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If I buy phone full price (unsubsidized) will they update my phone?

will they still update the phone even if you do not add the phone to an account. buying it outright.
I'm planning to buy a phone on second shipment. Will these be updated already before the box is even opened.
I'm asking for rooting purposes.

I've heard Sprint is not selling any "cold" phones, which is essentially the phone with no phone or contract attached to it, so unless you are getting it from somewhere else, or the rep was incorrect, what you are trying to buy does not exist as they have to send it with phone/contract information attached
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To answer the first question I don't think it will come with the update on it yet. I have heard best buy has done the update when activating though so make sure they don't.

RTessi said:
I've heard Sprint is not selling any "cold" phones, which is essentially the phone with no phone or contract attached to it, so unless you are getting it from somewhere else, or the rep was incorrect, what you are trying to buy does not exist as they have to send it with phone/contract information attached
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I don't think that is what he meant he was just stating that he is paying full price and not renewing his contract. Sprint is selling a lot of EVO's that way as many have come from the Hero, TP2, or Moment. If that is what you meant than the rep lied to you.

sorry, should have been more clear. I want to buy the phone without putting it on an account. I can't do this from the sprint store even if I pay full price?

my rep installed the ota update after i said not to do anything other then activate it, or sell it to me, in fear of not being able to root afterwards...
so, when he handed it to me and it was updated, i gave it back to him and told him, "i hope you enjoy your new evo, now lets try this again"
started over with new evo and they sold mine to the next guy
turns out you can still root after the ota update, but didnt know that untill after the fact
so for root purposes, it wont matter for now, but if theres another update...
who knows, personally i believe the devs here enjoy the challenge as every update that was put out for the phones so far, it seems 1 dev or another has taken it on and rooted it

just saw our reply... i wouldnt see why they wouldnt, just tell them you want to buy it and you'll set it up yourself, call up a store and ask.
edit... or, shoot i just may sell you mine at cost lol.... JK im keeping this 1

i bought mine outright at best buy.
expensive as hell but i must have epic phone for epic phone is epic.

bob13bob said:
will they still update the phone even if you do not add the phone to an account. buying it outright.
I'm planning to buy a phone on second shipment. Will these be updated already before the box is even opened.
I'm asking for rooting purposes.
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there's a new root already for the OTA update. Works perfect.

rljetsetradio said:
i bought mine outright at best buy.
expensive as hell but i must have epic phone for epic phone is epic.
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Do you get the rebate when doing this?

drewX2 said:
Do you get the rebate when doing this?
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i dont think you get a rebate when buying outright the rebate is part of the contract isnt it?
it was like 650 after taxes.
i was supposed to get a butooth headset for free though that i forgot about cause i just got a EPIC phone. gonna go back to them tomorrow.

rljetsetradio said:
i dont think you get a rebate when buying outright the rebate is part of the contract isnt it?
it was like 650 after taxes.
i was supposed to get a butooth headset for free though that i forgot about cause i just got a EPIC phone. gonna go back to them tomorrow.
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if you bought the phone out of pocket with no upgrade, it shout be 450 out the door plus taxes, where did you buy this phone, they ripped you off!

bestbuy should pricematch sprint store. even after you bought. bring in an ad. google evo bestbuy pricematch for more info. they sometimes they give you some hassle but according to their policy they should do it. ( It's not a bundle offer, you are buying the phone alone at full retail.)

I just got a call from the Northbay Police Dept.

Turns out my Gnex was stolen from Bell.
I'm on Rogers and my contract is not up for renewal as I just upgraded to the Samsung Captivate last summer.
I went to Best Buy and was told that they don't sell the Nexus without a plan. Fine.
I went to the local Rogers store and they wouldn't have stock for a week. Fine.
I check out kijiji.ca. I found a BNIB Gnex in Northbay. I drove through a raging snowstorm to buy it that night for $600.
Cool! I got a Nexus!
Months go by. Fast forward to this afternoon.
'Hi, I'm constable blah from the Northbay Police Dept. Do you own a Google Nexus?'. I'm thinking to myself, 'oh no, this can't be good...'
I have to turn in my phone by Monday afternoon. AND I'm out the $600. AND I got no phone.
Moral of my sad story, always buy from the store. Not some guy on ebay or kijiji.
What lesson have I learnt. Be patient and buy from a store. Don't be in such a hurry.

Wow, that really sucks.

Ouch, that really sucks. Did they give you any receipt to claim this on your taxes at least?

I'd have said "Yes I bought it, but then I sold it"
Done.
Is it your fault some poor guy got his phone stolen? Or, because its new, a store? Who cares, its not your problem...well it IS your problem now because you admitted to owning it, but whatever.
You payed in honest your hard earned money for a phone you had no idea was stolen so from a moral standpoint I think thats fine.
So now what? Phone gets returned and now that $600 was basically stolen from YOU. Fair right?
You could have just said you bought it but then sold it. Done.
And just because you got ripped off doesn't mean everyone on Kijiji or ebay is bad. I buy and sell all the time through kijiji. Just be smarter about it in the future. Find out where it came from, see the proof of purchase, things like this.

$600, why not buy from Verizon
also, never buy expensive stuffs on Ebay or those second hand web sites.

zeke1988 said:
$600, why not buy from Verizon
also, never buy expensive stuffs on Ebay or those second hand web sites.
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He's in Canada using Bell, so that's a GSM Nexus.

