So as most of you have seen AT&T will soon be rolling out their 4G service, so I was wondering if our Desire Z NAM Edition's will work with 4G or only 3G?
Yes.
All major canadian carriers have HSPA+ which T-mobile and AT&T started calling 4G. Telus, Bell and Rogers all use the same frequencies as AT&T
The Bell NAM Desire Z is HSPA+ compatible up to 14.4 Mbps download speeds.
AT&T is supposed to start deploying LTE this year, and finish by 2013. But by the time they have LTE deployed to any degree that I care about, it will probably be time for me to want to upgrade my device (for other reasons) anyway.
Interestingly, ATT is only claiming speeds of 6 Mbps for their HSPA+ network. So I guess we have nothing to worry about as far as the 14.4 Mbps cap on the Desire Z being the bottleneck.
http://www.wireless.att.com/answer-center/main.jsp?t=solutionTab&ft=&ps=solutionPanels&locale=en_US&_dyncharset=UTF-8&solutionId=KB115947
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just got my g2 unlocked and edge works fine on it. I know 3g won't work because T-mobile has a proprietary frequency for their 3g....
then it sorta hit me as i was on att's website, would it be possible for me to get att's new hdpa network, or their upcoming LTE?
You do know they make a Desire Z that works with AT&T's 3g network right?
http://negrielectronics.com/htc-desire-z-850-1900-3g-unlocked.html
Also I doubt that the G2 will work on any upcoming AT&t 4g network.
... and definitely not LTE. There's no radio for that in the g2.
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Hi everyone,
I recently obtained an AT&T sim card and installed it into my unlocked and rooted tmo g2. I was under the assumption that I would be able to at least get 3g on the AT&T network with my phone, but did not realize that the g2 does not support the frequency bands for at&t 3g. I currently only get 2g/edge, data is slow and calls are sketchy.I have all the apn's setup correctly, I know I do. The phone simply does not support the frequency for 3g.
I was wondering if I can force my phone to always roam on the tmobile network somehow so that I can obtain 3g or even by some stroke of luck 4g. I have national roaming so there is no charge.
Is This Possible???
Somebody please help me figure this out or tell me why it will not work.
XDA is a genius pool, somebody out there knows...
Thank you in advance
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You can use AT&T's network with a phone that has an unlocked sim slot, but AT&T's 3G band (same band Canada Bell 3G is on) is different from T-Mobile's, as a result you won't be able to use 3G on AT&T's network.
The same is true if you bought an international Desire-Z and tried to use a T-Mobile Sim, no 3G speeds on T-Mobile, but 3G with an international GSM/HSPA carrier.
PS: The G2/DZ does not support 4G, the only time you ever seen 4G in the indicator is when the phone is on HSPA mode (kind of in between 3G and true 4G speeds).
In a nutshell, a T-Mobile G2 will ONLY be able to get 3G and faster on T-Mobile's Network.
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In regards to force roaming with T-Mobile's network, as far as I am aware the two have a limited pairing arrangement, with a AT&T Sim, you would get minimum edge speeds with T-Mobile. (ie: why would a competitor give you more than just basic service). ie: you're not a T-Mobile Subscriber, as such you'll only get Edge (if any data at all) when roaming outside of AT&T's coverage.
Will the international HTC one x work with T-Mobile 4g?
Thanks in advance!
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I was told no it will not. So, I went and got a prepaid Verizon Jetpack Hotspot because using their wifi is actually LTE...not bad with a $25 prepaid AT&T card
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Tmo in the US uses 1700 MHz for its 4g data afaik which is not compatible with the Intl. One X. You will not be able to use 4g data.
Tmobile doesn't really have 4g out yet, they do promise to roll out LTE later. If you wait for winter quarter 2012, Tmobile promised that they will refarm 1900 for HSPA , therefore the international HOX will be able to run its 3g speed on Tmobile, which is 21mbps I think.
T-Mobile HAS BEGUN the process of refarming their 1900 mHz band to HSPA+. That being said, there are still many places that only get EDGE service on the One X. It will take some time to complete the refarming process.
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I just switched away from T-Mobile due to their coverage map being a bit....optimistic. None of the major us carriers support 4g yet. What they call 4g is actually more like 3.9g. It is more correct to call it LTE than 4g. Having said that, the global hox supports most of the frequencies that tmobile uses, just not in the way that T-Mobile uses them. The best you can get with a global hox on T-Mobile is 2G. My suggestion is to use att or an att compatible prepay carrier. You can get their 3g network which usually has decent seed.
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Tmobile doesn't really have 4g out yet, they do promise to roll out LTE later. If you wait for winter quarter 2012, Tmobile promised that they will refarm 1900 for HSPA , therefore the international HOX will be able to run its 3g speed on Tmobile, which is 21mbps I think.
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42Mbps Of course that's only theoretical though, but that's what they advertise their HSPA+ network as in the largest cities.
T-Mobile states:
"T-Mobile recently announced that it has been testing unlocked iPhone speeds on T-Mobile’s 4G network. This opens the floor to many questions regarding the fact that many speculated T-Mobile would wait to debut the iPhone on its network until its 4G LTE network rolled out.
T-Mobile says it is in the planning stages of expanding its 4G network to Los Angeles and San Diego, which is where it said customers are experiencing “iPhone ‘speed sightings’ on T-Mobile’s 4G network.” This is potentially exciting news for Apple fans on T-Mobile; many speculated that the iPhone wouldn’t premier on T-Mobile until mid-2013, when the carrier plans to roll out 4G LTE."
