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Hey guys. i've had it with Froyo. i have a list of complaints, but that kind of post has been done too many times.
basically i'm wondering how to "downgrade" back to a 2.1 rom. i started with OMJ's 2.1 "eclair" rom and now i'm running his 2.2 froyoized rom. i'd like to revert back to the latter. can someone clue me in on how best to accomplish this?
thanks!
I should expect it to be as simple as clearing data/cache/davlik and flashing the rom you want to use.
Don't think you can but I'm not 100% sure Idk what problems ur having but 2.2. Has been a beast for me
from the apple store loling
TeknoJnky said:
I should expect it to be as simple as clearing data/cache/davlik and flashing the rom you want to use.
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That's what I assumed. i just wanted to make sure before i screw something up.
@SporkMan, basically it seems slower, the battery life is awful and recently, i've noticed the phone itself is HOTTER. i carry it in a holster on my belt and this morning(while in court) i had it on airplane mode without GPS, wifi, etc on and it went from 85% battery to 42% batter in less then two hours and was hotter then it gets when i charge it off the wall adapter. i've NEVER gotten that bad of battery life. not even before i rooted it. thats just unacceptable.
plus, i haven't seen the talked-about speed gains in the applications, so it doesn't really provide me with anything new(correction, there is one thing i absolutely LOVE and that is the mass update in the Market. that just rules!)
SilverStone641 said:
That's what I assumed. i just wanted to make sure before i screw something up.
@SporkMan, basically it seems slower, the battery life is awful and recently, i've noticed the phone itself is HOTTER. i carry it in a holster on my belt and this morning(while in court) i had it on airplane mode without GPS, wifi, etc on and it went from 85% battery to 42% batter in less then two hours and was hotter then it gets when i charge it off the wall adapter. i've NEVER gotten that bad of battery life. not even before i rooted it. thats just unacceptable.
plus, i haven't seen the talked-about speed gains in the applications, so it doesn't really provide me with anything new(correction, there is one thing i absolutely LOVE and that is the mass update in the Market. that just rules!)
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maybe its the rom youre using. froyo battery life has been pretty much the same with me. try fresh or something!
chrisctb said:
maybe its the rom youre using. froyo battery life has been pretty much the same with me. try fresh or something!
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i suppose i could try that. i'm some what hesitant to move away from OMJ. i've been happy with his last rom, but this....ugh....
SilverStone641 said:
i suppose i could try that. i'm some what hesitant to move away from OMJ. i've been happy with his last rom, but this....ugh....
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you'll probably get a bunch of suggested roms to try, but my vote goes to BakedSnack and his Bkaed1 kernel. Hero tweaks the kernels to give killer battery - I've been raving about it ever since I switched over. I used to have to struggle to get over 13 hours battery - now I get over 20, without setcpu. You should nand and try it. If you don't like it, you can always nand back.
SilverStone641 said:
i suppose i could try that. i'm some what hesitant to move away from OMJ. i've been happy with his last rom, but this....ugh....
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try a new ROM slow has to be the rom ! battery life search this board LOADS of tips and tweaks for improved battery
i bought 2 battery's and a wall charger from ebay for 10$ with free shipping
fachadick said:
you'll probably get a bunch of suggested roms to try, but my vote goes to BakedSnack and his Bkaed1 kernel. Hero tweaks the kernels to give killer battery - I've been raving about it ever since I switched over. I used to have to struggle to get over 13 hours battery - now I get over 20, without setcpu. You should nand and try it. If you don't like it, you can always nand back.
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do you know if his kernel supports HDMI? or is that broken in all modified kernels?
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do you know if his kernel supports HDMI? or is that broken in all modified kernels?
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pretty sure it's broken in all modded kernels. Are you really one of the few that use/need hdmi? I'm curious - what do you use it for?
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pretty sure it's broken in all modded kernels. Are you really one of the few that use/need hdmi? I'm curious - what do you use it for?
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Netarchy's does it all
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=719763
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Netarchy's does it all
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=719763
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right! forgot he fixed that when he hit version 4 - I stopped using his kernel around 3.7ish when i went with Baked1. Sorry for the mis-info!
