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Hi Everyone, this is my first time here in this section of XDA developers, but I have an interesting situation.
I recently acquired the Merge (Verizon's G2 variant that is still in limbo) and I'm thinking of rooting it. I have tried the instructions on the wiki for gfree 02, but it seems that as soon as I enter adb shell and type in su, I get permission denied. I read the wiki for hot to use gfree and also how to install adb but I have not been able to find an answer.
I'm trying to get the merge SIM unlocked and because this is the first android phone I have ever owned, I would really like to be able to use it on AT&T's network. Anyways, I would like to get some help as to why I am getting the permission denied response when I did everythng as the gfree wiki said to do. Is it possible that the merge is so internally different that gfree will not work on it even if it's a variant?
It's GSM coming from verizon?
If you're trying to use gfree to gain s-off, I would HIGHLY recommend running it with the "-s" flag (no quotations) just to be on the safe side
Even then, I still wouldn't recommend running gfree on the merge as it was made to gain radio s-off on the htc vision.
I would suggest using the rage method for now for root. See if that works.
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@ ratchetrizzo: no, it's just a world phone version for verizon users to use in different countries
@ Pancubano: So you would recommend against using gfree on the merge then? I'm trying to learn how to perform this rage method, but I have no experience in android whatsoever so even while reading the wiki, it seems there are a few things that are omitted or assumed that is common knowledge. By using the rage method, will I be able to achieve sim unlock status?
p.s thanks for replying!
The problem is, the merge is a CDMA device, so I'm pretty sure the sim unlock that gfree achieves with our HTC Vision's would not work on the merge. It involves copying partition 7 (on our phones) and making various hex edits to set the secu_flag to 0, supercid to 11111111 and simunlocking the phone, then copy's the modified partition back to the phone. All of which is taken care of by gfree.
Of course in order to process all of this, you're going to need at the very least temp root first, so, I would highly recommend doing more research into the rage method, but, do not try the gfree method yet, as I can't truely confirm if it will work with the merge with just the "-s" flag.
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"Rooting the Merge" sounds dirty...
You might actually have more luck in the HTC Evo Shift 4G subforum - that's Sprint's version of the G2 (more or less), and thus the internals are more likely to be similar to the Merge than the G2 would be.
the orange bandit said:
You might actually have more luck in the HTC Evo Shift 4G subforum - that's Sprint's version of the G2 (more or less), and thus the internals are more likely to be similar to the Merge than the G2 would be.
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Actually the merge is closer to the G2/DZ than the Shift 4G, right down to the keyboard and hinge, although I see the point since Sprint is CDMA although this phone is CDMA/GSM
well, thanks for everyone's attempt to help, but I finally realized that Verizon is evil and even if I unlock it, it'll simply be on 2G (EDGE) so there's no point of me having it.
EDIT: so I sold it to someone who is on verizon and will take care of it.
how did you get a hold of one? for some reason i dont believe you even had it from the start, haha. because it hasnt been released yet, and you must of been lucky enough to get an early production version.
I got it from a reviewer of the merge when it first came out. The mod who had it decided to sell it so i took a chance and bought it from him. After trying to unlock it, I finally gave up and because I got a leery of rooting it.
believe me or not, I had it, got to test it out, and finally had to give it up.
check htcmerge.com if you don't believe me. My username is the same as it is here.
EDIT: btw, why would I post this if I don't have it? It seems idiotic for me to post a thread asking for help on a phone that does not technically exist. No, I do not care for the attention. I was tempted to root it but as I said, I simply chickened out.
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I got it from a reviewer of the merge when it first came out. The mod who had it decided to sell it so i took a chance and bought it from him. After trying to unlock it, I finally gave up and because I got a leery of rooting it.
believe me or not, I had it, got to test it out, and finally had to give it up.
check htcmerge.com if you don't believe me. My username is the same as it is here.
EDIT: btw, why would I post this if I don't have it? It seems idiotic for me to post a thread asking for help on a phone that does not technically exist. No, I do not care for the attention. I was tempted to root it but as I said, I simply chickened out.
