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Hey guys and gals,
This is my first post and i need some help. Here's the story.
I rooted my phone a few weeks ago, everything went stunningly easy, and worked great. Clockworkmod recovery was installed (by unrevoked) at this time. While driving home I broke my phone's screen and had to get a replacement phone. Asurion had a phone to me within 18 hours (my word they're fast). I slapped the 16GB SD card from my first phone in and I was off and running.
So I have my new phone with my original 16GB SD card and set it up normally again. I wanted to wait a bit and get it set prior to rooting again. Tonight I rooted the phone with Unrevoked 3.21 as I did before. It went much faster than before. I now have S-Off but clockworkmod recovery is not on my hboot screen and recovery mode doesn't work at all. Just a black screen for about 15 seconds before loading into the OS.
Have I screwed up a one click root? I've tried a few things.
I used droid-life as a guide to help me root.
Phone Stats:
Droid Incredible
Asurion replacement
OS 2.2
radio 2.15.00.07.28
kernel 2.6.32.15-gb7b01d1
build 3.21.605.1 CL231334 release-keys
Although clockworkmod recovery isn't in Hboot the reflash tool still says "Recovery Image: ClockworkMod Recovery" on the bottom. I have tried renaming the clockworkmod folder on the SD card to see if it would create a new one, or boot into clockworkmod recovery after realizing the folder is not there.
I have also tried formatting my SD card and running the reflash tool again. Again no dice, no recovery mode.
I have tried unrevoked 3.21 after every change.
What have I done? what do I do? any suggestions?
Thanks for anybody and everybody's input. I appreciate it. I would like to start flashing roms but really dont want to mess with it if I dont have a recovery option.
-MOJO
Is it a complete download of the unrevoked tool? Sounds almost like the recovery package isn't there. Try redownloading unrevoked and run it again. Do you have root and Superuser app at least? If so, try downloading and running ROM Manager and tell it to flash Clockwork again. Still no dice, try telling it to flash RA recovery. And for the record, which screen do you have?
I wish I knew
PonsAsinorem said:
And for the record, which screen do you have?
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thanks for the quick reply I will try that. Yes I have root and the superuser app.
I dont know how to tell which screen I have, but I was wondering the same thing. BoyGeniusReport says its incredibly hard to tell the difference and I haven't found were it says SLED vs AMOLED
Grrrr
PonsAsinorem said:
Is it a complete download of the unrevoked tool? Sounds almost like the recovery package isn't there. Still no dice, try telling it to flash RA recovery.
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Downloaded unrevoked 3.21 straight from unrevoked twice.
Tried the reflashing clockworkmod recovery, no dice.
Whats an RA recovery?
RandomMOJO said:
Downloaded unrevoked 3.21 straight from unrevoked twice.
Tried the reflashing clockworkmod recovery, no dice.
Whats an RA recovery?
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It's an alternate recovery. Here's the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=758874
It's also the second to the last option in ROM Manager. Flash Alternate Recovery: RA_GNM Recovery v1.7.6
I actually like that one better. It was able to format my SD card correctly. I just miss the integration with ROM Manager.
Phew... It worked.
the alternate recovery worked.
now if I want to flash ROMs do I need to know anything in particular before doing so with the AMON_RA recovery tool.
I downloaded the a4d utility that I found when doing a search for AMON_RA on appbrain. It asks if I want to flash my phone to unlock my bootloader (and void my warranty, haha).
do I need to unlock my bootloader before flashing ROM's
I like the sense UI. thats all I have actually used. Is there anything better? what are suggested, STABLE, ROMs/kernels for the DInc? or should I stay "stock 2.2 rooted"?
RandomMOJO said:
the alternate recovery worked.
now if I want to flash ROMs do I need to know anything in particular before doing so with the AMON_RA recovery tool.
I downloaded the a4d utility that I found when doing a search for AMON_RA on appbrain. It asks if I want to flash my phone to unlock my bootloader (and void my warranty, haha).
do I need to unlock my bootloader before flashing ROM's
I like the sense UI. thats all I have actually used. Is there anything better? what are suggested, STABLE, ROMs/kernels for the DInc? or should I stay "stock 2.2 rooted"?
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Uncommon sense with king kernel bfs # 5 is as good or better than stock.
Btw. Hboot only shows recovery, not clockwork recovery. Did you ever try selecting recovery from hboot?
silverxbv2 said:
Uncommon sense with king kernel bfs # 5 is as good or better than stock.
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and still has all the capabilities of stock 2.2 (GPS, WIFI Tether, etc), I know that was a problem at one point. I assume/hope all has been fixed with those issues.
With flashing ROMs. do Custom ROM's have the bloatwear (CityID) removed?
