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[DEV] Desire HD kernel 1. 8Ghz?

I have been reading a few things about the Hd CPU and i know that it can handle this speeds, atleast just for the sake of a few benchmarks. As somebody would see in Z/G2 section there is alot of kernel work @ 1.8,
So the 1 million dollars question is:
Why isn't there such a kernel for our beloved Desire Hd?
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A device this expensive! I personally wouldn't run the risk of killing my processor
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So how come Z is handling up to almost 2Ghz? I know that the voltage would be high, but ad high as frying the cpu? Even using failsafe from setcpu? How much above 1.51 should the voltage be increased to handle it?
LeeDroid said:
A device this expensive! I personally wouldn't run the risk of killing my processor
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The voltage has to be ramped up quite a bit. Usually when processors near their limits of frequency, voltage has to be pushed much to get little more frequency.

There are such kernels, but not released to public.
I wouldnt mind testing one on CM7 though .

lollylost100 said:
There are such kernels, but not released to public.
I wouldnt mind testing one on CM7 though .
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i wouldnt mined to aslong as there is a proven stable kernel at 1.8Ghz ;-)

Where? I might give it a try, as i said just for the sake of benchmarks. It is sad to se a cheaper device such as Z/G2 to best the crap out of HD in linpack.
lollylost100 said:
There are such kernels, but not released to public.
I wouldnt mind testing one on CM7 though .
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mariosraptor said:
Where? I might give it a try, as i said just for the sake of benchmarks. It is sad to se a cheaper device such as Z/G2 to best the crap out of HD in linpack.
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Dont know why its sad to see. At similar clock speeds, both the Z/G2 and Desire HD are gonna score in basically the same range. They have the same gpu and basically the same cpu (cpu in the G2 is an underclocked version of the Desire HD/MT4G cpu).

It is not the same desire z is msm 7230 if im not mistaken and desire hd has an msm 8255. The GPU yes is the same. So the real score diff will be based of the cpu.
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Τελικά όλοι οι έλληνες είμαστε τρελοί και γουστάρουμε!
Yeah,I too pray for such a kernel!Plus,if someone uses it,they aren't obliged to clock their CPUs @ 1.8 all the time.Lower frequencies are still there you know!
@jkoljo
Seems we aren't the only ones that are interested after all!

Να ειμαστε. Και εφοσον μπορει τοτε γιατι οχι. Τσαμπα τα 600 ευρουδακια.
Sorry guys just a bit of humor among Greeks!
tolis626 said:
Τελικά όλοι οι έλληνες είμαστε τρελοί και γουστάρουμε!
Yeah,I too pray for such a kernel!Plus,if someone uses it,they aren't obliged to clock their CPUs @ 1.8 all the time.Lower frequencies are still there you know!
@jkoljo
Seems we aren't the only ones that are interested after all!
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mariosraptor said:
Να ειμαστε. Και εφοσον μπορει τοτε γιατι οχι. Τσαμπα τα 600 ευρουδακια.
Sorry guys just a bit of humor among Greeks!
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WTF did this thing just do?
Anyway,managed to read it and I've been thinking the same!Plus,isn't that feeling that it's fast awesome?Something like having a 50cc motorbike and making it 90cc!

mariosraptor said:
It is not the same desire z is msm 7230 if im not mistaken and desire hd has an msm 8255. The GPU yes is the same. So the real score diff will be based of the cpu.
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Thats why I said basically similar. The only main difference is one comes out of the box at 1ghz and the other at 800mhz. You clock the G2 to 1ghz Im pretty sure it will score in the same range as the Desire HD. I still think the msm 8255 is an overclocked version of the ms 7230 and they will score similar at the same clock speed. Desire HD might and I say might have a bit of advantage cause of the extra RAM.
Heres a link from the manufacturer page, notice the differences:
http://www.qualcomm.com/products_services/chipsets/snapdragon.html

Even if they are the same with no diff at all, that is ine more reason to say that it is sad that we do not have a very high performance kernel of our own.
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mariosraptor said:
Even if they are the same with no diff at all, that is ine more reason to say that it is sad that we do not have a very high performance kernel of our own.
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+1
It's really a shame!

