body, that's no big deal. If it damages DNA it has CHANCE of causing some form of cancer. Other than that worst case scenario is that affected cell dies and is replaced by another. Of course if radiation intensity is high enough it can cause radiation poisoning, but again I don't believe anyone would build battery that would contain enough radioactive material to cause that unless eaten.
YOU are wrong about the tritium. It can't produce alpha radiation since one alpha particle is bigger than entire tritium atom. Only things that tritium produces during its natural decay (not to be mistaken with forced fussion like in hydrogen bomb) is Helium-3 ion, electron (beta radiation) and antyneutrino which is harmless since it almost does not interact with normal matter.
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Alpha was the substance used to kill the Russian ambassador a while back. He ingested it and died. And it cannot be traced since it is distributed by the digestive system and cannot penetrate so cannot be detected outside the body.
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I'm assuming that you are refering to poisoning of Alexander Litvinenko, KGB agent that fled to UK? He wasn't killed by some "alpha substance" but by polonium-210, radioactive isotope. It can be quite easily traced since investigators of the case discovered who brought it to UK, where and when it was produced and where it was given to target. On the other hand it's true that it's quite hard to diagnose. Half-life of polonium is about 140 days, so it's a lot more active than tritium that has 12 year half life.
Deftone said:
Theoretically, the idea is fullproof. But it doesn't seem practical AT THE MOMENT. Maybe later on. I assume they are still working on the idea. I mean, they are working on wireless charging for gawd sake. It won't be long since this concept is a reality.
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This concept is a reality for a long time now. Nuclear batteries (betavoltaic ones) are in service since 1973 in peacemakers. The only problem is that they have very low output and efficiency.
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Thankyou very much for the post Tom. It feels great to reaccess the science I learnt in school. (I am actually still using this level of science in university). Please do not be offended by the "YOU ARE WRONG" part. Only trying to help you to improve. You may want to research into the science first. I just get a bit picky at these sort of things.
You were unlucky to get someone like me to reply with my nerdy science
Never thought I would discuss this in an Android forum though.
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I suggest that you sue your school if that's where you learned this. It's quite amusing how you go on about researching the science before posting when you clearly didn't do it yourself.
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Sorry about flaming, but I'm a bit alergic to people using false or inaccurate information to scare people away from nuclear technology.
For low energy beta sources like mentioned tritium lead isn't necessary. Couple milimeters of aluminium is enough.
As for authorities wanting to remove uranium I'm holding - I would like them to remove it. But it wouldn't require bomb squad, just a guy with tongs and shielded container. If such batteries started being mass produced there would have to be provided a way for user to dispose of it safely so that it doesn't end up on landfill. But since there are (at least here in Poland, or rather EU) trashcans specifically for bateries, only some mechanism forcing people to use them would be needed.
The fact that current nuclear batteries are too weak to be practical in mobile devices (or would contain too much radioactive material to be safe if made big enough) doesn't defeat my point at all. I wasn't trying to prove that this is fantastic solution - It's not. I would rather have nuclear reactor in my basement (I read something about Toshiba making self contained nuclear reactors that didn't need servicing, they would only replace whole unit after about five years) and charge my lithium batteries from that. I was just pointing out how much you overreacted about potential risks.
The only two types of nuclear batteries that would be as unsafe as you say are:
thermoelectric batteries (ball of plutonium heating itself up and thermocouples producing energy from that head - Curiosity rover has 4kg of plutonium dioxide providing it with 2kW of power, most deep space probes are powered this way, even some satelites), since they contain big amounts of radioactive materials
optoelectric batteries that contain it's radioactive material in form of fine dust suspended in gas under high pressure - if container would be punctured high velocity jet of this radioactive dust causing contamination. While this type of power generation is more efficient than betavoltaics they are deemed too unsafe to be used anywhere but in space.
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So we are going to have small Chernobyl in our phones? Cant wait for it :d
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POOOOOLSKAAAAA BIALO CZERWONIIII!!!
Very bad idea. Too costly, too dangerous, not enough power. Maybe viable for sat phones for expeditions, but not much else.

[Q] Considering purchasing a ZenWatch, but...

So, after an extremely difficult to explain accident my Motorola MotoACTV has basically given up the ghost. I'm lookin' into the newer Android wear devices for a replacement, and I'm wondering: How'd a ZenWatch do me? Seems that's the most unanimously recommended model and the current pricing is good. My main concern lies mostly with the durability of the device - I work as a frycook so this thing's gonna have to withstand some fairly high temperatures. Any concerns there (or otherwise) I should know of? Thanks!
I'm not sure how the face/battery/housing would hold up to heat. But, you would probably want to look into replacing the stock leather wristband with something metal. The leather holds up extremely well to casual sweat and water, but I assume hot greases and oils as well as extended exposure to cleaning solutions would be rough on it.
The watch is currently on a short term sale for $150.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...00010_zenwatch_android_smartwatch_brown.html#
Other things to consider. The Zenwatch 2 has been announced, so the first one won't be cutting edge for very long if that matters to you. Also, if you really are in semi extreme conditions due to your job, you may want to look at some options geared more towards athletes and are built to take a beating. This one is very attractive and doesn't appear to be fragile, but it's definitely not sporty.
Thanks for the advice! I might go with the current model just to save some cash, though waiting for the 2 is tempting! is anything out there right now so far as hardware specs or software-level improvements?
With regards to the work environment issues I actually can't imagine things being too much of a problem (though i defs should get a metal band and I'll wanna keep up on keeping the device clean) - worst case scenario I can always wear my trusty Casio Telememo 30 to work and save the ZenWatch for less potentially hazardous conditions! My MotoACTV did fine, I should note.
I think it would be a good choice, there is certainly nothing in the next version that makes me want to upgrade. And there are plenty of cheap metal bands out there - I use this one at the moment and it is very good:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/400892494610?euid=87af0097fb9d4ac4b96ba89b1a162e5d&cp=1

Magnetic full body case any good?