I would have to agree with the others. I use Fresh 3.1.0.1 and run Netarchy's 4.0.2 kernel, and my phone has never been faster, smoother, nor have I ever had better battery life as I do now. I took my phone off of the charger at 8:00 AM today, surfed the net, answered a few phone calls, did emails and messages for a total screen on time of about two hours so far. I also did 15 minutes of FM radio, and half hour of streaming Pandora on the way to work, and my battery is at 76% at 2:00 PM.
The other thing you might consider is that, it wouldn't surprise me if in a few months, aps compatible with the evo running 2.1 won't even show up for you in the market any more. I may be wrong, but something to consider.
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The other thing you might consider is that, it wouldn't surprise me if in a few months, aps compatible with the evo running 2.1 won't even show up for you in the market any more. I may be wrong, but something to consider.
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thats a good point. i hadn't thought of that.
Okay, i'm sticking with 2.2. i have to learn all about Baked Snack and figure out how to properly implement it.
@mikevillarroel i didn't realize netarchy had released a new version! i'm still rocking one of the 3 versions. sweeet!!
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thats a good point. i hadn't thought of that.
Okay, i'm sticking with 2.2. i have to learn all about Baked Snack and figure out how to properly implement it.
@mikevillarroel i didn't realize netarchy had released a new version! i'm still rocking one of the 3 versions. sweeet!!
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I did a pretty thorogh write-up on how I set myself up with BakedSnack over here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7600787&postcount=3617
You may find it useful
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I did a pretty thorogh write-up on how I set myself up with BakedSnack over here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7600787&postcount=3617
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Thanks! the part i'm MOST confused about is when i download the latest Baked Snack rom from that thread in development i only get a 318kb file. every other rom i've downloaded has been 125mb +. i don't really know what thats about
If you're talking about 1.2.5, the reason its so small is because its not a Rom. Check my link again. You have to wipe and flash 1.2 first, then 1.2.5 over that without wiping, unless you want the themed version (which I highly recommend) in which case you wipe, flash 1.2, then 1.2 themed without wiping, then 1.2.5 themed without wiping. It sounds like more of a pita than it is, and its worth it in the end.
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thats exactly the info i needed. thanks!
SilverStone641 said:
thats exactly the info i needed. thanks!
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Awesome! Let us know the results.
And just because I gotta say it (I think its a law), that info was mentioned many times in the BS thread.
Good luck!
Edit- looks like hero just posted a new 1.3, so ignore my steps above and just wipe (dont forget dalvic) and install the 1.3 full version.
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is there any order that i should follow with a new Rom and kernel? i.e. kernel first then rom or vice versa?
I just got an Evo last week and I have been loving it aside from the battery issues. I just noticed that this evo only support 3 point multitouch and some users had claimed that 5 point multitouch works for them.
Should I call Best Buy or Sprint and ask for one that support 5 point multitouch?
Is that even worth it?
Please advise.
A note on multitouch:
Some of you may have used my 5point multitouch test builds with success, others with failure. Research has shown that the Evo's contain at least 2 different versions of the touch sensor, one of which does not support 5point multitouch (but it DOES support 3point). You can check which sensor you have using adb by issuing the following command: "adb shell cat /sys/android_touch/vendor" and examining the result. If your result is ATMEL_x0080_x0016, your phone can support 5point. If your result is ATMEL_x004F_x0016, your phone will only support up to 3point.
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I verified that shell shows ATMEL_X004F
Oh yeah, DEFINITELY take it back. I don't know what I would do without those 2 extra points.
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Oh yeah, DEFINITELY take it back. I don't know what I would do without those 2 extra points.
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sad part is i can't tell if your being a smart ass of dead serious lol
I doubt you can return it as it doesnt effect performance unless there is such an app that supports 5 point touch. BTW this is due to the new batch of EVO's coming with the new screens, different connectors etc.
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sad part is i can't tell if your being a smart ass of dead serious lol
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The former. Don't tell OP though.
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The former. Don't tell OP though.
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LOL !!!
