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[Q] Mid-Range? Whatever...

http://androidandme.com/2010/06/new...s-all-other-android-phones-in-gpu-benchmarks/
I found this to be interesting and a bit odd that we have all of this talk about the "Mid-Range" Cpu at 600 Mhz but no talk about the GPU. Does anyone have some information on the GPU and if they are receiving similar scores in this category?
Can we officially stop calling this a "Mid-Range" phone if this turns out to be true?

Remember the phone is only 320x480 res vs the N1, Droids, etc 480x800+. That alone will greatly improve the performance (if same GPU).
IMO a Large res display is required for a high end phone too.. though a good one its still a mid level.

Please post this is the correct section.

mesajoejoe said:
Please post this is the correct section.
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This question is very relivant to the development of this device.
This all goes back to my mantra, lastest dont always mean the greatest. Hell, put it in this perspective...any woman would sacrifice an inch for better performance. I would much rather something do what its supposed to do and do it with blazing colors, than have something look pretty with all the bells and whistles and hiccup in comparison. Ive played with all the android phones from tmobile thus far, and the slide is by far my fav.

My reasoning behind throwing this in the development section was to hopefully find someone who could shed some more light on the GPU in this phone. I am sure that the pixel differences between this device and others are part of it but it seems as if more is going on in the background with this phone. Here are some questions this benchmark test brings up for discussion:
1.Is this GPU Open GL ES 2.0 capable?
2.Has Qualcomm opened up more possibilities with this GPU drivers compared to other phones?
3.It seems that this is an Adreno GPU, but which one? The Nexus has an Adreno also.
4.How much of this phone is hardware accelerated compared to other phones? I remember taking up the RAM from my G1's GPU to help run the main components of the phone, maybe this phone has a bit more help built in to it.

Let's all run to tmo and drop one so we can see what's inside! I for one just compaired it to the mt1.2 and it blows it away! The wife loaded up her baseball flash site and flipped at how fast it rendered the stuff. The screen res ain't got nothing to do with that. Maybe they fibbed on the cpu info so we wouldn't know. Or they got themselves one smart dev for software building.

Has anyone tried linpack tests yet?

mejorguille said:
Has anyone tried linpack tests yet?
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Linpack is 2.6+ for the one i tested at the store.I think the CPU is honestly down-clocked from what it really is, for all we know it could go up to 800Mhz or 1GHz. When linpack ran there were some b/g apps open.

Re: Mid-Range? Whatever...
If you look at the power.xml in github for Wes Garners's developments on this phone you will see the option for 998mhz as the high end for this cpu. I'd imagine overclocking it will bring at least 1.3 to the table. No info on the GPU yet.
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Re: Mid-Range? Whatever...
mejorguille said:
Has anyone tried linpack tests yet?
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Yes. Mflops came out around 2.2. It needs to be tweaked severely but id assume this is due to the bloated processes and underclocking of the CPU.
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i dont understand why everyone is hating on this phone, my g1 is perfect. does what i need from android. and i like it over all. i never have problems with my processor. so this phone is a huge plus to me. although id love to make the sence ui on it a lil differnt, like the normal sence

mtjnkee said:
Yes. Mflops came out around 2.2. It needs to be tweaked severely but id assume this is due to the bloated processes and underclocking of the CPU.
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Really? That's very low in my opinion when a droid, also running a 600 Mhz get much higher, and my rooted g1 with cyan kernel 2.6.34 get 2.3-2.4 on linpack.
Wikipedia says that the mytouch slide has a MSM7227 processor compared with Snapdragons which are QSD8xxx series. Some google searches found that the 7227 is for "cheap", sub $150 smartphones. Here are the specs for the processor:
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The platform -- known as the MSM7227 -- is apparently designed with higher-power,
lower-cost handsets in mind, offering HSDPA / HSUPA radios, a 600MHz CPU, 320MHz
application DSP, 400MHz modem processor, hardware-accelerated 3D graphics, Bluetooth 2.1,
and GPS support integrated in a 12mm x 12mm chipset. The MSM7227 can also supposedly handle
8 megapixel camera and 30 FPS WVGA encoding / decoding with ease, and is capable of
supporting Android.
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mejorguille said:
Really? That's very low in my opinion when a droid, also running a 600 Mhz get much higher, and my rooted g1 with cyan kernel 2.6.34 get 2.3-2.4 on linpack.
Wikipedia says that the mytouch slide has a MSM7227 processor compared with Snapdragons which are QSD8xxx series. Some google searches found that the 7227 is for "cheap", sub $150 smartphones. Here are the specs for the processor:
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The platform -- known as the MSM7227 -- is apparently designed with higher-power,
lower-cost handsets in mind, offering HSDPA / HSUPA radios, a 600MHz CPU, 320MHz
application DSP, 400MHz modem processor, hardware-accelerated 3D graphics, Bluetooth 2.1,
and GPS support integrated in a 12mm x 12mm chipset. The MSM7227 can also supposedly handle
8 megapixel camera and 30 FPS WVGA encoding / decoding with ease, and is capable of
supporting Android.
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Well thats because the droid has a better processor (not speed but type) and the G1 is rooted and all the bloatware cut plus probably jit enabled plus swap/comcache. Besides that score seems rather low. I have a G1 and the MTS is way faster. I dont need a benchmark test to tell me that. Its definately as fast as my friends droid may be faster.

