[Q] credit for the themers and dev's - EVO 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I've been working on a Rom for myself and its turning out really good. I've just about decided to release it as a theme. In the beginning I chopped up many many roms and themes from here and other sections (desire, incredible) without keeping track of where what came from. Mostly PNG's as I dont have an artistic bone in my body. I can and will give credit were I can I just wanted to know were every one stands on my situation. Im building it on a netbook running windows 7 so memory is slim so alot of the .zips get deleted as I went. I'll do my best to do some legwork to find out before I post it.

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G1 Theme Website...

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yo is there a website for G1 themes where you can post your own and get some
or is XDA the best we got soo far
Theming has been available for what? A week? Give it time
furreal i thought its been like a month
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furreal i thought its been like a month
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Then why don't you get a domain name and create a site?
he was just asking if there was a website...
because i dont feel like redownloading and cracking fireworks and dreamweaver
but in the future i might just do that and use it as turn it in as project for my web design class
btw im in the 11th grade
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ahh.. gives me ideass to make a theme webiste.. lol.. if you make one i'll help contribute some themes to it .. just have to wait until putting themes on your phone becomes easier for the end user that doesn't know about XDA .. and flashing .. and what the heck a Root is
It is kind of humorous.
I was in the market for a new phone and was looking at the Iphone since it came out. Three or four guys at work showed me their phones and I was hooked, damned be the Iphone's good looks.
After having my phone for two weeks I noticed that the stuff coming out on the Android Market was usefull, but since I like things like Overclocking, you know... bigger...better...faster, I stumbled onto this website about a 2 weeks before the root RC30>RC29 breakthrough. I am trying to keep up because I think this android thing is gonna be really big and I am trying to keep up.
Its been along time since I have done any difficult computer stuff, and these forums has caused me to start considering learning something about Linux.
Themes and Wallpapers will probably get alot easier in the future, but I will be able to look back and say, I remember when we used to have to do things the hard way.
Yes indeed .. the Android in a lil shy of 3 months has already made so much progress
the android system will be come soo universal that the iphone will pale in comparison unless apple changes how they go about things , hardware wise
i think the iphone's hardware is a masterpeice but, the OS is like a trainwreck
ooooo imagine an iphone with android that would be pretty badass
but anyways
the free-ness and the ubiquidocity that will become of the android system
will lead too greatness
roguestatuskat said:
yo is there a website for G1 themes where you can post your own and get some
or is XDA the best we got soo far
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modmygphone.com has a Themes section where you can upload/download themes.
xda site has more themes but its not as organized =[
Dave Da illest 1 said:
Yes indeed .. the Android in a lil shy of 3 months has already made so much progress
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Went from a newborn on 22 October to it's current state as a cute lil' toddler with it's own personality already in just 3 months.
Now there's root for all thanks to JesusFreke; Koush has the screenshot and autorotate browser, we've got a good collection of themes started, 190 apps on Market and 140 games.
Our lil' Android is growing up. Ahh, they grow up so fast, don't they?
you are damn right they do
well the android system anyways its like a baby on steroids and growth hormone
Hi guys...I am thinking about creating a website that will host G1 themes, backgrounds, icon sets...etc. Kinda like a one site for all G1 stuff. If I were to create this website, would I have support from the G1 XDA crew, like providing with themes and what not?
Also, I will need some people to help me run the website and stuff so if you have experience, let me know
Cheers
Sounds like a pretty sweet idea, because I have a feeling this whole thing is gonna skyrocket once the Android usage hits critical mass later this year. I'd try to contribute on such a site, no doubt.
agusta said:
Hi guys...I am thinking about creating a website that will host G1 themes, backgrounds, icon sets...etc. Kinda like a one site for all G1 stuff. If I were to create this website, would I have support from the G1 XDA crew, like providing with themes and what not?
Also, I will need some people to help me run the website and stuff so if you have experience, let me know
Cheers
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Reasons I'd consider waiting are as follows:
1, When CupCake is released, what kind of impact will this have on the theming community.
2, Maybe wait until all themes are cross platform compatible (i.e. we don't need separate RC8, RC30, and ADP1 versions)
3, Maybe wait until the first theming program is release, so people not aware don't try to randomly flash and jack up their phone.
