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The effects of using different roms and radios?

Hopefully this doesn't come off as to dumb but i had a few questions i was hoping someone would know.
I searched quite a while and didn't come up with anything relevant.
Im wondering what effects using a different rom(or radio if im saying it wrong) has on the quality of signals, call clarity and overall performance.
For example, say i had the stock WM6 rom from tmobile on my dash, would the signal and quality be better since it's released specially for tmobiles network?
Ive noticed that using the tmobile rom, my signal wasn't that great, the HTC WWE one was ok, but still dropped calls, rogers was probably the best ive used so far, it terms of call quality and signal strength. Currently im using the brightpoint rom, and i get alot of dropped calls in places i should, and previously had full edge.
Now im probably thinking of something different but would using a different rom really have that much effect on the signal? i dont know exactly who brightpoint is, but say like with the rogers rom, is the fact that its Canadian have any effect on the quality?
Hopefully that makes any sense, it made more sense in my head but alas im a bit on the dumb end of things.
Also i never looked in to it, but it is possible to just change...radios... i think it would be.. and leave the 6.1 OS?
Oh im using rickys 17th by the way.

I'm not certain because I have not tried it yet but after spelunking the forums I believe the radio ROM update is separate from the OS ROM update.

I have tried the Kavana and Kavana/Ricky rom aside from the regular tmo wm6 and have not noticed any irregularities in signal strenght.

thats what i figured, im guessing its just tmobile has horrible signal where i live.

Well the new version (23) seems to be giving me a better signal at my work. I now have 3 bars instead of just 1 or 2. You can download it below and try it to see that it works.

Supposedly, the 6.1 roms don't have radios flashed with them.
Unless I am wrong, whatever radio you are using before, is the same after.

Yea, I Havent Noticed A Difference, I Was Runnin Wm 5 And Now I Have Ricky's 23rd, If Anything Its Better... But Iono. I Shall Have To See... I Think Its The Same As Before Tho

So is a radio included with Rickys latest rom (v23)? Or do u need to install one after installation

as far as i know the 6.1 roms use what ever radio is previously installed on your system. I believe mine is the 03.07.90 brightpoint rom

flashing the NAM Diamond (unbranded with US 3g bands)

I am new to this on the diamond, so I have a pretty basic question. I have a NAM version diamond. When HTC came out with their new ROM last month or so, I contacted them and they said it was not designed for my phone and to wait and see if one is put out for the NAM version (has US 3g bands and no front cam). Will I run into any problems with installing cooked ROMs, etc that are available. I read the sticky on what to do first, and understand to do all the HardSPL, etc. Not exactly sure about the radio and actual ROMs that I would be able to use. Just want to make sure its compatible so that I have the least chance of bricking my phone. My last time customizing phones was with the razr v3i, and there were certain roms that could/could not be applied to the phone depending on if it the type of v3i. I know that I have the following specs:
ROM: 1.93.422.4 WWE
ROM Date: 08/13/08
Radio: 1.0025.08
Protocol version: 52.33a.25.17H
Wanted to get some input from others with the Diam 110 with US 3G version of the phone as see what they recommend, as well as others who can help out. Also, when I was modding the v3i, there were programs that could back up your current rom so that it was possible to flash it back if any problems occured. Is there anyway to do this with the diamond? If not, where can I find the stock HTC rom for the US 3G Diamond (haven't been able to find it here on xda). Thanks again for helping out a new guy.

any advice?

It's sad, but HTC has been unfair to us. First they remove the front camera from our phone and then they decided to just ignore the US 3G GSM diamond. They haven't even bothered to release even a single update for us. Very unprofessional behavior by HTC. I am seriously considering ASUS for my next phone.
But XDA is our heaven! once you have the hardspl, you are good to go. Use any GSM ROM on this forum and you should be OK. Don't forget to follow all the instructions mentioned in the sticky for flashing ROMS.
I didn't care to backup my original ROM as I had HTC elf before and was well aware of the ROMS available on XDA. However, I do recall getting a ROM installation CD in phone package. Check your package... you might have it too.
But, frankly, once you use custom ROM from here, you will not go back to HTC's ROM.

I'll echo what Ark said here, it sucks that they leave us (all 5 of us ) out in the cold with the unlocked NAM phones, but HardSPL will solve all of your problems.
I followed the instructions on flashing HardSPL and used the latest WWE ROM from HTC and it worked like a champ. It was actually the best thing I ever did with the Diamond, as the 2.03 ROMs are 100x faster and better than the stock ROM. I highly suggest taking the time and steps to flash it.
The only things that were different when I flashed the WWE HTC ROM was that Microsoft Voice Command was replaced by the Cybotron Voice Dialing application. Also, the region is set to the UK, which is easily changed. Also, if you're using AT&T here in the US, you have to install Advanced Config or make a change to the registry to enable HUSPA in Advanced Network.
Hope this helps.