I know its been said before but it has the same gpu as the n1 for me that makes it all the proccessor i need
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5719829

neva dinova said:
I know its been said before but it has the same gpu as the n1 for me that makes it all the proccessor i need
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5719829
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awesome

Z51 said:
awesome
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either way, its better than the g1 and mt3g and even the 32a mt3g's.. when it gets rooted, this device will fly even moreso than it already does. bloatware be damned, we'll have it working wonders and fixing aids!*
aids may not actually be fixed by rooted slide

I know right. This morning I was looking at the running apps and saw the following that ran even if you cleanly booted it up:
* Visual Voicemail (don't get many VMs, so it's useless to me)
* Faves (useless)
* Swype (useless to me)
* IM (why is this even running?)
* AppPack (useless)
* My Account (useless)
Each of these apps take 20 MB or more.

marvinp said:
I know right. This morning I was looking at the running apps and saw the following that ran even if you cleanly booted it up:
* Visual Voicemail (don't get many VMs, so it's useless to me)
* Faves (useless)
* Swype (useless to me)
* IM (why is this even running?)
* AppPack (useless)
* My Account (useless)
Each of these apps take 20 MB or more.
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with a clean rom, we're gonna have so much extra space we'll have no need for a2sd

[Kernel] [Sprint] [1.4/1.2 OC] Bauxite Kernel - 2/12/11 -V3.3

Extremely Alpha Code
Hey everyone...
I've developed what I think is the first 1.2ghz overclock for the Galaxy tab Sprint ONLY.
WARNING: THIS KERNEL MAY NOT WORK ON YOUR DEVICE, MIGHT DESTROY YOUR DEVICE, MIGHT PUNCH YOUR CHILDREN, I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY DAMAGE CAUSED BY THIS KERNEL, USE AT YOUR OWN RISK
Whew... now that the warning is out of the way I present a 1.4/1.2 overclock based off of the details here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=943669
Quadrant Score: 1129
Linpack Score: 19.29
You will want to unpack the zImage and push it over with Heimdall, while in download mode (hold down power + vol-down until you get the download mode screen).
FOR OTHER DEVELOPERS
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As I stated before, if you follow the link above and modify the exact same lines you can add this to you kernels as well.. however the file names are different, the files you want to modify are..
arch/arm/plat-samsung/max8998_consumer.c
arch/arm/plat-samsung/s5pc11x-dvfs.c
arch/arm/mach-s5pv210/clock.c
The last one took me forever to grep and find...
This is just the first of many versions, I will look into other CPU frequencies and voltages, lets see how far we can push this baby.
Donate!

V3.3 --- EXT4 ONLY Kernel... only use this if you are on ext4
V3.1 --- Fixed Ext4(?) NOPE
V3.0 --- Based on EA24 Source - untested with older software. Adds EXT4 (broken)
V2.0 --- 1.4/1.2 GHZ OC, reverted previous changes, NO EXT4 (yet..) ONLY FOR SPRINT, USB FIXED - based on koxudaxi's patch
You'll want to use the voltage control app here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=943669
V1.2 --- 1.2 ghz OC, 1.35 Overvolt (for stability), ext2/3/4/rfs
V1.1 --- Added 1ghz back in as a choice, reset your setcpu to select it.
V1.0 --- Added 1.2ghz overclock (replaced 1.0ghz default, will fix later)

would you be willing to do one for us gsm users if we provide kernals for you

Testing now but awesome work!! Works like a charm! I would take it it would run stable about the same speeds as the other Hummingbird processors at normal voltage ( 1200 ) and lower voltages at 1440 just fine but who knows
This is with this Kernel and OCLF.
(LinPack 17.5)
(Quad Score 2369)
(SmartBench 1469 3344)

Damn you, sprint users. . At least there is hope for pushing the Tab now, cheers

How about just setting #define USE_1DOT2GHZ 1 in s5pc11x-dvfs.c and in linux/arch/arm/mach-s5pv210/cpu-freq.c?
That should switch everything to 1.2GHz tables that Samsung nicely prepared for us?
it seems to work for me just fine.

how to update?