4, Do we really need a dedicated website already? Have we even hit the 10 theme mark yet? (Also, aren't they all in here right now anyway?)
These are just my thoughts. Others' will probably differ.
Sounds like a great idea i am down check your p.m box.
I have the recources for this web site, but i can not develope it. If someone can make the website, i can host it. P.M me for more information.
I 100% agree with Mi|enko.
Wait it out man.... the operating system is changing so fast that you don't want to waste the money. There are rumors of Google releasing a theme creator which will be available "online". (You will create your theme from Gmail.com and it will sync with your phone).
That would mean your website goes down the hole REAL quick...

Re-re porters at large!!!

To Whom It May Concern!
Don't port over other theme dever's stuff unless they give the ok.
in this scenario you either get permission or make your own.
STAY AWAY FROM MANUP456 THEME'S IF OTHER THEME DEVER'S ARE OK WITH IT BE MY GUEST!
EDIT#1s. this post edit is decdicated to all you ALL CAP HATERS!! get over it and just read the flippin post!!!!
Edit#2:This thread was taken way out of context there has been an extreme amount of negativity spawned from this post. I did not intend to offend and at the time of the orignal post I admitt I approached the topic in the wrong state of mind again my appologies and I want to express my apprreciation to all dev's and themers you guys kepp this sight going. . . Although I spoke-out before I thought, this EDIT is much needed.. Now if its not to much to ask let's move.. the last thing XDA need is another flame war.
Um, I see other posts (see MOONSSPOON's post in the Gloos/Aero port thread) where the original developer doesn't seem to mind the port. If you don't want people porting your work just say so, but I don't personally think the people porting are "pirates". They are just trying to help out because of all of the recent new releases.
I'm sure different theme developers have different opinions on this, just state in your original post if you don't want people using it. Though I have to say, if JF/Hakyro/etc all said "this is my work you can't use it" where would development be right now? That being the case though, I do think people should respect your request and not port it if that's what you want. Though it's going to be really silly if ports start showing up on torrent trackers lol. (come on you know that's funny)
big nu said:
To Whom It May Concern!!
you know who you are!!!
STOP! STOP! STOP! PORTING OVER THEMES THAT YOU DID'NT DEVELOPE WITH OUT ASKING PERMISSION FIRST THATS JUST DISRESPECTFULL!!! YOU HAVE 2 OPTIONS IN THIS SCENARIO WAIT FOR THE DEVELOPER TO PORT IT OVER OFFICIALLY OR (DRUMROLL PLEASE). . .MAKE YOUR OWN!!!!
AS FOR THOSE OF YOU FLASHING THESE THEMES KNOW ONE THING, IT IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR THESE "PIRATE-PORTERS" TO GIVE YOU AND OFFCIAL, 100%PRODUCT SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY DID NOT CREATE IT!! SO ON THAT NOTE FLASH AT YOUR OWN RISK
HEY PIRATE-PORTERS!!! STOP CHOPPING UP PEOPLES WORK!!!
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1) All caps is never a way to get your point across effectively
2) As the above poster said, the unwritten rule around here is that yes, it's great to ask the developer first. If you don't, however, it's perfectly acceptable to just say "I ported _____s theme over to 1.5" as long as you're not taking credit for the original theme.
This community is based on collaboration, and as long as people give credit where it is due, it's ok (at least in my book).
Oh come on...
1. Please edit it to normal letters... you behave like this guy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDDEhLw1PVI
2. I really dont like people porting themes and presenting them beeing their own, but there is nearly no one doing it. So please think before you post...
How many people do we need porting one theme is the problem,if the dev says its cool then fine but four and five people porting the same theme is bound to end up in a mess. I myself will port my own themes which all theme devs should be doing. It is not safe to have people who are just jumping into this porting themes and or creating them,its all fun till people start messing up there phones then the volume of threads and post will go up because people will need to know how to fix there phone. If the people porting don't have a good amount of experience then what happens then? its becomes another's person's problem to help them.
