Is this possible? I know most unroot the phone to take it in for service/exchange etc but my situation is different. I have to use Good for Enterprise to access my company's email and as you may know, Good does not allow rooted phones. So, I have no choice but to unroot my Evo.
The image that is used in unrooting is a stock ROM. What I want to do is setup my phone - the way I want it with Mikfroyo - with all the tweaks etc and then "just do the unrooting part". If that makes any sense - I don't need any superuser permissions etc.
Long story short - can a phone be unrooted with a custom ROM instead of a stock ROM?
im pretty sure this is impossible dude, sorry, just leave it all rooted, whats the problem
I know you can't unroot and keep a custom ROM but I wonder if there is a way to hide the fact that you're rooted from the app. What kind of message pops up when you install it?
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It just says that Good cannot run on a rooted phone and just locks the app - I have to call IT to get an unlock code using the device ID that is displayed in Good's pop-up message.
It has to be checking for something specific and I bet there is a way to fudge it but unfortunately that's outside my realm of understanding. I would ask one of the devs here about it.
What permissions does the App request when you install? It could just check for SuperUser
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What permissions does the App request when you install? If could just check for SuperUser
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I which case you could either delete superuser or use it to block the app... perhaps?
I am sure its more complicated than that - if they are touting themselves as a replacement for blackberry security for iPhones and Android - I seriously doubt a simple fudging of the superuser permissions will deceive it. Also, I'd like to comply with my company's requirements for using an Android phone so I don't get into trouble.
So from what I understand - you cannot have a custom ROM on an unrooted phone. Thanks so much guys - I'll just have to learn to live with the bloated stockware and manual restores arghh......
It's not possible.... to unroot, you'd have to RUU, which returns the phone back to stock. And then, you'd have no way of flashing a custom rom unless you rooted again
ok this is one thing that I am starting to not understand here...
so many people when they answer - say "yes" it can be done or "no" it can not be done...
...ummm where is the why? It would be very informative to know such things or if someone has even tried said thing before.
like why can't you just run a ROM or other flash file from renaming the file and letting the stock loader do the flashing? ......answer: because the stock loader does a file signature check - see? that makes sense and answers the why. it also helps users to retain the information as well as understand it.
I would love to know why the OP can't just run the unrevoked s-on tool from here http://unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/forever#custom_splash (in the FAQ section) without removing his custom ROM and just make sure he doesn't use any apps that need the su access. sounds like it should work? has someone done this and found that it does not work? flashing back to s-on should just prevent flashing to any other ROM's I would think from everything I have read in this forum.
or once s-on is back does it also check the current ROM on the phone and would cause some issues? would be great information to know. because if the security only checks file signatures of flies to be flashed and not the current ROM it seems like the OP could do what he is wanting to.
well, just thought I would ask to see if I could gain some more understanding as to the mechanics of everything
It would be good to know if this works with Good for Enterprise. I am stuck on an SGS 2.1 with Telstra and want a non stock ROM but really need to use Good.
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Is this possible? I know most unroot the phone to take it in for service/exchange etc but my situation is different. I have to use Good for Enterprise to access my company's email and as you may know, Good does not allow rooted phones. So, I have no choice but to unroot my Evo.
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I did not know that, and that SUCKS. My company's piloting Good now, and I was really looking forward to it. This just infuriates me. Mobile device makers are getting away with things that desktop/laptop makers never dreamed of trying. We shouldn't even NEED to "root" a phone. Imagine if you needed to hack your Windows machine in order to get the admin password and be able to install whatever you want. Now yes, I get that companies often do add those restrictions on their devices, and that they need to protect their data. Allowing access to company data on a personal device might make it a little more of a gray area, but it still blows. Good should be able to develop a system that can be secure, even if you have root access.