Are you sure it works without altering clock.c? Until I changed that file my device was reporting 1.2ghz but it was still super slow.
EDIT: nvm, you're right. Changing that would change clock.c as well. I don't plan on using the default tables, but it's a good place to start if you want to stick to default values. I know this thing can do more than 1.2ghz.
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b0ricuaguerrero said:
would you be willing to do one for us gsm users if we provide kernals for you
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Anyone could do it easily, but I"ll see what I can do. I've gotten ahold of roto's initrd, I just need to grab the source from Samsung. I don't get home until very late in the evening so I can't promise that someone won't beat me to it!

Please, someone beat him to it.

I've never flashed a kernel before, but it worked without a hitch. Thanks!

This sounds awesome, I'm curious if it makes a big difference in performance and how it affects battery life, those of you that use it please post your experiences! Thanks! I know using custom kernels on my N1 makes a huge difference though so I'm hoping this does too...

Looking forward to seeing how much difference this makes, my n900 i clock to 1.2ghz from the default 600 clock (downclocked cortex A7 @ 600mhz default). so pretty sure the tab should do 1.4 or so faultlessly?
Looking forward to GSM revisions, hopefully Roto may even include this in his roms later (well i'm wishing ^^).
Nice to see someone brave enough to start the ball rolling

futuregerald said:
This sounds awesome, I'm curious if it makes a big difference in performance and how it affects battery life, those of you that use it please post your experiences! Thanks! I know using custom kernels on my N1 makes a huge difference though so I'm hoping this does too...
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Performance increase is definitely noticeable, a lot less lag all around.
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had my first lockup with it trying to play 1080p file in vplayer since vplayer don't use gpu to render. But basic video player plays fine just guessing voltage is a little high but who knows still awesome: )
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Any word on if this will work for vzw?
I just bought a Galaxy tab and I've never built an Android Kernel before but I spent yesterday tearing through the how-to from the CM guys. I'm familiar with C pretty well, so I was glad to see that I'd be building C and not some Java I'd be totally illiterate to. I'm hoping stepping up to these crazy ARM cores from my usual embedded work with AVR's and 32mhz ARMs shouldn't have too terrible a learning curve.
Anyone who's done kernel building for android before: Is it pretty much a straight forward build process? For some of the embedded work I've done with RTOS systems I've spent days digging through memory maps, linker files and assembly code to trouble shoot issues... Just curious if those will be useful skills for android?

TheCodeBenders said:
Any word on if this will work for vzw?
I just bought a Galaxy tab and I've never built an Android Kernel before but I spent yesterday tearing through the how-to from the CM guys. I'm familiar with C pretty well, so I was glad to see that I'd be building C and not some Java I'd be totally illiterate to. I'm hoping stepping up to these crazy ARM cores from my usual embedded work with AVR's and 32mhz ARMs shouldn't have too terrible a learning curve.
Anyone who's done kernel building for android before: Is it pretty much a straight forward build process? For some of the embedded work I've done with RTOS systems I've spent days digging through memory maps, linker files and assembly code to trouble shoot issues... Just curious if those will be useful skills for android?
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I actually used the Verizon kernel configuration, since there is no sprint one. I think it should work on Verizon.. make a kernel backup first!
The only difference could be in the initrd but I have no way of knowing until someone tries it.

Bauxite said:
I actually used the Verizon kernel configuration, since there is no sprint one. I think it should work on Verizon.. make a kernel backup first!
The only difference could be in the initrd but I have no way of knowing until someone tries it.
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You used the .config file? I spent a few hours trying to get a config file setup right.. then u posted which thank you! Lol
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The configuration files are stored in arch/arm/configs
There is one for every type of tab
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Bauxite said:
The configuration files are stored in arch/arm/configs
There is one for every type of tab
Sent from my galaxy tab
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Thanks
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Arc S firmware on Arc???

Somebody who probe arc S firmware on arc, is this posible? Thanks

jlmcr87 said:
Somebody who probe arc S firmware on arc, is this posible? Thanks
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why would you want this? they are practically the same.