Sucks, one of the reasons I didn't buy from Kijiji. Sudbury eh? I went to high school, college and uni there.

The forums really should be split I'm tired of Verizon users thinking everybody is in the US, not everybody on xda is get over it
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geeksquad2 said:
Turns out my Gnex was stolen from Bell.
I'm on Rogers and my contract is not up for renewal as I just upgraded to the Samsung Captivate last summer.
I went to Best Buy and was told that they don't sell the Nexus without a plan. Fine.
I went to the local Rogers store and they wouldn't have stock for a week. Fine.
I check out kijiji.ca. I found a BNIB Gnex in Northbay. I drove through a raging snowstorm to buy it that night for $600.
Cool! I got a Nexus!
Months go by. Fast forward to this afternoon.
'Hi, I'm constable blah from the Northbay Police Dept. Do you own a Google Nexus?'. I'm thinking to myself, 'oh no, this can't be good...'
I have to turn in my phone by Monday afternoon. AND I'm out the $600. AND I got no phone.
Moral of my sad story, always buy from the store. Not some guy on ebay or kijiji.
What lesson have I learnt. Be patient and buy from a store. Don't be in such a hurry.
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Damn that sucks. It is things like that, that make me hesitant on buying things from craigslist/Kijiji and why I always keep my receipt/OEM box in case I do ever decide to sell an expensive device so I can prove to the buyer that they are legit.

There's no way to get your money back? You'd think you'd have a legit claim there, considering there was all sorts of fraud/misrepresentation.

Normally, you would be the bona fide purchaser. If you paid a reasonable price for the item and the item is considered a common good, which it is, you will win in the court of law. HOWEVER, sites like the one you got it from is considered "caveat emptor", meaning buyer beware. Because it is common knowledge that illegal goods may be sold on such websites as that and Craigslist, you are in fact agreeing to that knowledge when purchasing something.
Unless Bell decides to be nice, HA!, they have rightful ownership of the device. The only recourse you have is to sue the seller for fraudulent activities. Good luck with that one.
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For anyone who would like to know, not ALL items have to be returned in this case. For example, cash cannot be returned if it was used to purchase a consumable. Also, something like lumber or bricks that were used to build your house cannot be returned.
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This information is for educational and informational purposes only and should not be misconstrued as legal advice.

thehacker010 said:
Normally, you would be the bona fide purchaser. If you paid a reasonable price for the item and the item is considered a common good, which it is, you will win in the court of law. HOWEVER, sites like the one you got it from is considered "caveat emptor", meaning buyer beware. Because it is common knowledge that illegal goods may be sold on such websites as that and Craigslist, you are in fact agreeing to that knowledge when purchasing something.
Unless Bell decides to be nice, HA!, they have rightful ownership of the device. The only recourse you have is to sue the seller for fraudulent activities. Good luck with that one.
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For anyone who would like to know, not ALL items have to be returned in this case. For example, cash cannot be returned if it was used to purchase a consumable. Also, something like lumber or bricks that were used to build your house cannot be returned.
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I am not a lawyer and my comments above are only my personal opinions.
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lol if you're not a lawyer I suggest not using such strong language .
It's a simple contracts case w/ fraud, misrepresentation, etc., but since he's from Canada I'd be hesitant to really weigh in with what I think.
Primarily b/c I am a lawyer, but an American one .

cordell507 said:
The forums really should be split I'm tired of Verizon users thinking everybody is in the US, not everybody on xda is get over it
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I am tired of the high and mighty attitude that some GSM users have. So I agree, lets split them. Not everyone is GSM, so get over it.

You could probably file a small claims case for around $75 as an infrequent claimant.

Yes, it does suck. I just realized that to get another Gnex, I have to cough up another $680 to buy one from Rogers.
I'm going to have the world's most expensive $1280 Nexus soon.
No, I'm not lying to the police. I wasn't brought up like that. I'm Sorry you were. Besides, I'm too old to start stirring the pot with the popo, and if I did, it wouldn't be over a $600 phone.
Yes, I do buy other goods from kijiji. I probably will still do so, and yes I will be much more leary and vigilent of possible fraud. And I will probably avoid buying electronics from kijiji though.
Yup, born on the Rock. Sounds like you were too, why the move to the flat part of the country?
What's Verizon?
The officer said if the Judge orders restitution, I may get a refund or the phone back... eventually... like in a year and a half or so. I'm not holding my breath.
Hey, at least I'm not getting charged with possesion of stolen property! There's a bonus!
I looked at Bell and Rogers to see if there was any newer phone that I might upgrade to. No.. the Gnex still has the HD screen and ICS.
So this weekend I'll be buying another one from the Rogers store.
That really sucks. I was saving the $ for long tube headers and dual exhaust for my truck.

