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Almost everyone I see on here has some sort of a problem with their phone. White screen, wifi not working, menus not showing up and god knows what else. Is there any ROM/upgrade/software that will make this phone stable?
mine runs perfectly fine, if you are unhappy with the current wm6 selections you can always fall back on the original cingular wm5 rom...
The very nature of the 8525, and the people on this forum, is FOR FUN!
The phone is highly cusomizable, and therein lies the instability.
Stick with stock and it will run fine!
only thing that really bothers me on custel rom is the IE getting stuck and not loading any pages. Requiring soft reset other then that so far so good!
reading threads and all the issues people have im wondering what they do to make it happen.
Ive had my phone for 6 months, flashed lots of different ROMS including WM5 and WM6 and i havent had any issues that i cant fix.
Software is wrote by humans so the quick and easy answer is .. no. There will never be a stable software that will work 100% on 100% of the phones. If you use Windows then your an unpaid beta tester for Microsoft. Think of this forum as a Microsoft forum for collecting all the issues and fixes for this software as a collaboration of every forum member. Just replace the Microsoft with HTC and that is more like it.
Stable and bug-free software? You are implying that people do their job and also test software? LOL, you should be a comedian. Look how well RIM tested their software last week (took down much of the Blackberry network).
that being said, what kinds of software are you looking for? Music/Video players? Text messaging apps? Office apps? Games?
I'm shocked at a question like this from someone with 6 whole posts. Ok, lesson in sarcasm over.
Look, you read a little and saw that with every new ROM there are problems. Read a little more and you usually find the fix to that very problem. If you yourself run into a problem, then you post and state what kinda problem you're having with what, then everyone else can help you. *sigh* This forum isn't a place where somethings released and all the angels and cherubs sing with praise. You have to have the patience and drive to know you're gonna run into problems from the get-go, but decide to stick around and work through them. Good luck in your quest to find the holy grail of apps though.
well it's just that id much rather be doing smething else than fixing my phone all day long. I'm not trying to offend anyone by the way, simply frustrated at fixin one thing and having another go wrong. Im gonna keep flashing untill it works rigth and if not, Im gonna giveup and go with stock since I'm not all that knowledgeable about this anyway
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well it's just that id much rather be doing smething else than fixing my phone all day long. I'm not trying to offend anyone by the way, simply frustrated at fixin one thing and having another go wrong. Im gonna keep flashing untill it works rigth and if not, Im gonna giveup and go with stock since I'm not all that knowledgeable about this anyway
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Re-flashing a new ROM wont fix anything. Have you read anything here? It's not offensive, and you're not offending anyone, but the whole process of flashing a ROM and seeing what works and what doesn't is what happens when you decide to do this. Each person here that's flashed a new ROM has thier own preferences as to what they want installed with it. Some apps are buggy, some aren't. If two people with identical phones flash identical new ROM's, they still might have totally different problems stemming from issues caused by what radio version they decided to try, what apps they installed or didn't install, whether they found the CAB that fixes a known problem or not. When I flashed my 8525 I went with Black 1.2 and still use it. Why? It's fast as hell, and over the weeks following the initial flash I found all the fixes to any problems I had incurred. Now my phone is sweet...to me. I'm happy. It wasn't a one day fix-all. Takes time to get it as near perfect as possible. Still freezes when I wanna run WAD on it, but oh well. It's something I know will happen when I use it. No biggie.
You need to be patient, and if you can't then this place isn't for you. You might be happier with the stock ROM that comes with your phone. It'll be less of a headache for yourself. Good luck in whatever you decide. I hope you decide to read more and work through the bugs. IMO I think you'll be happier in the end.
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well it's just that id much rather be doing smething else than fixing my phone all day long. I'm not trying to offend anyone by the way, simply frustrated at fixin one thing and having another go wrong. Im gonna keep flashing untill it works rigth and if not, Im gonna giveup and go with stock since I'm not all that knowledgeable about this anyway
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If you wish to have the most stable device possible your probably best off to download the latest Cingular ROM (which is WM5), ALL the WM6 roms here are developed by the community (obviously the chefs do the real hard work but the feedback from us users helps develop them) and such are improving ALL the time. Firstly since you are not up to date with your version of Black, upgrade to the latest one...also make sure you upgrade the SPL,IPL and Radio...these can contribute to stability.
How to upgrade to Black 2.5, IPL 1.04, SPL 2.10.olipro, Radio 1.41.00.10.
IF you are still not convinced then I would downgrade to WM5.
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well it's just that id much rather be doing smething else than fixing my phone all day long.