To convert the arc into an Arc S at 1.4Ghz

And from where do you know that your cpu can run stable at 1,4 ghz?

bmwbasti said:
And from where do you know that your cpu can run stable at 1,4 ghz?
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Why don´t you inform before speaking? The arc can handle even 1.8Ghz, try doomkernel

Ehm, only because you can push the cpu to 1,8Ghz doesn't mean that it cah handle it stable.
So i just can give the question back: Why don't you get information about how processors work and what overclocking does do and how it works.
I repeat: Only because you can push the processor to a specific frequency doesn't mean that it can handle that frequency stable....

bmwbasti said:
Ehm, only because you can push the cpu to 1,8Ghz doesn't mean that it cah handle it stable.
So i just can give the question back: Why don't you get information about how processors work and what overclocking does do and how it works.
I repeat: Only because you can push the processor to a specific frequency doesn't mean that it can handle that frequency stable....
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Repeat:Why don´t you inform before speaking? Doomkernel has been tested and it´s stable at 1.8 Ghz, so at 1.4..........

Ah, the kernel was tested? How can a kernel been tested if the cpu gets frequency xy?
The one has nothing to do with the other.
I'll just give up...
Seems it makes no sense. Just go and get the Arc S fw onto your Arc.

I would actually be interested what processor does the Arc S have - is it the same processor bumped to 1.4 GHz, or is it different chipset?

Yes exactly same processor
Ars S: Processor 1.4 GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon MSM8255
GPU Adreno 205
Arc: Processor 1 GHz Qualcomm MSM8255
GPU Adreno 205
I wonder why they just don't increase CPU frequency of already exisiting Arc via the latest update ?
Ha ... marketting ...

piflechien said:
Yes exactly same processor
Ars S: Processor 1.4 GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon MSM8255
GPU Adreno 205
Arc: Processor 1 GHz Qualcomm MSM8255
GPU Adreno 205
I wonder why they just don't increase CPU frequency of already exisiting Arc via the latest update ?
Ha ... marketting ...
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Arc S has a Qualcomm MSM8255T which is different than Qualcomm MSM8255...
Theres a slight difference

lil_devil said:
Arc S has a Qualcomm MSM8255T which is different than Qualcomm MSM8255...
Theres a slight difference
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Yes there is a T of difference
Anyway the actual dump is from a developer phone so maybe have a lot of bugs or maybe is no compatible

if it dont brick arc, I will try

So... Has anyone tried?
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I would assume the arc s will recieve the ics update. I know there are many roumours regarding the update for the arc. If the arc s firmware goes into.our arcs it would increase the chances of us also getting the update either by official means or custom roms......maby im talking bollocks and everyone knows something i dont ive been busy with other things to follow the phone scene of late
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Tried replacing the build.prop of the Arc S system dump and then performing a update using SEUS or PC Companion, it gives a message that the software is not available yet. Either have to wait for that or for somebody to get the ftf/img. I changed the build number of the build.prop to a lower value to make it check for an update. It does say now in "About Phone" that I have a LT18i

if i flash this FW did i get 1,4 GHz on my Arc too ??

zwilly said:
Tried replacing the build.prop of the Arc S system dump and then performing a update using SEUS or PC Companion, it gives a message that the software is not available yet. Either have to wait for that or for somebody to get the ftf/img. I changed the build number of the build.prop to a lower value to make it check for an update. It does say now in "About Phone" that I have a LT18i
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Can this be made into a tft file
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*Sigh* None of you know that the Qualcomm MSM8655T isn't just an extra letter at the end of the code name, it actually brings changes:
Higher clock speed (this is the frequency the processor is fused at when it is manufactured, something that 'overclocking' does not do the same job at)
Lower power consumption (if you compare the Arc and Arc S spec sheets, you'll see the difference in estimated battery life)
Higher data transfer speeds (an improvement brought by the chipset)
There are things that a firmware update will not and can not 'fix'.

The furthest I got so far is pushing the /system of the LT18i to my LT15i. Don't notice any difference compared with the latest LT15i firmware but that is prolly because of mentioned hardware differences and the differences shown in the previews are like somebody suggested maybe left out in the /system dump of the LT18i.
I must say that everything feels alot quicker/smoother since the upgrade of 2.3.3 to 2.3.4

[KERNEL][WIP][MARVEL][UPTO 864MHZ]TurboKernelV3[12/01/12]