I have HardSPL on my NAM Diamond, and have flashed literally dozens of cooked and stock ROMs with no issues whatsoever. Such a great phone with the cooked ROMs! I'm pretty sure I have seen threads about getting your phone back to its original state if you wish to. I would recommend searching around a bit and you should find some info.
Enjoy your flashing!

and.. what about the radio? is posible to update too? or you recomend to stay in the original radio version that came with the DIAM 110?
Thanks in advance.
Regards,

Everything works just as it would on the euro units.
I've messed around with different build of official htc roms on my NAM, and i went back to the factory 193 build (same as OP). The newer builds have damn near all of the animation taken out. It fixed some things, and messed up other things. WHY they would add slide to answer is beyond me.
Also, i've tried a million radios. Here in chicago, doesnt matter what radio i use. i get horrible reception with this thing. In my house, every phone i have, gets full 3G reception. With the diamond? it bounces between 2/3/4 bars.
Going somewhere with shakey reception? the Diamond gets even worse.
So, i stuck with the factory radio as well, because it gave the best battery life.
So, for me, flashing was pointless. I left it harspl'd though for when 6.5 comes out though.

Thanks everyone. Glad to see atleast a few others have the US version of the diamond. I guess the only think I have to do now is decide which rom to pick.
@aphexacid: my phone gets great reception so far. I've tried it out in Houston and New York for extended periods of time. Had a few more dropped calls in NYC, but I think that's a network thing more than the phone. Also, is there a way that you backed up your stock rom to flash it back, or is it available somewhere? I know it's not at HTC's website when I looked. Just want to have it in case I decide to go back to basics like you did.

I also have NAM 3G diamond (Rogers branded) w/ front cam
Should I try this rom?
RUU_Diamond_HTC_WWE-ME_2.03.456.2_Radio_Signed_Diamond_52.51.25.26_1.0 9.25.23_Ship

Just wanted to thank everyone for chiming in. Changed the rom last night, and thankfully everything went fine. If anyone has one they especially like, I'd like to hear about it. Still searching for the rom that would be ideal.

I've tried many ROMs here but always go back to Shaks.
Best performance and stability out there period.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=462455

Yeah I put on Macadam and it's pretty good. I was looking at Shak's as well. Maybe when I get bored i'll switch to see which I like better. It's a pain to get everything setup again so that phone is how you like it, but I guess that's the price for having such customized roms.

Noobs,and Everyone Alike(Update Your Radio)

I know a lot of you out there are obviously updating to newer, cooked ROMs. This by far is the best bet when spending the kind of money we are on these phones. You get much more out of your new phone than it is capable of doing from the factory or retail store.
I want to instill in everyone's mind how truly important it is to check out the new radios available for the phone. It takes literally 5 minutes or less start to finish to flash a new radio. You won't lose your newly flashed ROM or any settings that I have found. So, please take notice to my advice. Below is the link for all the newly updated radios for our device. Check out a few of them and make some calls, use your gps. I believe you will be much happier with a new radio, because frankly the stock radios are garbage.
My call signal strength is maxed out in my home whereas it only had 2-3 bars before. My gps doesn't lag behind me anymore, and My Location works perfectly since flashing a new radio. So, try one out. It definitely can't hurt. Below is the link to the thread with all of the newer radios. ENJOY!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=549939

i never knew what the radios purpose was, i had a hunch i was something like what you described here but now that im sure id like to say thank you and ill definitely be changing my radio

outerdepth said:
I know a lot of you out there are obviously updating to newer, cooked ROMs. This by far is the best bet when spending the kind of money we are on these phones. You get much more out of your new phone than it is capable of doing from the factory or retail store.
I want to instill in everyone's mind how truly important it is to check out the new radios available for the phone. It takes literally 5 minutes or less start to finish to flash a new radio. You won't lose your newly flashed ROM or any settings that I have found. So, please take notice to my advice. Below is the link for all the newly updated radios for our device. Check out a few of them and make some calls, use your gps. I believe you will be much happier with a new radio, because frankly the stock radios are garbage.
My call signal strength is maxed out in my home whereas it only had 2-3 bars before. My gps doesn't lag behind me anymore, and My Location works perfectly since flashing a new radio. So, try one out. It definitely can't hurt. Below is the link to the thread with all of the newer radios. ENJOY!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=549939
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You're TMO-US, right? Which radio did you use?