RandomMOJO said:
and still has all the capabilities of stock 2.2 (GPS, WIFI Tether, etc), I know that was a problem at one point. I assume/hope all has been fixed with those issues.
With flashing ROMs. do Custom ROM's have the bloatwear (CityID) removed?
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Uncommon sense has some of it removed. Some of it you can remove yourself. It's the only rom I've donated to and had on my phone more than two days.
Just be careful if removing stuff. Some of it has other dependencies. There are guides on how to remove things safely without breaking other functionality.
Also do a backup first. I'm not sure how amon ra works, but it must be in there somewhere.
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and still has all the capabilities of stock 2.2 (GPS, WIFI Tether, etc), I know that was a problem at one point. I assume/hope all has been fixed with those issues.
With flashing ROMs. do Custom ROM's have the bloatwear (CityID) removed?
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I used to use Virtuous 3.0.1, but I've switched over to Redemption ROM 2.0.5
silverxbv2 said:
Also do a backup first. I'm not sure how amon ra works, but it must be in there somewhere.
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It is. In the main menu, just like Clockwork
So I definitely have recovery with the amon_RA 1.7.6 alternative recovery with the ROM manager. but from what I have read I can no longer use ROM manager to flash.
Now I have been searching for information/instructions on how to use AMON_RA but have come up short, at least recently written stuff. I can find a ton of information about clockworkmod which I assume is because of Unrevoked 3.21.
PonsAsinorem as you said you miss the integration of ROM manager. I really want to use ROM manager.
I read somewhere in XDA that people were having trouble using clockworkmod and ROM manager and it could be because of a corrupted cache. there were some LIMITED instructions about using ADB to fix it but I wasn't completely understanding them.
I think my problem is spawning from using my old SD card and maybe a corrupted cache. I have made a back up using Amon_RA (actually two).
Does anyone think that completely formatting my SD card (after moving my backups to my MAC) and factory restoring my phone. then reflashed using unrevoked 3.21, or reflashed clockworkmod recovery using rom manager would work to solve my problem with clockworkmod recovery?
I would have backups if it didn't work. I would just have to restore the Amon_RA backup if I screwed anything up or wanted my SD card back... Right?
Thanks for all the help so far.
MOJO
Found this and it solved the problem for me:
http://androidforums.com/incredible...ckwork-recovery-blank-screen.html#post1723460
dirtpan said:
Found this and it solved the problem for me:
http://androidforums.com/incredible...ckwork-recovery-blank-screen.html#post1723460
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Dirtpan. you're a lifesaver thanks for pointing me at this. saved clockwork for me. All this time, its because I have the new SLCD screen as opposed to the AMOLED screen.
For the record, my wife has an AMOLED screen and I an SLCD. I can see no discernible difference.
Thanks again everybody for the help.
MOJO
cans ome one tell me how to do it, i remeber trying a while back and it never worked, i mnight have made a mistake, i cant even find the threads for it, partially because i have a splitting headache and partially because it is so damn hot in my room i need to leave. please and thank you.
p.s. i did search for about 7 minutes, between the tempature and the fact that so much has the words clockwork and amon in it its just to much right now.
The easiest way is probably to download ROM Manager onto your phone. It may ask you to install ClockworkMOD again, but that's fine. Once that's done, scroll to the bottom of ROM Manager and select 'Flash Alternate Recovery' or something like that and that will install Amon_RA 1.8.0 onto your phone. Afterwards, you can remove ROM Manager since that only works with ClockworkMOD.
is there any noticable difference, and how will i know its done correctly i thought i tried this once...
mine says no alt. recovery available
Did ROM Manager ask you to flash ClockworkMOD again or no? At the very top of RM, you can try to install ClockworkMOD again and that might allow to you flash alternate recovery. Otherwise, here's the thread for Amon_RA 1.8.0.
[Recovery] [28-August-2010] RA-evo-v1.8.0
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Did ROM Manager ask you to flash ClockworkMOD again or no? At the very top of RM, you can try to install ClockworkMOD again and that might allow to you flash alternate recovery. Otherwise, here's the thread for Amon_RA 1.8.0.
[Recovery] [28-August-2010] RA-evo-v1.8.0
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im using the rom cm6.1.1 it had it on there already so no. however im going to restore to 6.1 because this rom is constantly rebooting itself and getting stuck in bootloops....****.
but yes ill let u no in a few minutes
i flahsed over to an old sense virus rom, i installed rom manager however it didnt ask to redownload clockwork, and i scrolled down to look at the flash alternative recovery, its still grey but this time it has amon ra 1.8 under it but still grey
So I got my Evo in November. I was lucky enough to get HW003, so back in Nov, I used Unrevoked (and Forever, I think?). It looks like it all went fine, 4G has been working and I'm fully root'ed. Now I'm ready to jump over to Fresh, but I'm reading these threads about problems with Clockwork. I feel dumb, but I'm a little confused now. Is it safe for me to continue using Clockwork, as installed by Unrevoked? Or do I need to jump over to Amon Ra before I start doing anything? If that's the case, is there a best way to do that? Thanks in advance.