Adreno said:
I'd have said "Yes I bought it, but then I sold it"
Done.
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The police obviously traced the IMEI of the phone since it was in use. How else did they know who to call? They called because they knew you had the phone and were using it

That really sucks man and I can honestly say I know how you feel.
I bought 6 Verizon BlackBerry 8830 phones a few years ago to resell them and before I bought them I called Verizon to make sure the ESNs were clear and I was told that they were.
I buy the phones, sell them on eBay, and after a month the seller says the ESNs are bad. I get the phones back after refunding the buyer $1200 (I bought them for $800 I believe) and then I get a call from Verizon saying the phones I had were stolen and then they had the cops call me asking if I had the phones and that I had to turn them in. I told them I bought them from someone else and tried to give a description of the guy and the car he drove but I met him 70 miles from my house.
It really, really sucked. Sorry that you had to go through that, it's a big downer when it happens.

geeksquad2 said:
No, I'm not lying to the police. I wasn't brought up like that. I'm Sorry you were. Besides, I'm too old to start stirring the pot with the popo, and if I did, it wouldn't be over a $600 phone.
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Thank you for being an honest person. If you ever have some kind of donation option to fund your new phone, I'll be the first to pitch in.
Good people shouldn't get screwed over by scammers (I almost was on a completely defective "mint condition" HTC Sensation), but lying will only set you up for some other problem down the road.
Good luck.

Sorry to hear that OP, you seem like a good person that got screwed over by some dirtbag . Any chance you paid by PayPal? They tend to side with buyers. Something tells me you paid cash though
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adrynalyne said:
I am tired of the high and mighty attitude that some GSM users have. So I agree, lets split them. Not everyone is GSM, so get over it.
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No, but he said in his original post that he was on Bell and his phone was a stolen Rogers phone - aka 'not Verizon'. That's zeke's mistake for not reading the post. Still, everyone else in the world uses GSM, so yes, Verizon's got a smaller market and the CDMA Nexus isn't going to be that common in comparison.
Still, lesson learned. Pity the OP can't turn in the seller and maybe get some money back.

Getting Galaxy Nexus on T-Mobile

I've been thinking about ordering the GSM Galaxy Nexus to use on T-Mobile since it doesn't look like this phone is going to be released anytime soon. I think I read that if I do this, in order to still get updates straight from Google I have to flash something? Does this mean that I'll have to root the phone once I get it?
Basically I just want to know what I need to do once I get the phone to make it work on T-Mobile.
And I was thinking about ordering from Amazon or Negri.
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-GT-i9250-Smartphone-Touchscreen-Processor-No/dp/B005XYU45E
https://negrielectronics.com/samsung-i9250-google-galaxy-nexus-black-unlocked.html#.T2LZ02JWq0Q
Leaning towards Amazon since it's much cheaper, but would Negri be safer? I've heard good things about them. Any input would be very helpful!
Thanks!

No you dont have to flash. Only if you get the samsung firmware one. Gsm ones get direct ota updates no worries.

RogerPodacter said:
No you dont have to flash. Only if you get the samsung firmware one. Gsm ones get direct ota updates no worries.
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How would one accidentally get the Samsung firmware one? By chance?
So if I get the correct 1 all I have to do is stick my SIM card in it and I'm good to go?
Edit: And any preference over ordering from Amazon or Negri?

Theres a chance you'll get a non "yakju" device (yakju** version) that gets software updates slower (from Samsung). You can flash any i9250 (GSM) model to yakju just fine, so it doesn't matter which one you actually get from the seller. It doesnt require root, just unlocking the bootloader. You can re-lock after if you really want to. Once you get the drivers installed (which can be annoying), it takes about 5 min and 10 lines in the command prompt to complete manually. No hackery.
As far as buying it online, I recommend Negri if you value having a warranty. The Amazon model explicitly says "no warranty" on it. Negri will let you send the phone to them and they forward it to Samsung Europe for repairs, as Samsung won't take the phone directly from you. This is for manufacturer defects only, though. If you want extra accidental damage insurance you get that from a 3rd party here in the US.
The Negri model is only $595. The CAN one is cheaper because they get a deal on them and it comes with a US-capable charger in the box (less cost to them). Don't be worried though, you can flash it to yakju the minute you get it. I bought one and it works fantastically. Functionally, there is no difference in hardware from any other i9250 variant.
No matter where you buy it from you will always be able to just put your SIM in it and use it. Flashing to yakju isn't a necessary step to use the phone. Because you're on XDA I'm assuming you might care a bit more than the normal user though, and for that reason I recommend you flash to yakju. Even if you don't want to root or mess around, flashing is a good idea so you'll be first in line for OTAs.

martonikaj said:
Theres a chance you'll get a non "yakju" device (yakju** version) that gets software updates slower (from Samsung). You can flash any i9250 (GSM) model to yakju just fine, so it doesn't matter which one you actually get from the seller. It doesnt require root, just unlocking the bootloader. You can re-lock after if you really want to. Once you get the drivers installed (which can be annoying), it takes about 5 min and 10 lines in the command prompt to complete manually. No hackery.
As far as buying it online, I recommend Negri if you value having a warranty. The Amazon model explicitly says "no warranty" on it. Negri will let you send the phone to them and they forward it to Samsung Europe for repairs, as Samsung won't take the phone directly from you. This is for manufacturer defects only, though. If you want extra accidental damage insurance you get that from a 3rd party here in the US.
The Negri model is only $595. The CAN one is cheaper because they get a deal on them and it comes with a US-capable charger in the box (less cost to them). Don't be worried though, you can flash it to yakju the minute you get it. I bought one and it works fantastically. Functionally, there is no difference in hardware from any other i9250 variant.
No matter where you buy it from you will always be able to just put your SIM in it and use it. Flashing to yakju isn't a necessary step to use the phone. Because you're on XDA I'm assuming you might care a bit more than the normal user though, and for that reason I recommend you flash to yakju. Even if you don't want to root or mess around, flashing is a good idea so you'll be first in line for OTAs.
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Agreed. Although newegg has a deal for the Galaxy Nexus $529.99... 90 day warranty. Negri and Expansys offers about a year of warranty.

