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Been searching the forums for some time now and I still have yet to find a straight through answer. Anyone help me out or at least push me in the right direction?
Boot into recovery. Select Backup/Restore. Select Nand Backup.
This in Amon_RA recovery. If you do not have this recovery, look in the development forums for his thread. Instructions inside.
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You can also do this through clockwork by using similar steps, or through the backup current rom option in rom manager.
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Wouldn't this not make since to do after your rooted, I mean what's the point of backing everything up. Wouldn't you back up your phone b4 u attempt root so if things don't go to plan you'll have a nand backup. Why back things up after your rooted your already successful.......
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Pbrussell said:
Wouldn't this not make since to do after your rooted, I mean what's the point of backing everything up. Wouldn't you back up your phone b4 u attempt root so if things don't go to plan you'll have a nand backup. Why back things up after your rooted your already successful.......
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Because from roms to themes to things like radios, the point of rooting is to customize your phone, meaning that there'll be a lot of things you're adding and removing that could plain **** your phone up.
All spelling errors thanks to xt9 on my Evo!
Understood, did the backup just in case.
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Pbrussell said:
Wouldn't this not make since to do after your rooted, I mean what's the point of backing everything up. Wouldn't you back up your phone b4 u attempt root so if things don't go to plan you'll have a nand backup. Why back things up after your rooted your already successful.......
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The point of backing up is to save things you don't want to lose; it's the same premise as backing up your PC.
sombdy said:
Boot into recovery. Select Backup/Restore. Select Nand Backup.
This in Amon_RA recovery. If you do not have this recovery, look in the development forums for his thread. Instructions inside.
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thanks, I am using Amon_ra rom currently.
Now do certain roms require you to do updates for wiimax/radio etc.... because I'm on stock rooted froyo .6 so will I retain those updates with most roms or will they all be reset and need updating? If so how would I distinguish between ones that ned updating and ones that don't
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what is it, where can i find it, why can't I find it anywhere on market or google? is it better than clockwork backup/restore?
I assume you are trying to make a nandroid backup? This can be done thru clockwork recovery. It is making a backup of the NAND, or flash memory in which the system/data is stored on.
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I actually had to research that early on, so don't feel bad
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Now that's funny.
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This thread is failtastic
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We were all new at some point guys...
To the OP:
1: Boot into Clockwork Recovery.
2: Go down to Backup And Restore
3: Press Backup.
4: Wait about 3minutes til it completes.
Thats what they call a Nandroid Backup. Its not an app or anything like that.
We make Nandroid backups incase we mess up our phones, we just restore it if were able to get into clockwork.
If you dont have Clockworkmod installed, go to the sticky in Android Development for the Epic and follow the guide.
PM me if you need any more help than that. I remember being a noob as well.
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so to sum it up, if you're planning on jumping from rom to rom to theme to kernel,
having a nandroid backup is like using a condom.
which you should, cuz u never know.
Stay in school.
Lol I know what clockwork backup and restore is.....just didn't know it was the same as a nandroid backup. Thanks.... -the noob
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petrafan007 said:
Lol I know what clockwork backup and restore is.....just didn't know it was the same as a nandroid backup. Thanks.... -the noob
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Yup, if you go to backup and restore you can see it says "Nandroid" at the top of the screen. Hence Nandroid Backup.
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petrafan007 said:
Lol I know what clockwork backup and restore is.....just didn't know it was the same as a nandroid backup. Thanks.... -the noob
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Always, always make a full backup prior to making any "major" change (rom, kernel, theme). I archive my backups on my server to keep from cluttering up the sd card and only carry the last backup on the sd.
You can also restore just data or just cache if you do a full wipe (i.e., for a rom flash) and don't want to deal with titanium (advanced restore) - saved my ass on a couple bad downloads/beta roms.