Sporkman said:
sad part is i can't tell if your being a smart ass of dead serious lol
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lol thought the same thing
I'm new to the Evo, that's why I asked. Am I missing out on something with not having 5 dots working?
jtadeo said:
lol thought the same thing
I'm new to the Evo, that's why I asked. Am I missing out on something with not having 5 dots working?
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Nah, you're fine. My old Evo had 5 point, my replacement that I just got has 3. There is no real world difference, no apps besides multipoint visualizer even make use of 3, and that's just a test program. Keep your Evo, and cherish and protect it with your life.
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Nah, you're fine. My old Evo had 5 point, my replacement that I just got has 3. There is no real world difference, no apps besides multipoint visualizer even make use of 3, and that's just a test program. Keep your Evo, and cherish and protect it with your life.
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Thanks for the info
already have this bad boy protected with bodyguardz full body skin
No prob. How do you like it so far? It's an amazing device, even with its unfortunate 3 point multitouch limitation!
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No prob. How do you like it so far? It's an amazing device, even with its unfortunate 3 point multitouch limitation!
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Runs great, but having some strange battery issues. Running the latest flipz rom and kings cfs #11 and the battery drops 20% within 10 minutes with hardly any use.
I performed a full reboot and didn't launch any apps and it did the same thing. I just Flashed netarchy-toastmod-4.1.9.1-cfs-havs-universal-signed so hopefully I get different results.
20% in the first 10 minutes is a little unusual, most people's Evo's tend to drop 10%. It has something to do with the way the phone charges the battery, once it gets up to 100% it stops charging altogether (no trickle) and doesn't start charging again till the battery drops down till about 90% (I believe). If you unplug your phone at 100%, turn it off and plug it back in until the light turns green and then turn it back on, you should get a full charge out of it. Also, your phone is new, so I'm sure it hasn't profiled the battery fully yet, which is probably where that extra 10% is coming from. Give it a few days and I'm sure you'll see it level out.
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20% in the first 10 minutes is a little unusual, most people's Evo's tend to drop 10%. It has something to do with the way the phone charges the battery, once it gets up to 100% it stops charging altogether (no trickle) and doesn't start charging again till the battery drops down till about 90% (I believe). If you unplug your phone at 100%, turn it off and plug it back in until the light turns green and then turn it back on, you should get a full charge out of it. Also, your phone is new, so I'm sure it hasn't profiled the battery fully yet, which is probably where that extra 10% is coming from. Give it a few days and I'm sure you'll see it level out.
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I haven't completely let it die out so that may be another problem. Lowest I have let this thing go is about 50%. I will try to drain it now, will report later.
Thanks again.
I only have 2 points =(
Mudkip said:
I only have 2 points =(
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If you are running a stock kernel then you will only have 2 points. You need to flash a custom kernel in order to have 3 or 5. Honestly though, there is no use for any more than 2 touchpoints.
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If you are running a stock kernel then you will only have 2 points. You need to flash a custom kernel in order to have 3 or 5. Honestly though, there is no use for any more than 2 touchpoints.
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i am running the cm6 kernal.
I dunno, I'm not on cm6 so I don't know what that kernel supports. Seriously though, have you come into any situation that required you to have more than 2? Didn't think so.
To everyone: Stop worrying about touchpoints, benchmarks, etc... and just enjoy your phones.
but i tried to get into hboot with the charger plugged in, the thing vibrated 3 times, now won't boot on, what did i do?
nvm, battery was dead. swapped to my other battery and it turned on just fine.
i feel like an idiot, now
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lol. I guess you fixed it.
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yeah, battery was dead, plugged into the charger then hit the boot button, then it turned on and i was like "oh ****, oh **** oh-oh, i guess the battery needed to be charged"
so, any admin please delete this thread.
reading this makes me ill. I had the 3 vibrate problem twice ended up with a good refurb and my warranty ends today.. I've been offered $180 for my inc1 !!. I just can't let her go though.
andybones said:
reading this makes me ill. I had the 3 vibrate problem twice ended up with a good refurb and my warranty ends today.. I've been offered $180 for my inc1 !!. I just can't let her go though.