martonikaj said:
Theres a chance you'll get a non "yakju" device (yakju** version) that gets software updates slower (from Samsung). You can flash any i9250 (GSM) model to yakju just fine, so it doesn't matter which one you actually get from the seller. It doesnt require root, just unlocking the bootloader. You can re-lock after if you really want to. Once you get the drivers installed (which can be annoying), it takes about 5 min and 10 lines in the command prompt to complete manually. No hackery.
As far as buying it online, I recommend Negri if you value having a warranty. The Amazon model explicitly says "no warranty" on it. Negri will let you send the phone to them and they forward it to Samsung Europe for repairs, as Samsung won't take the phone directly from you. This is for manufacturer defects only, though. If you want extra accidental damage insurance you get that from a 3rd party here in the US.
The Negri model is only $595. The CAN one is cheaper because they get a deal on them and it comes with a US-capable charger in the box (less cost to them). Don't be worried though, you can flash it to yakju the minute you get it. I bought one and it works fantastically. Functionally, there is no difference in hardware from any other i9250 variant.
No matter where you buy it from you will always be able to just put your SIM in it and use it. Flashing to yakju isn't a necessary step to use the phone. Because you're on XDA I'm assuming you might care a bit more than the normal user though, and for that reason I recommend you flash to yakju. Even if you don't want to root or mess around, flashing is a good idea so you'll be first in line for OTAs.
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Thanks for helping me flash my phone to yakju. It was really easy I also listen to him and got the Canadian version from negri. Negri also has a coupon too if you google "negri coupon"

Ngo93 said:
I've been thinking about ordering the GSM Galaxy Nexus to use on T-Mobile since it doesn't look like this phone is going to be released anytime soon. I think I read that if I do this, in order to still get updates straight from Google I have to flash something? Does this mean that I'll have to root the phone once I get it?
Basically I just want to know what I need to do once I get the phone to make it work on T-Mobile.
And I was thinking about ordering from Amazon or Negri.
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-GT-i9250-Smartphone-Touchscreen-Processor-No/dp/B005XYU45E
https://negrielectronics.com/samsung-i9250-google-galaxy-nexus-black-unlocked.html#.T2LZ02JWq0Q
Leaning towards Amazon since it's much cheaper, but would Negri be safer? I've heard good things about them. Any input would be very helpful!
Thanks!
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I am on T-Mobile and ordered mine through expansys. It arrived with 4.0.1 and then prompted me about the update to 4.0.2. Also only order from expansys, the galaxy nexus has a 24 month warranty and if you have issues you just send it to expansys and they take care of the rest because this phone has to be repaired over seas for the warranty to be valid.
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I ordered mine through amazon/trd trading for 563 with 18.88 overnight shipping. Its the European version I think. Anyways after I got it I rooted and installed the kl1 radio and get better reception than my s2.
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Thanks for all the answers! Yeah, the only reason I don't want to root and stuff is because I still want to hold onto the 1 year warranty just incase.

I purchased my GNex from Expansys for T-Mobile (I love the phone BTW) and I asked them specifically which version they were selling and it will be the Google build and not the Samsung build. Additionally, I was told by expansys as this is a European phone it is subject to European laws and they provide a three year warranty. I do not have that in writing but I asked the guy the same question three different ways and he gave me the same answer every time....

Birdsfan said:
I purchased my GNex from Expansys for T-Mobile (I love the phone BTW) and I asked them specifically which version they were selling and it will be the Google build and not the Samsung build. Additionally, I was told by expansys as this is a European phone it is subject to European laws and they provide a three year warranty. I do not have that in writing but I asked the guy the same question three different ways and he gave me the same answer every time....
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I called Negri and they told me all their phones have the Samsung build, ugh
I've heard that customer service is terrible at Expansys though, how did it fair for you? I'm still trying to deciding whether to buy or not buy the phone, it's so much money... lol

Ngo93 said:
I called Negri and they told me all their phones have the Samsung build, ugh
I've heard that customer service is terrible at Expansys though, how did it fair for you? I'm still trying to deciding whether to buy or not buy the phone, it's so much money... lol
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Builds dont matter. You can change it to yakju, and if u don't want to then you really don't have a voice in complaining because it's there to change, but you just don't wanna do it.
And I don't think customer service @ Expansys is terrible... contact Corey from XDA, he is from Expansys and personally posts here.
$529 @ Newegg is the cheapest... however warranty is only 90 days compared to Negri and Expansys' warranties. We GSM users bought it way back for $700+, consider yourself lucky lol

zephiK said:
Builds dont matter. You can change it to yakju, and if u don't want to then you really don't have a voice in complaining because it's there to change, but you just don't wanna do it.
And I don't think customer service @ Expansys is terrible... contact Corey from XDA, he is from Expansys and personally posts here.
$529 @ Newegg is the cheapest... however warranty is only 90 days compared to Negri and Expansys' warranties. We GSM users bought it way back for $700+, consider yourself lucky lol
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Well I'm not complaining I'm just thinking it out loud really, sorry if I came off as whiny. I just don't want to do anything to void the warranty yet as I've read problems w/ mysteriously cracking screens and the like. How long does it take Samsung to push out the updates compared to Google?