Here's a thread I just found. It sounds like you can just delete su and the superuser.apk. I think you can keep the custom rom, but you probably wouldn't be able to run anything that needs root, like Wireless Tether, Titanium Backup, or whatever. But you could probably have a flashable zip to re-add them when you need them. Or maybe one of the temp root methods would work. But it makes me furious that this is needed.
http://androidforums.com/droid-x-all-things-root/207397-good-enterprise.html
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I did not know that, and that SUCKS. My company's piloting Good now, and I was really looking forward to it. This just infuriates me. Mobile device makers are getting away with things that desktop/laptop makers never dreamed of trying. We shouldn't even NEED to "root" a phone. Imagine if you needed to hack your Windows machine in order to get the admin password and be able to install whatever you want. Now yes, I get that companies often do add those restrictions on their devices, and that they need to protect their data. Allowing access to company data on a personal device might make it a little more of a gray area, but it still blows. Good should be able to develop a system that can be secure, even if you have root access.
Here's a thread I just found. It sounds like you can just delete su and the superuser.apk. I think you can keep the custom rom, but you probably wouldn't be able to run anything that needs root, like Wireless Tether, Titanium Backup, or whatever. But you could probably have a flashable zip to re-add them when you need them. Or maybe one of the temp root methods would work. But it makes me furious that this is needed.
http://androidforums.com/droid-x-all-things-root/207397-good-enterprise.html
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My thoughts exactly
Update- I was able to get Good running finally on a custom rom - However, I had to forgo my superuser capabilities. I just renamed both the Su and Superuser.apk and then was able to run Good without any issues. I can easily restore Superuser access by adb when I need to. The good thing is that with the recovery being there, I can still flash updates without needing superuser access.
Thank you all for your help.
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Update- I was able to get Good running finally on a custom rom - However, I had to forgo my superuser capabilities. I just renamed both the Su and Superuser.apk and then was able to run Good without any issues. I can easily restore Superuser access by adb when I need to. The good thing is that with the recovery being there, I can still flash updates without needing superuser access.
Thank you all for your help.
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Thanks for the information. What is the ROM that you are using?
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Or maybe one of the temp root methods would work.
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are there still temp root methods that work on the EVO?
I am using Mikfroyo 4.5.
Just came across this thread and was seeing if your GFE was still working? I have a DX and put a custom ROM and could not get it to work. I'm waiting for my new PIN and have removed SU to see if it works.
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Update- I was able to get Good running finally on a custom rom - However, I had to forgo my superuser capabilities. I just renamed both the Su and Superuser.apk and then was able to run Good without any issues. I can easily restore Superuser access by adb when I need to. The good thing is that with the recovery being there, I can still flash updates without needing superuser access.
Thank you all for your help.
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I rooted my HTC Salsa to install apps2sd which is great, but what commands do i have to run and where to be able to rename su.apk ?
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Mike
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Hello guys, seem like I will be moving to this part of xda in a couple of weeks
I have several questions though, mostly regarding roms and rooting. I have used linux for sometime and from what I understand su/sudo/gksu/gksudo etc. are not available in android? I mean I cannot gain root access in the same way as on the desktop. And if I root the device it will not lose warranty, as I can unroot it later on similar to SPL/HardSPL in winmo. The other question is, I think I am going to be OK with the stock rom, as the desire is some pretty fast hardware, so can I root it without installing rooted rom, again as HardSPL in winmo. I will probably need the root access for some applications, like task manager, otherwise I will probably only use the phone, browser, mp3, social stuff, gps, email, videos like I did in the past.
I am sorry if these questions were asked before, I read the tutorials in the first post, however things are still not quite clear for me
You don't have to install a custom ROM if you use unrevoked for root, it just adds the superuser app to your current ROM. However it will flash the recovery, so it voids your warranty anyway. There is no way to avoid this.
No idea about su/sudo though, I know nothing about linux
Well,I kinda have the same questions...First off,there is the su command in Android which is equal to the sudo command in Ubuntu etc.To give an example,I was trying out the ezHero rom on my Hero the other day and jit was enabled with this process:in terminal emulator you type in su,and then it asks for superuser permissions(probably only available through root?) and then you type jit-on and some other things happen that don't really matter here.I believe I answered half your question.Now,if root can be achieved through terminal...I don't think so!It's above my head though...