Also, welcome to the wonderful (and addicting) world of modding
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addiction is definitely the right word. probably tried at least 7 roms. finally settled on the quantum rom with dk17 modem. works great! wish it was a little faster though.
petrafan007 said:
addiction is definitely the right word. probably tried at least 7 roms. finally settled on the quantum rom with dk17 modem. works great! wish it was a little faster though.
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DK17 modem? Where did you find this? I'm still on the DK05 modem.
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DK17 modem? Where did you find this? I'm still on the DK05 modem.
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He either meant to say DK17 Kernel, or DK05 Modem.
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yes, sorry, kernel
i always saw that option before but didnt know what it acully did untill now
I am new to rooting the Epic 4g, but not new to rooting in general. I had an HTC Hero (cdma) and am now on the Evo 4g. I understand all the terminology associated with rooting/flashing, etc, however, the Epic is a little different. I just rooted my wife's ECO5 Epic using the most recent One-Click method and everything worked great. The first thing I did was make a backup. I would like to flash Syndicate Frozen 1.2 but am a little confused on this whole files system jargon as it isn't existent or an option on the EVO. My questions are as follows: If I flash Syndicate Rom 1.2 and the Genocide kernel, I understand that it will convert my files system to Ext4 automatically, but if for some reason I don't like it, can I simply recover my backup in CWM and go back to stock? Or do I need to ODIN back to stock and reset up my whole system as I had it prior? I see that the One-Click 3.1.0.1 method I used has dual file system support. What does that all impact? Just new roms or my current ROM. I have done a bunch of research but haven't been comfortable in my findings enough to start flashing. Can someone please clarify this for me?
I believe there are scripts available to convert between the two file systems, in both directions.
That said, EXT4 is the way to go imo. Don't be shy about it. Sfr 1.2 is top rom in my book. Do take the time to go get the other goodies as well. Hotspot hack, and the supercharger script. It's all amazing when it comes together.
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Clockworkmod 3.1.0.1 does not restore filesystem type (ext4, rfs). You can either odin back to rfs or flash a .zip in Clockworkmod. Also, if you have access to odin, there is NO WAY you can brick your phone. It will ALWAYS be recoverable.
(unless you intentionally brick it, there are ways)
So just to clarify, I must ODIN back to stock and thenin recover my backup, which is just stock? Or, can my stock backup run on Ext4?
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legasus233 said:
So just to clarify, I must ODIN back to stock and thenin recover my backup, which is just stock? Or, can my stock backup run on Ext4?
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Best to restore first and do the conversion, but there is no reason you can't restore after. Although I usually do advanced restore data between file systems myself.
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Will the completely stock rooted rom run on ext4? Or is my backup useless unless I convert back to rfs file system?
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legasus233 said:
Will the completely stock rooted rom run on ext4? Or is my backup useless unless I convert back to rfs file system?
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If I remember right, stock runs on ext4. As long as you have a different kernel. Stock kernel does NOT run on ext4.
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Will the completely stock rooted rom run on ext4? Or is my backup useless unless I convert back to rfs file system?
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That is 2 different questions. One no stock kernel is RFS. Two, restore as I mentioned before, advanced restore data only and you will be fine. You may have to set up your accounts but that is about it.
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I think i need to ask the question differently. Right now, all that I have done since getting her the phone is complete the One-click root 3.1.0.1. I then made a backup. I haven't done anything else or made any changes. If I now flash Syndicate 1.2 frozen but want to return to my backup, are you suggesting I don't need to ODIN back to stock, but simply advance restore in recovery? Sorry for being an idiot about this guys, but like I said, I am an Evo flashaholic and its taking me some getting used to speaking Epic language! Plus, I would hate to flub something up since its my wife's phone!
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I think what I am looking for is step by step what is the shortest easiest way to "undo" a new rom flash and go back to exactly the way it was before. On the Evo, a nandroid backup is gold and does just this, but I am finding that on the Epic this isn't as simple
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I would not start with SRF 1.2. Because you also need to flash a kernel. Start by flashing a ROM that comes with a kernel. If it is for someone else keep it simple like ReRFS ROM. I would not even do EXT4 unless you are sure you have journaling enabled. The first freeze, drop or battery pull will cause Force Closes galore. Unless you are planning on supporting that phone constantly, keep it simple. And yes most times restore works fine without goling back to Odin.