I am not sure if I understand this:
1. What is this "iphone 'speed sightings' on T-Mobile's 4G network"? what do they mean by "speed sightings"? Are these occasional 3G/4G speeds when still mostly EDGE, is that why it is a "sighting"?
2. How is this re-farming supposed to work? Are unlocked AT&T phones (phones with no 1700MHz antennas) only able to get 3G/4G only if t-mobile 1700MHz 4G is re-farmed to the 1900MHz band?
3. Does this mean that once T-Mobile deploys 4G LTE in mid-2013, AT&T unlocked phones will also work on t-mobile 4G LTE? Are T-Mobile 4G LTE going to be on 1900MHz or 1700MHz band?
4. Is the re-farming of 1700MHz 3G/4G to 1900MHz band is a separate and unrelated thing from the t-mobile 4G LTE? Is the re-farming just a temporary solution until 4G LTE comes to t-mobile?
I am not sure how to understand this news from T-Mobile.
I currently have an unlocked (unlock code from AT&T) AT&T Note II (SGH-I317) with a t-mobile 4G plan. I have 12 days to decide to cancel my t-mobile 4G plan and go back to AT&T, or stick with t-mobile and pay the $325 cancelation fee to AT&T. But I can't decide if it makes sense to stay with t-mobile or i should go back to AT&T. For now, extremely high data speed is not that important to me. I just cannot stand EDGE. If I can get 3G (6mbps down/ 2mbps up) I will stay w t-mobile. For the future, I want to know if I will ever be able to get 4G LTE on t-mobile with my AT&T Note II, even when it does not have the 1700MHz antenna. Or will I be required to get a 1700MHz t-mobile Note II to eventually get 4G LTE, in which case I should sell my unlocked AT&T Note II and buy a t-mobile Note II or switch to the Nexus 4 phone.
Any help understanding t-mobile's announcement is greatly appreciated.
So I am looking to switch to T-Mobile from sprint and want to get the S3. I understand the T-Mobile GS3 works on HSPA+ and operates on the 1700 Band. I also see that the T-Mobile version does not have LTE. Now the ATT version operates on the 1900 Band and will only work on slower speeds until T-Mobile activates the 1900 Band here. Spoke to several reps and they state sometime this month. Will the ATT GS3 have the LTE that will work on T-Mobile when they activate it? So would it be better for me to get an ATT GS3 so that I have LTE when it becomes available? Thanks in advanced
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So I am looking to switch to T-Mobile from sprint and want to get the S3. I understand the T-Mobile GS3 works on HSPA+ and operates on the 1700 Band. I also see that the T-Mobile version does not have LTE. Now the ATT version operates on the 1900 Band and will only work on slower speeds until T-Mobile activates the 1900 Band here. Spoke to several reps and they state sometime this month. Will the ATT GS3 have the LTE that will work on T-Mobile when they activate it? So would it be better for me to get an ATT GS3 so that I have LTE when it becomes available? Thanks in advanced
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I have Tmobile and it works ok, It depends on the service coverage cause where I live I don't get 4G on any carrier lol.
That's a tough question to answer. Is it a matter of want or need LTE on your mobile device?
Arguably, at&t has better service than t mobile. But since t mobile is still at the stage of refarming their antennas/towers, Tmo could be just the same as their counterpart after its done. I have t mobile and coverage has been excellent. Data speeds are speedy but not quite as fast as at&t's LTE.
On HSPA+, i get great to decent speeds that can get all of my mobile needs online. It would be a plus to have LTE but i don't need it.
Do you get what i trying to get at?
Sorry i had to write this quickly.
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So I am looking to switch to T-Mobile from sprint and want to get the S3. I understand the T-Mobile GS3 works on HSPA+ and operates on the 1700 Band. I also see that the T-Mobile version does not have LTE. Now the ATT version operates on the 1900 Band and will only work on slower speeds until T-Mobile activates the 1900 Band here. Spoke to several reps and they state sometime this month. Will the ATT GS3 have the LTE that will work on T-Mobile when they activate it? So would it be better for me to get an ATT GS3 so that I have LTE when it becomes available? Thanks in advanced
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I say go for the Tmobile S3. T-mobile's LTE rollout won't be for a long while, and even when it does become available we don't know if it uses the same LTE band as ATT. My guess is that it won't. Tmobile's HSPA+ is plenty fast where I live for all my needs. You will only get EDGE (2G) speeds with TMobile on the ATT version of the S3 until Tmobile refarms their network. But even if they do refarm where you live by the end of the month, the many other places will still only be covered with the 1700 spectrum.
S3 on Edge is a pointless phone. Even with the 1900 mhz bands rolling out, your data will be spotty at BEST. Even in NYC Manhattan, the 1900 mhz bands are probably 20% complete. Go with the TMO version and you won't regret it.
I get up to 25mbps I average about 7-12 who cares about LTE? Go with T-Mo its cheaper and you will get faster speeds. At my home I get faster data speeds than my baby mama on ATT with her HoX soon to be OG Note
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I also have the same dilemma.
If T-Mobile will use LTE on the same frequency as ATT currently does, won't using the ATT SGS3 future proof it for LTE on T-Mobile network?
Am I missing something or do these devices have same specs (except T-Mo having 1700) once 3G moves to 1900 on T-Mo?
OP, I suggest you test T-Mo's network for coverage and speed in your area. I will be doing the same.
Get the T-Mobile version if you value fast data speed.
Don't buy a phone and hoping that it will have the correct technology to work on a network that has not even start to build yet.
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