Bump!
Nothing yet?
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yeah. it seems that there isn't any interest on making this beast fly.
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Bump!
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it's funny
I think there is no rational reason to make such a high speed kernel
You wanna be the man, would it be the only reason? I think a dev should do it for you and you can try it if it burns your processor
You just request and request, and ask if there is any interest.
You are adults, so go and look around how is it possible to change it, and burn your devices at 1800, 2500 or any MHz ; )
I'm just thinking what will you do with it, when you have it... because the device is smooth already, any game runs nice, with 1.72 based ROMs, there's no lag...
So I imagine, that you have the kernel, and you can make fantastic high linpack and quadrant scores, and you run around and show it to people "Look, what a high linpack score!" lmao

Exactly what I want to do. I will show every and each of my neighbours living on the same street who's their daddy.

liljom said:
it's funny
I think there is no rational reason to make such a high speed kernel
You wanna be the man, would it be the only reason? I think a dev should do it for you and you can try it if it burns your processor
You just request and request, and ask if there is any interest.
You are adults, so go and look around how is it possible to change it, and burn your devices at 1800, 2500 or any MHz ; )
I'm just thinking what will you do with it, when you have it... because the device is smooth already, any game runs nice, with 1.72 based ROMs, there's no lag...
So I imagine, that you have the kernel, and you can make fantastic high linpack and quadrant scores, and you run around and show it to people "Look, what a high linpack score!" lmao
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Dude,did you see anyone around here being ironic or rude?Cause you are both!
So,to get this inside your narrow head:Not everyone is conservative on how they use their devices.Some,like me,mariosraptor and jkoljo,like seeing what's the limit of their devices.Not because we like seeing linpack go high,but because we like the feeling that it can do so much.Having a kernel that allows us to overclock as high as 2 GHz doesn't mean we'll be running it 24/7.We'll just run it once or twice,just for fun,and get back to what we were using.Some minutes on it can't do any damage now,can they?
No one will force you to flash it on your device.
And you could as well seize insulting people personally when you don't know what they want or represent.We just "said out loud" our opinion for everyone to hear.If there is demand by more people it might as well be done.Or it might not.I am no developer,but if I was I would have done it a long time now,believe me!
I think an apology is due here.Some people that showed interest in this are much more respected than you and me combined.
With kind regards,
Apostolis
PS:I'm no adult man,I'm 16!

[Q] FPS cap/limit

Hi,I believe my HTC Desire GSM running Froyo was and still is limited to a certain FPS speed at 56 like some Samsung devices. I flashed other kernels for HTC Sense to see if that made any difference but no luck. Just want to see how high it can get as it has no HDMI anyway. I'm using application fps2d to test it.
Anyone with a 'solution' for HTC Sense in particular.

The Desire isn't a gaming phone at all so why would it matter. Anything above 30fps is more than what we can see really so it doesn't make all that much difference. Plus, not all Desire's are the same. Some Desire's may do one thing and other's won't. Just luck of the draw really.
BTW, the highest I got was an average of 60fps. It was flicking between 50-70fps. But like I said, it isn't a gaming phone.

GoogleJelly said:
The Desire isn't a gaming phone at all so why would it matter. Anything above 30fps is more than what we can see really so it doesn't make all that much difference. Plus, not all Desire's are the same. Some Desire's may do one thing and other's won't. Just luck of the draw really.
BTW, the highest I got was an average of 60fps. It was flicking between 50-70fps. But like I said, it isn't a gaming phone.
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I know, I own one lol... But I just like to tweak stuff if that is possible.
It's like having a fast car, but you want to chip-tune it to make it more fuel efficient and more powerful at the same time if you get what I mean.

Low benchmark score after root/custom rom and kernel

Hi!
First of all, I have been reading around and I did not find exactly what I want to know.
Yesterday I managed to root my desire and flash the CM7 ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957344). Today I've added a custom kernel, "vork" 720p (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=782875&highlight=vork).
My quadrant score is still low (around 1100), even though the phone behaves much better than the stock.
I have 2 questions:
1. What can I do to make it perform even better? (i have a friend with a desire hd who just flashed a sense rom, without any added stuff and scores over 2200).
2. should i install a new "radio"? My gsm signal is much stronger than before as it is.
3. Since this is my first time, what do you think of my choices with the ROM and Kernel? I chose them because they were popular and i assumed they are well tested and function well.
Thank you for your time.