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Okay okay, its just a lot of speculation about this phone has been floating about and I didn't believe you. How did it run?
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It ran as well as the G2. What I did like alot was that unlike the evo shift 4g, the slider mechanism is spring loaded so it snaps upwards. the battery backing is odd since you have to pry the bottom part then unhook 2 minihooks on the side.
The heft of it is probably heavier than the G2, but it feels good in the hand and doesn't feel like it will slip at all.
Most of all the design is amazing!!
I definitely like the feel of the physical build. It feels tough, sturdy, and simply a phone that a man should have.
I think I might have only 1 gripe and that it's still stuck with bing since the one I bought was the Verizon version. (this was before the rumor that it was pulled back to be fitted with 4g).
In the end, I had to give it up, because I am on AT&T and verizon will never let their phones work on any carrier but theirs.
anyone been able to root a merge? I just got a merge. Didnt know about the phone beforehand and am using it on gsm(it is a worldphone). Once i got home and googled around and checked these forums... its still not released apparently :s so anyone have any idea on how i can root it?
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Hey all, I was thinking of getting a g2 after my contract is ready for it, and ive got a few questions. I'm not really a noob to all this rooting and cyanogen mod, so i might understand some of the technical jargon. i've rooted my g1 with cyanogen 5.0.8
If you use visionary to temp-root your phone daily, is there any chance for bricking it? Are there are any known problems with using visionary?
what are the main benefits with getting permaroot as opposed to just temp rooting it everytime? im not that interested in roms like cyanogen, gingervillan,etc
can you use setcpu with the stock tmobile g2 rom?
is the hinge really that bad?
does tmobile really monitor tethering? some say that the original g1 plan includes tethering but that just sounds absurd.
what exactly does busybox do? i have asked this several times but havent gotten a clear answer; i know that it has to do with linux, but thats about it :/
theres a section on the wiki about g2 radios; i dont understand what is the problem with the stock radio and why someone would want to flash another one besdies for the reason of getting a better signal, but this leads me to the question of 'doesnt tmobile update the radio? why would we need to manually update radio'?
what are the main differences between using visionary temp to permaroot and the adb method? if i were to use the visionary one, at what point could i enable s- off and hboot?
that being said, is there any news about a new release of visionary?
can't people just ask tmobile for a sim unlock code after 1 year? why do we have to root it and do it?
Looking at the wiki, i dont understand what md5 is when the wiki provides downloads and what it means
what is hboot used for and whats the difference between that and a bootloader (whats a bootloader btw)
can both temp rooting and both versions of permarooting work on 1.19 and 1.12?
thanks!
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Hey all, I was thinking of getting a g2 after my contract is ready for it, and ive got a few questions. I'm not really a noob to all this rooting and cyanogen mod, so i might understand some of the technical jargon. i've rooted my g1 with cyanogen 5.0.8
If you use visionary to temp-root your phone daily, is there any chance for bricking it? Are there are any known problems with using visionary?
what are the main benefits with getting permaroot as opposed to just temp rooting it everytime? im not that interested in roms like cyanogen, gingervillan,etc
can you use setcpu with the stock tmobile g2 rom?
is the hinge really that bad?
does tmobile really monitor tethering? some say that the original g1 plan includes tethering but that just sounds absurd.
what exactly does busybox do? i have asked this several times but havent gotten a clear answer; i know that it has to do with linux, but thats about it :/
theres a section on the wiki about g2 radios; i dont understand what is the problem with the stock radio and why someone would want to flash another one besdies for the reason of getting a better signal, but this leads me to the question of 'doesnt tmobile update the radio? why would we need to manually update radio'?
what are the main differences between using visionary temp to permaroot and the adb method? if i were to use the visionary one, at what point could i enable s- off and hboot?
that being said, is there any news about a new release of visionary?
can't people just ask tmobile for a sim unlock code after 1 year? why do we have to root it and do it?
Looking at the wiki, i dont understand what md5 is when the wiki provides downloads and what it means
what is hboot used for and whats the difference between that and a bootloader (whats a bootloader btw)
can both temp rooting and both versions of permarooting work on 1.19 and 1.12?
thanks!