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isn't this the whole point of this forum and the wikis??
i'm not experienced as those other guys, but i'm pretty sure i've learned enough in the last 2 months to not have to sit here all day debugging, the only reason i spend 2 hours is b/c there's always better roms coming out and then u gotta customize your phone again...
Finally Usable
Have you even tried ANY WM6 ROM from this forum in comparison to the original WM5 Cingular 8525 ROM? My 8525 was nearly unusable. It locked up constantly. It had the sleep of death constantly. It was horrible! I decided to flash it with a WM6 ROM for the hell of it, and suddenly it was a useful device again. I have tried several ROMs on this forum, and all were better than the original, and all required some tweaking to work how I like it. The current big three, Black 2.5, LVSW, and CUSTEL, are all infinitely more usable out of the gate than that POS WM5 version ever was. If you want a trouble free phone, get a plain jane phone that does nothing but make phone calls. If you want a useable Hermes device, flash it with any one of these ROMS.
okay
I installed windows xp back on my pc which made things a little easier. I think my phones finaly working in order without any suprises.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1861878&postcount=76 promised to be out this weekend for the Kaiser
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=363050 theres the thread
whos gonna make us a Sprint touch 6.1 ROM!!!
I have a feeling that some of the communities best folks are working hard on this acheivement. I'm guessing that we will see 6.1 on the Hermes first because the likeness of the phone in Asia that has 6.1.
I would love to see WM6.1 ported for the touch.
well someone in the Kaiser forum supposedly will have it for them by the end of the week so....im sure its fully possible for the touch too. Im sure hes using the same ROM thats floating around.
could you imagine? rip the gps/rev A off the mogul ROM and 6.1 all into one super ROM. The perfect phone i think
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well someone in the Kaiser forum supposedly will have it for them by the end of the week so....im sure its fully possible for the touch too. Im sure hes using the same ROM thats floating around.
could you imagine? rip the gps/rev A off the mogul ROM and 6.1 all into one super ROM. The perfect phone i think
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It certainly sounds like a "Super ROM" but then again you have to take into consideration that building, testing, and perfecting something like this is going to take time. If this is actually done, the initial release is going to have bugs like a cockroach infested house.
i would be happy with just a cab of the threaded sms...i hope it works with the touch keypad
i would love to try it
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i would be happy with just a cab of the threaded sms...i hope it works with the touch keypad
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I have the cab files for the palm threaded sms on my laptop at home and can upload that i have a feeling you already have it.
yes i have it. thank you...just the same problem with the keypad covering the words. i dont like the spb full keyboard option either. but if the 6.1 is set up like the native sms and the keyboard doesnt block what i am typing that would be perfect.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=363578
screenshots of 6.1 running threaded looks like the palm one but keyboard doesnt cover. Definitely time to get this ported every other device is starting to get it now
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=363578
screenshots of 6.1 running threaded looks like the palm one but keyboard doesnt cover. Definitely time to get this ported every other device is starting to get it now
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yes, lol, everyone has the palm threaded sms app, but for the touch devices this is not an option. we really need this 6.1. this alows threaded sms without the keyboard covering up the app problem. palm threaded sms has got to go bye bye. we need 6.1 forsure.
i can't wait
I have the OS but I need help isn trying to get this on our phone, if someone can help that would be great
you cannot just grab the kaiser release and make it for vogue
There are many methods people use to protect rom releases from being used in cooking. delete dsm files, delete rgu files, screw up packages.sof, etc. You can be sure that the upcoming WM6.1 releases will not nicely reconstruct for others to modify. The lucky few with a 6.1 source at this time have to protect it.
I personally will not sift thru this and that wm6.1 rom and fight to reconstruct a base. I intend to use WM6.1 on the vogue and titan, but not until I obtain it from an officially released carrier rom.
I see DCD1182.......so when are they talking about sending it out then?
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yes, lol, everyone has the palm threaded sms app, but for the touch devices this is not an option. we really need this 6.1. this alows threaded sms without the keyboard covering up the app problem. palm threaded sms has got to go bye bye. we need 6.1 forsure.
i can't wait
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i definetly agree
wow this kinda sucks Kaiser has 6.1 GSM Touch (by cloudya) now has 6.1 too per their forum section. Having CDMA sucks sometimes big time.
BTW 6.1 isnt even supposed to be unveiled until FEb 11th and not shipping out till MAY reportedly so youre talking a few month wait (up to 5 months) if no one takes the dive to put something together. Idk why every other forum here seems to have someone who got a non-timebombed version working for their respective device. Hopefully someone else will jump in and take care of this and maybe these other cookers will be willing to help with files even
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wow this kinda sucks Kaiser has 6.1 GSM Touch (by cloudya) now has 6.1 too per their forum section. Having CDMA sucks sometimes big time.