Desire HD has better processor and GPU I believe hence bigger difference. Your score is good for Desire. I got around that overclocked on LeeDroid GB ROM.
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why do you even care bout the quadrant score ? :X
if you really feel excited bout high numbers having nothing to do with ur phone performance, go with data2ext roms, quadrant gives them 3000+ points, but still they perform worse than, for example, LeeDroid.
then again, new GingerBread Sense 2.1 roms have low quadrant scores, but they are really really fast.

I dont really care about quadrant, but it seems like a valid tool for measuring performance. At least it seems that everyone is judging by that. Quite frankly the phone works very well, i am just out of ideas to make it even better. And if the scores are meaningless why do people use it?

Its probably one of those my d...ck is bigger than yours things. Anyway I used data to SD and I also had high scores but overall experience was very laggy and jerky
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Quadrant scores are mesaurable only when you launch them on stock, unrooted roms. then it can give you and idea on how this phone with this software will perform.
after rooting, some hacks or scripts make quadrant scores not real

So this means my phone is fine as it is? There is nothing more I can do to enhance it?

you can overclock it, it should all be said in your ROMs topic.
like "OC up to 1200Mhz" means you should be able to set processor speed to 1200mhz with SetCpu. it all depends on kernel i think

Ok, thanks everyone for your input! If there are any more suggestions, I dont mind.

Switching from Desire HD to Desire.. Major differences?

I have a Desire HD, and although I really like it, and have a great ROM from xda on it, i may be switching to the Desire. (Just getting a better deal for it)
The thing I will miss the most is the higher mp Camera and the dual flash.
But I hope I will be getting better battery on the Desire.
Apart from the camera, newer processor on the Desire HD (Is it that much better?), and screen size (which wont bother me much because I loved my Milestone), are there any other major differences?
Will I still be able to run Android 2.3.3 smoothly and stable on it? Will I still have the option that when I plug the device into a computer, the menu pops up on the phone and lets me take internet from the computer?

if im not wrong i think even though the desirehd has a newer cpu its still 1ghz like the desire. the desire runs 2.3 just fine.
i've never heard of that feature where you can use your pc to give your phone internet through usb. I've used my phone to give my pc internet through usb from a wireless router though.

kokocabana said:
if im not wrong i think even though the desirehd has a newer cpu its still 1ghz like the desire. the desire runs 2.3 just fine.
i've never heard of that feature where you can use your pc to give your phone internet through usb. I've used my phone to give my pc internet through usb from a wireless router though.
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the feature is called
"Internet pass-through
Connect phone to internet via PC"
Also, how is the speaker on the Desire? I think the speaker on the DHD is kind of quiet for music and ringtones

the speaker is decent if you're in a quiet room but if theres noise it wont do for music. since its on the back on the phone i tend to put it down on a table and it makes it louder by reverberating off the table. ringtones are plenty loud

The desire's internal storage capacity is pretty crap, so you need data++, dat2whatever, aps2sd+ etc etc if you want just more than a few apps installed.

There is no official 2.3 release for the Desire yet. If you want the HD experience, just install a HD/Z/S ROM - I recommend InsertCoin CM7 v25. This way you are gonna get the HD feeling with android 2.3 and almost infinite storage (doubled by CM7 HBOOT with A2SD scripts).

Any more thoughts? I'm not sure if I will be pleased with the Desire

If I remember correctly, the 2nd generation Snapdragon on the Desire HD is quite a bit faster than the one on Desire even though they are clocked at the same speed. Also, be aware that the newer Adreno GPU on the DHD is like 3-4 times faster than the one on Desire so you'll notice the difference if you play lots of games.
Also somehow game-related is the dodgy multitouch hardware issue with the screen (not sure if it's still there on the HD). Basically it doesn't handle multitouch games very well. Do a search on HTC Desire multitouch for more info. Not to rant on the original but it is an "old" phone after all.
If you do decide to go on then may I suggest the RCMix S (2.3.3 Gingersense) ROM, if you're comfortable with rooting (you need to root anyway as the Desire has very small space for apps as others have mentioned). It's blazing fast and stable with a tiny dose of Sense 3.0 gradually phased in.
On the subject of battery life, well this is an HTC phone after all... I'm not sure if the DHD's battery is indeed worse but with a full battery my Desire can go on for about 4.5 hours straight with display on and browsing. By the way, I'm not using SetCPU or other clockspeed tweaks. With moderate use it's around 30-35 hours, which is pretty good in my opinion.