sixsevenco said:
You're TMO-US, right? Which radio did you use?
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He mentioned in another thread that the radio he flashed to is the one ending in .57, and that's the one I'd suggest you start with. I happen to have it already because it's the one that comes with the stock T-mo 6.5 ROM...but if you've running any ROM's with a different radio, you'll want to give this one a shot. A few other T-mo users have reported good results with the .77 radio, but I'd still start with the .57 if you haven't already.

thanks outerdepth...
I have always figured I should update my radio, but never bothered/got around to it. Your post re-motivated me, so I updated from .25 to .77 and...
100% improvement!!
My gps accuracy used to be off by about a city block, which I attributed to the fact that 'oh well its a cel phone, what can I expect', now is accurate within a meter or two.
My data speeds are much improved, and I dunno if its my imagination or not, but calls even seem clearer and have a better sound quality to them.
Dont know about battery drain yet, but its not really important to me cause I'm a truck driver, so I can leave my phone plugged in most of the time in the truck
Thanks!!

So this might be a dumb question but are these radio updates official? They overwrite ROM so I'm kinda always wary to ever try this. I have the official HTC ROM from their website and I assume you can flash it back but I'm not sure.

The ROM will stay, all your contacts/text/etc will stay, and you SHOULD NOT have to worry about losing anything. You can use a program like SPB Back Up or Sprite back up if you are worried though.

Which radio to use on TP2 on Sprint?

Does my location and company plays any part on this issue of the radios?
I have a 6.5 AT&T Rom in Puerto Rico

kbradio said:
Which radio to use on TP2 on Sprint?
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You want to head over here
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=90342
I switched to VZW 1.88 and it is about the same as the PCS 2.32 in my area but I put a bunch of radios on my SD card in case I travel and have no bars so I can use this method to flash on the go.

EdAmsterdam said:
Does my location and company plays any part on this issue of the radios?
I have a 6.5 AT&T Rom in Puerto Rico
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The thread about TP2 Radios tells you how to choose the ones that will work for you, just look for the ones that say AT&T and start there.

Furious911 said:
So this might be a dumb question but are these radio updates official? They overwrite ROM so I'm kinda always wary to ever try this. I have the official HTC ROM from their website and I assume you can flash it back but I'm not sure.
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The radio-roms are "official". However, in order to flash one you have to first do the HardSPL, which isn't official....and may not be completely reversible, depending on what carrier-branded (if any) phone you have.
The only reason this SPL issue may matter is if you have to return for warranty return. If they swap the phone for you in a store then surely nobody in a store will know the difference...but if you have to send it to HTC then non-stock tampering may be evident.
That being said, it hasn't stopped me from taking full benefit of what this site has to offer and make full use of what is possible with my TP2.

Good advice for everyone.
Some of the newer cooked roms require a particular radio...or at least will work best with a particular radio. Before flashing any new rom, read to see if the chef suggests a certain one.

Tanks sirphunkee

Does my phone have to be unlocked to install a new radio as is the case with installing a new ROM?

gotvet said:
Does my phone have to be unlocked to install a new radio as is the case with installing a new ROM?
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No, the security lock only prevents you from switching carriers. Shouldn't affect the radio.
And in any case the phone doesn't have to be unlocked to install a custom ROM, it has to have a different hard SPL.

[Q] Wanting to flash new radio on the Tmobile G2.

I want to flash a new radio to my T-Mobile G2 but i am Really scared on which one i can and cannot flash because they can brick my phone. Any Suggestions and or comments/advice? I have read over the offical Radio Thread and cannot find anything to specify which is which. Thanks in advance
-Chris

Im fairly certain that all the radios so far in the Radio Thread can be used with the G2, I myself have used these three:
Vision_RADIO_12.28e.60.140f_26.04.02.17( best results for me with this one)
Vision_RADIO_12.28b.60.140e_26.03.02.26
Vision_TMOUS_RADIO_12.21.60.09b_26.02.01.15 (G2)

don't worry as long as you have prem root and s-off with eng-hboot you should be fine flashing a radio. I was able to flash it using PC10IMG way and it worked fine lol
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App

Thanks for the quick response! Is "Vision_RADIO_12.28e.60.140f_26.04.02.17" the best one so far to use? I just flashed it and everything went okay but i cant really see if it improved anything.... :/

Well there's a new one out but its not posted in the offical radio thread yet (maybe it is haven't check yet lol). Well for me I mainly saw a diffrence with the signal bar never going to zero. Most of the time its 1-3 bars at the 1st floor of my house and on the second floor I get about full bars at the most. Oh yea for some reason I saw that my wifi was stronger to but don't know if the radio fixed that to
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App

I flashed the new radio and RiL files, this was about a week ago and I have to say the battery life as well as the signal and data is far better. The GPS is more stable than ever. I am one happy noob. LOL Thanks for the instructions and the links.
This is the radio I use
Vision_RADIO_12.28e.60.140f_26.04.02.17( best results for me with this one)