Thanks guys, that cleared up a lot
About this recovery, I guess if I can unroot and flash "stock recovery" if there is such a thing, it will not be a problem, is this the case? If I can't maybe I should buy a used device instead of a new one.
About the su/sudo, I have used mostly Ubuntu, and in the users menu I usually had 2 users - admin and root, once I set up a root password. Then I used the admin user and if I needed root access for something I did it with su or sudo + <command>, requiring password, or if it was software launcher requiring root access with a path gksudo + <regular parameters/command> in the launcher properties. For example, as far as I know you cannot change attributes like readable/writeable or edit files which are not personally belonging to your user without root access . It is a really neat and simple feature on the desktop and I am puzzled as to why they removed it from the stock rom. I didn't include this in the original post so that it is not too confusing.
Anyway thanks guys, having been with winmo for the last few years, I will finally give android a go and see if it works for me
Yeah it is relatively easy to flash to complete stock ROM and recovery. There's a guide somewhere in the developer board.
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You don't have to install a custom ROM if you use unrevoked for root, it just adds the superuser app to your current ROM. However it will flash the recovery, so it voids your warranty anyway. There is no way to avoid this.
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No. Just no.
There's nothing in the warranty agreement to suggest that (there is a line that confirms that in the N1 agreement, though), and countless people have sent their rooted Desires back to HTC for repairs, and they've all been repaired. They just won't repair it if the ROM you flashed broke some hardware (ie overheated the LED and made it short-circuit).
Thanks guys, then I'll get a new device, great
So I've been researching some different root methods, but I haven't really been able to find a specific thread based on what I'm looking for.
I'm looking for Wireless Tether usage a couple of times a month (e.g. when I'm traveling or something like that). This is ALL I want root for. I don't want a custom ROM or anything else.
What is the best root method if all I want is Wireless Tether to work? I don't even care if I have to "re-enable" it from the phone after a boot (e.g. a soft root). I'm trying to stay as close to stock as I can.
Please don't post about loading up a new ROM, I don't want that. I just want a clean, easy root to get wireless tether.
Thanks to everyone for your suggestions and assistance!
If Unrevoked 3.21 works for you, that would be the simplest option. It's not the least intrusive, but it doesn't require you to re-run it each time you start up your phone.
It doesn't require you to flash a custom ROM.
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If Unrevoked 3.21 works for you, that would be the simplest option. It's not the least intrusive, but it doesn't require you to re-run it each time you start up your phone.
It doesn't require you to flash a custom ROM.
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Thanks Noxious,
Could you elaborate on the method that is the least intrusive, even if I have to re-run it everytime I startup my phone? I'm assuming I have to re-run it from the phone and not the computer? I'm ok with that - and would actually prefer it if it's the least intrusive.
Also, how much will Unrevoked 3 change my device? Does it automatically load up a new recovery and all that?
I would also like to root for the same thing. How stable is wireless tether. I want to root just to use the wireless tether feature. I have read other forum posts stating it cuts in and out.
Basically I dont want to root if the wireless tether feature is kinda ify.
Can't you simply root and leave the stock ROM with Sense and all, and install Wireless Tether, SetCPU, and whatever else you'd want? Or do you need to have a ROM that someone's already made with all those things added to it?
Personally I'm holding off on Rooting until this 2.3/3.0 update.
actually in my opinion the unrevoked3 method is th easiest. the hardest part about that method is the driver installation. you do need to make sure you have all drivers installed and htc sync installed and then removed before you begin. If not it will hang during the rot process. unrevoked method of rooting actually changes nothing visually except for adding the superuser app(this is an easy indicator of being rooted). and the free wireless tether app from google is pretty much hands down the best. it is the one that most people include in their custom roms here is the apk for the wireless tether.
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actually in my opinion the unrevoked3 method is th easiest. the hardest part about that method is the driver installation. you do need to make sure you have all drivers installed and htc sync installed and then removed before you begin. If not it will hang during the rot process. unrevoked method of rooting actually changes nothing visually except for adding the superuser app(this is an easy indicator of being rooted). and the free wireless tether app from google is pretty much hands down the best. it is the one that most people include in their custom roms here is the apk for the wireless tether.