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i got it to boot up. the battery was low, because i plugged it in and it booted just fine, it was my mistake
For future reference, you're a lot less likely to get help if you post things like this. No need for caps lock and a demanding attitude.
Kiboe said:
PLEASE AWNSER, I DO NOT WANT THIS TO SIT
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Not trying to be a ****, just letting you know.
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For future reference, you're a lot less likely to get help if you post things like this. No need for caps lock and a demanding attitude.
Not trying to be a ****, just letting you know.
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yeah, i know, i feel like an idiot after i found out the problem (stock batteries don't like custom roms)
and i kindly request can anyone delete this?
you can try PM'ing some moderators, but honestly I think they're all out having drinks, indefinitely.
POQbum said:
you can try PM'ing some moderators, but honestly I think they're all out having drinks, indefinitely.
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yeah. i was buying.
Well I had no other better name to call it, maybe perhaps tyrannosaurs kernel, but the name is moot.
The kernel was too strong and has killed the device. No power, no boot, nothing.
Kernel kill count ~ 4
I'm terrible sorry to anyone that flashed it...
Credits:
Tsudeily- Making the thread that I responded to and pursued this little endeavor
broodplank1337 - For writing the guide I used to make this kernel
dsixda - Wonderful work on the android kitchen
ben.nesheim - lovely kernel mirror
The general Android community
Standard Disclaimer: I'm not responsible for anything you do to your baby, but do hope you enjoy it
I used this guide, that can be found here > http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1698582
Features:
-Stock rom kernel [root access]
-boot animation support
-init.d [can be used for scripts that use it, potentially undervolting]
This isn't meant to be a kill them all kernel, but we have to have something, right?
I STRONGLY recommend making a backup before flashing.
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Mirror: [removed]
I'm not fancy, so its from my dropbox.
1st.... lol 1st on so many fronts!!!!
Sent from my SPH-L710 using XDA
Glad it worked out for ya.
"And so it begins"
This journey to never ending flashing Kernels, roms etc.... let the FUN BEGIN!!!
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Glad it worked out for ya.
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Hey, you chopped me down of my intelligence and made me think of the pointer of the script. Wouldn't be here without that.
Please no one flash...
What happened with it?
teh roxxorz said:
Please no one flash...
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What happened with it?
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You don't wana know. Killed my device.
Oh **** man.. I'm sorry. :s
teh roxxorz said:
You don't wana know. Killed my device.
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wish you would have posted that sooner, as it just killed my phone:crying:. good thing i have a 0$ deductible protection plan with BB.
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Oh **** man.. I'm sorry. :s
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I legit have tears in my eyes right now.
swampy67 said:
wish you would have posted that sooner, as it just killed my phone:crying:. good thing i have a 0$ deductible protection plan with BB.
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I'm so sorry...well good thing I had TEP...I'm legit crying.
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Oh **** man.. I'm sorry. :s
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let me know if you find a fix
You guys, I am so sorry.
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I legit have tears in my eyes right now.
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wish you would have posted that sooner, as it just killed my phone:crying:. good thing i have a 0$ deductible protection plan with BB.
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You guys, I am so sorry.
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**** happens, no hard feelings towards dev.:highfive:
I don't know if this will work, but in this thread of our forums http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1727171 this guy provided a stock unaltered boot.img to flash via odin to help those who flashed a foreign root on their devices. Maybe this will help.. Though I'm not sure if I should be asking if things work anymore.
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**** happens, no hard feelings towards dev.:highfive:
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I really appreciate that, but feel terrible still
Tsudeily said:
I don't know if this will work, but in this thread of our forums http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1727171 this guy provided a stock unaltered boot.img to flash via odin to help those who flashed a foreign root on their devices. Maybe this will help.. Though I'm not sure if I should be asking if things work anymore.
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And well I don't think that it would, if the device can't turn on. If we can get it to turn on, maybe. I'm gona be at this like a hawk now.
man I am so sorry.. Truly I am.
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And well I don't think that it would, if the device can't turn on. If we can get it to turn on, maybe. I'm gona be at this like a hawk now.