Ngo93 said:
I called Negri and they told me all their phones have the Samsung build, ugh
I've heard that customer service is terrible at Expansys though, how did it fair for you? I'm still trying to deciding whether to buy or not buy the phone, it's so much money... lol
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As I said, it doesn't matter... any i9250 model can be flashed to yakju. Just get it where you can get the best price (or best price w/ warranty). Samsung will be a couple to several weeks behind, depending on which build you have. Just flash to yakju you'll be glad you did.
Also, it doesn't void the warranty to unlock the bootloader and load yakju. Its okay lol you can re-flash and return to stock if you want.

Ngo93 said:
I called Negri and they told me all their phones have the Samsung build, ugh
I've heard that customer service is terrible at Expansys though, how did it fair for you? I'm still trying to deciding whether to buy or not buy the phone, it's so much money... lol
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Very easy process for me, I have purchased from Negri and they were good but not great. I would buy from Expansys again in a heart beat especially if you have a clue. Ask them about the warranty on the phone and see what they say.

Omg.. I placed the order and then Google cancelled it for some reason. Now they said I have to wait 3-5 days for the funds to come back into my account and then I can try again using Amazon checkout.

Ngo93 said:
Omg.. I placed the order and then Google cancelled it for some reason. Now they said I have to wait 3-5 days for the funds to come back into my account and then I can try again using Amazon checkout.
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Did you go through Negri or Expansys?

Birdsfan said:
Did you go through Negri or Expansys?
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I went through Negri since I was buying the extended battery from them as well, I figured it'd be easier doing everything from 1 site. Ugh, this is such a bummer

Ngo93 said:
I went through Negri since I was buying the extended battery from them as well, I figured it'd be easier doing everything from 1 site. Ugh, this is such a bummer
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I had the same issue with Negri and Google Checkout. Use your Amazon account if you have one or just use your Google account with Expansys. Just make sure your CC company knows there will be a refund from Negri. As far as the extended battery why get what you don't need unless you end up needing it?? I'm 3 months without ever having a dead battery, I charge every night though. If you want to buy an accessory buy the desktop dock!!

Birdsfan said:
I had the same issue with Negri and Google Checkout. Use your Amazon account if you have one or just use your Google account with Expansys. Just make sure your CC company knows there will be a refund from Negri. As far as the extended battery why get what you don't need unless you end up needing it?? I'm 3 months without ever having a dead battery, I charge every night though. If you want to buy an accessory buy the desktop dock!!
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Yeah I'll make sure to do that next. This is so frustrating though, I gotta wait almost another week before I can order this now.
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deal to good to be true?

ok so heres my question. i currently have tmobile and have found a note (tmobile version) 2 on craigslist for sale. hes selling it at an insane price! however, im concerned about getting burned. whats to say he sells the phone to me and then tells tmobile its lost or stolen? will the phone not work for me? maybe im to cautious but even at a great deal im still spending around $500. however if it were an unlocked phone from another carrier it would be ok?
ive been hearing horror stories about this so im just looking to cover my bases. its still a lot of cash.
thoughts?

I would be EXTREMELY careful buying off CL expecially at low prices. I've been hearing and reading about people getting screwed. One guy had his phone for 3 months before it got locked down. Just have to use your best judgement.
Good luck
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awrnsmn said:
I would be EXTREMELY careful buying off CL expecially at low prices. I've been hearing and reading about people getting screwed. One guy had his phone for 3 months before it got locked down. Just have to use your best judgement.
Good luck
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ya im thinking i will not be doing ebay or craigslist. so it sounds like im stuck with amazon, tmobile, and overstock. any other sites?

also i think i have decided to go ahead and either buy the sony lt28h or the nexus 4. now to make my decision...

kdm212 said:
also i think i have decided to go ahead and either buy the sony lt28h or the nexus 4. now to make my decision...
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I owned the Nexus 4 and returned it for the N2. Screen was kind of washed out, battery life was not great. The glass back always worried me. Non replaceable battery as over time batteries go bad. Very fast, smooth, 4.2 is nice. No Facebook sync. Photosphere is neat but a huge battery killer. Great price from play store. But, thats if you can get one.
N2 is ... worth every penny.

kdm212 said:
ok so heres my question. i currently have tmobile and have found a note (tmobile version) 2 on craigslist for sale. hes selling it at an insane price! however, im concerned about getting burned. whats to say he sells the phone to me and then tells tmobile its lost or stolen? will the phone not work for me? maybe im to cautious but even at a great deal im still spending around $500. however if it were an unlocked phone from another carrier it would be ok?
ive been hearing horror stories about this so im just looking to cover my bases. its still a lot of cash.
thoughts?
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The easiest way to take care of this is to simply meet him at the T-Mobile store to verify the transaction. Tis what we did for our second note we found on CL. Working like a champ!

mdt73 said:
The easiest way to take care of this is to simply meet him at the T-Mobile store to verify the transaction. Tis what we did for our second note we found on CL. Working like a champ!
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i did ask him for the imei. he did send it to me and even told me that he would give me the receipt. however, i have been told that even though its clean now it doesnt stop him from making a call as soon as i walk out the door.

kdm212 said:
i did ask him for the imei. he did send it to me and even told me that he would give me the receipt. however, i have been told that even though its clean now it doesnt stop him from making a call as soon as i walk out the door.
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Get it in writing. Make a "bill of sale" with the IMEI and signatures, yours, the sellers, and possibly if you go to a T-Mobile store ask if one of the workers can sign it also and get a pic or video holding the "bill of sale"? I know it might seem kinda weird but, you can never be too careful, these phones are pretty new and pretty expensive still, that is a lot of money to risk...