Baseband: 2.15.00.09.01
Software: 3.29.651.5
PRI: 1.77_003
PRL: 60671
H_BOOT: .97
You'll be fine using clockwork. The only problem with clockwork is that it occasionally doesn't clear cache and dalvik perfectly. I've been rooted and using CW for a LONG time. Trust me, it's safe
Cw is safe enough (although most probably use ar), but make sure you have at least one backup done with ar. Cw doesn't back up your wimax image. Ar does, and you may need it someday.
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ClockworkMod is not safe if you were to (accidentally) upgrade your hboot. Best to just stick with Amon_RA anyways, since it works properly.
(And to be honest, if you need ROM Manager to flash ROMs, you probably shouldn't have rooted your phone in the first place.)
Thanks guys. Looks like I may as well just move forward with Amon Ra.
drmacinyasha said:
ClockworkMod is not safe if you were to (accidentally) upgrade your hboot. Best to just stick with Amon_RA anyways, since it works properly.
(And to be honest, if you need ROM Manager to flash ROMs, you probably shouldn't have rooted your phone in the first place.)
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The partitions on newer phones is the issue. You can use clockwork if you have older hardware and older camera chip. Just upgrading hboot does not change your partition sizes. I have gone from hboot 0.97 to 2.10 and back down to 0.76 with a launch day evo and partitions stayed the same.
If clockwork worked on your phone before it will also work now. If you have a newer phone with new camera chip there is a high chance that your phone has a different partition setup than the older phones and using clockwork or even regualr Amon-Ra will equally break the phone. There is only ONE version of Amon-Ra that works for these phones and the flashable zip can be found in Zikronix's root thread for hboot 2.02 and 2.10 phones.
leenypost said:
If clockwork worked on your phone before it will also work now.
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I used to agree with you, but not any more. For me, clockwork worked most of the time, but when the possibility is a bricked phone, most of the time is just not good enough. On the other hand, Amon_Ra works 100% of the time.
Frankly, Clockwork might be ok for flashing a rom, but I would never use it to flash radios or pri. As far as I am concerned it just doesn't work reliably enough to use it for anything important. So for me clockwork is pretty much useless. The only reason I keep it on my phone is that I paid five bucks for it, and it is the most convenient way to fix permissions.
For the record, I have had my 002 Evo since launch day. Rooted it using the original toast method. The first app I bought was Clockwork, which I used exclusively for about a month. After the second time a flash through clockwork went bad, I switched to Amon_Ra and have never had a bad flash since. Additionally, a nand backup through Amon_Ra backs up your RSA keys, Clockwork does not.
Ive always like Amon Ra better, only time I used Clockwork was to flash Amon Ra lol
mattfury said:
So I got my Evo in November. I was lucky enough to get HW003, so back in Nov, I used Unrevoked (and Forever, I think?). It looks like it all went fine, 4G has been working and I'm fully root'ed. Now I'm ready to jump over to Fresh, but I'm reading these threads about problems with Clockwork. I feel dumb, but I'm a little confused now. Is it safe for me to continue using Clockwork, as installed by Unrevoked? Or do I need to jump over to Amon Ra before I start doing anything? If that's the case, is there a best way to do that? Thanks in advance.
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If you want to switch to RA an easy way is to download Rom Manager from the market. There is an option in the app to flash to RA. After that, you can just uninstall Rom Manager since it only works with CW.
I need help fast...
I got my Htc Incredible replace today and as soon I got it I rooted the phone and I use a custom recovery image to root.. everything went well but when I got the Rom manager from the market and now its asking me to flash a recovery but I dont want to flash to the v3.. I wanna stay with the 2.5 version is there any way I can flash a image with rom manager instead of flashing the new version..
thanks .
EDIT: re-read post.
If you rooted with the latest unrevoked, you should be on 2.5 anyway. The latest ROM Manager only works with the 3.x recoveries. So, either don't use rom manager, (Flash stuff manually) or upgrade.
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All the CWM recoverie are here. http://mirrorbrain.cyanogenmod.com/cm/recoveries/
2.5.1.2 here, RM should be able to flash it.
http://mirrorbrain.cyanogenmod.com/cm/recoveries/recovery-clockwork-2.5.1.2-inc.zip
And there's always 2.5.0.5 PB31IMG.zip, via unrevoked forever.
http://downloads.unrevoked.com/forever/recovery/clockworkmod/PB31IMG.ZIP
If you want the older version of CWM to persist, don't update it in rommanager. Note that when flashing stuff, you do it through recovery, not rommanager.