Kernel is not stable, and development is on hold
Ok i have created a new kernel for sense based roms, including my rom TurboFire.
Features
Allows overclocking upto 864MHz
Default is 600/245 screen on 245/245 screen off
Supports ext2/3/4
Supports swap
As always make a backup first before flashing this.
This kernel includes the andrev_oc overclocking daemon. It is a native written program than changes the frequency based on phone state. This is better than the smartass govenor as you have more control, and its more stable, quicker and more effective than using setcpu to control frequencies based on phone state.
It can be controlled by OC/UV Beater which is included in the .zip. You must uninstall all cpu control apps first or it will automatically deactivate.
Remember when overclocking, use TEMP activate for a few minutes before using perm activate to make sure it is stable.
This does not work with CM7 or ICS based roms, so dont try it, I will work on a CM7 version tomorrow.
Download links:
V1:http://djpc.org.uk/roms/TurboKernelV1-by-djpc.zip
V2:http://djpc.org.uk/roms/TurboKernelV2-by-djpc.zip
V3:http://djpc.org.uk/roms/TurboKernelV3-by-djpc.zip
OC daemon and control:http://djpc.org.uk/roms/OC-Turbo-deamon.zip
Changelog:
V2
Wifi maybe fixed (need testers)
Changed acpu tables - new max overclock 864MHz
V3
Kernel and daemon are now seperate for testing purposes
Hopefully fixed (fingers crossed)
OK im sorry guys, i jumped the gun a little on this phone, unfortunatly the way the processor's clock generator works we can only have multiples of a certain frequency, which leaves us capped at 864MHz, this is a physical barrier associated with the way the hardware was made and no dev will be able to change this.
I hope to have voltage tweaking working at some point so people can run there devices at higher frequencies.

The beta 2 roms link is down
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eoghan2t7 said:
The beta 2 roms link is down
Sent from my HTC Wildfire S using xda premium
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Fixed the link

I'm guessing it's not supported on the MarvelC?

Prenominal said:
I'm guessing it's not supported on the MarvelC?
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There is currently no marvelc support, but i plan on building a marvelc kernel tomorrow

Great! Can't wait, I wish you luck. I'm really hoping more development steps on the scene for MarvelC.

I hope my phone dosent blow up.

I have trouble overclocking to 787 mhz, I don't think about 1.5 Ghz, but I am willing to try.
Wildfire S powered by CM 7.2

It will if you pick 1.5. Be CAREFUL.
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wifi not working.

I cant overclock my WFS because in this program I cant change frequency
Rom: HENSE ROM V3 with stock kernel after that I flash your kernel/

How the hell would phone with 600MHz proc work on 1.5GHz ?

Nightshadow931 said:
How the hell would phone with 600MHz proc work on 1.5GHz ?
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Never can't be true, 806 is the max. Even I cant reach 806 Mhz.
He just wants to be popular .
But the extra features are great if the kernel would work well .

OC doesn't work. Max is 600 mhz

At 1.5GHz it would be as hot as holding the sun in your hand lol
Would simply burn your CPU out!!!
Be careful guys.

just add another core to ws

Sry, but are you crazy announcing 1.5 ghz, even the desire s with a stock speed of 1 ghz is only up to 1.8 ghz stable, that would mean the wfs could only be overclocked to 1ghz without getting unstable, but it would also get hot with this speed.
Swyped from my desire s running damn sweet ice cream

I set 1.5GHz as the max as that number is an arbitrary number, im not expecting people to achieve this (if the kernel work properly anyway) and i doubt the phone would be stable enough to even get hot at that speed; i set it there so people can try as high as they dare rather than as high as the kernel maker wants them to go. As for those saying that anything above 800mhz is impossible, im trying to get voltage control working so that you can increase the voltage slightly (this i will cap to sensible values or else you can fry stuff) so you can hit higher numbers. My desire z has run at 1.9GHz before, from stock of 800MHz, and im not a lucky one. I know its a totaly different phone but these MSM phones can overclock really well normally.
I am going to look into the wifi today and get that fixed as well as fixing the frequency table, as well as having higher frequency's i will have more in the 600-800 mhz region for those who have phones that dont like to be overclocked. I also hope to build a CM7 version and one for the marvelc as they have been left in the cold atm for OC kernels.
PS: This dev work is difficult for me as i dont personally own a WFS for testing, if people want to get this kernel and coming roms working fast with no bugs i need people to read the dev team thread and join the irc, we already have a few guys in there and when things have gotten going it is very productive, benjamin as nearly gotten the touchscreen working for ICS now

Good work, can you check your pm's?
I ask again here, can you edit jikantaru's kernel so max is 600 Mhz and not 806 Mhz?
Thanks

New version uploaded, read first post for details, if you encounter issues come and chat with us at #wfsdevteam on freenode IRC

Question Snapdragon 870 - GPU 905mhz

Hello !
I've heard that it's possible to overclock our GPU to 905mhz by removing frequency table from dtb - when all frequencies are gone the chip defaults to 905mhz on GPU.
Now how do you do that ? I have no idea... Been asking around for couple of days and anyone that knows won't tell '-'
Most I've gotten is that dtb is inside boot ; some new 870's are locked and can't go even 1mhz above... That's all
Now make out of that what you want , it's rather conflicting info when there are reports that it works just fine one hentai os , even overclocks to 940mhz - Keep all frequencies just add a new one on top (940 MHz and edit voltage table for it to turbo 1 voltage). That's the best solution for anyone doing overclocking... You get to keep all other frequencies as well but it does not work on other ROMs due to hentai os using a different device tree to everyone else...
Hence why I'm looking into how to delete whole table to at least unlock 905mhz. I'll be using peltier cooler so heat is no issue I just want performance - its heartbreaking when 700 series chips can score much much higher than 870 simply because they can be overclocked unlike ours....

