Related
I'm running stock Sprint 6.1. My question is, when I go to the Messages tab, click on the latest message, it shows all of my texts on top and the texts I received last. It's not true threaded sms. Am I missing something, or is clicking on "All Messages" and using the WinMo interface really the easiest way? I think TF3D is much better and more productive all around, except for this. It doesn't seem very thought through.
ew2x4 said:
I'm running stock Sprint 6.1. My question is, when I go to the Messages tab, click on the latest message, it shows all of my texts on top and the texts I received last. It's not true threaded sms. Am I missing something, or is clicking on "All Messages" and using the WinMo interface really the easiest way? I think TF3D is much better and more productive all around, except for this. It doesn't seem very thought through.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The Messages Tab does not support threaded messaging. It only supports a chronological order - but it only sorts messages starting with the newest message - from anybody.
When entering the WM interface in "All Messages", that's when threading is supported. By threading, it means when you click on the person, you see your whole "conversation"; not just you see all your messages in a chronological order.
Well, in other words, I don't know of any tweak to enable a chronological order in which the oldest message comes first in Manila. Nor do I know of any tweak to view conversations ("threads") in the Manila interface.
*Bolded: you can see messages you sent? I never got that on my old T-Mo stock ROM!
sumflipnol said:
The Messages Tab does not support threaded messaging. It only supports a chronological order - but it only sorts messages starting with the newest message - from anybody.
When entering the WM interface in "All Messages", that's when threading is supported. By threading, it means when you click on the person, you see your whole "conversation"; not just you see all your messages in a chronological order.
Well, in other words, I don't know of any tweak to enable a chronological order in which the oldest message comes first in Manila. Nor do I know of any tweak to view conversations ("threads") in the Manila interface.
*Bolded: you can see messages you sent? I never got that on my old T-Mo stock ROM!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
When I go to the Messages tab, it just shows the last received text. When I click on it, is where I see the "threaded" texts with mine above and received below. They're in chronological order, but separated by sent and received. I was looking to see if they can mix so they are all in chronological order.
ew2x4 said:
When I go to the Messages tab, it just shows the last received text. When I click on it, is where I see the "threaded" texts with mine above and received below. They're in chronological order, but separated by sent and received. I was looking to see if they can mix so they are all in chronological order.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oh, well sorry for the confusion in my post!
I think the only thing the Messages Tab supports is Inbox messages in chronological order with latest first, oldest last.
However, I'll try to look for some fixes that might work for you.
sumflipnol said:
Oh, well sorry for the confusion in my post!
I think the only thing the Messages Tab supports is Inbox messages in chronological order with latest first, oldest last.
However, I'll try to look for some fixes that might work for you.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No problem, I could have been more clearer. I think I'm a visual person. Thanks for the help! Looking forward to seeing what you can find.
ew2x4 said:
No problem, I could have been more clearer. I think I'm a visual person. Thanks for the help! Looking forward to seeing what you can find.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hmm... I can't find anything!
I guess not many people mind it. I hope someone has a fix with them that they can post here because I've been searching, and all I can find are tweaks to change the tab themes and fonts.
sumflipnol said:
Hmm... I can't find anything!
I guess not many people mind it. I hope someone has a fix with them that they can post here because I've been searching, and all I can find are tweaks to change the tab themes and fonts.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You are experiencing some kind of bug. The TouchFlo threading is supposed to work just like the WM default threading. They are also both incredibly slow if you have more than 10 messages.
Interesting. Thanks for your time, sumflipnol.
petard said:
You are experiencing some kind of bug. The TouchFlo threading is supposed to work just like the WM default threading. They are also both incredibly slow if you have more than 10 messages.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The only layout I've ever seen on the Manila Messaging Tab (on every ROM I've used), is chronological Inbox messages with the most recent message first. I don't know how to set it to a different layout (outbox, conversation, most recent last) in the Tab.
On the tab it is chronological, but when you click one of the messages (anywhere on the text) you are taking into a manila style conversation view.
It IS a bug. Something jacked up since the new year!
Check the date on all your incoming messages.. mine show year 2016!
All sent messages get the correct date... so this is why they are cut in half (some on top, some on bottom).
WTF HTC?????????
Y210K bug get you?
My latest received message says 1/4/16, my reply, 1/4/10
Interesting enough, if I use windows mobile app, the date/threading works fine, so it is a problem with HTC.
andy.schmid said:
It IS a bug. Something jacked up since the new year!