BTW 6.1 isnt even supposed to be unveiled until FEb 11th and not shipping out till MAY reportedly so youre talking a few month wait (up to 5 months) if no one takes the dive to put something together. Idk why every other forum here seems to have someone who got a non-timebombed version working for their respective device. Hopefully someone else will jump in and take care of this and maybe these other cookers will be willing to help with files even
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I think it's several factors that are why we will see it later, if not much later.
I think the biggest factor is that we are... CDMA. With a much more limited user base, it is just harder to get all the coders for it. Still though, we have many good coders, we just have to wait for one that really wants 6.1 before they will begin work on it.
Secondly, I think if it's being worked on, it's probably not on this site, probably on PPCGeeks (which is down unfortunatly). As that is a much bigger CDMA focused community, and once someone ports 6.1 for any of the CDMA devices, then I am sure someone will port it for the others... Then again I'm not sure if it even matters that it's GSM vs CDMA, is there any internal code that is specific to either?
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I think it's several factors that are why we will see it later, if not much later.
I think the biggest factor is that we are... CDMA. With a much more limited user base, it is just harder to get all the coders for it. Still though, we have many good coders, we just have to wait for one that really wants 6.1 before they will begin work on it.
Secondly, I think if it's being worked on, it's probably not on this site, probably on PPCGeeks (which is down unfortunatly). As that is a much bigger CDMA focused community, and once someone ports 6.1 for any of the CDMA devices, then I am sure someone will port it for the others... Then again I'm not sure if it even matters that it's GSM vs CDMA, is there any internal code that is specific to either?
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I'm pretty sure there is much more to it than you might think. Being CDMA, there very different radios in our devices and the bootloaders are all different from my understanding. It would take quite a bit more work to get this working on a CDMA device than some people are really willing to do unfortunately...
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I'm pretty sure there is much more to it than you might think. Being CDMA, there very different radios in our devices and the bootloaders are all different from my understanding. It would take quite a bit more work to get this working on a CDMA device than some people are really willing to do unfortunately...
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But Radios & Bootloaders are not in OS (only) Rom Updates (which I thought is what we were talking about?).
it ports really easy, i was talking about waiting for a source for final code. but yes the beta posted can be ported to a cdma device just as easy as gsm.
DCD,
can we try????? lets give us something since the Titan has just gotten a new rom, i would like to do this on my touch is there any instructions on how
Hey guys
Was just wondering if it was possible to find a Touch Flo ROM for a TyTN?
Saw the new Touch last night, think the interface is very interesting, would like to try it out
Thanks alot for any replies!!!
randomguy321 said:
Hey guys
Was just wondering if it was possible to find a Touch Flo ROM for a TyTN?
Saw the new Touch last night, think the interface is very interesting, would like to try it out
Thanks alot for any replies!!!
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If you had searched you would have found ...... this quite accessible ... the only ROM that comes with one is .... this ...
But I think you need to do a fair bit more reading and searching before you go ahead and flashing stuff if you think touchflo is a ROM
Hehehe, thanks alot Zocster...Believe it or not, i did actually search and ive been reading alot of posts! Im not 1 of those forum idiots who randomly posts messages without reading anything...
However, i am TOTALLY new to this world! I decided to ditch the trusty old cell phone and move to a pocket pc/pda phone whatever you wanna call it I have decided on a TyTN and am now getting into the world of cooked ROMs and all the stuff you guys know all about
Im learning!!!
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Hehehe, thanks alot Zocster...Believe it or not, i did actually search and ive been reading alot of posts! Im not 1 of those forum idiots who randomly posts messages without reading anything...
However, i am TOTALLY new to this world! I decided to ditch the trusty old cell phone and move to a pocket pc/pda phone whatever you wanna call it I have decided on a TyTN and am now getting into the world of cooked ROMs and all the stuff you guys know all about
Im learning!!!
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Awesome, is it definitely an HTC Tytn then? not any other variants? just curious
No no, plain old HTC TyTN im from South Africa, so thats our variant out here
randomguy321 said:
No no, plain old HTC TyTN im from South Africa, so thats our variant out here
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I seeI have an imate jasjam, so yeah you have a front camera I presume you would want to make video calls too then, so may be that ROM i mentioned not for you as it doesn't have video calling dial pad cooked in.