Been there done that. Messes with your network connectivity. Don't do that. Stick with stock radio.
Sent from my HTC Sensation using xda premium

I flasht the radio last week, it looks i have a new phone, everything works beter. Wifi, 3g, front and rear speaker
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App

CalCi059 said:
Been there done that. Messes with your network connectivity. Don't do that. Stick with stock radio.
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Whether a particular radio improves reception (and therefore battery drain) or hurts it, often depends on your local geography. Newer radios often have other fixes as well, so they are a good place to start. But its usually more trial and error, and there is no overall "best" or "better" radio.
Also, there is not one "stock" radio. It depends on what version of the phone you have, what region/carrier, and when you got your phone. There are often different radios for different carriers, and each carrier usually gets a radio updates, which then get installed on the phones as they ship.
If you don't understand these concepts, you probably should not be flashing any radios on your phone to begin with.

Your better off going to this thread for RADIO'S http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=970809
All the links in the 2nd post above are megaupload and there's only a few radio's more have surfaced over time.

Best Radio for T-Mobile UK

Hello folks,
I know this is one of the most repetitive questions asked in this forum but mine is slightly different. I read many posts which says you have to test all the radios yourself and decide what suits you. I am running AOSP GB ROM.
I tried the latest 27.03 then went to 5.14.05.17, both seemed good and I was having good coverage for mobile/GPS. But the main problem is when I want to use 3G for mobile browsing. I see full coverage, H and everything, but when I try to browse something, nothing happens, its like no data is sent/received...It'll stay like that for few seconds sometimes a minute too and then does send/receive which annoys me a lot and prefer a consistent 2G connection which works 100% even though its slow. It happens quite regularly. This is irrespective of which ROM I use so it may be to do with -
a. Radio
b. Phone
c. T-Mobile UK
Btw, I am on "unlimited" data plan.
So just want to know if there are any T-Mobile UK users who don't have this problem and would wish to know which radio suits best for them and then I may try that n see if that helps or infact anything to boost 3G data transfers ?
Help much appreciated.
Cheers,
RD

..... I will say what you said and a lot of people said. Try each radio to see which suits you the best.
If your still having issues (which you are) then give T-Mobile a call. They do diagnostic checks and everything so they will be able to help you out more than what we can.

i find 32.44.00.32U_5.09.05.30_2 seems to hold a constant H

Hey Thank you both for replying. John, I flashed the radio you said above and it is behaving good so far. Will test this throughout the day but initial impressions are definitely better.

i will definitely second that. i have been using 32.44.00.32U_5.09.05.30_2 for a long time on my Desire (TMobile) and its the best i have tried.

Is 32.44.00.32U_5.09.05.30_2 'compatible' with 2.3.3 Gingerbread ROMs?

I am so glad you have created this thread as I havn't got round to it. This problem is a constant pain in the ass, and is driving me nuts.
You have mentioned, if it was to do with 'T-Mobile UK' themselves as I believed it was. I've contacted numerous times regarding this matter but they hadn't a clue what I was on about and I presumed it was to do with the recent merge up with 'Orange UK' to create Everything Everywhere that I signed upto, so I had requested to opt out but they're demanding me to tell them what the reason and issue was, so I did, but they did not respect my decision of wanting to opt out, so I didn't take it any further. If you are signed to Everything Everywhere, then we may have something there...
So, I left that to be... until I investigated the other possibilities... I tried flashing other ROM'S but the problem kept persisting.
However, I have never discovered it could be to do with the 'Radio' I'm using, hopefully it is as it will be less of a hassle for myself and others alike.
I await a solution...;(

Anybody can help assist me? Thanks

sh500 said:
Is 32.44.00.32U_5.09.05.30_2 'compatible' with 2.3.3 Gingerbread ROMs?
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Sure is
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA Premium App

Would radio '5.17.05.23' fix this issue?

Deeco7 said:
Would radio '5.17.05.23' fix this issue?
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no radio is going to fix the issue, i've had that problem since i had the htc hero, tried all the radios, they all the same , can;t really see the difference .the same thing with the desire. what made it worse since the merged with orange.
the only good thing about orange , i get good reception indoors, good for making or receiving calls, no internet .
indoors wifi . oudoors hsdpa(t-mobile) when you a good signal is good . i wouldn't bother flashing more radios, it's t-mobile's **** coverage.
hope this helps

Thanks for your reply.
My first instincts was that is was to do with the Orange merger. If there is a slight improvement by flashing a different radio I would be grateful, if however as you say it makes no difference I'd leave the radio as it is.
It would be great if others can confirm/post a solution.
Thank you.