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Thanks caguirr4. Does Unrevoked actually install a new custom recovery?
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Thanks caguirr4. Does Unrevoked actually install a new custom recovery?
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yes it does. it will install the clockworkmod recovery. not sure if it is the latest one but it is no big deal. do make sure that you make a backup as soon as you root. have fun buddy.
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yes it does. it will install the clockworkmod recovery. not sure if it is the latest one but it is no big deal. do make sure that you make a backup as soon as you root. have fun buddy.
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Are there any root options that don't? I'm just trying to stay as close to stock as possible with just the SU permissions to enable wireless tether. Thanks again.
gadgetluva said:
Are there any root options that don't? I'm just trying to stay as close to stock as possible with just the SU permissions to enable wireless tether. Thanks again.
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None that i am aware of. But you need the recovery to make a backup. You can search the forum some more but I am pretty sure every root method requires some sort of recovery method.
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using the XDA app.
I recently started working for a company that uses good for enterprise for their email. I know how it works but my question is this.
Can't I delete su and busy box to remove root. Then whenever i need root I can just go to recovery and install a .Zip package that adds the two files back.
Does anyone know if this would be possible?
P.s. what gets me is that pirates remove security protection from payed apps all the time, but a work around for this does not exist.
Thanks
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You could nandroid your current setup then flash the unrooted OTA - leave s-off. You'll have to reflash recovery and nandroid the unrooted rom. Then you can restore your backup if you need root.
Or you can unroot and go to the 3.70 OTA (the last FroYo release) and use z4root for temp root. There isn't a temp root for the GB update, so do not unroot and accept the OTA unless you want to wait for a root exploit which could take weeks.
I don't know why you need to be unrooted for email. Depending on why, what you're asking may be possible. But do understand that modifying a rom is a lot more involved than modifying an app.
(from... Evo/MIUI/Tapatalk)
You could also try to badger your IT department to remove the restriction. It's configurable, and not something inherent in Good. My company doesn't have it enabled, for example, and I can run Good rooted.
Doubtful you'll succeed, but it can't really hurt to try, right?
Actually I'm in the IT department and only one person holds the keys, the answer was a no.. =(
But I do know GFE only checks for busybody and su. I was hoping I could delete the two files then just create a patch that could be deployed in recovery to add these m files back as needed.
But before I go flashing has anyone tried this?
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I haven't tried it since I don't need to. But back before they'd rolled Good out for us (but after I heard it was coming), I read that the administrators have the option of locking root users out. I didn't know if they were going to do it or not, so I was thinking along the exact lines you were. Luckily it turned out to be unneeded for me, but it should work. As long as you're S-OFF, there shouldn't be any real risk in trying it.
Ill prob. Try it today. I have a transformer rooted as well. So we will see.
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darkansi said:
Actually I'm in the IT department and only one person holds the keys, the answer was a no.. =(
But I do know GFE only checks for busybody and su. I was hoping I could delete the two files then just create a patch that could be deployed in recovery to add these m files back as needed.
But before I go flashing has anyone tried this?
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Yes i do it all the time but I dont flash them, I remove them then add them in again. Be sure you turn persistent mode off, then quit the app.
I used my transformer as a guinea pig and it worked. But what I did was delete su, busybox and superuser.apk.
Then whenever I needed root I would flash my rom back without wiping.
I want to make a .zip file with only those 3 files in it. So the flash time and footprint is small. Any suggestions on reading material.
@ matt1313
how do you add them back, through recovery or within the OS. (if through the os how do you r/w access.
Thanks again.
darkansi said:
I used my transformer as a guinea pig and it worked. But what I did was delete su, busybox and superuser.apk.
Then whenever I needed root I would flash my rom back without wiping.
I want to make a .zip file with only those 3 files in it. So the flash time and footprint is small. Any suggestions on reading material.
@ matt1313
how do you add them back, through recovery or within the OS. (if through the os how do you r/w access.