I'm all for overclocking and optimizing our chipsets, but do you have a problem with your phone?
Because for me, this chipset is crazy fast, and every game and app I throw at it, plays smoothly. I never have stutters in any game or app.

dreamytom said:
I'm all for overclocking and optimizing our chipsets, but do you have a problem with your phone?
Because for me, this chipset is crazy fast, and every game and app I throw at it, plays smoothly. I never have stutters in any game or app.
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I do feel the lack of performance though... Frame instability and not quite 60fps in more heavy games.
Even snap 888 struggles in certain games and considering that snap 865 already is able to meet and exceed perfomance of 888 doing the same on 870 will , well offer even better experience once heat is handled...
I'm currently looking for earliest rom for this device to see if it would be possible to do it there w kona but no luck so far...

I was also recently view a photo of the Poco F3 8/256GB and it was running at 1072MHz, the only information I had from whoever passed this photo was that it was from a Russian forum/chat and that it was only possible in the first batches of the 870!
I'll keep following it, if I find something, I'll let you know!

vinyimp said:
I was also recently view a photo of the Poco F3 8/256GB and it was running at 1072MHz, the only information I had from whoever passed this photo was that it was from a Russian forum/chat and that it was only possible in the first batches of the 870!
I'll keep following it, if I find something, I'll let you know!
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That's crazy! At 1072mhz he must have surpassed Rog5's performance. All I am seeing is that it overclocks to 683mhz and that is it otherwise it goes into bootloop. What good is 13mhz anyways? Rather keep it stock then.

Bosstek said:
That's crazy! At 1072mhz he must have surpassed Rog5's performance. All I am seeing is that it overclocks to 683mhz and that is it otherwise it goes into bootloop. What good is 13mhz anyways? Rather keep it stock then.
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There are many photos on telegram of people overclocking their 870 recently... Insane results , 99℅ stability and 25℅ higher scores in 3d mark .
Optimus drunk kernel + konabess overclock .
If anyone feels like trying post results here , if it worked or not... I heard somewhere along the way that it only works on hentai os even if your phone is an early batch model and since optimus kernel is based on utsav's kernel ( hentai os kernel ) , there's a good chance that installing it will allow overclock on aosp roms.
I don't wanna try personally for many reasons - optimus d kernel devloper sucks in my opinion, I tried his earlier kernel when it was based on quantic kernel and let's just say he butchered it and made something 10x worse... I think if utsav's kernel can allow for overclock you're better off using that instead lol
Might try later on idk , if anyone else does please keep us updated!
1. Install aosp rom
2. Install Optimus drunk / Utsav kernel ( search his name on google/xda and you'll find his kernel )
3. Try overclocking in konabess past 683mhz ( make backup first !!! Then transfer to PC )
4. If it bootloops flash backup via twrp / fastboot