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This late in the game jsut wait for the next wave of phones some will has dual core
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Might even see quad core by the end of the year.
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sorta didnt answer my question, dont mean to sound ungrateful;
i want the g2 b/c of the keyboard and other asthetics; dual core isnt that big of a factor for me.
As others have said there will be new phones coming out soon, faster processors, more cores, more megapixels, etc.
Another thing to consider is that I would expect new phones from T-Mobile to have radios capable of operating on AT&T's 3G network, making them more future proof.
OTOH If you are a keyboard guy I would expect these to be less and less common, as a former G1 user myself I can tell you the G2 keyboard is quite inferior to the G1 and thanks to better soft keyboards like Swype I rarely use the hardware keyboard anymore.
Also I can certainly sympathize with wanting to upgrade from the G1, the G2 is unbelievably more snappy, I don't think could go back to the G1 again.
One other option is to look at picking up a used device off Swappa (something like a MyTouch 3G Slide) to hold you over until the new hotness comes out later and renew your contact then.
BusyBox is a set of Linux tools that is pretty much essential for a rooted Android phone.
I have never heard of using Visionary only for temp rooting causing any problems, it only gets dicey if you try to use it for permanent root.
As for advantages of permanent root over temp root, I guess in your case it's mainly a matter of convenience, though I found some rooted apps don't behave properly with Visionary temp root.
I haven't heard anything about a newer version of Visionary and I don't think I'd expect one.
The gfree method isn't too difficult once you have ADB working, I'd just do that.
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I'm no expert but I'll try to answer some things. As for temp rooting, Visionary appears to be relatively safe, but many people warn of using it to perm root as there's a good chance of bricking the phone. It just seems to be less of a hassle to perm root and be done with it. The gfree method seems to be the one that is least risky. I have yet to root my G2 but will probably follow a method that uses Visionary for temp root and gfree for the perm part.
As to the radios, there is often no need to flash a new one and its generally advised NOT to unless you have a very good reason and know exactly what you're doing. The hinge can be bad on some G2s, not so bad on others. Mine is on the loose side but its not really a big deal to me. I can post the link to the "Easy Root" thread if you like. There are a lot of posts from people who used it and have yet to see a reported failure. I'm trying to steel myself up to go through with it. Just wanna have everything in line.
A lot of people it seems are saying wait and don't bother with the G2. Not so sure. It's an awesome phone if you like a physical keyboard. It's plenty fast and capable, even more so when rooted. Playing the technology waiting game is pointless, IMO. There is ALWAYS something bigger and better right around the corner. Everyone is touting the current wave of dual core phones, and soon those will be kicked aside by the tech elites in favor of quad core phones, then THOSE will be swatted aside when something else comes along. Android phone technology is moving faster than any tech I've seen so I think it's better to find a phone you like and chill. So what if some dude you know has a dual core phone? That fact doesn't make a phone like the G2 suddenly slow and incapable. Sure, relatively speaking it's less powerful but that's technology for you. I say if you find a phone you really like, jump on it.
Hi guys, I have a massive itch, I am badly in need of memory and I am sick of a2sd, so the obvious route is alpharev. But i am bricking it Just expecting a kid right now and I can just see me gal saying "go right ahead, your infernal meddling has ruined a perfectly good phone, but no matter take £300 n git a newun!" Mmmmm...??
Anyway, just wanted to hear from some people who have bricked using alpharev (to see how many have) and if there is any way back after said bricking. I've heard you can't.
That's it, thanx in advance!
It's basically impossible to brick your device if you follow the instructions, which are very simple
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It's basically impossible to brick your device if you follow the instructions, which are very simple
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This.
Also you should change the thread name which is kinda confusing...
A description of your problem doesn't exist so nobody will be able to help you.
I never heard or read from someone who bricked his phone using alpharev. And if your phone is bricked it would not react anymore (as if it would be dead.
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I'm not asking for help. Just interested in other peoples experience. I'm temped, but cautious as like I said, it's a mistake I cannot afford to rectifiy at the moment. So really all I wouldlike to know is if it had happened to others how they solved it or not.