Thanks again.
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At the time of post I was using leaked GB and Gingerbreak, I would just use Gingerbreak to get root again when I needed it.
Now after the new update on Good to 1.73 I get ROOT detected when I have no Root. So now we need to see what they are detecting.
It would be nice if someone could decompile the app and change the ROOT detection method.
I'm still rather new to Android, and I was wondering- why do people root their phone exactly? If I root my phone, will it run slower? Also, can I run the stock ROM my phone ships with if I root it?
unity04 said:
I'm still rather new to Android, and I was wondering- why do people root their phone exactly? If I root my phone, will it run slower? Also, can I run the stock ROM my phone ships with if I root it?
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We root, because we must... It doesn't make the phone slower. It does the opposite (With the right kernel, that is )
Rooting ONLY means, that you have the right, to accss the ROM (Read-only memory) where the system files are saved...
Which means, yes. You can have root access, on a stock-ROM phone
(If interested, check my signature ^^)
unity04 said:
I'm still rather new to Android, and I was wondering- why do people root their phone exactly? If I root my phone, will it run slower? Also, can I run the stock ROM my phone ships with if I root it?
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Rooting just gives you more control over your phone, the ability to easily freeze/delete system apps, flash alternate kernels, etc... You can run your stock ROM whilst rooted, it won't slow you down.
Rooting also opens the door to being able to flash (i.e. install) alternate, custom ROMs among other things.
A basic rooted stock ROM is a good place to start out, and learn your way around things before you decide, or not, to start flashing custom kernels, ROMs, etc... OR you can happily cruise along on a fully stock phone.
Just a quick summary; there's lots more specific info available on this site, and the intarwebz to give you more detail if needed.
I'm fairly new, so hopefully I get this right. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong.
My guess is that you're coming from iPhone if you're asking if it will slow it down since jailbreaking tended to do that. It won't slow it down unless you install apps and mods that run in the background and stuff.
All rooting is, is allowing programs to run as the root user (I *think* I'm right here). This means that they can access parts of the system that are unavailable to be modified on unrooted ROMs. This means you can get things that tweak system level functionality. It's very similar to jailbreaking an iPhone except apps in the Play Store aren't prohibited from having root functionality baked in.
Yes you can root the stock ROM.
Hope that answers it for you, and I hope I got it right. It's tough trying to figure some of this stuff out. Nothing out there really explains why things are done, but only HOW they're done. Bit of a nuisance trying to get into this in that regard.
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I'm fairly new, so hopefully I get this right. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong.
My guess is that you're coming from iPhone if you're asking if it will slow it down since jailbreaking tended to do that. It won't slow it down unless you install apps and mods that run in the background and stuff.
All rooting is, is allowing programs to run as the root user (I *think* I'm right here). This means that they can access parts of the system that are unavailable to be modified on unrooted ROMs. This means you can get things that tweak system level functionality. It's very similar to jailbreaking an iPhone except apps in the Play Store aren't prohibited from having root functionality baked in.
Yes you can root the stock ROM.
Hope that answers it for you, and I hope I got it right. It's tough trying to figure some of this stuff out. Nothing out there really explains why things are done, but only HOW they're done. Bit of a nuisance trying to get into this in that regard.
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You just said, what I said ((and the other bloke, after me) xD
Yes, you answered it. But in a way, that no n00b would understand, unless he wrote it himself (You) lol
There are many reasons to root, my favorites are that I can access the root or the phone, meaning I can replace the rooms, kernels to my liking. I can overclock or underclock the phone. One more than I like to do it use ad blocker so I don't need to deal with the stupid ads that are in free apps
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We root because we like to have good phones .
And the benefits like custom colors, kernels, ROMs, and all that is nice.
Nexus S (GSM i9020a)
GummyNex (9.0)
Air Kernel (3.45)
OC 1000/200 (Lionheart)
Live OC (100 -Noop)
v6 Supercharged
To get the most out of my phone. Especially in the g1 days, you pretty much had to root because of the phones limitations
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You root to gain admin access to your phone. You'd never use a computer without admin access, same on a phone. You can tweak and change anything you can imagine with root access.