I have the older CWM, rommanager v 3.0.7, works to create backups. Use recovery to flash and restore.
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Welp
Personally, I stay away from RomManager. Have never seen something work in RomManager that didn't also work (better) straight out of CWM Recovery.
I am still on 2.5.x.x as well; 3.0.0.5 and 3.0.0.8 seem to cause WAY too much trouble, and there is no clarification from Koush that he is resolving those bugs.
I would love to see an answer on this. I can go back to 2.5 but...
Some of the newer roms require you to use 3.xx.xx Most say to use 3.0.0.7. I would love to but when I set to this version my phone shows no recovery. Just a black screen. I can still push the buttons and get the actions to work, from memory, but this is not a solution. Is anyone else have the "black screen" issue?
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I would love to see an answer on this. I can go back to 2.5 but...
Some of the newer roms require you to use 3.xx.xx Most say to use 3.0.0.7. I would love to but when I set to this version my phone shows no recovery. Just a black screen. I can still push the buttons and get the actions to work, from memory, but this is not a solution. Is anyone else have the "black screen" issue?
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I think 3.0.0.7 had an SLCD issue. You must have an SLCD Incredible. You might try 3.0.0.8, I believe it works fine with the newer Incredibles.
Hello everyone, I am new to XDA but I have a ongoing problem with my HTC Evo 4G, I'm rooted on my phone but every single time I try to download a ROM it never seems to get passed the start screen. I've tried to unroot but it never ever works for me it still shows the room. I've tried to remove the ROM that never works either. Any ideas? I've tried to unroot and remove the ROM but nothing seems to work. I have SOS 2.0.9 by the way. I tried to factory data reset my phone and remove everything off the SD card but it still seems to be there.
When you flash a rom, are you wiping the system? What recovery are you using? You should use twrp; as cwm sucks on the evo.
teh roxxorz said:
When you flash a rom, are you wiping the system? What recovery are you using? You should use twrp; as cwm sucks on the evo.
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Or Smelkus.
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FinZ28 said:
Or Smelkus.
Sent using my EVO 4G and a magic wand
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Yes...i forgot the name; I ran that when I was still on my evo. Based on amon ra with some re-work...lets you use amend scripted packages, which twrp won't let you do.
EvoHero said:
Hello everyone, I am new to XDA but I have a ongoing problem with my HTC Evo 4G, I'm rooted on my phone but every single time I try to download a ROM it never seems to get passed the start screen. I've tried to unroot but it never ever works for me it still shows the room. I've tried to remove the ROM that never works either. Any ideas? I've tried to unroot and remove the ROM but nothing seems to work. I have SOS 2.0.9 by the way. I tried to factory data reset my phone and remove everything off the SD card but it still seems to be there.
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What method did you use to root your phone and what recovery are you using? If you don't wipe things like Dalvik cache and data when you flash a new ROM you're just setting yourself up for failure.
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I'm using clockworkmod for it. I wipe it and back it up whenever I use a new ROM because I know it will end up not working so I have to reset it. I don't know what twrp is by the way. I don't remember the method because I rooted my phone in 2010 the day I got my phone. I use ROM Manager to download all my ROMs
Stay away from ROM Manager and do everything from recovery. TWRP is Team Win Recovery Project, one of the better recoveries for the EVO. Use it or Smelkus and ditch ClockworkMod, as it is known to cause issues on the OG EVO. Do a search in the Development section for either of those recoveries, install and don't look back.
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Also yes, I always wipe dalvik cache and data every time I try to use a new ROM
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Stay away from ROM Manager and do everything from recovery. TWRP is Team Win Recovery Project, one of the better recoveries for the EVO. Use it or Smelkus and ditch ClockworkMod, as it is known to cause issues on the OG EVO. Do a search in the Development section for either of those recoveries, install and don't look back.
Sent using my EVO 4G and a magic wand
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I downloaded a ROM but when I tried to install it, it said Installation Aborted.
Click the link in my signature for my Evo guide and it'll walk you through everything you need to know
I can't use the PC36IMG.zip because the link doesn't work. But when I went to find it I downloaded it, it said checking and that's it. I went into recovery and I still have ClockwordMOD
For my HBOOT screen it show's
SUPERSONIC EVT3 SHIP S-ON
HBOOT- 2.10.0001
MICROP- 041f
Radio- 2.15.00.11.19
I know there is HBOOT 2.18. But I honestly do not know how to update my HBOOT