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I think what I am looking for is step by step what is the shortest easiest way to "undo" a new rom flash and go back to exactly the way it was before. On the Evo, a nandroid backup is gold and does just this, but I am finding that on the Epic this isn't as simple
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90% of the time it will restore just fine.
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Yes, I agree, but "if" I flash an ext4 rom/kernel and then try to recover my stock rooted backup from cwm, will it work since stock is rfs?
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legasus233 said:
Yes, I agree, but "if" I flash an ext4 rom/kernel and then try to recover my stock rooted backup from cwm, will it work since stock is rfs?
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Nand doesn't care what the file system is so yes. The issue you may run into is incompatibilties between ROMs and data. So go ahead. I run both nands and Titanium backup just in case of an incompatibility so I can go between froyo and GB.
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Nand doesn't care what the file system is so yes. The issue you may run into is incompatibilties between ROMs and data. So go ahead. I run both nands and Titanium backup just in case of an incompatibility so I can go between froyo and GB.
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The answer is no. Complete stock kernel doesn't support ext4. He would have to flash genocide or twilight kernel.
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ugothakd said:
The answer is no. Complete stock kernel doesn't support ext4. He would have to flash genocide or twilight kernel.
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Doesn't matter if he did an advanced data restore. It does not restore the kernel.
Also I am not sure it restores the kernel on a full nand restore. Did one recently and none of the kernel mods restored. Had to reflash my kernel. I thought 3.1.0.1 was supposed to backup and restore the kernel.
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Doesn't matter if he did an advanced data restore. It does not restore the kernel.
Also I am not sure it restores the kernel on a full nand restore. Did one recently and none of the kernel mods restored. Had to reflash my kernel. I thought 3.1.0.1 was supposed to backup and restore the kernel.
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That doesn't make sense, if it didn't restore kernel, then how can some people nandroid between cm7 and eh17 every so often? And yeah, but I think he was talking about restoring the ROM, not his data. I could be wrong.
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That doesn't make sense, if it didn't restore kernel, then how can some people nandroid between cm7 and eh17 every so often? And yeah, but I think he was talking about restoring the ROM, not his data. I could be wrong.
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I am confused as to what the OP wants then. I thought he wanted to flash a ROM and if he didn't like it restore back.
As for CM7 to EH17 and back, simply flash and advance restore data or use Titanium Backup. I backed up Hurricane after flashing a new kernel and adding some mods. Upon restore later the first thing I noticed was the mods missing. This is with 3.1.0.1 Odin'd in. Had Bonsai recovery which does back up kernel image as well but would not flash other EH17 Roms for some reason.
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I am confused as to what the OP wants then. I thought he wanted to flash a ROM and if he didn't like it restore back.
As for CM7 to EH17 and back, simply flash and advance restore data or use Titanium Backup. I backed up Hurricane after flashing a new kernel and adding some mods. Upon restore later the first thing I noticed was the mods missing. This is with 3.1.0.1 Odin'd in. Had Bonsai recovery which does back up kernel image as well but would not flash other EH17 Roms for some reason.
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I'm confused. The op wanted his phone to be " if for some reason I don't like it, can I simply recover my backup in CWM and go back to stock" which I assume is complete stock, which means the ROM and not his data.
ugothakd said:
I'm confused. The op wanted his phone to be " if for some reason I don't like it, can I simply recover my backup in CWM and go back to stock" which I assume is complete stock, which means the ROM and not his data.
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He further confused me later on but going by the OP, then you are right and the best bet at that point is to Odin a prerooted stock ROM like EC05plus to save a step and then restore everything if he didn't like SRF 1.2 and Genocide.