Check the date on all your incoming messages.. mine show year 2016!
All sent messages get the correct date... so this is why they are cut in half (some on top, some on bottom).
WTF HTC?????????
Y210K bug get you?
My latest received message says 1/4/16, my reply, 1/4/10
Interesting enough, if I use windows mobile app, the date/threading works fine, so it is a problem with HTC.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yeah i guess thats why, Manila couldnt match the dates to view the conversation of the SMSes correctly.
and btw, there is a fix for the 2016 thingy, a cab, i saw it somewhere around ehre
UPDATE - Just called HTC... they say they are aware of the issue and they are working to get it resolved asap. Couldn't give me an ETA or how the fix would be distributed.
Looks like you guys are faster then HTC
I did a search for 2016 and saw many other people have posted this problem as well as some fixes.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5273855
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=11827
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.php?p=1454414&postcount=1
petard said:
On the tab it is chronological, but when you click one of the messages (anywhere on the text) you are taking into a manila style conversation view.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oh, sorry. I know about that.
I just have it disabled because I'm using an old version of the "Disable HTC Messaging Client" cab (I hate the Leo messaging, and this cab also disables all HTC Messaging), so that doesn't launch for me anymore!
Sorry about the confusion guys.
Hey there,
I just unpacked my T-Mobile USA Vibrant (modified Galaxy S). I love the phone, but as always, there are things that I think are missing. So I played around a little bit with it and one thing kept bothering me.
The phone integrates all my Facebook contacts, which is great. But I think it would be a slick feature if you could actually send them a message directly from the contact list. As of now, I have to go into a browser or use the FB app to send messages and I think it would be a lot more convenient to just go into the contact and send a message from there (like a text basically).
Does anybody now if there is an app or some piece of software that can help me out here? If not, do you even think it is possible to do it? I am not a developer, but I can imagine there are some issues, cause as far as I know Samsung didn't open there UI code for developers yet (or showed any intention of doing it).
So I am excited what you guys think of that and hope there is a solution somewhere out there
Phill
edit: I just saw there is a specific Vibrant forum. If the admins would like to put this post in the right place I would appreciate it. However, I think the issue is omnipresent among all versions of the SGS.
This would be a fantastic mod for contacts I would think I don't know why someone hasn't done this previously. I think if we get the guy doing the standard froyo / eclair dialler / contacts mod to do this it will be extremely innovative.
Contacts -> Groups -> Facebook -> menu -> Send message -> Choose recipient
Wow, long path... Should work though.
hey yea that works. but it is kind of a long way dont you think? Thanks anyway, it got me one step closer What I think would be a tremendous improve is to add the fb msg feature directly to the first contact screen. You know, when you slide left on a contact for texting and right for calling. If there is no number available but a fb contact it should automatically go to the fb messaging.
I have searched many forums and the market to no avail so I was hoping someone here could help.
Is there any way we, android users, can get a function similar to iOS4 users with their "group mms" option. To those of you not familiar, its basically a chat room like feature that uses your text messages. For example, if I were to create a new text on the iphone, I could add more people to it. Once it's sent out, if anyone replies, that reply will go to all of those in the group and so forth. In essence, a chat room is created where everyone receives a copy of everyone else's text.
At any rate, a few of my friends have iphones and I was hoping to be able to communicate with them in such a manner but neither the stock messaging application or handcent has this function. The few options that might work would involve having all of my friends download some new app along with myself and even that doesn't work all the time.
ANY help would be much appreciated.
bump to the top
bump to top
this would be helpful for me also as i communicate with multiple people. As of right now i just email stuff out to them so we can all see the replies. To have this on text would be awsome.
I would also like to setup groups so i can just select 1 group to text. I had this on my treo pro and it disappeared when i went to these new smart phones.
As far as I know, there is no such feature currently available without the use of third-party applications (that use data to do it).
Sorry
Maybe someone will build that feature eventually lol
The iPhone's ability to 'group chat' is just Apple being smart about the fact that MMS message details contain all recipients. They simply made their SMS app able to receive all the recipients and reply to all as a group.
An Android app like Go SMS or HandCent (or Google's stock app) could easily be modified to work just like this, if someone would do it.
dcdttu said:
The iPhone's ability to 'group chat' is just Apple being smart about the fact that MMS message details contain all recipients. They simply made their SMS app able to receive all the recipients and reply to all as a group.