Food for thought.
manup456 said:
It is not safe to have people who are just jumping into this porting themes and or creating them...
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Isn't that exactally the idea?
[HOW TO]Manuals for creating a Theam
There's even a manual to show people how to get started. I think if you're on these forums and flashing your phone it's a given that you're taking a risk. That's what it's all about, if you don't want that risk you shouldn't be downloading stuff from here, use an application with themes on the market.
Everyone starts not knowing how to do it, it's a learning process.
Again, I think people shouldn't be stepping on the toes of the developer. I also think you should edit your post so that you don't claim to speak for all theme developers.
Well that's my $.02 anyway.
im with manup, if you make a theme for one version, its a lot easier to port it, then it is to make a whole new one.
Just be considerate and patient... let the Theme-Creator take his/her time to what they want...
im all for requests to port a theme to a certain version, and for the most part it gets done.
Who's porting manup's themes?
Porting is not creating if you are learning to create theme fine then create one. The guides are very basic they teach you how to get started if everyone could create themes they would just like the devs who create builds for the phone. The problem is if you want to mess up your phone fine but why risk others phones in your learning process? Dude's build and all the new builds have a bunch of extra icons how are you going about that?
It pains me to see people taking builds/themes chopping them up and putting them back together with very little knowledge of what's really going on in there. There is no way for someone porting a theme to know if there are any .xml edits or .jar edits like stericson is doing.
Ryanmo5 said:
Who's porting manup's themes?
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There was a request for a port to JF1.5 in the PS theme thread. I was going to post a port but didn't (at his request) and another poster said he had one that he wouldn't post.
I haven't seen one actually posted though. I assume this post was due to the request for the theme port.
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Who's porting manup's themes?
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Don't worry bro thats a main reason we started this my themes cant be ported by anyone but me.
I kinda felt a little weird and a little scared to port all these old themes with new people all of the sudden taking other members themes and screwing and chopping them. I also would think the better choice is to maybe wait for the original theme creator to port it for whatever new update comes out. just to kinda keep things safe. Its cool to do it for your personal use or mess around a little with other people's ish but i personally wouldn't really want anyone messing with my themes if i was the creator. just my .02
My theme was ported without my permission, I didn't say anything because this is just my contribution back to the community. The only problem I see with other people porting themes is that they might leave stuff out. I'm still in the process of porting my Aero theme to 1.5, that will include everything that was from the other version plus more.
I think it's great to see people want themes so bad they are doing the port themselves BUT at the same time, I agree that it should be done by the dev. I put a lot of time into my themes, making sure everything is just right, before even posting I have one available. Over the last 2 or 3 months themes have become so much more intricate than just icon changes and a status bar change. And if you port one over but don't move everything over, it can ruin the overall appeal of the theme. Once everything settles down with the 1.5 builds then I'll start porting my own over, the first will be carbon, and like spikey, it'll have a lot more done to it, I'm basically only using the orignal icons and that's it.
Also with 1.5 the custom edits are a lot different, and it's taking time to get them out. Thanks to Stericson we're finally starting to get some available.
I don't think it's piracy, but also wouldn't want one of my themes ported and posted without my permission. I know it happens and we can't stop it from happening, but show a little respect and patience, devs want to make sure our initial ideas remain through all versions of our themes
let the authors go after people that port their work without permission...
are you the authors? Of course correct thing to do is ask them first hand. However, If nothing is said to these "pirates", then authors probably dont care, dont do the caring for them.
since everyone else has their two cents in here i'm gonna throw mine in too. i personally have no problem with people porting my work, but of course i expect credit for the theme itself, and if i find out the theme porter got a donation for the theme i will rip off his balls and shove them down his throat. i see why manup would be upset that people are porting his work, i would be willing to bet that if he is given credit then people will go to him and say something like "hi i was using your haykuro 1.5 port of your ninja theme and now my phone won't boot. can you tell me how to fix it?"(i used this example becasue i am pretty sure no one has ported it yet) if someone is going to port another's work i prefer the rule of don't touch it till you have permission. i see DVD's and CDs the same way, it's leagal to make a digital copy for personal use, but not to distribute, if you wanna port your favorite theme yourself for your personal phone then fine go ahead but you are responsible for the brick you end up with.