And no it doesn't make it slower, actually can make it faster.
Root access doesn't do anything in itself. It just gives you administrator access to all of the system files.
Once you have that access, you can start tweaking.
Root is only required for deep-level back-up programs, some file explorers, and rom tweakers such as Rom Manager.
Day to day stuff, Android is pretty open to anything.
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Rooting allows you to release the full potential of your phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21328733
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Its not just system access, its a way of life!
My fiancee's EVO 4g was in desperate need of replacing, so we went and got new phones. She had been playing this damned Smurf Village game for about a year and a half, and I thought I'd pull a white knight -- root the phone, back it up on Titanium, transfer the backup to the new phone, root that, restore. She insists she's okay starting over, but I thought it'd be a nice gesture. Rooting the new phone (LG Optimus G) was a piece of cake. The EVO 4g took me some time to get it to work ...
In my poor attempts at multitasking, I didn't do a nandroid backup and completely overlooked where it said it would restore to factory settings.
Is all lost? I did a search on it while it was plugged into the PC as an external drive and found a bunch of (edit: Smurf-related) files, so I feel like the data might still be there.
If not, it's all good. I learned from my mistake (I mean, c'mon, big_onion, every damn set of instructions says "make a nandroid backup") but if there's any way to get it back it might make her day.
Data restoration aside, after flashing Superuser, I still can't get TitaniumBackup to obtain superuser privileges. Any ideas what I might've done wrong? The method I used was to unlock the bootloader via HTC site, then flashboot recovery, then flash superuser. The app is there, but it doesn't seem to issue SU rights to TitaniumBackup.
Best way to gain root is to flash any custom rom here on xda. Unless it is a completely stock rom it is rooted and works without any issues. I rooted my second og evo a few days ago and had the same issue with the stock rom. After flashing a custom rom I had full root access.
Now as far as data goes most apps store that on the sdcard. I suggest installing the game on the new phone then power off and insert your old sdcard into the new phone. Hopefully it will use the old data and return your wife's game to her last state and make you look like a champ.
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jlmancuso said:
Best way to gain root is to flash any custom rom here on xda. Unless it is a completely stock rom it is rooted and works without any issues. I rooted my second og evo a few days ago and had the same issue with the stock rom. After flashing a custom rom I had full root access.
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Uhm...
You don't root android by flashing a rooted custom rom on a non root phone.
Rooting a phone must be done via a PC there is no other way.
Some stock roms ARE root.
The reason you had problems is because you were root and tried to install a non-root stock rom, if you would have installed a rooted stock rom you would of had no problems.
smh
Umm root is done by rom. Unlocking bootloader is the part done by pc.
You can be unlocked without root but can not root until you are unlocked. Rooting is the granting of admin rights to the user's apps.
I did not have an issue because I installed a non rooted rom. The rom was already on the phone which is the same spot the op is in. He is unlocked but not rooted. The htcdev unlock does not grant root rights to the current stock rom. Also the flashable zip did not grant the rom root rights.
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Umm root is done by rom.
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You don't go from not being rooted to being rooted by flashing a custom rom on the phone from the recovery menu, unless you accidentally flashed a non-root rom while you were already root.
Unlocking bootloader is the part done by pc.
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They're both done via PC at the same time with the same program (Unrevoked3 is only temporary nand)
Unrevoked Forever unlocks the bootloader permanently via recovery with an .img
http://wiki.rootzwiki.com/UnrEVOked
Wow man this will be my last response here about this but I want to say a couple quick things. First did you even read the link you posted? Yes with unrevoked you can gain nand unlock and root at the same time but if you also read it says this.
Does unrevoked³ give me root?
Yes. It previously did not; as of version 3.0, it does.
So root and nand unlock are not the same and is not always done at the same time. It is possible to be nand unlocked and not have root. Which is the case when you use htcdev unlock. Do your homework before you go making statements please.