An Android app like Go SMS or HandCent (or Google's stock app) could easily be modified to work just like this, if someone would do it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I wish someone would do it already, I felt pretty stupid the other day when I was in a group text with a couple people with iPhones and didn't know it.
App in the market called groupme works perfect even though this thread is super old lol.
dirkyd3rk said:
App in the market called groupme works perfect even though this thread is super old lol.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
lol last reply was may 25th, i swear that was last week! just playing but group me didn't work. It's all good, I'm hoping Android implements a feature like this soon...
stryker707 said:
I have searched many forums and the market to no avail so I was hoping someone here could help.
Is there any way we, android users, can get a function similar to iOS4 users with their "group mms" option. To those of you not familiar, its basically a chat room like feature that uses your text messages. For example, if I were to create a new text on the iphone, I could add more people to it. Once it's sent out, if anyone replies, that reply will go to all of those in the group and so forth. In essence, a chat room is created where everyone receives a copy of everyone else's text.
At any rate, a few of my friends have iphones and I was hoping to be able to communicate with them in such a manner but neither the stock messaging application or handcent has this function. The few options that might work would involve having all of my friends download some new app along with myself and even that doesn't work all the time.
ANY help would be much appreciated.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Have you tried GO Sms Pro it has what you are looking for built in. Gave that a Try
I've been using GOsms pro for a while and i don't see this feature listed anywhere. Where is it?
I've have also been looking for this feature. The sad part is that it was possible on my old blackjack 2. All of the messaging apps that I have used so far including go sms and handcent only allow you to send texts to more than one person in one conversation, but when they reply, it goes back to being separated. Group chat should be implemented in android like it is on the iPhone.
djuniah said:
I've been using GOsms pro for a while and i don't see this feature listed anywhere. Where is it?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
bump for this.
I woke up this morning to a group chat with 3x iPhone 4S users and I had to reply to each of them individually.
I use go SMS also...
I think you have to be the one to start the group chat, just start a new text message and put in all the numbers/names u wanna text, hit send. it'll automatically group them together in 1 text
bump this i have the same deal , a bunch of friends have iphones...
The sidekick 4g has this feature built in. My friend group chats with me and other friends all the time. To tell u the truth it gets annoying having so many texts at the same time lol
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA Premium App
Any one have solutions for this? A lot of my friends use this on iPhone and its annoying not to participate. So I'll get a text and if I respond it only goes back to the originator, while I then get what look like individual texts from others that are clearly responding and going to everyone, and I'm assuming my responses would only just go back to the original writer. Even if I could just see everyone included and then include them manually I'd be ok.
Does anyone have any suggestions? I also have this problem, and its really annoying me. For me group texts are split into each persons single sms thread, when I would like them to be grouped. Do any of the devs think that they could come up with a solution? Honestly, I would be willing to pay to get this solved
I currently have a thunderbolt and it has SOAB rom from BAMF. With this rom I can see the people on the group list. However, when i was on a different rom I would only see the sender. Since now I can see the the group, I can respond in the thread and join the chats and not be left out. the way I did it was to respond to thread in an mms format. If you guys notice, the iphone group comes in as an mms. So my question to you guys, do you see all the people on the list when you receive that message? If so try replying in a mms format. You can do that by putting a dot in the subject line and it'll convert it to mms. The only annoying part about it is yo have to manually be converting a mms message all the time. If you dont, the sms message will go to them in a seperate thread. I tried to find an app that give you the option to chose a message wheither mms or sms without adding a subject line. The only app i found was verzion messages app which auto converts group messages into mms. However, the app doesnt work all the time. I hope it works for you guys cuz I am really happy now since I dont feel left
Mine does that, although to reply to all u have to long press and select reply to all, which I think is better the iPhone does it automatically,
On sense 3.0 messaging, but sense 1 allowed for group Txts to be sent, so I imagine it had a reply all as well
Sent from my Synergized Evo with aggressive Freedom using the XDA app
Is anyone else disatisified with the sms app on our wp7? There's no contact photo of who you're talking too, the conversation does indicate who said what, such as my name isnt on one side and the other persons isn't either, just the contact name in big ol huge font at the top. I wish a developer would create a more feature rich sms app that shows contact photo facebook and twitter status updates and more copy and paste access such as copy and pasting entire strings of conversation that include the date and time. and last but not least
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE improve the mms application, it is so lacking does not play video nor gifs and whenever a funny ha ha mms with music is recieved it plays the music file first then shows you the image, its just awful
The sms client is bad and halfway done (no video support). we know that already... Yes they need to fix this issue... its a pita yo communicate with no decent I'm and half an mms client.