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Hboot is the ultimate base for your phone. By using alpharev/revolutionary this gets 'updated'. If there something goes wrong, your phone is completely bricked. And there is absolutely no so solution for this. Your desire is then nothing more than an expensive paperweight.
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However, in order for it to go wrong, the flash itself must go wrong. So a problem anywhere else along the process won't cause these kinds of problems. And because the flash of the bootloader is done by the old bootloader, the only way this can go wrong is, if you pull the battery half way through.
That will cause a serious brick though(you will never even see your screen turn on again) and that you won't recover from.
Thanx for the replys. I fully expected that sort of response about fixing the brick. Oh well. But have you guys heard of this ever happening, apart from the unlikely event of interrupted flash due to battery on laptop or phone being dead. Any stories about "alpharev ate my desire, killed my hamster & broke my toe!"
Just wondering
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Nope don't think anyone has ever bricked a device doing it my friend
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Please do read my post again...
The way this is done(and the way the bootsystem on those phones work), there is no way other than a bad bootloader flash that will actually brick your phone. And a bad bootloader flash only occurs, as i already told you, if you interrupt it by pulling the battery mid-way(pulling the plug or the computer-battery shouldn't even do it as the flash itself is done entirely by the phone). So no there is NO ONE who used alpharev as intended, who have ended up with a bricked phone.
You might see a few "brick" stories though, which is essentially just bootloops happening to people unaware how their phone work and how to fix such simple problems.
Thanx people, put my mind at ease about doing this.
Sorry, but I'm gonna ask a thick question. You mentioned bootloop and the simple fix. Er... I just take out the battery. Is that the simple fix?
PS would you use the live Linux CD or live USB. My gut tells me to use USB. But I've had a few curries recently and I don't know if I trust it all that much.
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I used the live CD and it worked without a hitch.
And bootlooping can't be fixed by removing the battery, because next time you turn it on, you'll bootloop again.
I've had one bootloop with my phone and it was fixed by just reflashing my current ROM, so I'm not too experienced with these things.
Bootloop is not a brick in any means, in fact it's 1 of the easiest things to fix.
Wipe/Factory Reset and reflash.
Thats why i want to kill people which creating threads like "HELP BRICKED MY PHONE !!!1111oneneone" and then inside i see "i'm stuck on htc logo!"
Yeah, a real brick would mean your phone is completely dead and nothing more than an expensive paperweight.
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Dont use alpharev..
Alpharev have joined forces to come up with some epic software
Go here
http://revolutionary.io/
I am also a n00b when it comes to Android. I have decided after using almost 1 year my desire to root and s-off my phone. I always look for the detailed and visual tutorials and if you follow everything step by step it is hardly impossible to brick anything. (I have also flashed my navi, PSP and Wii before) I have used this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084and followed the videos and steps. The only thing I have to do now is to apply a custom rom on it.
You'll have no worries if you follow these steps.
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Alpharev have joined forces to come up with some epic software
Go here
revolutionary.io
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thats absolutly right! this new tool did a great job for me recently (wildfire)
but the "old" alpharev.iso is doing a good job, too!
i had no probs one year ago - this livedisc is almost foolproof (if you dont touch batteries or powercables) - just follow the instructions
"Coming from the TP2 (booting android-and have flashed many of roms and builds) and am getting the SGS2 shortly....the only big question I have is there a difference between CDMA and GSM on these devices???? there is a ton of stuff on the "Galaxy S2" on at&t but very little on the Sprint side, so is there a diff between CDMA and GSM on the SGS2(or Epic touch)???
I'm on Sprint, need to flash on day one, and making sure I have the most up to date info on flashing.
Can someone confirm that this is really all that's necessary for root? There is so much information, alot of which is older and so much information, I don't understand why there is not a stickie with exactly this info for quick easy root of stock... My phone is flashed to metro and until I pull the info from the phone for backup purposes, I need to be able to root without losing metro config.
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I also came from a Touch Pro 2. Man what an improvement.