Rstment ^m^ said:
There are many photos on telegram of people overclocking their 870 recently... Insane results , 99℅ stability and 25℅ higher scores in 3d mark .
Optimus drunk kernel + konabess overclock .
If anyone feels like trying post results here , if it worked or not... I heard somewhere along the way that it only works on hentai os even if your phone is an early batch model and since optimus kernel is based on utsav's kernel ( hentai os kernel ) , there's a good chance that installing it will allow overclock on aosp roms.
I don't wanna try personally for many reasons - optimus d kernel devloper sucks in my opinion, I tried his earlier kernel when it was based on quantic kernel and let's just say he butchered it and made something 10x worse... I think if utsav's kernel can allow for overclock you're better off using that instead lol
Might try later on idk , if anyone else does please keep us updated!
1. Install aosp rom
2. Install Optimus drunk / Utsav kernel ( search his name on google/xda and you'll find his kernel )
3. Try overclocking in konabess past 683mhz ( make backup first !!! Then transfer to PC )
4. If it bootloops flash backup via twrp / fastboot
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Rstment ^m^ said:
There are many photos on telegram of people overclocking their 870 recently... Insane results , 99℅ stability and 25℅ higher scores in 3d mark .
Optimus drunk kernel + konabess overclock .
If anyone feels like trying post results here , if it worked or not... I heard somewhere along the way that it only works on hentai os even if your phone is an early batch model and since optimus kernel is based on utsav's kernel ( hentai os kernel ) , there's a good chance that installing it will allow overclock on aosp roms.
I don't wanna try personally for many reasons - optimus d kernel devloper sucks in my opinion, I tried his earlier kernel when it was based on quantic kernel and let's just say he butchered it and made something 10x worse... I think if utsav's kernel can allow for overclock you're better off using that instead lol
Might try later on idk , if anyone else does please keep us updated!
1. Install aosp rom
2. Install Optimus drunk / Utsav kernel ( search his name on google/xda and you'll find his kernel )
3. Try overclocking in konabess past 683mhz ( make backup first !!! Then transfer to PC )
4. If it bootloops flash backup via twrp / fastboot
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Is there a way a to know if we have one of the early batches? I have poco f3 and havent even updated it to latest miui. I am still on 12.0.3 lol and man as far as perfirmance is concerned I am really not seeing huge performance gains over miui to be honest. Like there is this one youtuber who almost checks all roms and there are only some to trump miui in bechmarks and in Pubg gameplay the results look to be the same. It lags where Miui lags and performs great where Miui performs great. On top of that if we add bugs and the sheer level of dullness of pure stock android I dont see a reason to flash a custom rom( the super wallpapers and AOD on miui is great). I was really excited about overclocking though because it had insane performance gains one guy has posted a article on xda overclocking 865 to almost 900mhz and comes neck and neck with sd888 in gpu. I asked him about overclocking 870 and he said it seems to be not possible but we can try to disable thermal throttling and it will still stay below sd888 temperatures and will have the same performance. I do doubt it though because the real performance comes with overclocking and with only 683mhz clock I dont see it beating sd888 because if the device runs cool it can almost use 100% and even with full performance it wont beat 888 but thats what he said.

Bosstek said:
Is there a way a to know if we have one of the early batches? I have poco f3 and havent even updated it to latest miui. I am still on 12.0.3 lol and man as far as perfirmance is concerned I am really not seeing huge performance gains over miui to be honest. Like there is this one youtuber who almost checks all roms and there are only some to trump miui in bechmarks and in Pubg gameplay the results look to be the same. It lags where Miui lags and performs great where Miui performs great. On top of that if we add bugs and the sheer level of dullness of pure stock android I dont see a reason to flash a custom rom( the super wallpapers and AOD on miui is great). I was really excited about overclocking though because it had insane performance gains one guy has posted a article on xda overclocking 865 to almost 900mhz and comes neck and neck with sd888 in gpu. I asked him about overclocking 870 and he said it seems to be not possible but we can try to disable thermal throttling and it will still stay below sd888 temperatures and will have the same performance. I do doubt it though because the real performance comes with overclocking and with only 683mhz clock I dont see it beating sd888 because if the device runs cool it can almost use 100% and even with full performance it wont beat 888 but thats what he said.
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You have to try for yourself and see , if it bootloops it's not an early model....
The results difference is huge , wdym you don't see it beating 888. Snapdragon 865 already has practically the same performance , only loosing in cpu department. If you overclock gpu in 870 you are already leagues ahead off 888 - same cpu performance + much better gpu performance. All at the lower heat than 888.
Sadly no devloper is paying any attention to this. I digged up that if you remove any and all mentions in kernel about frequency table the chip will lock itself at it's highest supported gpu freq ( 940mhz + ) - this could possibily work even on locked devices? I have no idea , no kernel devloper that I asked even responded lol
You are on your own to try and get it to work , they obv won't

Rstment ^m^ said:
You have to try for yourself and see , if it bootloops it's not an early model....
The results difference is huge , wdym you don't see it beating 888. Snapdragon 865 already has practically the same performance , only loosing in cpu department. If you overclock gpu in 870 you are already leagues ahead off 888 - same cpu performance + much better gpu performance. All at the lower heat than 888.
Sadly no devloper is paying any attention to this. I digged up that if you remove any and all mentions in kernel about frequency table the chip will lock itself at it's highest supported gpu freq ( 940mhz + ) - this could possibily work even on locked devices? I have no idea , no kernel devloper that I asked even responded lol
You are on your own to try and get it to work , they obv won't
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I did overclock my SD865 gpu to 1020mhz

YuanYuzu said:
I did overclock my SD865 gpu to 1020mhz
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Well of course you did but SD870 is a different story.