as a general rule unless the dev says it's ok just let them port the theme, you are more likely to get a full port if you wait for the dev to do it since they are the original creator and know what they changed. as to multiple people porting the same themes that needs to stop because people will get confused and i will not be able to contain myself when the threads start popping up the the dev forum "i bricked my phone after porting XXXXX theme"
(steps down off soapbox) that's just my opinion
zeezee said:
let the authors go after people that port their work without permission...
are you the authors? Of course correct thing to do is ask them first hand. However, If nothing is said to these "pirates", then authors probably dont care, dont do the caring for them.
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thanks for your input zeezee, but i work hand and hand w/ the author and he and i agreed on posting this thread.. fyi he's not the only one that isnt crazy about people porting other peoples work and w/ all the themes we have on this forum, and all the new builds that are out, this is a subject that needed to be clarified...
Hey hypocrites...do you see google posting to this board that we "ruined the consistency of there theme" or "don't want us to ruin our phones w/ hackware and then ask them questions when a jf/haykuro/dude port messed them up." NO, I didn't think so. You should be grateful someone likes your theme enough to port it. You don't own your theme...this is a community involved project (developing for this phone as a whole). You can't TM Or copyright a theme on a hacked phone and the notion that you would if you could is beyond me. Bottom line is if the credit is given to the origonal dev it should be ok....except for Manups (and that's only done out of respect). This thread has so far made me sick and I don't have a strong gag reflex.
Can you honestly imagine if more themers/devs thought this way? Xda wouldn't be!
Here's a motto to live by in this type of community setting. "Why write code twice" meaning if somethings out there you can improve on, use it giving credit where due...but WHY would you write it again....
MODS SHOULD CLOSE THIS THREAD...for obvious reasons, and before the fighting starts, like going against everything XDA even stands for.
I really appreciate all the hard work xda's theme developers do to create all these themes. I have absolutely no photoshop skills (never even used it) and haven't found the time to set up the resigning tool.
Whenever something has gone wrong with a custom theme, I never feel the need to bother theme developers. Anyone who has actually read through this forum should know common troubleshooting steps e.g. wipe, reflash, etc.
Keeping that in mind, there are many people who don't take the time to actually read threads around here, and regardless of who ports what, I would think that the questions will keep coming no matter what.
That said, I have a ported theme on my phone right now, and I really appreciate work done by a "pirate". like i said, i'm not set up right now to port themes on my own, and a "pirate" saved me a lot of time. He didn't have to share, but he did and i appreciate that. You can imagine the fuss that would be raised if someone was holding out on other members..
I'd rather be using a full theme, but what I want out of this theme is slightly modified, and I'm not sure if the theme dev will oblige me.
So big thanks to devs and pirates alike, i love the way my phone looks. Hopefully all of you will be able to work out all the important details and the community will continue to thrive!
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Hey hypocrites...do you see google posting to this board that we "ruined the consistency of there theme" or "don't want us to ruin our phones w/ hackware and then ask them questions when a jf/haykuro/dude port messed them up." NO, I didn't think so. You should be grateful someone likes your theme enough to port it. You don't own your theme...this is a community involved project (developing for this phone as a whole). You can't TM Or copyright a theme on a hacked phone and the notion that you would if you could is beyond me. Bottom line is if the credit is given to the origonal dev it should be ok....except for Manups (and that's only done out of respect). This thread has so far made me sick and I don't have a strong gag reflex.
Can you honestly imagine if more themers/devs thought this way? Xda wouldn't be!
Here's a motto to live by in this type of community setting. "Why write code twice" meaning if somethings out there you can improve on, use it giving credit where due...but WHY would you write it again....
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Amen, brother.
Also, just curious if all of the theme devs actually designed their own artwork (all of it) or if they just took images from online and used them without permission regardless of copyright infringement? (and I know the overall answer.. because I see a LOT of copyrighted images in many themes, icon sets and backgrounds.) If I stole a bunch of Mickey Mouse(TM) artwork and made backgrounds, icon sets, etc.. I wouldnt really be able to complain about people stealing my theme, since I stole the images, right?