Are you by any chance on TMo classic plan? I have 3 lines on my plan and the closest one eligible for an upgrade is still 11 months away. I sold my S3 and ready and willing to add some money to buy Note 2 full price, either from TMo or ebay. But i took a chance and call TMo for an early upgrade, and they give it to me for the same price as upgrade. Of course with my luck, the day after I ordered, Cyber monday deal cut the price significantly, and they wont adjust the price for me but still i got it cheaper than my S3 sold price :victory:

Red-Dog said:
Get it in writing. Make a "bill of sale" with the IMEI and signatures, yours, the sellers, and possibly if you go to a T-Mobile store ask if one of the workers can sign it also and get a pic or video holding the "bill of sale"? I know it might seem kinda weird but, you can never be too careful, these phones are pretty new and pretty expensive still, that is a lot of money to risk...
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That will do no good if he calls it in as stolen or had the value plan and quits paying on it. If he paid full price for the phone, that's the only somewhat safest way it would not get locked (unless called in as stolen)
I just don't want to see someone else get scammed. May be legit but you can never be 100% sure off CL unfortunately.
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awrnsmn said:
That will do no good if he calls it in as stolen or had the value plan and quits paying on it. If he paid full price for the phone, that's the only somewhat safest way it would not get locked (unless called in as stolen)
I just don't want to see someone else get scammed. May be legit but you can never be 100% sure off CL unfortunately.
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it wil make a difference in terms of getting your money back...if he does call it in as stolen you have proof of sale so its obviously NOT stolen...and if he stops making payments you can get a refund..you would have to hand over your phone but at least you get your money back
i would just make sure that the document you create states that he phone is either completely paid for or that it states that the seller will continue to make payments until it is paid off in full
someone else posted the same question and i also gave him the same advice...as an experienced phone seller/buyer of ebay and CL i would say that the extra $50-100 that you save isnt worth the headache and paranoia that comes with the savings
if you are going to the tmobile store you could probably even ask the clerk to give you the info on how the phone was purchased and if it was paid off...maybe even ask him how long the account has been active and if the guy has a good track record (the seller will be standing there so its not like you are asking for confidential info without his knowledge)
in my opinion...the only way i would buy a phone that is cheaper than the average asking price is if the seller really did convince me that it was legit (has a legit reason for selling the phone where the price that he sells it for isnt his main focus - ie. he received it as a gift and making $500 on a quick sale is enough for him he doesnt care to squeeze the extra $50 and/or if the seller had a receipt for the phone)..if i have an uneasy feeling i would just pass.always go with your gut

kdm212 said:
ok so heres my question. i currently have tmobile and have found a note (tmobile version) 2 on craigslist for sale. hes selling it at an insane price! however, im concerned about getting burned. whats to say he sells the phone to me and then tells tmobile its lost or stolen? will the phone not work for me? maybe im to cautious but even at a great deal im still spending around $500. however if it were an unlocked phone from another carrier it would be ok?
ive been hearing horror stories about this so im just looking to cover my bases. its still a lot of cash.
thoughts?
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If I were you, I would go to TMO and see what they can do for you about getting the phone directly from them. I was in the same situation as you were about a week ago....wanting the Note II so badly, but had already used my upgrade a couple of months ago for the HTC One S. I basically walked into my closest TMO store and asked the rep what they could do to get me the Note without having to pay full price.
In the end, they were able to get it for me for $200...after rebate, but I had to pay $150 migration fee (Originally $300). I then sold my HTC One S on eBay for $300. So how you look at it, I only paid $50 for the Note II!
Trust me, go into TMO and talk to them....that is one thing I like about them over the other carriers is their customer service is better, not awesome, but better than ATT & Verizon.

kdm212 said:
ok so heres my question. i currently have tmobile and have found a note (tmobile version) 2 on craigslist for sale. hes selling it at an insane price! however, im concerned about getting burned. whats to say he sells the phone to me and then tells tmobile its lost or stolen? will the phone not work for me? maybe im to cautious but even at a great deal im still spending around $500. however if it were an unlocked phone from another carrier it would be ok?
ive been hearing horror stories about this so im just looking to cover my bases. its still a lot of cash.
thoughts?
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Usually if you haveto ask this question its a bad idea.
its just the cheapskate in you trying to justify the purchase
here are your options
1) buy the craigslist note 2, worry about everything under the sun (is it stolen, does it WORK, are they gonna shut it down etc.) and take a chance of getting ripped one way or the other
2) dont be a cheapskate, save another 189$ dont have to worry about anything, ANYTHING!

i appreciate ALL of the feedback! at the end of the day the phone would have costed $450 plus 3.5 hours of driving round trip and probably $30 in gas. so for a total of $480 i just think ill save the few extra bucks and buy it from the store. i really do appreciate it.
just need to decide on a phone. n4, n2, s3, or the sony lt28h.
gotta admit $450 is a hell of a deal though lol.