Might want to consider HTC Sensation, its coming out soon. It has better battery life

Yes,you should wait for the HTC Sensation

Seems a bit of a backwards step going from the hd to a desire? May as well wait for the S as others have said.
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It is a backwards step but I would also be getting some money too, which is why I wouldnt be waiting for Sensation. I dont want to be SPENDING more money

How much are you saving? How does this deal work, are you trading phones or are you getting a new contract with phone?
In the last case I would sell the desire and keep the hd.

Trading for phone and cash

I have a Desire and a friend of mine has DHD.
DHD's battery life are way worse than the Desire's. He can't even get to a to the end of the day without needing to charge it. On my Desire I get to 30% by the end of the day on moderate usage.
The DHD is a bit faster (It has a better processor, not in therms of clock speed). I'm running Insertcoin on my Desire (based on DHD rom), and it feels a bit slower on transitions and effects than the DHD.
I really love the buttons and the optical trackpad the Desire has, and I think it's much comfortable than the big size of the DHD.
If you get some money for the tradeoff I say you should do it.

I know They are both clocked at 1ghz, but the DHD has a newer chip... with a custom ROM will the classic Desire be able to run at nearly the same speed?

I honestly think you won't be dissapointed.

You won't be dissapointed, the smaller screen/form factor would be something to consider in your decision. The Desire has the USB tethering as you mentioned stock, as it does via WiFi. It will be updated soon to 2.3 and that will be faster than the Devs ROMs so after which the difference should be pretty seamless.
Another family member has the Desire HD and he is constantly charging it when I can get a day and a half without playing games or a day if so, of which we can play the same without any noticeable difference in performance.
You won't be unhappy with it, it plays all of the same games the DHD does but I would be put off if it was via a 24 month contract, if you are doing it that way.
The main aspect that will annoy you in the limited internal memory, but even the gig on the DHD is not going to allow you to install everything. Resolved by the AP2SD scripts when rooted.
On the plus side, I prefer the hardware buttons rather than the touch screen. And as for the camera, it's not really faultable, records the same def videos as the DHD too.
Hope that helped

Wond3r said:
I know They are both clocked at 1ghz, but the DHD has a newer chip... with a custom ROM will the classic Desire be able to run at nearly the same speed?
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No offence but I think the information you look for are somewhat dumb.
Desire was released on March and HD was around near end of '10
Surely you can't expect a nearly 9 month gap to have no differences at all in software.
Of course DHD is better.
It is just that Desire CAN have the similar/same features as DHD have in SOFTWARE only if you root your phone
If you are a gamer, DO NOT get Desire. (I mean it)
Based on your requested features, using a DHD/2.1+3.0 Sense ROMs will allow you to have that Internet from PC to Phone feature.
Oh and Desire can get pretty warm at times.
If I can stomach the 4.3in I'd stick with DHD but hey if you need cash, why you still posting here? Trade-in then.

Desire and DHD don't have anything really different in my eyes beside the price, disregarding the real specs of the DHD.
You should wait and get Sensation or get Desire at this point of time, anything in between is just a bit of waste of money in my opinion.

Setcpu

Hello everyone, I'm new to the site and I apologize in advance if this has been asked before but, I have an HTC Inspire 4G but have a custom rom flashed and it shows my phone model as a Desire HD. Would I actually need setcpu, or would I be fine without it?
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Maybe best to ask at the Inspire or DHD sections, however, I can't see why SetCPU would be a bad thing.
SetCPU enables you to run custom clock speeds, so you can overclock or underclock as you see fit. Also, you can set parameters, so as your battery drains, different speeds are employed.
In all honesty, it is probably not something that you need perse, but if you want to have a bit of fun, I don't see why not. Just be careful if you decide to overclock...if you push too hard and your kernel doesn't support OC, you could have real dramas.

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Just be careful if you decide to overclock...if you push too hard and your kernel doesn't support OC, you could have real dramas.
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You will really have dramas. If your kernel doesn't support overclocking, you will not be able to overclock... no matter how hard you push.
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