But you could have searched and bumped one of the other ten threads.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App
Gateau Noël said:
Is anyone else disatisified with the sms app on our wp7? There's no contact photo of who you're talking too, the conversation does indicate who said what, such as my name isnt on one side and the other persons isn't either, just the contact name in big ol huge font at the top. I wish a developer would create a more feature rich sms app that shows contact photo facebook and twitter status updates and more copy and paste access such as copy and pasting entire strings of conversation that include the date and time. and last but not least
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE improve the mms application, it is so lacking does not play video nor gifs and whenever a funny ha ha mms with music is recieved it plays the music file first then shows you the image, its just awful
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
To the OP,be careful mate,M$ fan boys are watching you.your thread title might hurt their fragile heart.Then,they will start trolling and ask you do more researches before you buy a phone.
Anyway,i'm not a M$ fanboy,same here,wish they can add in more features to the stock sms app.
I wonder why there are homebrew sms apps for iOS such as bite sms&ireal sms,but why not this happen in WP7???weird....
cheers mate.just wait until fall,then your question might be answered or maybe...lets hope or just sell the device.
sylau90 said:
To the OP,be careful mate,M$ fan boys are watching you.your thread title might hurt their fragile heart.Then,they will start trolling and ask you do more researches before you buy a phone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
sylau90 said:
I wonder why there are homebrew sms apps for iOS such as bite sms&ireal sms,but why not this happen in WP7???weird....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'd imagine because the API's are not yet available for Developers, like many others...
Gateau Noël said:
Is anyone else disatisified with the sms app on our wp7? There's no contact photo of who you're talking too, the conversation does indicate who said what, such as my name isnt on one side and the other persons isn't either, just the contact name in big ol huge font at the top. I wish a developer would create a more feature rich sms app that shows contact photo facebook and twitter status updates and more copy and paste access such as copy and pasting entire strings of conversation that include the date and time. and last but not least
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE improve the mms application, it is so lacking does not play video nor gifs and whenever a funny ha ha mms with music is recieved it plays the music file first then shows you the image, its just awful
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't think there's anything inherently bad about the SMS app. I know who said what because there are only two people in the conversation, and I know what i've said Plus my texts are on the right and the others are on the left. Easy.
What you are listing aren't features, those are design considerations which don't suit your tastes. They suit mine. It's impossible to appease everyone.
BUT, this all boils down to the lack of APIs. If we had these APIs, someone would make an SMS client that you do like. If Microsoft keep going this way, they are going to realise that people won't sit around and wait forever for Microsoft to update. It is much easier to let the community do the work!
Now the MMS, from what I have read that does suck. I wouldn't know because I have an unbranded device and therefore am not allowed to enter my MMS settings...apparently.
i guess an improvement that can be made to the sms client would be to differentiate the sender and receiver by colours, as well as the left/right orientation.
Let me say this, I don't want to hurt or upset anyone's feelings on here, I'm pro Microsoft love all things from Redmond, I am a wp7 cheerleader!
I feel bad that I didn't look to see if any other threads had been started regarding the sams subject. My apologies.
I thank everyone for their opinions and input, it gives me a better understanding of why things are the way they are if that makes any sense.
With all the additional features coming to the mango update, I only hope that SMS client gets in on the juicy goodness
Sent from my HD7 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
The call history, dosent show call duration, which is my biggest disappointment after ****ty battery..
I like the simplicity of the SMS app, true it would be nice to add video, but its elegant.
just like he said
To the OP: ah, I see you've never used windows mobile. You don't know what a horrid anything is.
ROARRRR I want my phone to fly a plane and do somersaults!!!!
The Windows Mobile SMS client was threaded and similar to the Blackberry SMS client, which is not a bad thing. It also supports full SMS Backup and Restore via Microsoft MyPhone (including MMS, IIRC). It was decent on a well-spec'd QWERTY device or a decently modded capacitive touchscreen device with the right OEM modifications. It is more than usable on the HD2, but its hardware support does stifle the Snapdragon SoC and Camera (Which is capable of HD Recording, IIRC).
The only thing I feel bad about with so many other Windows Mobile device users is that they had such crappy devices (WM minimum specs were so low, that you ended up with OEMs putting up ridiculously bad devices devoid of RAM/Storage and processing post). That never helped it...