kdm212 said:
i appreciate ALL of the feedback! at the end of the day the phone would have costed $450 plus 3.5 hours of driving round trip and probably $30 in gas. so for a total of $480 i just think ill save the few extra bucks and buy it from the store. i really do appreciate it.
just need to decide on a phone. n4, n2, s3, or the sony lt28h.
gotta admit $450 is a hell of a deal though lol.
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NOTE 2 for sure...you're in the note 2 forum so that will be the dominant answer.
but seriously the note 2 has been the best phone i have ever owned or used...and i am a phone fanatic...once you use it for a week you can't go back to smaller ones...whenever i see other phones now they look like toys...i remember a few weeks ago (before i bought the note 2 and had my nexus) i thought my sisters S3 was huge...now when i hold that phone in my hands it looks really small and dull
i definitely wouldnt put the s3 in this class of phones (unless its the international one)...i would only go with the n4 is your MAIN focus is on development and/or this phone is too large for your liking

Galaxy S4 from Craigslist - IMEI Blacklisted...options?

Hi All,
I searched and saw many threads about a similar problem, but my specific question is what can I do about this as far as getting rid of the phone? I learned my lesson the hard way - I dropped my HTC One and broke it a day before a business trip and I needed a phone. I am planning on switching to T-mobile in a month when my AT&T contract is up, so I decided to purchase a T-mobile variant of the Galaxy S4 on Craigslist. It was new, sealed, and cost $500 from what seemed like a somewhat reputable seller.
I got the phone and all was great. It was unlocked and worked perfectly with my AT&T SIM. I got home from the business trip, put in a T-mobile prepaid SIM card (so I could test the service at my house before switching) and got the dreaded "Not registered on network" error message when I tried to make a call. Sure enough, T-mobile said the IMEI had been blacklisted for "fraudulent activity." I believe the seller opened an account and then simply didn't pay the bill for the phone. I've bought quite a few used phones, but I learned my lesson this time. I even asked T-mobile if I could pay the remaining balance, or if they even wanted the phone back. I received a prompt "no" to each question. I asked if the phone was "stolen" and they said no as well - it was marked as fraudulent, but not lost of stolen. Whatever they want to call it, it don't work!
So my question is this (and sorry for the long-winded vent): can I sell this phone? I just want it gone. I look at it and I get angry and upset with myself for making this mistake. I know I will lose a ton of $$$, but I would rather sell it on eBay while FULLY disclosing the phone's history and let someone overseas use it or someone on AT&T use it. Am I violating any rules by doing this as long as I fully disclose everything I know? Also, if this is the wrong forum, I apologize. Thank you for any insight and to save you all the trouble - yes I screwed up and I'm an idiot. But, I'm not the thief here. I sure wish I could get a hole of the seller!
-Collin-

i had the same happen to me this weekend i bought a sealed s4 from cl i also payed 500$ it was for great for 3 weeks up until this weekend i wasn;t getting 4g data so i called tmobile and they told me that that they blocked the imei sue to the person deciding not to pay for the phone..i learned my lesson NEVER TO BUY any phones from Cl. i went to the store and paid retail price for a s4 and i have the receipt just in case tmobile comes back and try to screw me
CollinFX45 said:
Hi All,
I searched and saw many threads about a similar problem, but my specific question is what can I do about this as far as getting rid of the phone? I learned my lesson the hard way - I dropped my HTC One and broke it a day before a business trip and I needed a phone. I am planning on switching to T-mobile in a month when my AT&T contract is up, so I decided to purchase a T-mobile variant of the Galaxy S4 on Craigslist. It was new, sealed, and cost $500 from what seemed like a somewhat reputable seller.
I got the phone and all was great. It was unlocked and worked perfectly with my AT&T SIM. I got home from the business trip, put in a T-mobile prepaid SIM card (so I could test the service at my house before switching) and got the dreaded "Not registered on network" error message when I tried to make a call. Sure enough, T-mobile said the IMEI had been blacklisted for "fraudulent activity." I believe the seller opened an account and then simply didn't pay the bill for the phone. I've bought quite a few used phones, but I learned my lesson this time. I even asked T-mobile if I could pay the remaining balance, or if they even wanted the phone back. I received a prompt "no" to each question. I asked if the phone was "stolen" and they said no as well - it was marked as fraudulent, but not lost of stolen. Whatever they want to call it, it don't work!
So my question is this (and sorry for the long-winded vent): can I sell this phone? I just want it gone. I look at it and I get angry and upset with myself for making this mistake. I know I will lose a ton of $$$, but I would rather sell it on eBay while FULLY disclosing the phone's history and let someone overseas use it or someone on AT&T use it. Am I violating any rules by doing this as long as I fully disclose everything I know? Also, if this is the wrong forum, I apologize. Thank you for any insight and to save you all the trouble - yes I screwed up and I'm an idiot. But, I'm not the thief here. I sure wish I could get a hole of the seller!
-Collin-
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Hey Collin. I had a similar issue with an HTC one being blacklisted but thankfully I bought it from eBay and their buyers protection came into play and I got a full refund. Because blacklisting is a very effective way to lose a heck load of money, I now suggest not getting phones from craisgslist or actually meeting at a carrier store to check phone status before the purchase is made. I'd stick to buying on eBay or swappa..now my suggestion is selling the phone overseas where the blocked imei doesn't really work. That would be the best option for now and you'll lose money but because it is basically a relatively new phone, you should not loose too much. Hope this helps.
-piterson
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Thank you guys for the thoughts. It's terrible that this sort of thing happens and personally, I wouldn't risk jail for 500 bucks. Hell, I wouldn't risk jail for any amount of money. It just blows me away that these people do this.
I guess what I will likely do is list it on eBay internationally with a full disclosure. Thankfully, my HTC One repair is finally complete and the phone should be back in my hands any day now. But, it's the developer edition and doesn't work well on T-mobile, so I'm back to square one for a T-mobile phone!
Anyway, sorry that this happened to you guys as well. It's just not as simple as it used to be, is it. Though I guess blacklisting has been used for a while now.
-Collin-