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Hey guys, I've been running into a ton of issues. Basically, all I want to do is get to the point where I can flash custom ROM's onto my Samsung Epic 4G. I am on Stock Froyo EC05 Rooted and have ClockWorkMod 2.5.1.0! I understand that the best way to go about things is to first update the Clockworkmod to 3.1.x.x but what is an easy way to do this from 2.5.1.0? Do I have to go through the entire root process again just to update clockwork or do I have to remove my root entirely and start from scratch? What's the best way to go about this and how do you do it?
Hope to hear what you guys think.
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Hey guys, I've been running into a ton of issues. Basically, all I want to do is get to the point where I can flash custom ROM's onto my Samsung Epic 4G. I am on Stock Froyo EC05 Rooted and have ClockWorkMod 2.5.1.0! I understand that the best way to go about things is to first update the Clockworkmod to 3.1.x.x but what is an easy way to do this from 2.5.1.0? Do I have to go through the entire root process again just to update clockwork or do I have to remove my root entirely and start from scratch? What's the best way to go about this and how do you do it?
Hope to hear what you guys think.
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Wow your outta date boy. Anyways the newest cwm is 5.0.2.7 I have the acs recovery5 zip so ill upload that for you simply flash the zip and reboot back into cwm and bam there it is. Once that's done your good to go!
http://db.tt/n15N2E9q
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As for custom roms just go into development and pick on that you think you'll like read the included list and pick from that. Id suggest checking out legendary 2.2 as a starting point if you don't like the theme you can always flash one. As for a custom kernel check out the samurai kernel from earthbound. Make sure you get the TW.BML version not mtd.
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Yeah, I've checked out a few Rom's and I know what I'm looking for, I just want that ClockworkMod updated. Also, for custom ROM's, is it better to have the EXT4 filesystem instead of RFS? which clockwork version will automatically covert it to EXT4?
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Yeah, I've checked out a few Rom's and I know what I'm looking for, I just want that ClockworkMod updated. Also, for custom ROM's, is it better to have the EXT4 filesystem instead of RFS? which clockwork version will automatically covert it to EXT4?
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The ROM does the conversion.... and EXT4 is for speed but RFS is more for reliablity not to say the ext4 isn't safe but its not as reliable as RFS. But it safe to use but I know very few people losing data because of undervolting but that was the only thing that caused it. However you need rfs then I can give you the zip to flash and convert it.
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Rfs, because its still considered more stable. Ext4 still has stability issues, although considered faster.
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Find cwm 5 (not the acs version) and then flash it. The you can get mtd roms like cm7.
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Ok. Also, I made a complete backup with Mybackup Pro to my SD card and it works great! However, would it still restore everything If I'm on a different filesystem? I was also wonderung, since I'm on stock froyo, are you sure I can upgrade CWM 2.5.1.0 straight to 5.x.x.x? I heard there might be some issues with that.
Another thing, What ROM do you recommend to be the best. I do want certain features and was looking at the CleanGB and the Legendary ROMS. I basically want one that is fast, barely any bloatware, has the 3d app drawer, and the CRT animation. I also want it to have loopback so I could put Backtrack 5 on my phone just in case I need to use it.
Recovery is independent of the software version. I had cwm 5 on froyo before.
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Ok. Also, I made a complete backup with Mybackup Pro to my SD card and it works great! However, would it still restore everything If I'm on a different filesystem? I was also wonderung, since I'm on stock froyo, are you sure I can upgrade CWM 2.5.1.0 straight to 5.x.x.x? I heard there might be some issues with that.
Another thing, What ROM do you recommend to be the best. I do want certain features and was looking at the CleanGB and the Legendary ROMS. I basically want one that is fast, barely any bloatware, has the 3d app drawer, and the CRT animation. I also want it to have loopback so I could put Backtrack 5 on my phone just in case I need to use it.
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Legendary is faster cleangb is stock really and is on rfs..... and ur fine just flashing my upload... as for the apps don't use that for your apps bringing over apps from different roms escpecially froyo to gb is dangerous and I recomend you just download the apps again from the market. Or you can nandroid and advanced restore the data....