I am not here trying to run anyone down and start fights but I am here to spread knowledge and help out others with problems. If you give someone bad information it will cause problems down the line later. Most people will assume you know what you are talking about when you make a post even if the information is not correct. So please take the time and make sure your information is correct before you post it.
So take a look at links I have posted and see what root is, how it is used, and see the difference.
This is a general overview of the root permission (depending on os it is called many different things)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superuser
This is what it means with the android
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/05/rooting-for-android-what-why-and-how/
Again not fighting but giving information that is benifical to everyone.
Peace,
Love, and
Happiness
Fail troll is fail.
OP has the information he needs.
He already is rooted and needs permanent unlock which is what Unrevoked Forever does, which is linked in the link I posted.
Edit: The PM j sent me.
jlmancuso said:
Hey man. I am not trolling. The information is real. I am a knowledgeable dev and don't want anyone getting the wrong information. Bad information leads to big mistakes that can be a devs worst nightmare. Just read the articles and if you still don't agree well that is fine by me. I at least tried to give you the correct information.
Have a nice day and enjoy this beautiful day.
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I guess he thinks Unrevoked Forever is bad information and harmful to Evos.
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If you backed up the game, you can always download titanium backup and restore. Make sure you didn't delete the files from sd-card (they should be there). Sorry if this was already answered or i'm wrong. :fingers-crossed:
edit: if its a stock rom and you backup every app with titanium back up you could.
jlmancuso is having a hard week. i would give him a break. as far as i can tell he's genuinely trying to be helpful and is catching crap from all sides these days. eventually he will slow down and not accidentally provoke people (or take things personally). but he seems like valuable asset to the community overall so i'm rooting for him. OP good luck with your issue.
It's already unlocked, via the instructions from the HTC dev site. I didn't use Unrevoked -- I tried, and got a message about something being too new of a version. I'll dig around more, but I before I spent too much time I wanted to make sure I could restore the data on the stupid Smurf game for her.
I did NOT do a Titanium Backup of anything on there before I started. The LG Optimus G doesn't have an SD card, so I can't just swap SD cards. I can copy files from the EVO to the PC then to the LGOG. I think I might install Smurfs on the new phone, root it, then just try and copy the Smurf files from the EVO over to the Optimus G and see if overwriting the data files would restore her game.
Will report back on whether or not it works, or if I can't get superuser working.
And chill out, friends. I appreciate all sorts of info, even if it's not what I'm looking for. Y'all rock.
I am not taking it personally and dont think unrevoked is harmful. I am not going to argue with anyone about the facts. I posted the articles al5uwtqind if anyone wants to read them and learn more than cool. The information is for the benefit of everyone. Call troll or a$$ or whatever. I am here to help like most everyone.
Knowledge is power so empower someone else today.
Peace,
Love, and
Happiness
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big_onion said:
Data restoration aside, after flashing Superuser, I still can't get TitaniumBackup to obtain superuser privileges. Any ideas what I might've done wrong? The method I used was to unlock the bootloader via HTC site, then flashboot recovery, then flash superuser. The app is there, but it doesn't seem to issue SU rights to TitaniumBackup.
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I think he meant "Htcdev site" then "fastboot flash recovery", but it seems like Big_Onion did everything right as far as rooting the phone, but there can be other reasons why Titanium is not working properly. It could be Titanium data needs to be wiped or it could be an issue with busybox. He never said he was not rooted, he only said that superuser was not giving Titanium root permissions, which has happened to me also. I wish he would have ran the root checker app too, to verify did he really have root or not. Then it would be easier to tell which path to take.
And also, why are we arguing over unrevoked and unrevoked-forever? Those don't work on the newer stock roms, because they were patched in 2011 by the first Gingerbread update on. Since big_onion used the Htcdev site, he is likely on Gingerbread. They, unrevoked3 and forever, would only work if he downgraded the radios to the ones which came with either Eclair or Froyo, the two previous operating systems. Titanium backup only needs an unlocked bootloader from the Htcdev site, and superuser permissions from the superuser app to work. Anything else is just extra, at least on Gingerbread.