To be brutally honest, Ive had a Sony Ericsson K800i for a year and a half now and have NEVER used the video calling feature Our networks are rather unstable and its expensive, so why bother Im just looking for a fast, reliable ROM
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To be brutally honest, Ive had a Sony Ericsson K800i for a year and a half now and have NEVER used the video calling feature Our networks are rather unstable and its expensive, so why bother Im just looking for a fast, reliable ROM
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Let me see then ... you have ten or so ROMs to try out took me two months to go through about 30 from pays, tnt, binky11s, now crc and pdacorner as my favs. You need to know what works for you, make sure you read the wiki, you don't want to kill your new toy ey ...
Welcome by the way .. saw it was your second post oh by the way, go the wallabies, even though i live in new zealand! hehe .. and this is for the trinations!
Much obliged Zocster!!!
Thanks alot for your help...I know that forum noobs are often ignored or flamed lol!!!
The problem i have is being a complete newcomer to this stuff...I honestly dont know where to start, I was hoping there would be a poll with "your favorite ROM" or something, then at least id have somewhere to start
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Much obliged Zocster!!!
Thanks alot for your help...I know that forum noobs are often ignored or flamed lol!!!
The problem i have is being a complete newcomer to this stuff...I honestly dont know where to start, I was hoping there would be a poll with "your favorite ROM" or something, then at least id have somewhere to start
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Sorry mate, honestly, ... trying it yourself is the only way you can judge, read the wiki, and try out different roms, as i said what is good for me may not be good for you. So go try them all out and make up your mind from experience. I have had my phone for two months and I have been through honestly about 20 or so roms before i made up my mind, each chefs have got their own style and yeah you need to determine what style suits you.
Thanks alot, will definitely do so
One more question...In my research on the P4350 which uses the 200mhz OMAP cpu, i read that there is an app to overclock (and declock) the device, does the TyTN have a similar app??
randomguy321 said:
Thanks alot, will definitely do so
One more question...In my research on the P4350 which uses the 200mhz OMAP cpu, i read that there is an app to overclock (and declock) the device, does the TyTN have a similar app??
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If you want to keep your device for another couple of years, then no, it is not recommended. it is doable, but it would not be doing your device any favour.
Well since the reviews i read all said the TyTN is powerful enough, im actually more interested in declocking the device when i dont need the power, to save battery life
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Well since the reviews i read all said the TyTN is powerful enough, im actually more interested in declocking the device when i dont need the power, to save battery life
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hmm, you need to try the roms available, and once you get applications such as BT GPS, BT Stereo, MP3 etc going, plus the touchflo extension you mentioned, it ain't all that powerful.
These chefs have done their best to make the most out of a device that is 2 years old. so ... yeah it isn't that powerful, but yes you will determine that when you have run a couple of things on the hermes have fun, ...
Starbase has the cab on his 4shared site. I have had it before, but find it useless, the touchflo that schaps has is better for finger scrolling and quick landscape mode switches however.
Good to see more South Africans here. (From South Africa myself). As Zocster said, just try the roms out. Been flashing my TyTN at least once a week. Just remember to Hard-SPL first.
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Just remember to Hard-SPL first.
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Glad someone remembered.....
lol thanks guys!!!
Been reading the guides and the wikis, will definitely hardSPL first
first of all make hardspl ! it is the first thing you need to flash into your tytn....what you meen about -toch flo- ? many component may be instaled on any rom. personaly I use 3ppc.net russian 6.1 rom, whith htc home today plugin (one part of tochflo) included. for finger scroling I use ftochFlo, cube not use at all - personaly I found it useless....(anyway - there are some custom cube on 'hacking and developing' section of developers, as for me it much better than original.)
about overclock. sumsung procesors (which use tytn) is wery bad in frequency control. looks like time generator somehow connected whith main frequency - when you changing it, a lot of bugs appear....for example - if you overclocked cpu, you will notice that music/video/e.t.c. will run more fast that it needed. no need to worry about cpu power consumtion - it low anyway for samsung cpu. much more buttary will eat 3g, wifi, backlight e.t.c.
To all Moderators, Programmers and the Experts of WinMo, why there's are still much problems from the others members that cannot be done or resolve from their threads in each section of forum, including mine?