Does anyone have experience with this case?
https://www.amazon.com/ZHIKE-Magnet...t=&hvlocphy=9030800&hvtargid=pla-780766905303
My fear is that if one were to drop the device the case would come apart on impact and fly off, therefore leaving the device exposed to bounce around unprotected. I really like this case though.
Any thoughts?
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Does anyone have experience with this case?
https://www.amazon.com/ZHIKE-Magnet...t=&hvlocphy=9030800&hvtargid=pla-780766905303
My fear is that if one were to drop the device the case would come apart on impact and fly off, therefore leaving the device exposed to bounce around unprotected. I really like this case though.
Any thoughts?
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Pretty sure that's already been discussed elsewhere, apparently cases using magnets mess with the GPS, I wouldn't trust it to protect the phone at all though.
Been using this one from day 1 without any problems:
https://www.amazon.it/gp/product/B01BWKZSUS/
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I did have one very similar (found on a Facebook ad and figured I'd try it, probably same product just rebranded) and it definitely did negatively impact my GPS performance, so now I'm back to using the clear case that came with the phone unfortunately. It also let a decent bit of pocket lint and dust get in between the screen and the case as well, so you'd have to constantly take it apart and clean it just for it to get dirty again almost immediately. Great idea for a product, but it ends up delivering a poor user experience.
I can tell from past experiences, not all magnetic cases are created equal lol. I love them, but the ones for the OnePlus 7 pro suck. Lint and dust collect horribly. GPS goes haywire, and the magnets also screw with the phones reception. I could go from full bars, and perfect signal without a case, to no signal at all with the case on.
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Pretty sure that's already been discussed elsewhere, apparently cases using magnets mess with the GPS, I wouldn't trust it to protect the phone at all though.
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you really should stop spreading misinformation...
magnets = compass
GPS = satellites/WiFi/Bluetooth
two very different things..
Sourcing: https://itstillworks.com/magnet-damage-gps-12185913.html
plasticarmyman said:
you really should stop spreading misinformation...
magnets = compass
GPS = satellites/WiFi/Bluetooth
two very different things..
Sourcing: https://itstillworks.com/magnet-damage-gps-12185913.html
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...and you really should read the forum posts of users, who have actually bought these cases, who have said they definitely noticed a degradation in the quality of GPS performance, I didn't make it up for fun.
Quite apart from any modification of the signals to the phone, however debatatable it might be, they provide completely inadequate protection, especially from drop/shock damage, which is the primary purposes of a phone case.
They're gimmicks, nothing more.
djsubterrain said:
...and you really should read the forum posts of users, who have actually bought these cases, who have said they definitely noticed a degradation in the quality of GPS performance, I didn't make it up for fun.
Quite apart from any modification of the signals to the phone, however debatatable it might be, they provide completely inadequate protection, especially from drop/shock damage, which is the primary purposes of a phone case.
They're gimmicks, nothing more.
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anecdotal evidence doesn't equal proof.
the science and facts of how GPS work disprove any of that...
it is not debatable at all.
Magnets have zero to do with GPS on our phones regardless of what you've read from individual people saying so...there are far too many other outliers that would cause issues compared to Magents.
like seriously...read the article i posted, it has 4 sources attached to it.
STOP spreading misinformation.
plasticarmyman said:
anecdotal evidence doesn't equal proof.
the science and facts of how GPS work disprove any of that...
it is not debatable at all.
Magnets have zero to do with GPS on our phones regardless of what you've read from individual people saying so...there are far too many other outliers that would cause issues compared to Magents.
like seriously...read the article i posted, it has 4 sources attached to it.
STOP spreading misinformation.
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I can speak only for myself that the magnetic case for the OnePlus 7 pro does effect the GPS. Without the case my GPS is perfectly reliable. With it keeps on re routing and telling me I'm not where I actually am.
But I've used magnetic cases on other phones and everything was perfectly fine
plasticarmyman said:
anecdotal evidence doesn't equal proof.
the science and facts of how GPS work disprove any of that...
it is not debatable at all.
Magnets have zero to do with GPS on our phones regardless of what you've read from individual people saying so...there are far too many other outliers that would cause issues compared to Magents.
like seriously...read the article i posted, it has 4 sources attached to it.
STOP spreading misinformation.
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Bro stop if you've never used these piece of **** cases. I've have 2 and they both effect gps, wifi, and cell signal. Do you believe everything you read? How about you throw your money away on one of these awesome cases....it would be more beneficial to your argument than just presenting articles to disprove an actual owner of one.
LOL yeah.... science is totally wrong and fake...
Whatever...you can believe whatever pseudoscience you want.
The magnets don't have anything to do with GPS, it is something else not the magnets. This is simple facts.
The compass is controlled by magnets, that is all.
There is no disputing that.
I've been using a magnetic case I from amazon and I have zero issues with GPS or signal....since you know....magnets don't mess with GPS signal.
If they did...why would people use magnetic car mounts? Yeah....its because there's no issues with gps and magnets.
Well, i think the magnets could mess with compass especially while using GPS. I have a magnetic car mount and when i use maps it will frequently change directions sometimes when I'm driving thinking i turned left or right when i am still going straight. When this happens i have to adjust the mount so it's not sitting in the same spot which fixes the issue. I don't have this problem when using the x-mount on my Harley or when i have the phone in my hand or lap when driving my wife's car.

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