@ OP if you don't know who's saying what in an SMS conversation then I dunno what to say. The chat bubbles are descriptive enough to let you know where stuff is coming from quite obviously, and that bubble type is used in almost every type of smartphone.
MS can make any improvement they want. I am happy with what i am having right now... Since i don't text much and the only thing i need is something that i could send and receive messege. I bought the whole new phone not for texting only.
Correct, but a dumb phone is a whole phone and they're cheaper to buy and service than a smartphone...
The issue for some users is that there aren't many good IM apps (if any) on the platform at the moment so you're really relient on SMS and email for textual communications (SMS is superior to email due to the fact that it's pushed irregardless of what type of phone the person has - feature phone IM clients often use encoded MMS). So, it makes issues with that particular application a bit more apparent.
Not that I think they are issues. I think it's kind of hard to not know who's saying what in the SMS client because the chat bubbles are clearly pointing in the correct directions. However, the lack of Voice/Video MMS does leave a functional black hole that even SMS clients on the platform do not fill.
The SMS client has issues, but those issues have nothing to do with the chat bubbles.
P.S. Tons of people who buy smartphones actually use the data connection more than they use it as a phone.
Does anyone know if the quick responses feature works with google voice text. I don't have SMS plan. So it would be super useful to have that feature. I have google voice installed. But I don't see any setting for that.
If it's like other functions (at least on gingerbread), like voice actions, it will ask you what you want to use to send the text when you use the feature, and you can choose GV as default there.
I don't have a GN to confirm this, so this is only an educated guess.
I posted a question about this the other day. It does not look like there is an intent for this.
When I tested this, the reply came from my cell phone number, not my google voice number. There IS an intent for "send text..." in Voice Actions but doesn't look like for this. I hope there's a fix!
Maybe a dev can take up creating one?
Back with my Samsung Galaxy S II, I had loaded an MIUI rom and used their five-points lock screen - one of the short cuts was for the SMS app. Someone had created an APK that I installed, that after installation, when I went to the SMS shortcut, up popped up an intent asking if I wanted the Messages or Google Voice app. I wish I had the know-how to do something like this!
Is there any way for us to get this to work with google voice? I want it bad!
Did anyone get this figured out?
I'm using ICS on a captivate and use GV for everything. I would really like to get this working so I can use the quick responses.
I'd really like to see this fixed/added too. After searching, I really only saw these two other forums tracking it and wasn't sure if there are other places I should be raising my hand. I can confirm that it's the only part of the OS that I've come across that does not let me choose Google Voice instead of the native phone or messenger.
(just found out I can't link as a first time member...)
rough web address: google code android issues #23176
rough web address: google code android issues #23442
Is this something that would likely pop up as an update to ICS? Is this something that would likely require loading an entirely different ROM? Are those questions even appropriately constructed (new to android)?
I made an app a few months back that let you share some text... one of the frequently referenced intents in Android documentation would only send to Messaging (show you the messaging app with the text pre-filled in) and not GV..
Another, less publicized intent let you "Share" with all kinds of applications. This was the only one that would prefill GV and Messaging (and email and tons of other apps). But again, it was an intent that would open the apps pre-filled, not send it.
Another thing that could be done in the app was to just send a text from within the app.. The user never sees the messaging or any other app and the text is sent. This is obviously can only work through native SMS not GV. (For this, an app that uses this feature needs the SMS permission)
--
I haven't done the quick responses yet, but I assume they send the text without taking you to an app, so that's not an intent that's sending a message through the OS, and impossible with GV. Again, I haven't looked at Quick Responses, so I don't know if this is how it behaves.
Please Star the issue on Google Code to get Google's attention!
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=23176
Also - disregard my last comment. The intent to send through GV already exists, they just need to call the right intent in the dialer app / quick response. This fix would literally take them 5 minutes to do. Star it to get higher priority on the issue!
Royal2000H said:
Please Star the issue on Google Code to get Google's attention!
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=23176
Also - disregard my last comment. The intent to send through GV already exists, they just need to call the right intent in the dialer app / quick response. This fix would literally take them 5 minutes to do. Star it to get higher priority on the issue!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Also check out http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=34175 - it looks like this reflects in Jelly Bean as text voice actions not working.
tigerhawkvok said:
Also check out http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=34175 - it looks like this reflects in Jelly Bean as text voice actions not working.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
why did you bump a topic from 9 months ago?
Zepius said:
why did you bump a topic from 9 months ago?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Because the bug still needs attention?