As far as being respectful, sure.. I can understand and agree with that, but if I make a theme and never port it to newer versions.. well, I would expect someone to go ahead and do it (if there was a demand for my theme). I would expect them to keep the theme name and give me credit for the original port. This is afterall, an open source community..
In the end, all you can do as a theme dev is attach a Readme.txt to your themes with you name, forum name, email address and other contact information and ask that people please do not port your theme without your permission.
Good luck enforcing the issue though..
Rick

Wishing to cook up his own version of a ROM... few questions though.

Hey there,
I'm another guy who's been creeping around the board for the last month and have been eager to modify a ROM to my own needs.
Basically it comes down to that i would love to have the ability to take a modified ROM and rip out some of the parts i do not want or use or for whatever reason.
For like the past two hours i've been trying to google tons of sentences and i heard the term "kitchen" dropped alot, but alas. I could find no more info then the plus-member-kitchen-deal from modaco...
So now i'm wondering, How -does- one modify a rom. Are there any tools available for my wishes. (If yes, can you name any? If no, what skills are required?)
I need a good shove in the right direction, but i dont feel like pm-ing a random rom developer, just because im a whining ***** about some usually small aspects of the otherwise great rom(s).
Removing apps/widgets from a rom really isn't difficult.
If you PM me with exactly what you'd like to remove, I'll explain in full
Cooking ROMS
Annihlator said:
Hey there,
I'm another guy who's been creeping around the board for the last month and have been eager to modify a ROM to my own needs.
Basically it comes down to that i would love to have the ability to take a modified ROM and rip out some of the parts i do not want or use or for whatever reason.
For like the past two hours i've been trying to google tons of sentences and i heard the term "kitchen" dropped alot, but alas. I could find no more info then the plus-member-kitchen-deal from modaco...
So now i'm wondering, How -does- one modify a rom. Are there any tools available for my wishes. (If yes, can you name any? If no, what skills are required?)
I need a good shove in the right direction, but i dont feel like pm-ing a random rom developer, just because im a whining ***** about some usually small aspects of the otherwise great rom(s).
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You can't go wrong with using the CKDroid ROM if you are just looking for a custom ROM, however, Villain's ROMS are updated regulary and there is loads of support in the forums, it's not as hard as you think.

[Q] Thoughts on ROMs other than Cyanogen...

Just curious what people like other than Cyanogen. If CM (which seems to be the favorite) didn't exist, which would you choose?
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Well, yeah man, but I was hoping we could do it constructively. There's no need to go off on him. Even if you're right, you'd get more sympathy from people by skipping the name-calling. Sorry if you think I'm out of bounds. Just trying to be fair.
well, i loved 3rd sense untill i decided to play with themes... great froyo/sense rom
Well I enjoy any AOSP Roms, trying to stay away from sense Roms. I seen so much of it on my touch pro 2.
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Ok, I'm sorta indifferent as to which roms are my favorite, etc.
When I got my original myTouch, I was a religious Jesterdroid/Pandoradroid user [stock Android, themed, with some ported Cyan goodies as well as some MotoBlur enhancements and animations]. I was sorta afraid, if anything, to use anything different, since every time I flashed a different ROM, one of the phone's capabilities would be wonky [ie camera would be weird, soft keyboard would randomly FC out of nowhere, various apps weren't compatible, etc].
When I got my slide, the first thing I flashed was Cyanogenmod, and it was a totally new experience, but I missed the Stock Sense that the Slide came with. When 3rd Sense came out, I hopped onto that bandwagon and used that religiously until CM 6.1.1 came out, and everything worked. Everything.
I like the organization and flow of Sense a lot, because I like seeing a contact being connected through Peep [Twitter], Dialer [Phone], and Friendstream [Facebook] in one place, as opposed to many different places that stock Android has. HTC has it right in terms of their UI. Although it can get really bogged down at times, since a lot of things are running at once, I prefer Sense over Stock Android.
But at the moment, the only decent Sense rom [for the Slide] needs the Froyo kernel from T-Mo, so it still isn't working 100%. I know that once it drops [IF it drops] 3rdSense will come up to par with Cyanogenmod. But until then, I'm sticking with CM.