Unfortunately, CDMA and GSM ROMs and other developments are mostly not cross-compatible, at least to the end-user.
For quick and easy root only, I highly recommend one of the stock with root ROMs. Custom kernels seem to be highly correlated with the LOS bug people are complaining about, though some disagree with me.
I think I might be missing your point. I def. Know all about the differences between cdma and GSM. I started flashing Roms with the G1 and did so with 3 dozen other android phones since. I also flashed my Epic 4g to boost by myself( pain in the ass it was) but now I have this phone a n's it's on metro and until flashing to boost becomes possible I need to be able to root with out all of the metro configuration in the phone getting erased. So can I just Odin cwm and flash superuser? I CAN'T EVEN REMOVE THE GOOGLE ACCOUNT FROM THE PHONE UNTIL I KNOW I CAN DO IT WITHOUT LOSING METRO BY FACTORY RESET WHICH IS THE ONLY WAY
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I have never rooted a phone before(well technically I rooted an HTC Inspire, which I was asked to do, but I did nothing on it involving the Root). What are some reasons I should root, and can anything go wrong during the root process? Just putting this out there, I will not be flashing any ROMs, as I know there is a chance that the device can be bricked While flashing if something goes wrong, and I do not have a spare phone to go back to if something does go wrong.
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If your not going to use customs ROMs having root access will allow you to delete any app you desire including all the preloaded sprint ones. You will also be able to download and use any apps that require root for enhanced functionality. Beyond that, there's not a whole lot of difference you'll see.
In the early days, people would do root only to adjust memory values on phones like the g1 and hero. There were a lot of settings you could tweak on a stock phone to make it better with the addition of root. Now with today's technology and phones like the E4GT, alot of those tweaks are unnecessary. The ones that are helpful are lower level and best done by a ROM dev or someone who knows what they are changing. Custom ROMs will have these included usually.
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Removing bloatware that wastes ram and flash storage space, certain apps are smoother (tasker, some launchers, and custom lockscreens for example), ability to block ads, better backup capabilities, ability to underclock the cpu for those times you need to squeeze extra battery life out, and so on.
If none of this sounds important, then don't root. It can be a little bit of a puzzle getting back to stock sometimes, but it is extremely extremely hard to do something to your phone that is not reversible at this point. Note this statement is not true for all phones, especially newly released phones. But it is true for the epic touch.
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Yeah.. I second what the guy above said..lol.
Wasup King..
I third the guy above the guy above me and second the guy above him... My thoughts are if you have to make a thread asking others should I root when the basic community offers all the info on the profit or lost of rooting then I say leave your phone alone.
Do yourself a favor and get an extended battery and download foxfi and you will be just fine. Most of us... ok all of us in here are flash-a-holics and can't help ourselves that's why we do it... Do some reading in here take a look at rom pics and see if you really really really like something...
Good luck
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I third the guy above the guy above me and second the guy above him... My thoughts are if you have to make a thread asking others should I root when the basic community offers all the info on the profit or lost of rooting then I say leave your phone alone.
Do yourself a favor and get an extended battery and download foxfi and you will be just fine. Most of us... ok all of us in here are flash-a-holics and can't help ourselves that's why we do it... Do some reading in here take a look at rom pics and see if you really really really like something...
Good luck
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The truth can sometimes be cruel..lol. +1 to Playa..
The best thing about rooting for me is adblocking, I cant believe how many apps and things are bundled with intrusive ads.
Indrid Cole said:
The truth can sometimes be cruel..lol. +1 to Playa..
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Just trying to keep it real up in herrrrre! Ya Ya!
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The best thing about rooting for me is adblocking, I cant believe how many apps and things are bundled with intrusive ads.
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Just another app that root brings to the table:
Roam control lets you force into roam when you are stuck with one bar on Sprint.
Godsend for me!
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playya said:
I third the guy above the guy above me and second the guy above him... My thoughts are if you have to make a thread asking others should I root when the basic community offers all the info on the profit or lost of rooting then I say leave your phone alone.