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Tsudeily said:
I don't know if this will work, but in this thread of our forums http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1727171 this guy provided a stock unaltered boot.img to flash via odin to help those who flashed a foreign root on their devices. Maybe this will help.. Though I'm not sure if I should be asking if things work anymore.
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yeah phone is completely non-responsive, LED wont even light up when plugged into charger. cant boot into download mode or recovery. it seems to be completely bricked. At least on my end
Tsudeily said:
man I am so sorry.. Truly I am.
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I just feel terrible for all the people I brought down with me.
swampy67 said:
yeah phone is completely non-responsive, LED wont even light up when plugged into charger. cant boot into download mode or recovery. it seems to be completely bricked. At least on my end
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Yea...same here.
For like the past day or two my phone has been running extremely hot and the battery isnt charging like it normally does. Now it charges extremely slowly, if at all sometimes, and no the contacts are not dirty. I Tried charging it using USB and also wall outlet, ive tried changing the wall "brick" used to plug in my usb cord to higher and lower amperage and voltage but same problem. Now back to the heat problem, Ive tried switching up ROMs, kernels, ROM/kernel combinations just in case it was a kernel and/or ROM problem and same thing. Both problems happen with my 3800mAh extended battery and stock battery. Please if anyone knows anything about this or has any help its well appreciated.
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For like the past day or two my phone has been running extremely hot and the battery isnt charging like it normally does. Now it charges extremely slowly, if at all sometimes, and no the contacts are not dirty. I Tried charging it using USB and also wall outlet, ive tried changing the wall "brick" used to plug in my usb cord to higher and lower amperage and voltage but same problem. Now back to the heat problem, Ive tried switching up ROMs, kernels, ROM/kernel combinations just in case it was a kernel and/or ROM problem and same thing. Both problems happen with my 3800mAh extended battery and stock battery. Please if anyone knows anything about this or has any help its well appreciated.
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Weird, dude. Well you close to being able to safely assume its not a software issue. But before ruling that out completely I would Odin back to stock; it really does make a difference. Also, can you tell me where the phone is getting the hottest at? Is it just the battery or is it somewhere else?
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Weird, dude. Well you close to being able to safely assume its not a software issue. But before ruling that out completely I would Odin back to stock; it really does make a difference. Also, can you tell me where the phone is getting the hottest at? Is it just the battery or is it somewhere else?
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Yea maybe ill try to get back to stock im just not used to odin. And it isnt really much the battery thats getting hot but actually the top of the phone from the very tip top down to about half way, yea really strange.
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Yea maybe ill try to get back to stock im just not used to odin. And it isnt really much the battery thats getting hot but actually the top of the phone from the very tip top down to about half way, yea really strange.
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Its starting to sound like you have a hardware problem. I'm not sure what device is right there but I think its the radio? Maybe someone can confirm.
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Yea maybe ill try to get back to stock im just not used to odin. And it isnt really much the battery thats getting hot but actually the top of the phone from the very tip top down to about half way, yea really strange.
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for the love of all that is good and holy, dont use ODIN. use fastboot.
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Its starting to sound like you have a hardware problem. I'm not sure what device is right there but I think its the radio? Maybe someone can confirm.
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Think sprint will look at it even though its rooted or must i unroot first? I took my old Nexus S and 3D to them rooted and they still checked them out. Thanks for the help
Zepius said:
for the love of all that is good and holy, dont use ODIN. use fastboot.
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Gonna try that as a last resort
NexusS4gFreak said:
Think sprint will look at it even though its rooted or must i unroot first? I took my old Nexus S and 3D to them rooted and they still checked them out. Thanks for the help
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They may not care, but I personally would try to get back to stock not to chance it.
Also, I most definitely recommend fastboot over Odin. The only time I would use Odin, is if my USB port died and I wanted to get back to stock.
OKayy thanks ill try that
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They may not care, but I personally would try to get back to stock not to chance it.
Also, I most definitely recommend fastboot over Odin. The only time I would use Odin, is if my USB port died and I wanted to get back to stock.
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OKayy thanks ill try that
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OKayy thanks ill try that
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wipe off battery stats from cwm it can help you fixing the charging problem.
hit thanks if I helped.