Hello Guys,
First this first Snapdragon 870 is impossible to Overclock on Chip Kona v2.1 guys it is hardware lock on software just like Snapdragon 855+/860 is max 692MHz.
Yes we can now if you have early model with Kona v2.0 search for
Check dumpstate board on miui bug report
If kona-v2.1 then max 683Mhz.
if you have smaller you number table is unlocked on your Poco F3.
I have all info on Konabess Support group
I have telegram Adreno GPUs &Konabess Support group if you want know more this things.
Second don't do anything stupid like 1020MHz or anything like that Voltage Regular is design for 905MHz and can sustain up to 950MHz at MAX.
Most devices 940MHz gives better performance than 950MHz because of performance.
Third thing because of Voltage Regular from Qualcomm overclocking above 950MHz doesn't bring any new performance only lowers it.
You have to check for GPU stability by locking in Kernel manager min and max frequency and frequency you want test.
At that level even the best SOC get UI lag and unstable performance.
In real benchmark scores are lower on 1020MHz vs 925MHz because of Voltage Regular.
In Games like Breath of the Wild on EGG NS performance wins with 888 as well as 8G1 and fps stays the same 925MHz vs 1020MHz.
If you do anything above 950MHz you risk of bricking your device in couple of weeks.
You can't just add 905MHz at ridiculous high Voltage like Turbo_L1 which is 416mv will get massive throttling.
You have to design new frequency table and new frequency at good stable voltage for every device.
Adreno 650 at 925MHz or 940MHz gives almost 5700 points in 3Dmark Wild life.
In Gigaflops FP32 it beast Snapdragon 888 by 10% more raw power.
Adreno 660 on 840 MHz has 1702 Gigaflops
Adreno 650 on 905 MHz has 1853 Gigaflops
Adreno 650 on 925MHz has 1894 Gigaflops
Adreno 650 on 940 MHz has 1925 Gigaflops
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Rstment ^m^ said:
Hello !
I've heard that it's possible to overclock our GPU to 905mhz by removing frequency table from dtb - when all frequencies are gone the chip defaults to 905mhz on GPU.
Now how do you do that ? I have no idea... Been asking around for couple of days and anyone that knows won't tell '-'
Most I've gotten is that dtb is inside boot ; some new 870's are locked and can't go even 1mhz above... That's all
Now make out of that what you want , it's rather conflicting info when there are reports that it works just fine one hentai os , even overclocks to 940mhz - Keep all frequencies just add a new one on top (940 MHz and edit voltage table for it to turbo 1 voltage). That's the best solution for anyone doing overclocking... You get to keep all other frequencies as well but it does not work on other ROMs due to hentai os using a different device tree to everyone else...
Hence why I'm looking into how to delete whole table to at least unlock 905mhz. I'll be using peltier cooler so heat is no issue I just want performance - its heartbreaking when 700 series chips can score much much higher than 870 simply because they can be overclocked unlike ours....
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Pretty sure you can overclock the GPU with custom kernel alone, it involves you to take out some security checks which could be potentially "blowing up" your device if you mess something up.
However the thing about the 905mhz without table is something I've also heard for the SD 865 plus variant. I'll try to make some kernels without the table and see how the chipsets act on it.

Danishblunt said:
Pretty sure you can overclock the GPU with custom kernel alone, it involves you to take out some security checks which could be potentially "blowing up" your device if you mess something up.
However the thing about the 905mhz without table is something I've also heard for the SD 865 plus variant. I'll try to make some kernels without the table and see how the chipsets act on it.
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Send some updates when you do!*

YuanYuzu said:
I did overclock my SD865 gpu to 1020mhz
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Bro can u help me overclock my 870?

Bosstek said:
Is there a way a to know if we have one of the early batches? I have poco f3 and havent even updated it to latest miui. I am still on 12.0.3 lol and man as far as perfirmance is concerned I am really not seeing huge performance gains over miui to be honest. Like there is this one youtuber who almost checks all roms and there are only some to trump miui in bechmarks and in Pubg gameplay the results look to be the same. It lags where Miui lags and performs great where Miui performs great. On top of that if we add bugs and the sheer level of dullness of pure stock android I dont see a reason to flash a custom rom( the super wallpapers and AOD on miui is great). I was really excited about overclocking though because it had insane performance gains one guy has posted a article on xda overclocking 865 to almost 900mhz and comes neck and neck with sd888 in gpu. I asked him about overclocking 870 and he said it seems to be not possible but we can try to disable thermal throttling and it will still stay below sd888 temperatures and will have the same performance. I do doubt it though because the real performance comes with overclocking and with only 683mhz clock I dont see it beating sd888 because if the device runs cool it can almost use 100% and even with full performance it wont beat 888 but thats what he said.
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check your dumpstate on miui bug report and seach for a word 2.1 , if you see chip version 2.1 its a new version but i think the early batches is the one that doest have any design on the back cover just a flat color