Do yourself a favor and get an extended battery and download foxfi and you will be just fine. Most of us... ok all of us in here are flash-a-holics and can't help ourselves that's why we do it... Do some reading in here take a look at rom pics and see if you really really really like something...
Good luck
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I have seen several ROMs I love the look of, including AOKP, CM9, and Caulkin's ROMs. My only issue with ROMs is the fact that things can go wrong with flashing, and they can brick the device. And from what ive heard, there is an increased chance of bricking when flashing an ICS ROM while on GB. I have no backup device to go to if something like that does happen, so thats why Im staying away from flashing for now.
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I have seen several ROMs I love the look of, including AOKP, CM9, and Caulkin's ROMs. My only issue with ROMs is the fact that things can go wrong with flashing, and they can brick the device. And from what ive heard, there is an increased chance of bricking when flashing an ICS ROM while on GB. I have no backup device to go to if something like that does happen, so thats why Im staying away from flashing for now.
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The brick usually come from flashing to gb from ics using ics repacked kernels. There is always some risk/chance of brick from a bad flash, but El26 with cwm is fairly safe and the last kernel to have offical cwm. That is the only kernel i will use to flash anythin. I flash new roms every week. I have flashed to and from ics with no issues.
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EggosEvo said:
I have seen several ROMs I love the look of, including AOKP, CM9, and Caulkin's ROMs. My only issue with ROMs is the fact that things can go wrong with flashing, and they can brick the device. And from what ive heard, there is an increased chance of bricking when flashing an ICS ROM while on GB. I have no backup device to go to if something like that does happen, so thats why Im staying away from flashing for now.
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My friend you have been misinformed.... There is a risk in everything we do so like I said if worried don't do it. If you take some more time and read you will see that the tar files are pretty brick proof and problems have occurred when flashing roms on ICS and using an ICS recovery. Most developers have stopped using CWM in ICS roms.
Clearly you need to do a lil more reading if you want to root but like suggested just relax and wait for the OTA and you will be OK.... One more thing all instructions say to flashEL26 kernel which is GB to flash anything ICS..... so flashing ICS rom while on GB is wrong
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I have never rooted a phone before(well technically I rooted an HTC Inspire, which I was asked to do, but I did nothing on it involving the Root). What are some reasons I should root, and can anything go wrong during the root process? Just putting this out there, I will not be flashing any ROMs, as I know there is a chance that the device can be bricked While flashing if something goes wrong, and I do not have a spare phone to go back to if something does go wrong.
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1. Titanium Backup: remove those pesky system apps that Sprint really thinks you need.
2. File explorers: Being able to modify system folders to change things like the boot animation, etc.
3. Ad blocking: The ability to block ads (moral issues notwithstanding... but some apps have no paid version to get rid of the ads.)
4. Once you've rooted, it's just the beginning. You may change your mind about flashing and rooting your phone is the first step in learning more about your phone and the AndroidOS in general.
I have not seem anyone mention that it's also about the about the damn principal of the matter... why shouldn't you have root access for a device you bought? Also if you ODIN back to EL26 to flash, carefully read all instructions posted with the rom, and wait a day or two after the release and check the comments to make sure there hasn't been some sort of inexplicable rash of bricks thanks to the rom you won't have any problems to speak of... other than not being able to fathom how much better something like AOKP is than stock touchwiz gingerbread
Thanks to everyone. I've decided that I will root when the official ICS launches for my phone.
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Personally, I root to follow fledging developers open their ROMs. It is exhilarating to see the new stuff that people come up with and the creativity that ensues because of it.
Also enhancing my phone experience with free hotspot access and customization doesn't help. However if none of these interesting you I wouldn't recommend it.
Reason to root
I root because it can be done. It's that simple. To me, it feels like regardless of the magnitude of what you can or cannot do while rooted, or how easy or difficult it may be to root your phone, a skilled user should have access to everthing your phone is capable of.
Plus, I feel like I'm "sticking it to the man", which is an added bonus!
My main reason for rooting was to remove the bundled software that comes with the phone. But I love that fact that I don't have any ads either! If u decide to root, download AdFree from the market & u'll realize just how many "free" apps use adware