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I did check out the thread on the newest ClockWorkMod 5 but it said that you should have 3.1.x.x, will this work with 2.5.1.0 to 5.x.x.x?
Update: I successfully flashed CWM 2.5.1.0 to 5.0.2.7! Now when I flash a new ROM, is there only one Zip file to flash or do I need to flash a ROM and a new Kernel/Modem?
Not the slightest clue but I have the 3.1 purple zip you can flash if you do need to do that.
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Just flash a rom.
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Cwm 5 is runs on rfs ,and froyo stock is rfs system based, so u really should haven't anything to worry about. The only time u start running into big problems is when u convert to ext4 and especially mtd.
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I did check out the thread on the newest ClockWorkMod 5 but it said that you should have 3.1.x.x, will this work with 2.5.1.0 to 5.x.x.x?
Update: I successfully flashed CWM 2.5.1.0 to 5.0.2.7! Now when I flash a new ROM, is there only one Zip file to flash or do I need to flash a ROM and a new Kernel/Modem?
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If you want a better kernel then yes go ahead and look at the samurai or shadowkernel..... also as fo the modem ill give you the flashable to update ur modem to ei22
http://db.tt/9icy8xnd
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Gooch, when ur checking out about the rom, the developers will usually tell u if it is both the rom and kernel or just the rom. Just pay close attention to the updated changelogs as well.
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Cwm 5 is runs on rfs ,and froyo stock is rfs system based, so u really should haven't anything to worry about. The only time u start running into big problems is when u convert to ext4 and especially mtd.
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Wrong filesystems have nothing to do with cwm...... that's part of the rom....
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androidmaster1 said:
Cwm 5 is runs on rfs ,and froyo stock is rfs system based, so u really should haven't anything to worry about. The only time u start running into big problems is when u convert to ext4 and especially mtd.
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Totally wrong on both parts.
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Ok guys, I got it working! I put on Legendary ROM 2.2 and it's awesome! My data backup worked perfect and things run way smoother. Thanks for all your help, you guys definitely put me on the right track.
Use cwm not acs... acs is great but we have an officialy supported cwm for a reason. I strongly recommend you use our official cwm 5.0.2.7 and not acs
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Running stock 2.3.6, T-Mobile, T989. Rooted via ODIN, CWM installed. Wasn't paying any damn attention and flashed a battery theme. Now my status bar FCs at startup.
Is there any way to recover from this, or would I be better off unrooting/returning to full stock and then rerooting, reinstalling, etc?
There may be a better answer, but I would just flash a new rom. There's so keep roms available if that's what you want
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well, if you made one do a nandroid backup. should work if im not mistaking
Anyone feel free to correct me if I am wrong
Now, see, if I'd been thinking I'd've made a Nandroid before flashing. You know, like mentally stable people do. Unfortunately, thinking wasn't on the menu.
I flashed Zedomax's 2.3.5 and will do an ODIN -> Stock 2.3.6 -> root again once I touch my Windows PC again tonight.
Learn from my failure! Nandroid now, nandroid tomorrow, nandroid forever.
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Now, see, if I'd been thinking I'd've made a Nandroid before flashing. You know, like mentally stable people do. Unfortunately, thinking wasn't on the menu.
I flashed Zedomax's 2.3.5 and will do an ODIN -> Stock 2.3.6 -> root again once I touch my Windows PC again tonight.
Learn from my failure! Nandroid now, nandroid tomorrow, nandroid forever.
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What???
You don't have to root again once rooted already.
Just flash a stock rom from the T989 dev section. Do a nandroid backup.
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You can just flash a theme that's made for your ROM... I had this happen to me when I was trying to make my own theme and had bootloops with everything force closing in me so I instead just flashed a working theme to fix it.
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What I ended up doing was using ODIN to return to completely stock, then rerooting and removing CIQ by hand. I'm at the point where I'm not interested in flashing anything save the eventual CM9.