[and I'm currently using CM with Cyanoginger flashed over it]
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Well, yeah man, but I was hoping we could do it constructively. There's no need to go off on him. Even if you're right, you'd get more sympathy from people by skipping the name-calling. Sorry if you think I'm out of bounds. Just trying to be fair.
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What you said wasn't out of bounds at all.
I'm also currently on 3rd sense and would love to see another update of it. It's pretty close to perfection. MusicMan and etu_aty have also posted respectable roms. You don't see much Espresso stock in all its glory or a decked out Froyo. Actually, you don't see those at all. This is exactly what we need. I'm a fan of Cyanogen roms, but we don't need copycat roms (even if the source code is different than Cyanogen's) trying to be better when they offer the same thing as the last rom.
I love CR_Mod. Chiefz seemed to let it go for now and MusicMan came and did something with it. Cyanoginger is also a fresh take on the CM source with further advances to working properly. And really, all roms seem to be pretty fast so they're just about equal in speed. The fact that there's less bloatware makes it even smoother. These are exactly what we need.
This thread is asking for comments on roms you LIKE, other than CM, it is not a place to flame other members. Any more of this flaming/disrespecting others will result in infractions.
I couldn't care less if people like or dislike a particular rom or dev, I do however care that recently people have been using this forum to vent their anger at others. I'm not prepared to let this continue. If you have a problem with someone take it to PM or report their post. Let this serve as the one and only warning that I will start issuing infractions if this behaviour continues.
I should point out that this is a general warning to everyone, not just the people who have recently had posts deleted in other threads.
To answer the op, cyanogenmod is the rom of choice because people love customization. Plus people like solid roms. From experience, cm has more features and is more stable. Plus, if google ever releases a new version of android, cyanogen is usually the first to give it to us. I think i just have cyanogenmod loyalty since our G1s stopped getting OTAs after 1.6 and cyanogen kept us up-to-date. I've tried sense roms on the G1 one. They ran so slowwwwwwwwwww!
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I'm also a big fan of CM but unfortunately, it gave me a huge problem for some reason where I couldn't call one of my contacts. I was helped through it by T-Mo tech support for about a month and eventually I just decided it must be the ROM so I unrooted and everything's been fine. Clearly some combination of the root and my network connection didn't gel. So, sadly, I had to give up CM 6.0. I was hoping to inspire some good dialogue about the functionality of other ROMs to see what people think about the other things going on in the Slide ROM world.
Those of you who have said "other", let us know which ones and why!

So Long Team Gummy :-[

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Kejar posted on Twitter:
An end to an era - RIP Gummy
Well guys I think I am done with Gummy. It has been fun but too costly on mine and family’s time. Over the last few months I have really lost interest and this has become more of a job than something I did for fun. Adam and I have talked and we both agree that the whole project has just burnt us out. To do a proper Gummy with JB would require way more work than I am really willing to put into it at this point.
I am not quitting completely, I am just done running a project. I am sure you will see me here and there helping other teams/friends out. It was fun while it lasted but everything has to come to an end.
Hate to see this happen ... I've run nothing but their work from day one on this phone, it has always been flawless and packed with features. I will stick with the Linaro3 build for now I guess and not migrate to 4.1 until I find out whose is the best out there with some of the features like added buttons and such that I have grown accustomed to. Not into tweaking power settings and such.
Thanks guys for all of the awesome time and work you had put into the community. You were truly under appreciated and will be missed.
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I'm gutted. Ive been runny their ROM for ages and love it. Can't fault anything. Don't know what ROM I'm going to use for JB now as I was looking forward to their ROM.
Truly gutted
Ankh87 said:
I'm gutted. Ive been runny their ROM for ages and love it. Can't fault anything. Don't know what ROM I'm going to use for JB now as I was looking forward to their ROM.
Truly gutted
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kejar31 released a JB form AOSP ROM for Toro, Im pissed no Maguro build but if u want it its out here
Man....so long Team Gummy. Been a good run. I understand that its too demanding but hey, that's what happens when you put out a great ROM. The public demands it!
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