I suggest to all of you, please help them and me!
firstly of all your link doesn't show your problem
secondly and most importantly: this is not a way to achieve anything except looking like a fool to other members.
everyone has problems,but people mostly search,ask in specific threads and wait for the response,or even come up with own solutions.
you can't come here and say hey solve my problem, it just isn't alright and it seems very selfish.
imagine everyone doing what you did here...the forum would be closed just like this thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=578575 ...read last few posts and it will be clear to you
isn't it sad, how human foolishness and selfishness can ruin other people's hope and efforts.
and do you really think that someone who had or has a solution for your problem wouldn't tell it to you in first place
Thanks a lots and i'm really sorry Bro, i just need a help cause i can't do it without'em ...
provide us a link...i'll help if i can
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provide us a link...i'll help if i can
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Bro, you can see it all the threads started by me that still not resolve yet...
And thanks before
wm 2003 had an option to backup everything...and that option went away with newer generations of wms,coming with newer devices because of the differences in chips and chipsets...
in wm 2002/03 you could loose all your data if your phone was long without battery,it isn't the case with newer devices,so you don't need a backup like that one
i believe you need something like "PIMbackup" which is the best backup app ever IMO,it can backup and restore contacts,messages,apointments,to do,tasks and any folder you choose...and it is free
as far as wm5/6/6.1/6.5 go...i had...i mean i still have an htc magician which also had 2003se,but the hardware just wasn't able to handle newer os ...or at least there wasn't much interest because the device was getting very old...as one guy said to you some time ago...some devices did receive updates ie himalaya...but mostly thanks to dedicated devs and it's hardware....i still have a himalaya which is working...although battery is pretty worn out
so you should stop expecting to successfully cook a rom for you HPs unless you are some kind of programing/win ce guru...
any other questions?
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wm 2003 had an option to backup everything...and that option went away with newer generations of wms,coming with newer devices because of the differences in chips and chipsets...
in wm 2002/03 you could loose all your data if your phone was long without battery,it isn't the case with newer devices,so you don't need a backup like that one
i believe you need something like "PIMbackup" which is the best backup app ever IMO,it can backup and restore contacts,messages,apointments,to do,tasks and any folder you choose...and it is free
as far as wm5/6/6.1/6.5 go...i had...i mean i still have an htc magician which also had 2003se,but the hardware just wasn't able to handle newer os ...or at least there wasn't much interest because the device was getting very old...as one guy said to you some time ago...some devices did receive updates ie himalaya...but mostly thanks to dedicated devs and it's hardware....i still have a himalaya which is working...although battery is pretty worn out
so you should stop expecting to successfully cook a rom for you HPs unless you are some kind of programing/win ce guru...
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Nothing more question Bro, even i'm already have Atom and Prophet but i'm still hope or expecting for only just WM2003SE for my hp iPAQ h6365 (that still original WM2003) from XDA-Dev Programmers or WinCE Guru's if it still possible cause in my opinion that HTC Magician has succesfully jump to WM6.1 and WM6.5 by Russian ROM Cookers, so how come there's no one ROM Cookers would upgrade hp iPAQ h6365 to just WM2003SE or to WM5?
I need the last big help from you, please ask to Moderators to close this thread if it necessary cause i guess this is no longer usefull anymore ...
And thanks a lot's before!
not true,magician only got a skin that looks just like wm 5/6 but it still is 2003
So guys, my my new manager decided to buy an HTC Hero CDMA along with Sprint service for me, so I'm (with some degree of enthusiasm) retiring my trusty Tilt.
It's been a long road, filled with many nights of expletives and battery pulls, but things were starting to get really good. A major shout-out to Myrn for his Warm Doughnut rom, that was probably the one rom that I really felt was fully functional and didn't require battery pulls.
Anyway, I digress. I want to know who you guys think would benefit most from a donation of this tilt. My first impulse is to offer it to dzo as non of this would have been possible without his incredible work getting drivers and nand flash support working on the Kaiser. I also am thinking of myrn since I don't think he actually has a Tilt.
So, please give me your suggestions, and I'll decide next week.
Honestly? My vote would go to Polyrhythmic for the Polymod series, or Myn for Warm Donut, but really any of the various android devs deserve it, and I'm sure would be able to use it to improve what we already have
Actually I'd vote for Polyrhythmic too.. If I remember correctly his Kaiser wouldnt boot linux anymore, that's why he left Kaiser ANdroid dev scene. Maybe he'd stage a comeback with a "new" phone =)
As far as I know DZO already has a kaiser ...
My kaiser died after trying to flash a new radio ROM, so if have more than one left... Going back to my old Nokia 3410 is quite a big step backwards
Personally I'd give it to myn too. I really like it's ROM's and he does a great job
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As far as I know DZO already has a kaiser ...
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I mainly wanted to give it to him as a thanks for all his work, but you guys make a good point, it would make more sense to give it to someone who needs it.