i listed mine on ebay with full disclosure and its not looking good..so far i have 4 days left in the auction and 1 day has passed & no one bid on it yet lol your best bet to purchase a new phone is go straight through tmobile unless you want to risk swappa or ebay then a month later if they cancel or don;t pay for the phone for it to happen again ... i would n;t risk it
CollinFX45 said:
Thank you guys for the thoughts. It's terrible that this sort of thing happens and personally, I wouldn't risk jail for 500 bucks. Hell, I wouldn't risk jail for any amount of money. It just blows me away that these people do this.
I guess what I will likely do is list it on eBay internationally with a full disclosure. Thankfully, my HTC One repair is finally complete and the phone should be back in my hands any day now. But, it's the developer edition and doesn't work well on T-mobile, so I'm back to square one for a T-mobile phone!
Anyway, sorry that this happened to you guys as well. It's just not as simple as it used to be, is it. Though I guess blacklisting has been used for a while now.
-Collin-
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Romcrazguy said:
i listed mine on ebay with full disclosure and its not looking good..so far i have 4 days left in the auction and 1 day has passed & no one bid on it yet lol your best bet to purchase a new phone is go straight through tmobile unless you want to risk swappa or ebay then a month later if they cancel or don;t pay for the phone for it to happen again ... i would n;t risk it
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That's a bummer. Did you list it internationally? I know you probably can't link to eBay, but can you give me the auction number? I want to watch and cheer you on
-Collin-

There are services on ebay that will change the IMEI for $50.

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There are services on ebay that will change the IMEI for $50.
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I appreciate that information. Unfortunately from my limited research, I think this thread will get locked if we even go down that road since it is illegal. Argh.
-Collin-

Wow. that sucks so much. The worst I have experienced in craigslist is some guy tried to scam me out of an iPod touch that i found. I still remember the email. It said something along the lines of:
Can you please send this device to my son in Africa? I will pay you full price for the phone + $50 dollars of shipping!
I knew it was a fake because 1) the email they sent was a very random email. (like [email protected]) and 2) PHONE? it's not a phone. thats how i knew that he was scamming multiple people and just copying and pasting.
Oh craigslist is full of scammers and idiots.

Yeah that's what these scammers are doing, buy the phone on a payment plan and not make the payment. A lot of times unknowing buyers get the phone and it will work for a month till payment is due but not paid. I see great deals on CL but steer clear.

The best thing to do is unlocked the device and sell it Internationally via eBay. I have a GS3 in my possesion that my wife's little brother bought from CL and was later blacklisted since the person reported it stolen two hours later after he took the cash.

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There are services on ebay that will change the IMEI for $50.
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He is right it is illegal and if caught could face jail time.
Wayne Tech Nexus

i just got a s4 on ebay for 420 i call tmobile they told the imei is clean that dont worry about future non payment fraud or blacklisted the lady told me when i get the phone is going to be in my account so the owner will have to pay any remaining balance but they cannot block the phone idk know im worry

Whenever I buy something from craiglist I always ask for 2 valid ID and have them photocopy.

I'll buy it for parts. If interested inbox me. Thanks!

I had the same damn thing happen but with a Galaxy S2 a while back. What I had to do is buy a used motherboard from a cracked screen one on eBay. Spent way more on the phone than I intended but all I did was switch the motherboards and voila. Good as new.
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Just sell try and sell it on Craigslist and ebay. Specify that it is blacklisted with tmobile but it ia unlocked so you can use it with att. Here's one and it's at almost 300 with 17h left on the auction
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=200948373767
Sent from Flip's Galaxy S4

elflip88 said:
Just sell try and sell it on Craigslist and ebay. Specify that it is blacklisted with tmobile but it ia unlocked so you can use it with att. Here's one and it's at almost 300 with 17h left on the auction
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=200948373767
Sent from Flip's Galaxy S4
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I read not long ago that AT&T and T-Mobile started sharing IMEI blacklist. Not sure if the policy is in effect yet or not.

baseballfanz said:
I read not long ago that AT&T and T-Mobile started sharing IMEI blacklist. Not sure if the policy is in effect yet or not.
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Op said he used it on att network so my guess is no
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rona809 said:
i just got a s4 on ebay for 420 i call tmobile they told the imei is clean that dont worry about future non payment fraud or blacklisted the lady told me when i get the phone is going to be in my account so the owner will have to pay any remaining balance but they cannot block the phone idk know im worry
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No.
Walk away.